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Different strokes for different folks, but evidently....

Posted By: you're outnumbered. on 2008-11-09
In Reply to: Okay, I give up. - Backwards typist

I respect your opinion, but do not share it...not on any level.


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Not at all. Different strokes for different folks.
Deal with it.
Evidently, some rich folks have a conscience
for the sake of COUNTRY FIRST.
Please... don't waste your key strokes on these people.

They only come here to incite, to insult, to spread their hatred and rage all over this board.  It's physically impossible for them to stay on the Conservative board because they all agree, and they're not happy unless they can be vile and nasty and mean and stomp people into the ground, all the time wrapping themselves in the Bible and the flag.  They have posted bait on the Conservative board, and when nobody bites, they migrate to the Liberal board to get their daily fixes of hate mongering.  It must somehow make them feel like they have some power in their pitiful, mundane, unimportant, moronic little lives.


My suggestion is that we don't even read their posts.  Let them see that their posts were read 0 times, with no replies.  We are providing the fuel for their hatred every time we read or respond to one of their hateful posts. 


They simply aren't worth the click of the mouse.


You should but evidently you don't.
Did you bother reading it before you posted?
Evidently everybody here gets this
except you. It will never fly. Will be looking forward to your retraction on this stupidity.
You evidently don't know what a NeoCon is.
She is not one of them. Why do you think Bush & Cheney and other NeoCons are upset by this pick.

Is this what the democrat party has turned into...hateful, mean-spirited, sour, and jealous. Your comments are about the lowest I have seen in a long time.

The only thing I can think of is that you thought because Bush was such a horrible president and everyone hates him that Barack and Joe would just be able to waltz in and take over. Now the republicans have a good VP candidate and there is more and more discussions about how JM has just elevated his chances of winning. The more people are learning about her the more they are like her and all reports for both conservative and liberals are in agreement with one thing...this is an amazing lady and definitely qualified to become the first woman president in history.

You are just grasping at straws trying to invent things that are not true and just stir up trouble.

Your comments are so juvenile. I just say thank goodnes at least I'm not in grammar school anymore.
Well you evidently didn't -
read the article. Can't stand hearing that McCain and Obama are closing in on the polls can you. Not even when it's from CNN which is a liberal station.

Next you really need to change your name. If you are a Christian I am glad I am not one because all you are filled with is hate!
Evidently you are not following your own thread
The rational people are the Obama folks who will not engage in the foolishness of the conspiracy theory to nowhere and the brick wall...well, that would be you, "Everyone should be interested!"
She has it right - evidently you don't know what it means
In Wikipedia: In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation.

Dictionary.com: 1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.

For sure Obama is committing treason.

Whether he gets in or not Hillary Clinton should file a law suit against him. She understand the country better than he does and would make our country a better. We all know whose skeletons are in Hillary's closet. Obama's are just starting to come out.

If they lose I truly hope to hear of a lawsuit as Obama's lies will be what causes them to lose and the democrats a chance of getting in.
So you say, but evidently the courts
I have a tendency to agree with them....so do an overwhelming majority of rational citizens who are just as disgusted as I am over the mental illness that is the driving force behind this lunacy.
Evidently, she did't quite catch your drift.
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Evidently these tiresome accusations
Ever get the feeling you are being tuned out? Boy cries wolf once too often?
Evidently, better than you do. I'm backing the winner,
Better luck next time. Do us all a favor and nominate Failin/Bailin/Palin in 2012.
Evidently not. It's 2930 more days until 01/17/17.
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Evidently, this is nothing new - check date


Potentially Big News on Lieberman's Cap-and-Trade Proposal



Posted September 20, 2007 | 05:06 PM (EST) 
 




Recently, one of the most irksome members of the Senate, Joe Lieberman (I-Clowntown) expressed openness to one of the boldest and most effective climate-change policies possible. Some background,

 





A cap-and-trade system begins by placing a cap on carbon emissions and distributing permits (permission to emit a certain amount of CO2) equal to the capped amount. The notion is that permits will be bought and sold, allowing market forces to determine where emission reductions can be made fastest and easiest. The question is how to distribute those initial permits.


When the EU carbon trading system was established, permits were given away based on emissions, meaning the biggest polluters got the most permits. The idea was that those polluters most needed the money because they had the biggest reductions to make, but in practice it was an enormous financial windfall for their shareholders and prompted very little action on their part to reduce emissions.


The alternative is to sell the permits at auction. This would, in effect, put the proceeds in government coffers rather than in the pockets of utility shareholders. The question then becomes: what should the gov't do with all that money (up to $50B a year)?


The Lieberman-Warner cap-and-trade proposal, released early this year, was widely seen as the "moderate" bill that could get some support from Senate Republicans. One of the biggest criticisms it faced is that it would auction only 20% of the permits -- 80% would be given away to polluters.


But an intriguing item in Politico indicates that Lieberman may be open to changing that:


Lieberman, following a forum sponsored by the Progressive Policy Institute Wednesday, said such a change to his legislation was possible. "We've heard [calls for a 100 percent auction] from some stakeholders and heard that from some of our members. We're thinking about it. Warner and I haven't closed our minds to that. It's on the table," he said.

This could be huge news. The L-W proposal is viewed as the middle of the road. If it moves to 100% auctioned credits, that will effectively sanctify it as the new baseline. The policy and political implications are both huge.


Prove it - You evidently have done your research
I just went back through the last three pages to when I first began posting. Never once did I start off badgering posters calling them names. Not to Mrs. B or anyone else on this board. I have even posted that I was wrong on some issues. I'm never disrepectful of posters. Just because I have a difference of opinion with someone doesn't mean anyone should be disrespectful and I'm not.

So seeing as you are acusing me of having a nasty attitude I want you to find the post and prove it. I've just gone through every single post. I have not been the one initiating anything. But call me Newton, and yes I'll reply by calling you Einstein. So I guess that makes me the nasty name calling and not her?

Telling someone I think they are wrong and explaining why is not having a nasty attitude. Calling someone names for no reason is.
My pardons to you, then. It was evidently picked up by

Fox and of course had the 'ole Fox spin put on it, riling up once again the unstable.


Evidently you hadn't heard the latest.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
and
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933

Evidently he does not understand the gravity of the crisis.
Farewell to Iraq trip timing and all.
Evidently you didn't read the package.

Most of the money will not go to the people. So far, I have not come across anything that deals with foreclosures, etc. The item I posted last night from our local newspaper is the so-called stimulus package that will help foreclosures.


Read the doggone bill that they are trying to pass, please. Then you may see the light of day.


Evidently you didn't read the post....
no one said a black person wouldn't vote for anyone but Obama (HELLO.....Steele, etc., etc.).
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time.
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time. Rush Limbaugh is the Democrats worst hope/fear to losing the next election. Not the only reason though because the Democrats are doing a great job of that on their own.
You evidently have no idea - the parts fit just fine
It's called creativity. Having a sexual relationship is more involved than only the act to have a child. There is the emotional aspect and the joy of it. When you love someone you find a way to express it, and you have fun.
You evidently have a hard time staying on task.
if your mother, father, daughter, son, grandmother, grandfather, husband or best friend cast a vote in the early election and passed away on November 4th, how would it make you feel if their votes were thrown out?
You evidently didn't read my post - it was not a question
of if you think he's done harm. He has, it's a fact and no matter how much you want to cover it up you can't. You think bowing to our enemy, telling other countries we are selfish, and that we don't want our jobs so they can have them, tripling our deficit (nothing Bush had to do with -sorry can't pull that crap anymore), lining the pockets of his rich friends and CEOs, filling his cabinet with unqualified crooks and thieves, and the list goes on and on and on. And that's just the first 90 days. So the question was how many more years will it take to undo the harm. You can keep drinking the kool-aid thinking socialistm/communism is fine. It is not. Even the other countries keep telling him - "Don't go there, it is not a path you want to take", while other country leaders who are telling him not to go there are saying "why aren't you listening to us. We've been there and done that and it doesn't work".

Hence, how many more years will it take to undo the harm he has already done (and its only been less than 90 days). My guess is at least 2. It's going to be hard once he's out of office, but I do have faith the country will bounce back as long as we have some decent politicians in the office and take congress out from the control of the crats.
Evidently, pubs didn't care that McC directly denied
tried to diffuse all the scare tactics fall-out. What I want to know is why would McC supporters and their campaign turn a blind eye to a frightened senile old woman and keep right on pushing agendas that will produce more such embarrassing moments for their own candidate? Is this the kind of leadership we can expect under a McCain regime? How disconnected is this candidate from his own campaign management and supporters? Is that really the picture you want to paint for him? How much more fuel do you guys intend to use to stoke the fires of ignorance, division and deceit?

McCain seemed really sad last night when he tried to reassure that shaking, frail, senile old woman, but instead of looking presidential, he just looked like a beaten down has-been. Congratuations on an utterly moronic campaign strategy. Enjoy the fall-out.
Evidently, Cheney doesn't agree...NODDED OFF during the drivel
Now THAT'S disrespectful!
Evidently you forgot Bush has been releasing terrorists for some time.....

Releasing Gitmo prisoners carry risks


Andrew O. Selsky ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, January 29, 2009


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico | The re-emergence of two former Guantanamo Bay prisoners as AL Qaeda terrorists in the past week won't likely change U.S. policy on transfers to Saudi Arabia, the Pentagon says.


More than 100 Saudis have been repatriated from the U.S. military's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Saudi Arabia, where the government puts them through a rehabilitation program designed to encourage them to abandon Islamic extremism and reintegrate into civilian life.


The online boasts by two of these men that they have joined al Qaeda in Yemen underscore that the Saudi system isn't fail-safe, the Pentagon said Monday. A U.S. counterterrorism official in Washington confirmed the men had been Guantanamo detainees. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose that fact on the record.


Another two or three Saudis who had been transferred from Guantanamo cannot be located by the Saudi government, said Christopher Boucek, a researcher at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.


Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. sees the Saudi program as admirable.


"The best you can do is work with partner nations in the international community to ensure that they take the steps to mitigate the threat ex-detainees pose," he said. "There are never any absolute guarantees. There's an inherent risk in all detainee transfers and releases from Guantanamo."


The deprogramming effort -- built on reason, enticements and lengthy talks with psychiatrists, Muslim clerics and sociologists -- is part of a concerted Saudi government effort to counter the ideology that nurtured the 9/11 hijackers and that has lured hundreds of Saudis to join the Iraq insurgency. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis, as is the mastermind of the attacks, Osama bin Laden.


A total of 218 men, including former Guantanamo detainees, have gone through the reintegration program, according to the Saudi Ministry of Interior. Nine were later arrested again, an "official source" at the ministry said in a dispatch from the official Saudi Press Agency. The report said some of the nine were former detainees, but did not give a breakdown.


The Saudi Interior Ministry official said most of the graduates "resumed their natural lives and some of them voluntarily contributed to the activities of this program to help others return to natural life."


Frank Ciluffo, a researcher on security issues at George Washington University, said a program that doesn't work all the time is better than none because the alternative is an extended prison sentence, which only further radicalizes a person.


Evidently, my conservative friend, there is no opportunity to be missed in attacking Bush.
And threads are being hijacked on the conservative board as well.  It's amazing.
You mean the pro-war folks ?
The ones in their Scooby-doo T-shirts and bedroom slippers? LOL - the ones babbling about 9/11 as if it had something to do with Iraq? I think the only washing that needs to go on is in their ears.
Don't know of any folks like that.

Don't know of anyone who thinks this country is the great Satan.  Not at all.  The folks I talk to feel this country has its foibles, failings and quirks just like most other nations.  We are not perfect and never will be.  But we shouldn't give up simply because we're not perfect.  Turning a blind eye to this country's problems will solve nothing, though, only perpetuate its problems and make us weaker in the end.


You may see some of us as spouting hatred for this country when in reality it is love, albeit sometimes a tough love.  If you care about your child you want them to improve and become the best they can.  Same with the U.S.


Otherwise, all these Satan =U.S. folks....can you provide compelling statistical evidence for this statement?


you folks are just sad. (nm)
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Well, here you have it folks.....

Here are your civil rights being stripped to the core.  Excuse me, but I believe that is what our police force is for.  Only this is disguised as taking care of the citizens at home.  We do not need a miliary brigade "specifically" detailed to take care of "our" citizens.  You need to read very carefully what is being said here, folks, and it AIN'T for your own good, even though there will be those who think this is wonderful news!!!


Please pay close attention to the "crowd and traffic control equipment" they will be using on you, which they are sooooo excited about!   These will be your relatives being deployed within our borders not to protect us against intruders but to do just what you see in other countries, when you see their military all over their streets,  monitoring their citizens' every move.... and, of course, there is the brainwashing where some of these military indivdiuals believe they are doing an "honorable" thing and "noble mission".....Mission?  You want a mission?..... find another job besides the one where you are "monitoring" and stripping your citizens of their civil rights. 


Consequence Management Response Force.....I believe is what they call it now.....  consequences of what?  Protests, which is our right, speaking up and out against our government, which is our civil rights......just watch what will be happening if you don't start screaming loudly and long. 


I always wonder what is going on behind the scenes with our government when something "big" starts going on that distracts our attention away from something else.  Well, like they didn't know the Wall Street crowd and all the financial institutions weren't corrupt and crooked as sin.....right!!!  Now seems like a good time to distract you and SUDDENLY it all comes out.   Better keep your eye on your government folks.    There's the real problem!!!!!


 


 


 


 


http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/


 


 


for folks who don't want to think for themselves
Just wanted to finish your sentence fragment.

'Huff is a great site ... for folks who don't want to think for themselves, and would rather have hate mongers give them snarky falsehoods to repost ad nauseum on web sites in a sad attempt to keep people from scrutinizing their vunderkid candidate.'

You can thank me later. :)
Well there you have it folks
I'm not the only one who can say what "change" we want to see.  Good post.
Folks......... sm
Somebody is jerking your chain. "Judy" is just doing this to get something riled up on the board..... Like we need any help in that department! HAHAHAHA
Most folks will say that.......... sm
we should get behind Obama and watch his every step because they are probably not taking the time to look at ALL sides of information available. Trust is earned, GP, and Obama has not earned my trust because of his refusal to present the one thing that would clear up this issue. If he is to be trusted, then why doesn't he just produce it? Why must he be hounded and brought before the SC to prove his citizenship which any number of Americans would have no trouble producing? When he earns my trust, then I will be willing to give him a chance, but I'm not tossing my trust to someone who is apparently hiding something and someone who has so many other issues that I can't trust. That would be like saying "Let's let Charles Manson out. He's been in here for years and hasn't done anything wrong. Let's give him a chance."
Many folks would be better off if they had
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For us old folks....(sm)
This is not meant as anything bad.  I just thought it was funny.  After looking at Bush for 8 years, it finally dawned on me last night who he looks like.  How about Dickie Smothers from the Smothers Brothers.....ROFL...
Well, here ya go folks!

Here's your global economy...........want to move to India?


http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/05/news/companies/ibm_jobs/index.htm



 


I think all most folks see is..........sm
they might get free or low-cost healthcare. Sure, it might cost them less out of the pocket, but what will it cost them in terms of their health, which has no price tag?
That ain't all folks!
He also said NO LOBBYISTS but you see he has 12, count them, TWELVE, of them in his administration..........!!!!


We're finally seeing some O lovers around here not so quick to sing his praises now days! They're finally waking up to the truth about this guy! Suddenly, trillions of dollars in debt doesn't seem like such a great idea to them!



It's so sad that folks can actually believe that. nm
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Well folks, here I am again s/m

Yes, I voted against McCain/Palin which effectively means I voted for Obama.  Okay, I'm not sorry about that, still would not like to have seen McCain/Palin in the White House.  Don't think they'd be looking out for the interest of America either.


Am I happy with Obama?  No.  First he's run us into debt so that the only light at the end of the tunnel, as I see it, is a freight train, and a BIG one at that, coming.  The stimulus may  have stimulated the economy in the moment, Arkansas is planning a hiring spree with that extra "free" cash which obviously will create jobs but they say that when that free money is gone, the jobs will also be gone.  So we will be left no better off than we were before, just deeper in debt.  Oh yeah, as retirees, my husband and I got that $250 stimulus check.  News flash....we didn't run out and spend it nor did we use it to pay debts as we have none.  It's sitting right in the bank where it will remain as we are hoarding money for worse times to come.  Those I have talked to who are working and get the supposed reduction in taxes say it isn't enough that they've even noticed any extra money.


This morning I read that he is all primed and cocked to sign the long awaited smoking reform.  Do people not realize that this is just one more of our personal freedoms that is being taken away?  So some of you are glad but what about when the next freedom that affects YOU is taken away?  Maybe it's guns or whatever is dear to your heart.  The push is on to  legalize marijuana.  Sorry but my experience with marijuana is that it is not harmless.  But maybe it'll make all of us who smoke feel better about the direction our country is headed, something tobacco really doesn't provide.


What we need is NOT a Democrat and NOT a Republican.  What we need is someone in the White House (and other branches of the government) with some common sense and who are not puppets for special interests.  And I don't care how much Obama says "no more business as usual in Washington," from where I sit it most certainly is business as usual.  God save us all!!


 


Too bad folks, it's not just the left...sm
Like Lurker said, the gig is up! People are pushing for change in Iraq. Personally, I would have rather seen us release the full fury on terrorist who are invading that country and clean it up before leaving. However, if our strategy is to keep peddling around like street police then something has to give. We have our own country to fix and too much attention has been given to Iraq in the past 3 years.

On to the economy for a sec. Republicans have been boasting on how good the economy is doing, but guess which group is reaping the benefits. You guessed it - the rich. So sorry if the working man, you know those of us who punch the clock, are not feeling so thankful for the Dow and Nasdaq earnings. What's funny is that the *beltway boys* as AG calls them can not seem to figure out why 50% of Americans tend to feel the economy is not so hot.
Are you ridiculing folks who...
use "folksy" sayings?

I know one thing for sure...if I was fighting for my life I would want one of those "folksy" folks at my back.
Can you imagine all these folks
worrying about the pubs wasting 150,000 of their little handful of funds? You got Obama there who has spent more $$ than anyone in political history, and isn't near through yet. Now, how many hungry children could he have fed? Remember, this is another one of his lies where he first agreed to accept public funding, however.
Here's something for you scared folks. s/m

Here in NW Arkansas I've had the inside scoop for some time on a situation that ought to scare the living dickens out of everyone who works for a living.


I have known for some time that Don Tyson was going to come out of retirement and take over the reins of Tyson Food again.  The news story broke yesterday.  By the way, Don Tyson is a rabid Republican.  None of the following is heresay, I know the guy.


Most of you probably find Tyson products in your local grocery.  If you eat at McDonalds you eat Tyson chicken tenders.


In the farming area where I live probably 75% of the people have either worked in some facet of the chicken industry or they have retired with a fortune they made in the chicken industry.  Most people contracted with Tyson to raise their chickens.  Low income workers worked in the hatcheries and chicken processing plants.  Not to mention the people who had good jobs in the corporate offices.  Within the last several years Tyson replaced their low income workers with illegal aliens.  They started building their own chicken farms and imported Mongs from (Minnesota or somewhere) to run them at much less cost than their contract growers but they are so big they didn't replace all of their growers.


What some of you call the "low lifes" worked  in this chicken business, a dirty, nasty job.  Some of them did  this because there is nothing else they can do.  They are uneducated, some are not too bright but they WORK.  I know one who can't even read and write.   Most of them now drive 25-30 miles to Fayetteville to work in fast food, as janitors or whatever low-paying job they can find and you see their old jalopies by the side of the road where they've either broken down or run out of gas.  These "low life people" don't want handouts, they want to work.  I feel sorry for them.


Now the news flash?  Tyson has  bought chicken processing plants in Argentina, Brazil  and China because "the cost of feed is making it cost prohibitive to do business here."  This is going to not only take jobs out of this country, it is going to leave many farmers who are still growing  chickens (and pork) not only unemployed but with thousands of dollars in debt because of the investments they have made in chicken farming.  20 years ago it cost $100,000 for a farmer to build a commercial chicken house.  I shudder to think what it costs today.  The plan is to raise chickens abroad and process them and bring them home to America.


So  all of you who work for a living whether you work in the chicken industry or another, had better be scared.  John McCain from his own mouth proclaimed himself to be the biggest free trader ever.  Free trade hasn't worked too well for Americans has it?


The inside scoop is buy Tyson stock now.  Not me.  I will NOT profit by costing American people their jobs.


I've changed my plean from "God Bless America" to "God Have Mercy on America."


How does this relate to the election?  For one thing I don't think we need another "biggest free trader ever" in the White House.


 


I agree. Too bad more folks don't
Some of them apparently don't think much at all.
Umm, folks? They will advertise either way.
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