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Credibility Factor

Posted By: Mr. Man on 2008-08-30
In Reply to: The point remains...she might as well be running for president...McCain is...sm - ...

Wow, if my in-laws (in their 80s) knew that they were looked upon like that, I'd get a black eye (and deserve it) Incidentally, they could do it, too. They travel abroad, work out, all that stuff.


Maybe we should get a little sampling of how many fossilized 70YOs there are out there. I'm embarrassed for you.


It also seems to me that anyone who could endure the worst imaginable torture for 5 years must be made of something. 


Is that the best ya got?




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actually, it is not a factor

in my voting choice.  Progressives can understand human fraility.  As we all know, in this sexy-sexy business of medical transcription, one can face some rompin' stompin, fierce temptations.  John Edwards went way past the mark with the baby and the coverup and all.  Look at the man who replaced Elliott Spitzer.  He 'fessed up right away and no one ever speaks of it anymore.


 


Because the rumor factor has taken this to mean
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Here is where that comes from......fear factor
Brad Sherman is right....sorry bunch of cowardly people we put in there who brown-nose out of nothing more than fear that they feed on with each other. Nothing written in cement.....just the fear factor!

http://revolutionarypolitics.com/
actually he says that would not be a qualifying factor -
I've never imposed a litmus test on Supreme Court nominees
Q: Could you ever nominate someone to the Supreme Court who disagrees with you on Roe v. Wade?
McCAIN: I would never, and have never in all the years I've been there, imposed a litmus test on any nominee to the Court. That's not appropriate to do.

Q: But you don't want Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

McCAIN: I thought it was a bad decision. I think that decision should rest in the hands of the states. I'm a federalist. And I believe strongly that we should have nominees to the Supreme Court based on their qualifications rather than any litmus test. They should be judged on their qualifications. I will find the best people in America who have a history of strict adherence to the Constitution. And not legislating from the bench.

Q: Even if it was someone who had a history of being for abortion rights?

McCAIN: I would consider anyone on their qualifications. Someone who has supported Roe v. Wade, that would be part of those qualifications. But I certainly would not impose any litmus test.

Source: 2008 third presidential debate against Barack Obama Oct 15, 2008
Trust factor

You know, Sam, I don't know if Obama is trustworthy or not.  I don't know him and I don't know John McCain.  I think we would all do well to keep an eye on the direction of our country.  I really, really thought McCain would end up in the White House but with the landslide electorate vote I don't see any way that could possibly happen now.  Maybe it would be a good idea to get to work on doing away with the electorate.  The popular vote should be enough.  It appears to me that elections are decided really just by a few states.


Sooooooo I'm not really sure that we have time to worry about whether we trust the new president or not.  I don't trust any politicians but the cards have been dealt and there's plenty we all need to do.


Yep, the "if its true" factor.

Our next President WILL be a huge factor
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I saw clips of that on The O'Reilly Factor.
I was cracking up.  "Your name is Joy.  You're supposed to be joyful."  LOL!  If she wants to be on a TV show like that, she really does need to lighten up and at least add to the conversation instead of just acting like she has a severe case of PMS.
Does the calculator also factor in lies!

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The running mate will be an important factor
I think McCain really needs a good running mate. I really liked Tancreda when he was running. A lot of my viewpoints aligned with his. I also like Ron Paul or Colin Powell (not sure if Powell is Dem or Rep), so if he picks a decent running mate who is "on the ball" about foreign and domestic issues (I think McCain is going to need all the help he can get) he may stand a good chance of winning, otherwise it's going to be hard to know who they will choose to be president.
The health care costs are the factor that
takes UAW hourly wages from $28 to $73, along with their other benefits, pension, matching funds and the like. The national insurance coverage was what I was referring when talking how the new administration may or may not impact this situation. The nonunion figures I gave are for the US Toyota workers. I don't think they can take advantage of the national insurance coverage the global Toyota workers have, but I could be mistaken. The more we talk about this, the more interesting it becomes. I wish I knew where to go to get reliable information on this.
Oh I sorry, yeah, sure the people are the deciding factor
Yeah, right people really are the ones who decide who the president will be. Yeah, right, okay.
Obama could produce FEAR FACTOR!

It's funny how Obama can ramble on and on and on about all the Americans out of jobs; however, he refuses to enforce the E-Verify bill already in place to make sure NO illegals continue to take their jobs, which they are.   He couldn't give a rats butt about those jobs.  The proof is in his lack of doing anything about the illegal invasion in this country.  He's very good at using all his fear tactics with all his big adjectives and descriptives out the ying yang, but he hasn't done ONE SINGLE THING to stop American employers from giving illegals American citizens' jobs. 


He's just wanting that stimulus package passed so bad, he'll continue to get on TV and promote more fear....................


And for those posters who said he has taken ALL THE PORK OUT DAYS AGO, get in the real world, will ya?  He JUST said on his little announcement that there is PORK that needs to be taken out STILL.     All I hear now is blah, blah, blah, blah.................


He can sign 5 executive orders in his first 3 days of office but he can't enforce E-Verify!  That big fat smile doesn't make me melt and it doesn't fool me either.  He ain't got what it takes.


Now all you O lovers can flame away........... then tell me why he can't enforce E-Verify!  It's a law ya know!!! You'll probably have to look it up first. 


 


If the profit factor (insurance companies)...
...is removed, we will save a TON of money.
Heard the same blather from the Oreilly rumor factor
the NY Times, Rasmussen, Gallup, etc., all in response to his dive in the ratings, taking third place behind KO and RM on MSNBC and AC on CNN. "They MUST be rigged," he blustered in protest. You don't like polls? Fine. Check out the electoral map.
http://election.princeton.edu/electoral-college-map/
The 'it' factor: Let's give Obama a change, at least...
the last 8 years were not good years.
Isn't charisma and attractiveness in all fields of life a major component for success? Besides all other qualifications?
Credibility

Credibility can be judged from what someone wrote on the chat board.  MT wrote that she will join the civilian corp in Iraq.  Obviously, she was not credible in that comment.  Now there is commentary that it doesn't matter, or that she didn't lie.  Gawd, it is so much like this administration it's laughable, but somehow it makes me feel like crying instead of laughing.  You say it won't matter in 100 years.  Well, it might.  The collective lies that got us into this war may matter to the relatives still alive of those killed in Iraq after 100 years.  So in a very small but important way it does matter.  It is symbolic of the web of lies bringing this whole country down. 


By the way the civilian corps would include aid workers, truck drivers, engineers, etc.   This was most certainly not a rhetorical question, yet another lie on the part of one of the posters worried about manners. 


No credibility again (sm)

And this from www.rightsidenews.com


 


Speaking of credibility...
You promised to grace us with your absence before, yet your posts are multiplying like bunnies all over this board.  So much for YOUR credibility.
bush has no credibility
I believe and trust Chavez, any day..even Putin any day..Bush has no credibility anymore..actually, in my eyes, he never had credibility..I warned republican friends not to vote for him cause he would destroy America and the world and Roe vs Wade would be overturned..my insights are coming true..and actually the Americans who voted for Bush have no one to blame but themselves, unfortunately, ALL of us have to suffer the consequences..IMHO, I think Bush should stand trial for not heeding the warning given to him about terrorists flying planes into high buildings (given to him in 08/2001), for waging a war on LIES which he KNEW they were lies and on Katrina, which he was warned about..This guy is a fool and we are all paying the price for having a fool in the White House..
goldberg has no credibility
I know him through his words..Do you know him personally?  When a person puts his thoughts and ideas out there, he should expect criticism or praise.  I have chosen to criticize.  Hurt my credibility?  I believe through his words HE no longer has credibility.  However, for the radical right wingers, he is, I would assume, right up there with Limbaugh, Coulter, Carlson, people you believe even if they are acting like fools and lying through their teeth.  Something we who did not drink the Kool-Aid can see. 
Well, he might have more credibility with the little people if he WOULD...
stand on a cardboard box. ANd it would be more in keeping with how he keeps saying he would like to be thought of.
He is not restoring credibility to the US
He's selling us out!!!!!!!

You need to get a grip and stop watching MSLSD.
They lost any credibility with me
when NOW and other 'institutional' feminists refused to condemn Bill Clinton's anti-female shenanigans.  Any feminists think he should not be having sex with interns and/or forcing himself on female campaign workers?  Anybody?  Hello?   cricket..cricket......cricket...cricket
I agree, corrected myself in a post below. I shouldn't have added that part as a factor nm
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You have no credibility. I doubt the veracity of everything you say.
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Well, "dems", you have a big credibility deficit
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I agree. She will do fine and has MORE credibility
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What a joke. You no longer have any credibility. nm
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I think he has earned a bit more respect and credibility
so sue me.
It's called credibility of sources...

fact checking, research.....get the idea yet?  Again, rumors started by a person who won't even identify themself is not fact the last time I checked.


Oh, and by the way, why is it okay for this person to stay anonymous and not okay for the source of the infamous tape you like to talk about so much?


Not an ounce of credibility in sight.
you can keep on reinforcing the negativity and issue dodging that has been the cornerstone of this tanking your candidate, your party and his bankrupt campaign. One this is apparent. The fatal flaw that has marked these strategies is alive and well. You insult voters every single time you throw up this kind of trash and have totally underestimated the intelligent of the American electorate. 57 hours until E-day.
Ok, you brought back credibility to yourself LOL
I'm glad you laughed about my remark. I was waiting to get blasted. :-)

I read the link you provided. Good article. DH reads AOL. I won't read Fox or MSBNC or the others that have an agenda. I think she's a very smart woman and at least she understands the economics we are facing.

I do care about what she says and does in her state. I do hope we see more of her and am sure she has learned a lot because of the campaign. DH & I were saying that when she was running that if McCaina and she lost we would think about moving to Alaska to have her as our governor. However, winter is settling in up there and it's just a bit too cold for us (we would absolutely freeze).

Thanks again for the link - you restored my confidence in you. HA HA


Nope - your the one who lost your credibility
With your attacks on others who do not agree with you. Posting articles from only leftwing nutbag tabloid articles.

And it doesn't matter how many times you vary your name, we all know who you are.
You know, gt, these kind of statements lend you no credibility.
Do you know him personally?   Do you know people he knows?  Are you part of his life?  You do know he is a Democrat, right?   But of course, when Democrats say bad things about other Democrats they are OUT OF THE CLUB, or, in your words, Jerks.  You might try to broad your tunnel vision a little bit. It would make you appear at least partially objective.
Who's to judge credibility? Certainly not you or I on a chat board.
Just seems like a lot of negativism about nothing really.  But whatever.  Not worth worrying about.  In 100 years, who will care.  You waste way too much energy on here.  Get a real hobby.  It will improve your outlook!
Chicken Little/Cry Wolf Bush has no credibility.

He has lied to Americans and to the world so many times that if he actually made a mistake and told the TRUTH, nobody would be able to recognize it.


LOL at *pro-terrorist.*  Is that the *talking point* word of the day that you studied at the table while drinking your daily dose of Kool-Aid?   I'm not pro terrorist by any stretch of the imagination.  I'm also not gullible.  As far as bizarre, I think people who can't think for themselves, see the forest from the trees and continue to defend a known manipulative, deceitful liar until the end, regardless of facts to the contrary, are beyond bizarre.


And as far as J. C. Penney bills, check the date below.  As I said, this is nothing new.  I doubt you need to worry about your credit card bills, though.  Bush only attacks those who disagree with him or catch him in lies.  Ask Valerie Plame.


Pay too much and you could raise the alarm


By BOB KERR
The Providence Journal
28-FEB-06


PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Walter Soehnge is a retired Texas schoolteacher who traveled north with his wife, Deana, saw summer change to fall in Rhode Island and decided this was a place to stay for a while.



So the Soehnges live in Scituate now and Walter sometimes has breakfast at the Gentleman Farmer in Scituate Village, where he has passed the test and become a regular despite an accent that is definitely not local.

And it was there, at his usual table last week, that he told me that he was madder than a panther with kerosene on his tail.

He says things like that. Texas does leave its mark on a man.

What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that everything changed after 9/11 thing.

But not Walter.

We're a product of the '60s, he said. We believe government should be way away from us in that regard.

He was referring to the recent decision by him and his wife to be responsible, to do the kind of thing that just about anyone would say makes good, solid financial sense.

They paid down some debt. The balance on their JCPenney Platinum MasterCard had gotten to an unhealthy level. So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.

And an alarm went off. A red flag went up. The Soehnges' behavior was found questionable.

And all they did was pay down their debt. They didn't call a suspected terrorist on their cell phone. They didn't try to sneak a machine gun through customs.

They just paid a hefty chunk of their credit card balance. And they learned how frighteningly wide the net of suspicion has been cast.

After sending in the check, they checked online to see if their account had been duly credited. They learned that the check had arrived, but the amount available for credit on their account hadn't changed.

So Deana Soehnge called the credit-card company. Then Walter called.

When you mess with my money, I want to know why, he said.

They both learned the same astounding piece of information about the little things that can set the threat sensors to beeping and blinking.

They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.

Walter called television stations, the American Civil Liberties Union and me. And he went on the Internet to see what he could learn. He learned about changes in something called the Bank Privacy Act.

The more I'm on, the scarier it gets, he said. It's scary how easily someone in Homeland Security can get permission to spy.

Eventually, his and his wife's money was freed up. The Soehnges were apparently found not to be promoting global terrorism under the guise of paying a credit-card bill. They never did learn how a large credit card payment can pose a security threat.

But the experience has been a reminder that a small piece of privacy has been surrendered. Walter Soehnge, who says he holds solid, middle-of-the-road American beliefs, worries about rights being lost.

If it can happen to me, it can happen to others, he said.

(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr@projo.com.)



(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.shns.com.)


Chavez lost a lot of credibility with his UN antics...sm
Even in the most democratic circles, which I travel in. He made a mockery, not of Bush, but himself. Anything credible he had to say went out the window with *smells of sulfa.*

I agree with JDH, once I determine a person is a whacko I don't put much stock in what they have to say.
JM credibility on moderate inclusive bipartisan
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There is no credibility in any single part of this story
including at the $800,000 expense claim, since the whole thing is based on a fantasy whichg arises out of a false premise. You may have noticed that the other 2 posts directly below regarding this trash have gone unanswered all day long, and you will not be engaging me in any further beating of this dead, dead horse. The fanatic/broken record comment is all I care to post as the rest of it is simply a huge waste of time and energy. We all know that when the Supreme Court dismisses this tomorrow it will not phase a single solitary fanatic and they will continue their quest to nowhere until they run out of money. Fanatics, every last one of them.
You have lost all credibility with your Bush and America hatred. sm
You have no idea what the former presidents would have done.  Republicans don't shackle themselves to a ditch and ride the wave of fame on the bodies of their dead children. 
Well, this post has brought the credibility, class and dignity of this board to ZERO! NM
LOSERS!
Typical, make a nasty comment and run. You have no credibility with anyone with any brains. nm
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