Does the calculator also factor in lies!

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• So which is it, tax breaks under 250, under 200, or under 150, hmmm??? - sm
  • Here is the Obama vs McCain/Bush tax calculator sm - Mrs. M
    • Obama said he was going to let Bush's tax cuts expire.... - sam
    • Makes no difference...I am NOT voting for Obamarama. nm - MT and worn out
      • That wealthy, huh? - Stardust
        • Are you that needy that you want... - sam
    • Means nothing if they do not keep their word!!! - nm
      • That's all you've got in response to that fabulous tax break of Obama's for MOST OF US? nm - Mrs. M
        • fabulous? When he is taking away a better one? - sam
        • Geesh, did you even watch the videos, what fabulous tax break, for who?? - nm
          • Did you even look at the calculator. It says it all? Educate yourself. nm - Mrs. M
            • Calculator does NOT take into consideration... - sam
              • You have it wrong nawnaw. That is including Bush cuts. nm - Mrs. M
                • Does the calculator also factor in lies! - nm
                • Where is that stated, and what does nawnaw mean?? - sam
  • Thought this was a good one.... - onlyinamerica

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This is great! 

http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

in my voting choice.  Progressives can understand human fraility.  As we all know, in this sexy-sexy business of medical transcription, one can face some rompin' stompin, fierce temptations.  John Edwards went way past the mark with the baby and the coverup and all.  Look at the man who replaced Elliott Spitzer.  He 'fessed up right away and no one ever speaks of it anymore.

Wow, if my in-laws (in their 80s) knew that they were looked upon like that, I'd get a black eye (and deserve it) Incidentally, they could do it, too. They travel abroad, work out, all that stuff.

Maybe we should get a little sampling of how many fossilized 70YOs there are out there. I'm embarrassed for you.

It also seems to me that anyone who could endure the worst imaginable torture for 5 years must be made of something. 

Is that the best ya got?

You know, Sam, I don't know if Obama is trustworthy or not.  I don't know him and I don't know John McCain.  I think we would all do well to keep an eye on the direction of our country.  I really, really thought McCain would end up in the White House but with the landslide electorate vote I don't see any way that could possibly happen now.  Maybe it would be a good idea to get to work on doing away with the electorate.  The popular vote should be enough.  It appears to me that elections are decided really just by a few states.

Sooooooo I'm not really sure that we have time to worry about whether we trust the new president or not.  I don't trust any politicians but the cards have been dealt and there's plenty we all need to do.

It's funny how Obama can ramble on and on and on about all the Americans out of jobs; however, he refuses to enforce the E-Verify bill already in place to make sure NO illegals continue to take their jobs, which they are.   He couldn't give a rats butt about those jobs.  The proof is in his lack of doing anything about the illegal invasion in this country.  He's very good at using all his fear tactics with all his big adjectives and descriptives out the ying yang, but he hasn't done ONE SINGLE THING to stop American employers from giving illegals American citizens' jobs. 

He's just wanting that stimulus package passed so bad, he'll continue to get on TV and promote more fear....................

And for those posters who said he has taken ALL THE PORK OUT DAYS AGO, get in the real world, will ya?  He JUST said on his little announcement that there is PORK that needs to be taken out STILL.     All I hear now is blah, blah, blah, blah.................

He can sign 5 executive orders in his first 3 days of office but he can't enforce E-Verify!  That big fat smile doesn't make me melt and it doesn't fool me either.  He ain't got what it takes.

Now all you O lovers can flame away........... then tell me why he can't enforce E-Verify!  It's a law ya know!!! You'll probably have to look it up first. 

Remember this from back in June???  There were several more after this one, also, requesting libs stick to libs board and cons stick to cons board.  What part don't you understand? 

You surely are an idiot and you lie.  Stay off the board and slink back to your pack of liars. 

How about we suggest a no-lying board.  Oh yes, there is one already.  It's called the liberal board.

This page is for the use of Conservatives. Please do not bash their posts. There are other boards

Posted By: Administrator (sm) on 2005-06-29,

where you can post your views.  For example, if you are Liberal, post on the Liberals board, etc. 

Thank you,

Administrator

I've never seen gt post on the CON board, have you?

The only folks on the CON board who were noted to be acting like kids/teenagers were the CONS. 

Truth is welcomed here.  Please take any untruths back to the CON board or better yet, keep them yourself.  It's only fair and right, correct?

10. “I have been very candid about my past.”

9. “I’m a uniter not a divider.”

8. “My plan unlocks the door to the middle class of millions of hard-working Americans.”

7. “This allows us to explore the promise and potential of stem cell research.”

6. “We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th.”

5. “[We are] taking every possible step to protect our country from danger.”

4. “I first got to know Ken [Lay in 1994].”

3. “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” And, “[Saddam Hussein is] a threat because he is dealing with AL Qaeda.”

2. “We found the weapons of mass destruction.”

1. “It’s time to restore honor and dignity to the White House.”

This is a great post.  I agree with gourdpainter.  A lot of people ask me why I am not voting for McCain and I tell them because he lies.  People always say to me that all politicians lie.  I then inform them that Obama is different than most politicians and he isn't a liar.  They laugh but when I ask them to name something he has lied about, they can't think of anything.  Remember in the debate when McCain said Obama was seeking a $3 million earmark for an overhead projector?  That wasn't just any overhead projector - it was for the Adler Planetarium.  Imagine all the education children receive from that planetarium too.  It amazes me when some of you try to make Obama out to be so sinister.

Do you believe evrything they put in your mouth?

...and have you noticed how she's parsing her words ala Bill Clinton?  Depends on the meanings of 'used,' 'would be used,' 'may be used,' 'has not been used' are. 

Typical politician prevarication.  They never expect to be caught and when they are they backpedal to beat the band.  Does she really think we're stupid enough to believe she was briefed on waterboarding as an example of a practice we would not be using?  Would she like us to believe she was so stupid she did not understand the importance of what she was shown?  Either way, not a ringing endorsement of Ms. Pelosi.  God knows the power mad creature has made few friends in either party over the years.  Wonder of her party will use this as a way to disgrace her and get the reins out of her hands.  Can't wait to see how this plays out. 

but this one is actually funny!

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html

I was able to get the link to work.  You were not.  So something is wrong with me. 

So typical.

What a huge difference it is!

That between OBSESSION and normal ordinary use.  Tee-hee!!!!

McCain created the DoNotCall list:

• Lie 8/17/08: "2003 – McCain led in creating the FTC’s ‘Do-Not-Call’ telemarketing registry"
  
• Truth: FTC Chairman Tim Muris announced in October 2001 that the FTC was going to create the Do Not Call list

McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act:

• Lie 8/17/08: "2003 - McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act to regulate the sending of unsolicited commercial e-mail (”spam”) 
  
• Truth: According to the Library of Congress, three Republicans and four Democratic senators introduced the CAN-SPAM bill in 2003. John McCain was not one of them.

Obama would increase capital gains taxes on 100 million Americans

• Lie 4/20/08: "Senator Obama says that he doesn’t want to raise taxes on anybody over — making over $200,000 a year, yet he wants to nearly double the capital gains tax. Nearly double it, which 100 million Americans have investments in — mutual funds, 401(k)s — policemen, firemen, nurses. He wants to increase their taxes."
  
• Truth: "Investments contained in 401-K's (Or in the case of 'policemen, firemen' usually a 403-B), pensions, IRAs, tax deferred variable annuities, and similar retirement vehicles aren't subject to capital gains tax -- they're not taxed at all. Changing the capital gains tax rate will have zero effect on them. Withdrawals from tax deferred accounts by retirees are generally taxed at whatever the income tax rate is for that person at the time of withdrawal (Which, incidentally, is usually a heck of a lot more than the current long term capital gains tax rate, yet another way to rip off the middle class)." 

By LARRY ROHTER

updated 9:52 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept. 10, 2008

DAYTON, Ohio - Escalating its efforts to portray Senator Barack Obama as a candidate whose values fall outside the mainstream, the campaign of Senator John McCain on Tuesday unveiled a new television advertisement claiming that Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, favors “comprehensive sex education” for kindergarten students.

“Learning about sex before learning to read?” the narrator asks in the 30-second advertisement, which the campaign says will be shown in battleground states and on national cable. The commercial also asserts that a sex-education bill introduced in Illinois, which Mr. Obama did not sponsor and which never became law, is his “one accomplishment” in the field of education.

Both sets of accusations, however, seriously distort the record.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26649779/

can be verified.  People who want to know the truth should do their own research and not just believe what some people on this board would like them to believe. 

I come (used to come) to this board to hear about the candidates.  Instead all I'm reading lately is posters attacking others for posting their viewpoints.  Someone posts something about Obama and the O supporters attack them "lies" they call them.  They don't defend Obama but instead insult and attack the poster.  Then they come out and say "oh poor me, you just hate Obama, your so insulting" while at the same time calling them every name in the book.  What I'm hearing is the republicans are trying to shed some light on what Obama is but some of the democrats don't want to hear it and already exclaim that Obama has won.  They are condescending towards anyone who has a different viewpoint than theirs.  They won't read anything that has negative things to say about Obama and they won't read anything that has anything positive to say about McCain.  It's just hate-filled spew that comes out.  You'll cite polls if they favor Obama, and if they favor McCain you ignore them.  You won't even admit that the race is too close to call.  In your minds Obama has already won the election.  You'll support cheating if it favors Obama and condemn it if it favors McCain.  You'd rather live your lives having government regulate your lives, tell you what you can and cannot do, and take all your money to give a check to the people who are able to work but won't because why should they since they are receiving a check from government, while you are being told its your patriotic duty to give to these poor fellow Americans.  You'd rather have an inexperienced radical person running the country than someone who has experience and has shown by his voting record that he fights for the American people.  Yet not giving any reason (being older is not a reason).  I have not yet read any posts that are positive reasons for Obama being president, just hate-filled garbage against Palin.  Also makes me wonder why people are trying to keep Biden out of the spotlight.  Makes me want to find out more about what he's done in the past.

So I have decided to give the board a rest for awhile and will be back to vist after the election is over.  I'm no longer getting any valuable information here.  We have not had an election yet.  The polls are too close to call and even then you can't rely on the polls to give you accurate information (after all these polls are incuding all the dead people, pets, Santa Claus, Mary Poppins, Rama Dama Ding Dong, and all the other fictitious people, not to mention the people who registered 13 and 14 times or more as a democrat) in their polls.  I remember back in 2000 everyone was claiming Gore had won the election and it was very very close and look what happened.  He lost.

I will also continue to listen to all stations, and read all articles so I can at least get a fair and balance opinion of what is going on. 

So have at it y'all.  You seem to love attacking people for no reason and when I read these posts I can really feel the negativity and hatred oozing.  So maybe I'll just stick to the Gab board - I need some more positive vibes. 

P.S. - Just one more note.  Whoever wins will win, and whether it is democrat or republican we will deal with it.  When a democrat has won in the past there were no riots, republicans continued to try to work with the democrats, but we all know what happened the last two times a republican won.  As for the threats of "if Obama doesn't win there's going to be rioting in the streets".  Well if that does happen that goes to show you how many biggots wanted him in just because he's black - all the things they claim don't matter will come out.