Can you imagine all these folks
Posted By: Nanaw on 2008-10-22
In Reply to: I'm sure if she was - sbMT
worrying about the pubs wasting 150,000 of their little handful of funds? You got Obama there who has spent more $$ than anyone in political history, and isn't near through yet. Now, how many hungry children could he have fed? Remember, this is another one of his lies where he first agreed to accept public funding, however.
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LOL. I can only imagine the
campaign ads that would have emerged from the Clinton campaign against Ms. Now-where-did-I-put-my-notes Pirro.
Hillary hasn't impressed me much lately, though, and I truly can't imagine myself voting for her if she runs for President.
I would imagine...
the conservative magazine was interested because of the infighting that starts during the primaries...when the Democrats start taking potshots at each over over the bow. I have no trouble believing the Clinton campaign leaked it. While he was not in a medrasa (although the source I saw who went and investigated it was a reporter from CNN, so hardly impartial), it was a Muslim school. I also found it odd that the report said it could not be substantiated rather than it was a lie. Usually CNN goes big with the it was a lie and I did not hear that from this reporter, which makes me think there is more than they are telling. All that being said, I don't see how he can have first hand knowledge of Muslims and Islam if his father left when he was a boy and he was educated in non-Muslim schools, as he and everyone else seems to be saying, trying to distance themselves from anything Muslim. How is he more qualified than any other American politician to talk about Islam and Muslims? After all, he is not a Muslim...right? You aren't sure either, apparently. However, if he was, that is not the reason I would not vote for him. There are several others and more important ones in my estimation.
Trying To Imagine . . .
An Atheist President
I'd like to do more than imagine it. sm
I'd like it to be a reality - again (see below). Think of it, a president who bases his/her decisions on facts, reason, and logic rather than beliefs in a supernatural fantasy (i.e., the Bush administration).
Actually, presidents Lincoln, Jefferson, and I think Madison were athiests or deists. They certainly weren't christians, and neither were many of the founding fathers. And even those that were (christians) were, above all, secularists. I find it tragic that we've gotten so far away from that.
Imagine
JM in a meeting with Russian or Iraq leaders about nuclear arms. JM gets mad, calls the leader a "#@@#$#" and shoves him. Lord love a duck.
Just imagine a man outside
by his car and a young child walking by and the man says to the young child, "I've got some candy. Do you want some candy? You have to get into my car if you want a piece of candy."
Or how about Obamanation groupies.....Do you want change. You have to get onto my bus and register to vote for change. Remember Uhhbama is change. HAIL OBAMA! McCain bad.....Uhhbama good.
Just imagine
the US government decided to rid itself of its low income housing woes by exporting it to the Indian reservations or 50 miles inside the Mexican or Canadia border. The could simply establish exclusive use infrastructure (roads, water, electricity, sewage), build a housing development, subsidize loans and pay ghetto residents a bounty to pack up and move out of the country.
Do not kid yourself into believing that Israel's splitering of the West Bank is some random accident. This is just one more of a long list of methods they have been using to shrink the geography right out from under the Palestinians to the point where it can no longer support the population and force their flight into the diapora, all neat and tidy. Why do you think they fight so hard to prevent the right of return?
Another lie - imagine that
Lie after lie after lie after attack after attack after attack.
This is just not true.
I definitely cannot imagine
a guy with multiple wives having the love and commitment for all of them that a person with only one spouse has.
And I certainly can't imagine........... sm
a man loving a man or a woman a woman in a sexual way and wanting to be married in the eyes of the law.....but that's just me. I guess all things are possible.
Certainly, a man with multiple wives, I would think, would not be able to give equal love and committment to just one. His attentions would be divided and I don't even want to think about the in-fighting amongst the co-wives. BUT who is to say that all marriages are based on love alone?
I can now imagine what Obama
felt when he was linked, ever so tenuously, with VP Cheney.
I just can't imagine that happening.
I mean....wouldn't that look bad for the Dems for the VP to just say....I don't want to do this....I've changed my mind and then this close to the election start with a new running mate? Besides....Hill doesn't want to play second fiddle to Barry. Personally, I don't think true Hill supporters will like her lpaying second fiddle to Barry either. I will be truly surprised if this happens. I guess I will believe it if I see it but not until then.
You'd be wrong to imagine that.
Having been born in a silver-sppon neighborhood, I can tell you the best thing that ever happened to me is the divorce that busted me, my sisters, brother and mom back down into the middle class. Money was nothing but misery for family members trying to compete with it for attention. Be careful what you ask for.
Thanks for the visual. Having fun trying to imagine it.
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Can you imagine what his life would be like if the
Life is hard enough for kids, even when everything goes as planned. The schoolyard is a cruel, cruel place.
And what about every time he does something wrong, or sasses back at his mom? There will be the either implied or spoken insinuation that it came from his dad's bad seed.
Hard to imagine how this could
**'escalate violence' in the region since nobody has safe in those waters for years. Should we be like the woman abused by her husband for years, who doesn't want him arrested because she doesn't want to 'make him mad' ?
So these lawless jerks hijack, steal, kidnap, threaten murder, then swear vengeance when we oppose them? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy
......One of the pirates pointed an AK-47 at the back of Phillips, who was tied up and in "imminent danger" of being killed when the commander of the nearby USS Bainbridge made the split-second decision to order his men to shoot, Vice Adm. Bill Gortney said. The lifeboat was being towed by the Bainbridge at the time, he said.
A fourth pirate was in discussions with naval authorities about Phillips' fate when the rescue took place. He is in U.S. custody and could face could face life in a U.S. prison.
**"This could escalate violence in this part of the world, no question about it," said Gortney, the commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command.
Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding the Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, said: "Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," he told The Associated Press. "We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men.......
Imagine that; the usual suspects who
more to offer than more of the same swiftboating as the Kool-Aid drunks applaud them.
So just imagine how much "better" things will be for all
In our 'great' economy, we'll have:
- Gasoline that is unaffordable to all but the wealthy.
- Blackened coastlines from offshore drilling.
- Few living-wage jobs left in the U.S.
- More foreign missles (and passenger jets) aimed at our cities.
- The likely loss of a woman's control over her own reproductive system.
- Even less separation of church-and-state than there is now.
- Further disappearance of our country's middle-class (the ones they expect to carry our economy on its shoulders). There will be the rich, and there will be the working poor, and with the current state of housing and rental rates, more of them will probably graduate to the status of 'car-dweller'.
Yeah, it all looks like a rosy future, alright.
I don't imagine you bothered to read...
entire thread...but why would you? lol.
The clip has been pulled - imagine that!
They sure are trying their hardest to keep what it is they are about out of the news.
As the infamous Indiana Jones stated.....
"Nazi's.....I hate these guys."
Can you imagine living in a red state, and
having to walk down your street every day, knowing most, if not all, of your neighbors thought that way? Where trying to have an actual conversation with anyone would be like talking to a brick wall? Where you figure all the moms & dads sitting in bleachers at your kid's little league came probably wear white sheets at night? Brrrrrrrr.......
Gives me the heebie-jeebies.
I cannot imagine not knowing how many homes I have
They are just living in a parallel universe. He talks big but I can tell when McBush speaks that he really doesn't "feel" the pain of the middle class or heaven forbid, the poor or the seniors on fixed incomes. That is something he will never have to feel.
Now 120K, imagine that. DH makes that and more on his own...so much
for me having to work any longer (now I can wait by the mailbox for a check!). What a country where you get penalized for hard work and doing the right thing.
I'm agreeing with your post - imagine that :-)
However, I couldn't find where anyone called you "stupid". Someone who just put the initials sm above called me "stupid".
Here's my thing when I say O worshippers. I am not talking about all of you. There are a few that come on this board and cut down anyone who doesn't "google" and drool at the mention of Obama's name. They can't tell you his policies or ideas or anything. They just go on and on about how we're all trying to spoil their joy and glee that Obama was voted and their dancing in circles. Well that's all fine and good. When I say O worshippers/lovers I'm talking about people who know nothing about Obama's policies. I've read his policies and plans - I don't like them. That's my opinion. When people bash me for no good reason except that I'm not blindly dancing around in circles over-joyed that Obama got in and when I post some serious questions about his policies and ideas and get bashed for it, those are the people I call O worshippers/lovers.
This whole issue of political families "inheriting" their relatives seat is outright disgusting. There are so many qualified people to fill the seats and what do we get someone holding a seat for Biden's son when he returns from his tour of duty and it will just be handed to him without him having to campaign for it, or another Kennedy in the seat just cos her name is Kennedty and the most laughable one Chelsea? I am losing all interest in politics because all I see is corruption. They are treating their positions in the senate as though they are royalty and the position just handed down to their relatives. If I never see or hear of another Kennedy, Clinton, or Bush it will be too soon. There are so many unknown people in politics that are really good people, but they get tossed aside. Why? Cos they don't have money.
As for your last paragraph regarding how can anyone defend the Bush administration and what Cheney said, etc. All I can say is I agree, I agree, I agree 100%. Although I do have to say it goes even farther then those two ninnies - there were plenty of other players who had a say in this farce of a war, and the reason why or economy is going into a depression.
I think he's more deceptive than people imagine........
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I like it here. Besides, mostly all they discuss there is current events. Imagine that. nm
I can't begin to imagine what the parents must feel.
I would be so enraged if I were in their position that I'm not sure what I'd do. I hope I would remember that keeping my family together and supporting my child (or children if there are siblings) has to be a priority, but on the other hand, to know that this monster is free to walk the streets and do this to other children... I'm not sure I wouldn't do whatever was necessary to put him either behind bars or underground. I certainly couldn't condemn a parent in that situation who made that choice.
I really hope there is enough uproar over this to change things. Otherwise, what choice do people have to protect their children but to take the law into their own hands? These judges (and legislators, for that matter) need to realize that, like guards in a prison, government rules by consent of the governed. Fail to protect the governed or to enforce reasonable laws in a just manner, and the governed will assume control one way or another. I am not an anarchist by any means, but law and order is one of the most basic governmental responsibilities. We can argue til the cows come home about everything else we would or wouldn't like the government involved in, but if they fail on too large a scale in this most basic duty, vigilantism and anarchy become inevitable.
Miss Thang, I imagine that you could offend
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Talking about Florida, I can only imagine how things would have been...sm
different in our country if only AL Gore had been president for the last 8 years instead of George Bush.
Very true. Can anyone imagine living on minimum...sm
wage and being made to feel you are not valued, never mind paying your bills. There are a LOT of working poor out there that do not look for a handout and struggle every day to be good parents. It is unbelievable to me that so many people think that the poor are all lazy and worthless. I am sure the sterotype makes the rich able to justify not paying a little more to those lazy ignorant people that just need to pull themselves up by their boot straps while I have a house for every month of the year and a yacht and never have to worry about if my light or heating bill is paid or if I have enough money to buy food for my kids. Don't get me started.
One would imagine so he can get bipartisan 1st-hand info
It is appropriate that he continues exactly on the course he is following for the moment...cabinet building, prioritizing and preparing initiatives for day one so as to hit the gound running.
Yeah, think things are bad with Obama? Imagine
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Imagine that simple statement being recited by a white man about blacks.
It would have been labeled a racist remark.
I agree...Imagine the brave soul who would give an oppositional opinion...sm
It would be career suicide IMHO.
You mean the pro-war folks ?
The ones in their Scooby-doo T-shirts and bedroom slippers? LOL - the ones babbling about 9/11 as if it had something to do with Iraq? I think the only washing that needs to go on is in their ears.
Don't know of any folks like that.
Don't know of anyone who thinks this country is the great Satan. Not at all. The folks I talk to feel this country has its foibles, failings and quirks just like most other nations. We are not perfect and never will be. But we shouldn't give up simply because we're not perfect. Turning a blind eye to this country's problems will solve nothing, though, only perpetuate its problems and make us weaker in the end.
You may see some of us as spouting hatred for this country when in reality it is love, albeit sometimes a tough love. If you care about your child you want them to improve and become the best they can. Same with the U.S.
Otherwise, all these Satan =U.S. folks....can you provide compelling statistical evidence for this statement?
you folks are just sad. (nm)
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Well, here you have it folks.....
 Here are your civil rights being stripped to the core. Excuse me, but I believe that is what our police force is for. Only this is disguised as taking care of the citizens at home. We do not need a miliary brigade "specifically" detailed to take care of "our" citizens. You need to read very carefully what is being said here, folks, and it AIN'T for your own good, even though there will be those who think this is wonderful news!!!
Please pay close attention to the "crowd and traffic control equipment" they will be using on you, which they are sooooo excited about! These will be your relatives being deployed within our borders not to protect us against intruders but to do just what you see in other countries, when you see their military all over their streets, monitoring their citizens' every move.... and, of course, there is the brainwashing where some of these military indivdiuals believe they are doing an "honorable" thing and "noble mission".....Mission? You want a mission?..... find another job besides the one where you are "monitoring" and stripping your citizens of their civil rights.
Consequence Management Response Force.....I believe is what they call it now..... consequences of what? Protests, which is our right, speaking up and out against our government, which is our civil rights......just watch what will be happening if you don't start screaming loudly and long.
I always wonder what is going on behind the scenes with our government when something "big" starts going on that distracts our attention away from something else. Well, like they didn't know the Wall Street crowd and all the financial institutions weren't corrupt and crooked as sin.....right!!! Now seems like a good time to distract you and SUDDENLY it all comes out. Better keep your eye on your government folks. There's the real problem!!!!!
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
for folks who don't want to think for themselves
Just wanted to finish your sentence fragment.
'Huff is a great site ... for folks who don't want to think for themselves, and would rather have hate mongers give them snarky falsehoods to repost ad nauseum on web sites in a sad attempt to keep people from scrutinizing their vunderkid candidate.'
You can thank me later. :)
Well there you have it folks
I'm not the only one who can say what "change" we want to see. Good post.
Folks......... sm
Somebody is jerking your chain. "Judy" is just doing this to get something riled up on the board..... Like we need any help in that department! HAHAHAHA
Most folks will say that.......... sm
we should get behind Obama and watch his every step because they are probably not taking the time to look at ALL sides of information available. Trust is earned, GP, and Obama has not earned my trust because of his refusal to present the one thing that would clear up this issue. If he is to be trusted, then why doesn't he just produce it? Why must he be hounded and brought before the SC to prove his citizenship which any number of Americans would have no trouble producing? When he earns my trust, then I will be willing to give him a chance, but I'm not tossing my trust to someone who is apparently hiding something and someone who has so many other issues that I can't trust. That would be like saying "Let's let Charles Manson out. He's been in here for years and hasn't done anything wrong. Let's give him a chance."
Many folks would be better off if they had
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For us old folks....(sm)
This is not meant as anything bad. I just thought it was funny. After looking at Bush for 8 years, it finally dawned on me last night who he looks like. How about Dickie Smothers from the Smothers Brothers.....ROFL...
Well, here ya go folks!
Here's your global economy...........want to move to India?
http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/05/news/companies/ibm_jobs/index.htm
I think all most folks see is..........sm
they might get free or low-cost healthcare. Sure, it might cost them less out of the pocket, but what will it cost them in terms of their health, which has no price tag?
That ain't all folks!
He also said NO LOBBYISTS but you see he has 12, count them, TWELVE, of them in his administration..........!!!!
We're finally seeing some O lovers around here not so quick to sing his praises now days! They're finally waking up to the truth about this guy! Suddenly, trillions of dollars in debt doesn't seem like such a great idea to them!
It's so sad that folks can actually believe that. nm
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Well folks, here I am again s/m
Yes, I voted against McCain/Palin which effectively means I voted for Obama. Okay, I'm not sorry about that, still would not like to have seen McCain/Palin in the White House. Don't think they'd be looking out for the interest of America either.
Am I happy with Obama? No. First he's run us into debt so that the only light at the end of the tunnel, as I see it, is a freight train, and a BIG one at that, coming. The stimulus may have stimulated the economy in the moment, Arkansas is planning a hiring spree with that extra "free" cash which obviously will create jobs but they say that when that free money is gone, the jobs will also be gone. So we will be left no better off than we were before, just deeper in debt. Oh yeah, as retirees, my husband and I got that $250 stimulus check. News flash....we didn't run out and spend it nor did we use it to pay debts as we have none. It's sitting right in the bank where it will remain as we are hoarding money for worse times to come. Those I have talked to who are working and get the supposed reduction in taxes say it isn't enough that they've even noticed any extra money.
This morning I read that he is all primed and cocked to sign the long awaited smoking reform. Do people not realize that this is just one more of our personal freedoms that is being taken away? So some of you are glad but what about when the next freedom that affects YOU is taken away? Maybe it's guns or whatever is dear to your heart. The push is on to legalize marijuana. Sorry but my experience with marijuana is that it is not harmless. But maybe it'll make all of us who smoke feel better about the direction our country is headed, something tobacco really doesn't provide.
What we need is NOT a Democrat and NOT a Republican. What we need is someone in the White House (and other branches of the government) with some common sense and who are not puppets for special interests. And I don't care how much Obama says "no more business as usual in Washington," from where I sit it most certainly is business as usual. God save us all!!
Too bad folks, it's not just the left...sm
Like Lurker said, the gig is up! People are pushing for change in Iraq. Personally, I would have rather seen us release the full fury on terrorist who are invading that country and clean it up before leaving. However, if our strategy is to keep peddling around like street police then something has to give. We have our own country to fix and too much attention has been given to Iraq in the past 3 years.
On to the economy for a sec. Republicans have been boasting on how good the economy is doing, but guess which group is reaping the benefits. You guessed it - the rich. So sorry if the working man, you know those of us who punch the clock, are not feeling so thankful for the Dow and Nasdaq earnings. What's funny is that the *beltway boys* as AG calls them can not seem to figure out why 50% of Americans tend to feel the economy is not so hot.
Are you ridiculing folks who...
use "folksy" sayings?
I know one thing for sure...if I was fighting for my life I would want one of those "folksy" folks at my back.
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