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I am a California Republican and I disagree!

Posted By: Kendra on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: Do you not realize that republicans come in all kinds of flavors? - Arnold is California flavor, Powell a moderate cen

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    The Anti-Republican Republican Who is Really a Republican
    The whole anti-Republican Republican ruse might have succeeded, were it not for the fact that McCain's rhetoric was at odds not merely with his own voting record - 90 percent with Bush - and his own Bush-on-steroids agenda.

        Even as he was pledging to "change the way government does almost everything," the senator from Arizona announced his commitment to much, much more of the same.


        He pledged to maintain endless occupations of distant lands that empty the U.S. Treasury of precious resources that might pay for infrastructue renewal, housing and job creations initiatives for hurting Americans.


        He outlined trade and tax policies that would extend, rather than alter a failed economic status quo.


        He reintroduced flawed proposals for health care, education and entitlement reforms that Americans have wisely rejected.


        And he threatened to achieve "energy independence" by declaring:


        "We will drill..."


        "We'll drill..."


        "More drilling..."


        McCain's rhetoric was that of a liberated man declaring his independence from his party's failed president and corrupt Congresses.


        But his platform was that of Republican candidate who, for all of his talk of reform, offers the crudest continuity to a country that is crying out for change.


    http://www.truthout.org/article/the-anti-republican-republican-who-is-really-a-republican


    As has half (or more) of California.
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    I only heard about California so far.

    I would love to file early but my tax guy seems to put us on the end of the list. April 15, we get ours done with no chance to look it over before its sent because he does electronic filling.


    No worries here, though. We always owe. No matter how hard or how much we pay in during the year, we still owe at the end. Haven't gotten a refund for 10 years.


    Oh, wait!!!! I LIED!!!! We just got a check for $6.84 cause we overpaid what we owed. Wow! I'm gonna run right out and buy a six pack of beer.


     Hubby wants to frame it and not cash it. Told him he better cash it. Might be the last one we ever recieve. I can always make a photocopy of it.


    Say no veterinary tax in California
    Please Call & keep Schwarzenegger from gouging animal families to balance the budget.

    Instructions for a 10-second automated phone call are at the end of the link below. You don't have to talk to anyone, just vote. Thanks.

    http://www.barconline.com/info/news.php

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    And I still disagree. We shall agree to disagree. But....
    welome to the board! A new voice is welcome, whichever side the voice decides to fall. :)
    Go Gov. Palin - looks like California is on the right track

    Good article.


    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/MNPP130KA7.DTL&feed=rss.news


     


    Depends on what part of California - sm
    it's like 2 states sometimes. The central portion of the state: Central Valley in the north, Orange County in the south, chock full of narrow-minded midwest transplants, many of whom are evangelical christians. The coast and mountains have more progressive and free-thinking people. (Also the more highly-educated, as a rule). You couldnt pay me to live anywhere but on the Calif. coast.
    Arizona is like a suburb of California these
    days.  I know what you mean about those shirts too!  Even in winter, the Californians are wearing their flipflops.  People from other states are amazed to find out it actually snows in Arizona.  Frosty can live a long time out here in the wintertime!
    Did you miss where the people of California
    voted against gay marriage? And yet, the courts usurped the people's wishes.
    I am originally from California and personally know...
    many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage.
    I am originally from California and personally know...
    many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County. People forget that there is more to California than the southern parts.
    I am originally from California and personally know...
    many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County.
    The picture was taken in California at an ANSWER convention. SM

    You may remember the incident when the war first started and a soldier threw a grenade into a tent killing several other soldiers, including, I believe an officer.  This lovely show of support for the soldiers was on display at that convention. 


    Another interesting tidbit from this election...California...
    voted to ban gay marriage.  California!  Well, bet that was a bit of a shock to most folks out there.  What happens now to all those gays Gavin Newsom married?  Wonder if this one will make its way to the Supreme Court so another vote of the people will be overridden by a legislating from the bench group?  I know one thing...they won't be sending it to THIS court.  They will wait for the one Obama hopes to put in.  How very interesting in California...in with Obama, out with gay marriage.  Hmmm.
    And thank goodness California's failed; dont want
    .
    All the handouts we give them in California has helped our
    No tax-refunds this year for those of us who work hard, pay taxes, and actually live here legally. This year all we get is *IOU's*.
    Makes me want to staple an "IOU" to my California

    I grew up in California and it is a real problem...
    They end up closing down emergency rooms because they can't turn away illegals who need medical help and most don't pay. Don't know anything about PA, but it seems to be pretty bad here in Nebraska where I have been lioving since December.
    I live in California, I know all about illegal aliens.
    I have a much bigger problem with our government murdering people overseas with unjust wars.

    By the way, exactly what jobs are they taking away from American citizens...picking fruits and vegetables in hot fields, scrubbing toilets in big office buildings, washing dishes at fancy restaurants? Illegal aliens do the dirty jobs that American citizens are too arrogant to do.
    I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm
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    I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm.
    nm
    Nancy Pelosi flies back home to California on our dime...
    what's your point?
    to clarify - NO to fed laws superseding laws of State of California against voters
    nm
    Disagree..sm
    It takes a heartless person to say that the 9-11 widows are doing this for money. WHAT MONEY??? The insurance policy? Stop kidding yourself. Losing a love one and gaining an insurance policy is not everyones object of affection. This is the same effect of a mother losing her child to a drowning and then pushing for swiming safety, or victim of a sex predator pushing for tougher sex laws.

    As far as Hillary, I think she is just as outraged as anyone else should be at Ann's comments, and the fact that Ann gets media coverage to tout this stuff is just as mind numbing.

    All you said about Ann I agree, plus add hatred, evil, and prejudice and you have her pegged.


    disagree here also

    Colter is a hatemonger, thats all.  I heard every hour of AL Franken's program and he never said anything outrageous like she/it.  Al Franken was quite witty and entertaining and merely give his listeners the facts that were suppressed elsewhere.  He was on the story about Asian factory workers forced to have abortions by their American bosses way before other outlets were discussing it. Really!! Stop trying to pull the wool ....


     


     


    I would have to disagree with you.

    No surprise there right?


    I would like to note that all social reform to take place in the United States has been at the heels of a liberal movement.  From our breaking off with Britain in the mid 1700s, to civil war in the mid 1800s, and the liberal movement of the mid 1960s.  Liberalism as a belief has moved from Republican to Democrat and back again more than once.  Taking your stance on pro-life and moving it to the time of mid 1800s would put you for all intents and purposes under the Democratic wing.


    As the saying goes, complacency breeds contempt, and I believe that we are now in the beginnings of another liberal movement.  A little quicker than our 100 year mark, but with the speed that the world is changing, so must we. 


    We as a people and government have to embrace change, that is the true nature of liberalism. 


    Realistically, your views/postings justify the label.  You may not wish it, but by just expressing them promotes it.  The fact that you have never mentioned the remote possibility of voting Democrat, which at this point in our history leans toward the liberal, and only looking at the Republican party is labeling.  If you did not want to be labeled or wish not to be, you wouldn't be so quick to make your conservative opinions heard.


    As I frequently tell my husband, if you get too caught up in the details, you will lose the bigger picture, which usually leads me to telling him that he gets in his own way more often than not.


    I disagree
    First these are pics of him NOT in his uniform. True, there are some pics of him in his uniform in some of the ads, but others he is in civilian clothes. It gives me the same feeling as when I went to the health food store and spent $50 for a large can of protein powder and got got home and the can was half empty. I call it "deception". I also think by reminding us of his time in the service he is reminding us that he was a POW and he's got a grudge against people in other countries and he's going to use his position for revenge. That's what I see when I'm reminded of his uniform.

    Second - his mind. No it's not a cheap shot, its the truth. Everytime he speaks he misstates himself. When talking about the countries at work he gets the different countries mixed up and has got to constantly be correct by Lieberman or others standing around him. When asked about his voting record on important issues he can't remember how he voted and he even stated so. One time he said "I can't remember how I voted on that issue". It was an important issue and I looked at my DH and said what does he mean he can't remember, how would you forget something like that. So I think the state of his mind is an important factor in whether I will vote for him.

    As for Obama...I was not talking about Obama in my post. I was talking about McCain, but since you brougnt it up, sure there are things I may not like about him but his speaking ability and remembering important issues are not one of them. Saying he can't make speeches without a teleprompter or planned statement is just not true. He has spoken at several events without a teleprompter or prepared speeches and he can think on his feet just fine. I didn't hear him stumble over questions given by audience members or media. I'm sure you probably heard that from some conservative programs like Fox or Rush Limbaugh.
    i must disagree
    I have read many of his columns.  He is a right wing extremist.
    Disagree....
    ...and really, just have to laugh out loud.

    Sarah Palin has more experience than Barack Obama. Just wait and watch.

    Every time, every person, be in on Obama's own team, Obama himself, Biden, or you for that matter....say that she has no experience....

    Well guess what? She has more leadership experience than Obama.

    She has been in charge and running a government.

    She has been the governor of Alaska since 2006.

    She was the mayor of a city, Wasilla, Alaska.

    So I ask you. How can you, or anyone out there, sit there and say she has no experience to be VP....when you have a candidate running for President who has even less experience for her.

    Explain that one to me.

    And while you're doing that, think about how bad Obama will look every single time anyone, anywhere, brings up her lack of experience....as that will only highlight and reinforce his own, sadly lacking leadership background and experience.


    Disagree. sm

    I feel the reason New Orleans went under was because the National Guard, tanks, etc. were all in Iraq.


    Doesn't it bother you that Palin actually said, her son was going to Iraq to fight the people that attacked us?  Clueless.


    I agree that McCain is a war hero, so is my dad, but he certainly is not qualified to be President.


    I have to disagree with you on that.
    Nm
    and I disagree with you so

    maybe we both will be kicked off too for disagreeing.


    Sam does research before posting an answer to some of the statements told here, then posts the links so we can all see what is the truth, not just a few. Anyone who cares anything about this country would do the same.  It's not rocket science. The problem is some people on this board don't care to listen. They're right and everybody else is wrong.They think sam is attacking them personally, when he/she is not, just stating FACTS, not untruths.


    Sorry, OT, but I must disagree

    The liberal media would be analyzing his choice till the cows came home. 


     


    Well, I disagree. s/m

    Did you miss the part where he said, "I'm the decider."?  His old buddy Richard (message says *ick is a bad word.........well, on that we can agree) is guilty right along with him. I do  not think history will be kind to him.  But then it WAS kind to FDR until the republicans came out with their "study" to excuse the fact that Hoover was, before Bush, acknowledged to be the worst president in history.


    I say while you're putting Palin on her dogsled back to Alaska, hitch up a couple of longhorns and point Bush and Cheney back to Texas.  Trouble is I don't think Texas wants them.


    Again, you and I disagree.
    While I do not agree with you, I do respect your right to your opinion.
    disagree, because
    McCain has plenty of energy to get the job and more done; and Palin has more experience than even Obama... Yes, our govn't has lots of checks and balances, but if you put a democratic pres in, with a democ house and democ senate, you have a steamroller effect and dem's have not been very good about 'reaching across the aisle'. Besides, some of the "changes" that may occur in an obama reign may take decades to un-do (appointments of judges for example) and if it makes our country more unsafe and we suffer an enemy attack, that's irreparable damage to lives, and longterm for economy, etc. What about all the jobs lost with his economic (so-called:) plan, and taxation which will hurt small business and cost jobs? (100% of job growth has been in small business) How many more will lose homes, etc under Obama after losing their jobs? How screwed up will our healthcare system become? No, i want a safe USA, i want a stable growing economy, etc and will vote McCain.
    I disagree

    McCain is not throwing people off his bus because they don't report him in a good light.


    McCain is not banning newspaper interviews because they ask him serious questions.


    McCain is not banning networks because they ask him serious questions.


    The O is doing all of this.


    Just because I disagree with you...
    does not make me any more closed minded than you apparently are. It is painfully obvious that neither one of is interested in what the other has to say. If you are not interested in debating with me, you could have just ignored my post. I would not, however, count on those greener pastures.
    I disagree
    What the president elect does in the days prior to his inauguration is important in terms of choosing his staff, etc, but we're not all as enamored of him as some of you, to want to sit googly-eyed in front of the TV and watch his every photo op.

    The important points of his pre-inauguration decisions can be covered in the news or newspaper. I think a lot of us still watch the news and read the newspaper.



    Anyone can disagree

    with one another.  That is human nature.  I can respect someone that can give point and counter point without getting nasty.  There is no need for name calling or veiled side of the mouth comments.  I would love a decent conversation with others whose opinions are or are not always the same as mine. 


    I have to disagree..........sm
    With the government overseeing and directing healthcare to the point that a doctor cannot treat a patient the way that patient needs to be treated, it will be much worse. This measure would also discourage or possibly prohibit the development of new medications and new therapies that could, for instance, cure cancer (or the common cold, which the way I have felt for the past 3 weeks, wouldn't be a bad thing). It could also prohibit the treatment of patients with too many comorbid conditions. Would you want your doctor to tell you that he can't treat your mother for cancer because she has Alzheimer disease and she's terminal anyway? Would you want your child who has cystic fibrosis denied treatment of leukemia because the cystic fibrosis is terminal? Personally, I don't want the government taking over my healthcare, regardless of how much money it might save me.
    Disagree
    Where are you coming up with this stuff?  That doesn't make any sense at all.  Boy, are we in trouble with this kind of nonsense. 
    I disagree with you.

    I have owned Ford, Chrysler, Chevy, American Motors, Rambler, etc. I have been a fan of Oldsmobilie and Buicks since We bought our first one back in the 80s.


    GM's problem is they stopped producting the good cars. I was on their website today. No Olds, only 2 Buicks left. They only produce expensive gas guzzlers like  Cadillacs, Saab, and Hummers.


    Our LeSabre got 30 mpg and still running strong at 175,000. Shame the rest of the car is not good enought to pass inspection. Same with our Olds.  Are they producing them? Nope. Why? They were mid-priced cars with great reliability, great gas mileage, and I like to say popular with middle class people. They now only product the LaCrosse and Lucerne in the Buick line. They don't even produce the Park Avenue which was a luxurious car and one I always wanted (champagne tastes on a beer budget - LOL).


    I won't be buying a new car from GM. There's nothing there I like. They should have thought about phasing out more of the expensive lines than the middle class lines. That's where they went wrong. They probably thought if they stuck to the expensive models, they'd make more money. WRONG!!! They didn't take into consideration the ratio between middle class buyers and upper class buyers.


    As for Chrysler, I owned 2. They were lemons from the get-go. Hubby owned a couple Fords and they were not very reliable either.


    I must disagree with you on this one.
    At least the part about Obama being the best thing that has ever happened to us.  I don't think that is true at all.  I think he has wasted more money spending in such a short time that I hope and pray we don't have him for 8 years.  4 is long and bad enough. 
    I disagree with you.
    The only reason Aunt Louise mentioned how hot it is going to get was to further her religious agenda. She was not referring to global warming in her post, she was referring to what she believes will happen to those who do not hold her same religious beliefs.

    By the way, I have never said or implied in any way that posters are not entitled to their own opinion, whether it differs with mine or not. Every person who posts on MTStars is entitled to express their opinion and agree or disagree with the opinions of other posters.
    Sorry, but I so disagree with this.
    x
    if you disagree
    Don't marry someone the same sex as you. I think it is a wonderful thing whenever 2 people that love each other make a commitment to be wed.
    OMG. I disagree!
    Either way, I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DISAGREE! Rick Warren also disagrees and it should be 1 man and 1 woman when it comes to marriage.
    I disagree too!
    .
    I disagree.....
    For most blacks in this country (those that voted for him) it is about nothing but the fact that he is black...... plain and simple and I have had them tell me that!


    No. I disagree, a
    big thing, no.
    Last not least it is an office. Imagine everybody would bring his supersized flag alont into the office.

    BTW,