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Do you work in the Kool Aid Factory?

Posted By: MeiJa on 2009-01-19
In Reply to: big flippin deal - Ditzel

Or just distribute its products?


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My oldest grandparents would go down to the factory and they would draw a lottery for who worked that day. Between the two of them they said most days one was able to stay and work, so they actually felt like they had it made. They did not have indoor plumbing and a dirt floor in a house they built themselves. Later, when they were older, they always had money because they never spent what they earned, not because they earned a lot.
My father worked in a factory

for 30 years at GM.  He was a salvage worker so he wasn't one of those guys who sat on his butt all day long making a ridiculous amount of money.  My dad retired in his 60s because his health didn't allow him to continue working or he would have.  I know how unions work and how they "protect" the employees.  I've also seen the proven statistics about how non-union states are more production and have higher job growth and as far as protecting your job.....no ones job is protected especially nowadays.  People are getting fired left and right so where is the protection.  What good was that auto bailout when all that money pretty much went to pay off the unions.  Unions are nothing but democratic pushed BS. 


Here is a tad bit on unions:


 


The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and industries they control. The essential goal of the unions is to compel the payment of higher wages for the performance of less work and less productive work. Unions are notorious for their hostility to labor saving machinery and to any form of competition among workers, for featherbedding practices, indeed, for “making work” by deliberately and arbitrarily increasing the number of workers required to accomplish a given task and sometimes even by compelling the disassembly or destruction of products already produced.


It should be no wonder that the percentage of the labor force controlled by unions tends progressively to decline. Where the unions hold sway, companies cannot compete. Their market share falls and they ultimately go bankrupt. The only way that unions can maintain any given share of the labor force is by finding new victims to replace the ones they have sucked dry. The finding of new victims, by means of new government intervention is the unstated agenda of  Mr. Stern, Ms. Milkman, and The New York Times.


The actual effects of labor unions are arbitrary inequalities in wage rates, mass unemployment, and substantially lower real wages for the average worker. Labor unions are aptly described as a leading vehicle of what von Mises called “destructionism.”


Whenever a union succeeds in obtaining above market wage rates for its members, it also reduces  the number of workers who can be employed in its field. This is because of the operation of one of the best established principles of economics: Namely, the higher the price of anything, including the wage of any kind of labor, the smaller is the quantity demanded of that good or labor service.


Thus, workers who could have been employed in the lines controlled by labor unions are instead displaced and forced to seek work elsewhere. The added competition of these workers in other lines then serves either to depress wage rates in those other lines, thereby resulting in an arbitrary, union-imposed inequality in wage rates, or, if those other lines are also unionized or are forced to pay union wages in order to avoid becoming unionized (which is often the case), to cause still other workers to be displaced. It should be clear that to the extent that the effect of union activity is to depress wage rates in other fields, the union slogan “Live Better, Work Union” turns out to mean “Live Better by Forcing Other Workers to Live Worse.”


If wage rates in all lines of work are forced above the free-market level either because labor unions are able to impose their wage scales everywhere, or because upward union pressure on wage rates is joined by minimum-wage legislation, the effect is mass unemployment. In this case, there is simply no branch of the economic system that is allowed to pay wage rates low enough to make possible the absorption of workers displaced from elsewhere by the imposition of union wages. The result is the kind of situation presently existing in France and Germany, where unemployment is in excess of ten percent. And, of course, the cost of supporting the masses of unemployed falls mainly on the workers who manage to keep their jobs. Here higher taxes are their reward for “working union.”


 


For the full article:  http://mises.org/story/1861


Oh, except for Bosnia, Somalia, and the empty aspirin factory.
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how about kool-aid?
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Kool-Aid
You do realize Kool-Aid was a term started by the Pubs to laugh at you?  Why are you using our lines?  Get your own!
kool aid
This phrase seems to mean making a horribly bad decision and doing the decision. Those poor people at Jonestown were deceived into suicide by an evil man.
Does Kool-Aid
come in chianti flavor?
tastes like.....Kool-Aid
Big gulp, come on..it tastes almost as good as the republican Kool-Aid that you'all have been drinking for years..here, I can even flavor it if you want..some Sweet and Lo and it tastes just like republican Kool-Aid..you know the stuff that makes your mind go all blank and then think only conservative hurtful to America ways.
drink the kool aid
Thank you for your post!  They drink the Kool-Aid, dont ya know?  They are brain washed.  To come up with an independent idea would be something they could not do.. As much as I look on neocons with distain I actually pity them. What a narrow look on life they have..so sad..
Bush Kool-Aid.nm
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Just don't drink the Kool Aid...sm
I don't want ice cream either.....lactose intolerant, don't ya know.
I see the Kool Aid is working. nm

Soon, Kool-Aid may be all you can afford.
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Can I offer you some Kool-Aid?
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Oh brother - get off the kool-aid

This is even weirder than the OP message.


Where's that icon of someone throwing up!


Whether we drank the kool-aid or not........sm
we still have to put up with this lame excuse for an administration. Granted, that is the case regardless of the party in office, but what we are up against is a pretty dismal prospect. It's gonna be a long 4 years.
Okay,kool-aid drinker......
I suppose you're gonna tell me giving free birth control and condoms will create jobs too? You don't need the government to create your jobs; well, maybe you believe we do, but that is not what this country is all about. Government spending money has NEVER helped us before; you suddenly think that will change anything?

This is a pork barrel spending plan............this is no stimulus plan.....

Please stop repeating Obama's words. Think for yourself.

Just because O grins sarcastically and says the words, doesn't mean a thing positive except he has white teeth.......geeeze!

MORE GOVERNMENT = MORE TAXES = MORE SOCIAL PROGRAM = MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL = MORE DEBT = NOTHING GOOD FOR THE WORKING CLASS or even the idiots who don't know they've been had!
Whose been drinking the kool-aid now?
Whoever told you Democrats do not believe in the same things you listed above as the so called right-wing "true patriots?"

The people perpetrating these misconceptions are the traitors.

People can be Democrats or Republicans and ...gasp...even independents and still be patriots.

We can agree or disagree - THAT is what this country was founded on and THAT is what makes us great.
"Cyanide in the kool-aid?"....sm
as in political genocide?  Hmmm.....now who does that remind me of......
Kool-aid drinkers. nm
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Obviously..keep drinking the kool-aid, BB.

I'd like to know what kool-aid she was drinking!!
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Drink some more Kool-Aid!!

Freeze...step away from the Kool-Aid. nm
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Yes, God deliver us from the evil Kool-Aid

Wow, you've really drank the kool-aid
I say that because you honestly don't think there's a terror threat in the world. You seem to think that everything that happens in the world is a scheme concocted by some shadow government. You can't deal with the reality that there are evil people in the world who actually want to hurt people. Well, you do believe that, but you think it's your own government. While I do believe there is some of element of corruption in all governments I do not believe my government is generating terror threats. The terror threat did not come from with the U.S. this time. It came from Great Brittain. It has also happened in Spain and other non-U.S.-run governments. I'm sorry you are so deluded by conspiracy theories that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
I'll pass on the kool-aid (nm)
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kool-aid drinkers? Obama did a lot more than
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They are drinking that Kool Aid that suspends...
reality and keeps them from understanding anything bigger than hope and change, can't see the forest for the trees. It may be nice to sit back and watch the debacle that is sure to come once O is the new dicta...sorry, president. We will have the last laugh; too bad the country is going to suffer even more before any one of them wises up.
Hmmm...Kool-Aid or lemons?

We will continue drinking Kool-Aid, and you can continue sucking on lemons.  Who do you think will be happier?  By the way, sucking lemons makes you a sourpuss!



Boy, talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.
Israel would not even exist were it not for western powers high-jack of historical Palestine dating back thousands of years. They have been sustained by US tax dollars from the get go and absent that, they would be consumed by all the hatred they and their accomplices have generated over the past 60 years with their neighbors, since nobody on the face of the earth other than the imperial global bully would think of propping up its barbarism.

You can quote your Holy book all you want and they will quote theirs. Neither side will score any semblance of lasting peace in that futile exercise, especially since they originated from the same pooled blood of the Semitic tribes, and besides, this is not 1000 BC. No amount of preaching is going to make a dent in this disaster.

The only squatters in Palestine these days are the greedy settlers who cannot be satisfied with their own real estate agreed upon in Peace Accord, but then again history shows us that the Zionists could not keep their own word if their lives depended on it. They are now continuing their land grab within the shrunken borders of the West Bank, with their most violent factions being found in Hebron, where they pillage and murder with impunity. I've got video, if you are interested.

God was taken WAY out of this equation in 1948.

If you doubt my word, just let me know and I will post a link to a 9+-minute raw video out of Gaza showing the aftermath of one of Israeli's air raids on an open market full of families and not a militant in sight. Featured there are women, children, teens and elders writhing in piles of human carnage on a field piled high with human body parts, some remains no bigger than a 3rd-grader's back pack. But a word of caution, the video is not for the faint at heart. Do not view if you have just recently eaten and NEVER play it in the presence of children. Better still, Google it yourself..."Gaza Massacre market" and select the third hit from Sabbah TV, then get back to me and show me where God is in that clip.
some of us only saw a mob of slackeyed kool aid drinkers at that
the vast majority of them, that is.
These guys don't drink Kool-Aid.
Here ya go. Just a few examples for you to mull over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAieKGwQp-s
In the flesh interview with Dr. Larry Hunter, influential conservative economist, talks about why he endorses Obama. Interview starts @ 1:25 into the clip.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-01-08-obama-economy_N.htm
Conservative economist Martin Feldstein agrees that "reviving the economy requires a major fiscal stimulus from tax cuts and increased government spending."

For now, most conservative Republicans who could try to block the new Democratic president's plan are willing to boost red ink. Armed with an electoral mandate and faced with a mammoth recession, Obama is being given a wide berth by the GOP. "We need to govern," says Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. "These issues are so huge and are going to have such a devastating impact on our nation if they're not aggressively and boldly addressed, that we can't afford for this just to be a party-line event."

... but even conservative economists agree a huge stimulus package with a variety of spending initiatives is needed. "I have just two words: big and everything," says Martin Regalia, VP, Economic and Tax Policy and chief economist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49U3DC20081031
The endorsement from the Economist (a virtual bastion of conservatives) raised a few eyebrows.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx
This kind of support is at least as significant as that of conservative economists.

Me too - I told her don't forget the kool-aid
We need a good sense of humor to get through the next four years.
Pretty expensive kool aid, isn't it? sm
He is telling Congress that if they don't pass this $900B+ package that we may never dig our way out of this hole we are in. I highly doubt that, but I wonder if so much damage has alraedy been done that we won't see an end in our lifetime.

Not that it amounts to a hill of beans at this point, but I'm sure glad I didn't vote for him.
Put down the Kool Aid...now drink you O juice...
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Sorry, but Kool-Aid works both ways.
You can drink Republican Kool-Aid or Democratic Kool-Aid, it just depends on who is serving it.
Using the phrase "drinking Kool-Aid"
On November 18, 1978, 909 inhabitants of Jonestown, 276 of them children, died of apparent cyanide poisoning, mostly in and around a pavilion. This resulted in the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the September 11, 2001 attacks. Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (often misidentified as Kool-Aid) along with a sedative.

Out of respect for the nearly 1000 innocent Christians who tragically died in Jonestown, I would like to ask the posters of this forum to find another phrase to use other than "drinking Kool-Aid" to describe a person's political beliefs. It is insulting and disrespectful to the memory of those that died in Jonestown to use this expression so flippantly.

JMHO
Wow -- talk about someone having drunk the Kool-Aid. nm
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Your Kool Aid is tainted....drink something healthy!..nm
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Drink another cup full of Kool-aid...sheesh. nm
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and kool-aid is the problem.........Obama koolaid
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Stop drinking the toxic Kool-Aid and do some
instead of parroting the partisan talking heads who are simply attempting to play politics with history.

The majority of toxic loans were made by financial institutions that were not subject to existing regulations thanks in large part to Phil Gramm. Btw, no one forced anyone to do anything. No one forced the banks to give loans to individuals who could not afford them and no one forced those individuals to attempt to purchase a home without the means to pay for.



Is that cherry or grape Kool Aid yer drinking?
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Thanks, Americans who are finally waking up from the Bush kool-aid














Apathy Conquered, Thanks To Sheehan


Cindy Sheehan will go down in history as the woman who, in a determined yet soft-spoken, dignified manner, stoked the fires of debate and made them hotter.
Uneasiness often results in mere apathy.
But to bring similar factions together to speak with one voice requires an icon to lead, and Sheehan has become that
With both sides of the Iraq issue now embroiled in debate, the United States cannot help but benefit, for overall, it is the people who are taking sides and ordering their political employees to act, not the other way around.
For too long, Americans have withered into complacency, which is a breeding ground for imperialism.
They now realize that one person can make a difference.
They are speaking on the sidewalks; they are speaking in coffeehouses. They are discussing politics in their homes.
They are identifying problems that, prior to the bold and courageous actions of Cindy Sheehan, they felt they could not change.
They now know differently.
They want their President, their Congressmen, and their Senators to come clean.
They want to know why gasoline prices continue to skyrocket.
They want to know why President Bush lied about going to war with Iraq.
They want to know why the Federal government continues to eat away at the dignity of the Constitution.
They want to know why the environment is being shortchanged.
They want to know why lawmakers are spending the Social Security trust fund.
They want to know why the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer.
They are tired of being lied to.
They know, thanks to Cindy Sheehan, that the time has come for America to get back on track and for light to again shine on the so-called American dream.
Now that more than 60 percent of the American people want an end to the war in Iraq, what will our leaders in Washington do? Abide by the will of their employers or continue to hawk our rights to their own special interests?
That is where we are.
Where we go depends upon you.


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Nope, some are definitely rapid obama kool aid drinkers...sm
Try letting someone else have an opinion, for a change.
Nope - who's been pouring the Kool--Aid for the past 8 years?

Better to be right than look stoopid. If you check other posts, you will REMEMBER why the pub faithful were accused of drinking the Kool-Aid.......


Yeah, Bush makes that good Kool-Aid too! LMAO..nm
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Obamaniacs - They're coming for your kool-aid - article enclosed
This says it all (well not all but most)

http://stoosviews.blogivists.com/2008/10/30/obamaniacs-and-the-cult-of-obama-they-are-coming-for-your-kool-aid/


Riiiight. No fraud here, folks. wink-wink. Just get on the bus and drink your Kool-Aid,
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sorry, kool-aid...or daily kos-drinkers...or daily kooks....nm
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