Evidently, my conservative friend, there is no opportunity to be missed in attacking Bush.

• Save Lewis sm - Donna
  • I say at the very least the owner should get some kind of punishment. - Hummmm
    • Food for thought - Lurker
      • Those are really fine words. - Lila
        • Yes, they are very fine words.. - Lurker
          • I can't agree. - Lila
            • My response is to Hmmmmm. - Lurker
              • You posted under my post, thus I assumed it was in response to me. - Lila
      • Bravo, Lurker! Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - no msg. - Starcat
    • Hate, how sad. Maybe that's why they poop in your garden. nm - Donna
      • The owner is responsible for her pet. - Lila
      • Oh get over yourself. - Hmmmmm
  • I took the poll...sm - Democrat
    • I agree. But put to sleep, no way. sm - Donna
      • LOL...about your cats :) sm - Democrat

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Releasing Gitmo prisoners carry risks

Andrew O. Selsky ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, January 29, 2009

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico | The re-emergence of two former Guantanamo Bay prisoners as AL Qaeda terrorists in the past week won't likely change U.S. policy on transfers to Saudi Arabia, the Pentagon says.

More than 100 Saudis have been repatriated from the U.S. military's prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Saudi Arabia, where the government puts them through a rehabilitation program designed to encourage them to abandon Islamic extremism and reintegrate into civilian life.

The online boasts by two of these men that they have joined al Qaeda in Yemen underscore that the Saudi system isn't fail-safe, the Pentagon said Monday. A U.S. counterterrorism official in Washington confirmed the men had been Guantanamo detainees. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to disclose that fact on the record.

Another two or three Saudis who had been transferred from Guantanamo cannot be located by the Saudi government, said Christopher Boucek, a researcher at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Navy Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon, a Pentagon spokesman, said the U.S. sees the Saudi program as admirable.

"The best you can do is work with partner nations in the international community to ensure that they take the steps to mitigate the threat ex-detainees pose," he said. "There are never any absolute guarantees. There's an inherent risk in all detainee transfers and releases from Guantanamo."

The deprogramming effort -- built on reason, enticements and lengthy talks with psychiatrists, Muslim clerics and sociologists -- is part of a concerted Saudi government effort to counter the ideology that nurtured the 9/11 hijackers and that has lured hundreds of Saudis to join the Iraq insurgency. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis, as is the mastermind of the attacks, Osama bin Laden.

A total of 218 men, including former Guantanamo detainees, have gone through the reintegration program, according to the Saudi Ministry of Interior. Nine were later arrested again, an "official source" at the ministry said in a dispatch from the official Saudi Press Agency. The report said some of the nine were former detainees, but did not give a breakdown.

The Saudi Interior Ministry official said most of the graduates "resumed their natural lives and some of them voluntarily contributed to the activities of this program to help others return to natural life."

Frank Ciluffo, a researcher on security issues at George Washington University, said a program that doesn't work all the time is better than none because the alternative is an extended prison sentence, which only further radicalizes a person.

chose from on the list of people who were less likely to be fillerbustered. 

Contrarily, on Hannity and Coombs last night it was reported that he was very involved and enthusiastic about this case, and I think that he was justified in doing so given the magnitude of the injustices against gays.  It's commendable. 

This was on Meet the Press yesterday.  William Safire is a renowned conservative, who was describing his Nixon years.  Any of this sound familiar?

*I was writing a speech on welfare reform, and the president looks at it and says, OK, I'll go with it, but this is not going to get covered. Leak it as far an wide as you can beforehand. Maybe we'll get something in the paper. And so I go back to my office and I get a call from a reporter, and he wants to know about foreign affairs or something, and I said, Hey, you want a leak? I'll tell you what the president will say tomorrow about welfare reform. And he took it down and wrote a little story about it. But the FBI was illegally tapping his phone at the time, and so they hear a White House speechwriter say, Hey, you want a leak? And so they tapped my phone, and for six months, every home phone call I got was tapped. I didn't like that. And when it finally broke--it did me a lot of good at the time, frankly, because then I was on the right side--but it told me how easy it was to just take somebody who is not really suspected of anything for any good reason and listen to every conversation in his home--you know, my wife talking to her doctor, my--everything.*

George W. Bush says he is only illegally wiretapping terrorists. William Safire isn't buying it.

behavior by voting for/against him is officially over.  Break on through to the new millenium.

Quite apart from Obama already having been sucker-punched diplomatically by Putin and Medvedev (but apparently having learned nothing from it), and having absolutely no confidence that the Russians will be honest brokers anyway, I hope Obama leaves us enough nukes to deal with Iran and North Korea - and whatever rogue countries they sell their missiles to.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/31/russia-agree-start-talks-seek-reduce-nuclear-arms/

It has never been a winning strategy to deal with regimes like these from a position of reduced strength.  Never.  Ever.

Unacceptable answer for word verbiage. Do people actually let you get away with that?

Posted By: ? on 2006-03-03,
In Reply to: Find it yourself... - Lurker

You must run in really tolerant debate circles.  Best stay in them.  This kind of behavior is not tolerated in most political circles I know of.  But it is a good example of how far we have slipped into the he said/she said atmosphere of debate in this country.  Just say anything and never have to prove it.  It works well for the MSM, of which you seem so fond.  Well, should have known better. I am off for greener pastures and debate fields where people actually have to prove what they say.  Imagine that!

Isn't he half white and half black?  I thought that was the case for Obama.  I am voting for Obama, but I know there are people saying that he will most likely need a lot of security.  The white suppremists (spelling??) are still around.  I just think he is much more suited and in better health to make decisions and not always "go with the good ole boys." 

Oh yeah back to the multicolored...  I remember being taught when there were references made like "I don't care if he's white, purple, orange, or black."  Well people don't come in orange or purple????   Know what I mean?  So what is multicolored (rainbow???)...  I'm not attacking, I just thought it was funny to hear someone say they don't care if he's "multi-colored." 

As far as McCain - he's out of his league.  The things we face and our children face need to be addressed by someone more in our age group.  As far as Palin, well she should be taking care of her family first.  She's a mother.  I am a mother first, a wife, then an MT. ....  get my drift?  I love my country, but I love my children more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  These are all my opinions and thoughts...

The poster didn't make one reference to you personally in his/her post.  All they did was express their opinion about the current administration without any personal references to you whatsoever.

Why are you so angry and hateful?

IMHO, You owe that poster an apology.

I know it's hard for you, but try to pay attention.  Sheesh!

It would be so nice if you weren't here. SM

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Posted By: Brunson on 2005-09-03,
In Reply to: They will never stop. Look at the post below where Brunson hopes that somebody is *hounded* off - Libby

Fox and of course had the 'ole Fox spin put on it, riling up once again the unstable.