Egads - the dems have done enough damage
Posted By: me on 2008-09-22
In Reply to: Obama/Biden ticket wins, more dems elected to congress...sm - my take
Look at their voting records - this is not the direction the country needs to go in. We need a real leader. Someone who will not let us down. Someone who cared more about the people that even when he had a chance to leave the pow camp he chose to stay and not leave his fellow soldiers there. We need a fresh face to Washington to give them the good kick in the pants they need (thank you Gov. Palin - know you'll do an excellent job). Obama is not a fresh face to Washington (he has been there for a couple years now), and Joe Biden has been there for I believe over 30 years (not exactly sure of the number of years, but think its over 30 or close to 30) - so where's the new face Obama promised us.
It's time for a change we can trust in. Time for America and Americans to come first. Not more of the same just labeled as democrats giving false hopes. Has anyone noticed that he said he believes 97K is not middle class. It used to be 250K, now I hear 97K. How much farther down is he going to go. Maybe he believes people who make $12K a year are the middle income. This is not a man I can trust. It's too bad too because I had high hopes for him when I voted for him over Hillary. Now he's just another dirtbag in my opinion and will screw the country while he continues to reap in the money from the big corporations like he has been doing all along.
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Egads and I forgot to say
I hate "serpents" translated to snakes. LOL
A lot of damage can be done in
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Bush damage
What you described is only the damage that Americans were lucky enough to have accidentally been discovered, things that were the complete opposite of what he said he was doing. We still don't know what other illegal or immoral things he has done in the last 5 years that just haven't been discovered yet. Plus, he has 3 more years of damage to do. I worry very much for the future of this country. I hope we can all survive it without him getting us all killed. He's a very dangerous man.
Yes indeed. Lot of RNC damage control going on.
How do the Pubs turn Gustav into a political advantage? We already see them shameless working all the angles and considering their options, but let's face it. They need all the help they can get now that Gustav has blow the wind out of the sails of their copy-cat showcase celebrity VP pick. It's just as well. A 48-hour ride on that boat was just about all the excitement JM could stand at one time.
Any political capital the RNC is trying to get out of Gustav is doomed to fail. What's a party to do? The collective sigh of relief they all are breathing over the Bush and Cheney speech cancellations to go put on their compassionate conservative hats and polish up their leadership image is producing wind gusts up to a Category 10. How can they celebrate the debut of their golden girl on a split screen they share with the drowning of New Orleans Part II and hold their collective breaths at the same time and pray those levies don't break again? One would think they would have the sense to postpone the event until all the ruckus dies down, but if they did that, people might actually start expecting the Prez and VP to deliver their speeches again. They can't have that, now can they?
The dems will not be too worried about Bush/Cheney speech cancellations one way or the other. The RNC opening night and the leadership image role down south are equal opportunities for Bush and Cheney to show their true colors and there is no way the media is going to be polite enough not to be reminding us all about the screw ups last time around, no matter how presidential they try to appear. It's a lose/lose situation no matter how you look at it.
True. The damage has been done. sm
Irretrievably so. But there's no going back now. McCain is stuck with her and she and the economy (and his inability to tell the truth, IMO) are dragging him down:
Polls: Obama Way Up, Palin And Economy Dragging McCain Down
By Eric Kleefeld - October 1, 2008, 12:09PM
Two new national polls show Barack Obama expanding his lead over John McCain to a seven-point margin, thanks in large part to two big problems for McCain. The first one is the economy -- and the second is Sarah Palin.
The numbers from Pew: Obama 49%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.5% margin of error. And from Time: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error.
In the Time poll, 65% say their personal economic situation has declined in the last year, and this group is going 59% for Obama. In the Pew poll, Obama is trusted over McCain to improve the economy by 51%-33%.
And here's the bad news for Palin. Time says that McCain is losing women at a faster clip than Palin was able to gain them -- before the two conventions, Obama led among women by ten points, which then narrowed to one point after she was picked. Now he leads by 17 points.
And in Pew, Palin's public image has taken a very serious fall. Three weeks ago, Palin was seen as qualified to be president by a 52%-39% margin. Now that number has been reversed: Only 37% think she's qualified, and 51% say she is not.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_obama_way_up_palin_and_e.php
Palin did further damage to herself by going on but sm
It was her choice. She contacted SNL and asked to go on. McCain made some comment about the vast amount of viewers and I guess they thought it was a great way to reach the public but in this case, you really don't want to reach the public by reminding them how you won't answer questions and how unqualified you are. It was just odd to see her there. She wasn't funny and she didn't do anything to help herself. Weird!
Damage from insurgents is minimal?????
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Sam busy w/damage control this a,m.
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I agree. There certainly is a lot of damage to repair.
Americans are not the only ones who are ready to turn the page and write a new chapter in the post-911 era. I believe the challenges are so complex that they are no longer amenable to an imperialist or isolationist approach.
There is no one nation that can single-handedly defeat terrorism, a stateless, nationless phenomenon, fueled in part by Anti-American sentiment. The very essence of the challenge dictates the need for alliance, cooperation, concerted efforts, mutual respect and multicultural/multinational involvement. We don't get there by waging more wars. In fact, a radical departure from the most recent approaches is in order.
If Bush can come to the table for the sake of the economy (G7), our leadership certainly should come to the table for the sake of security.
What you are seeing below is a weak attempt at damage control 101...
That announcement sucked all the air out of the big speech, everyone is talking about Sarah Palin, not Barack Obama. And the best they can do is take potshots at Alaska and that she was in a beauty pageant...and oh I thought the rampaging moose thing was REALLLYYYYY funneeeee. Obama is not the only one front and center that people are excited about...and if these folks think the PUMA folks are going to fall into line because the DNC tells them to....they have another think coming. Just my opinion of course....
see the bombing and collateral damage post above....nm
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anyone else wondering how much damage Bush can do in the next few months?
This post is an example of the worst kind of damage
This kind of ignorant, self-righteous, utterly uninformed, breathtakingly bigoted and hate-filled pronouncement, void of any depth or evidence of intellectual capacity, is exactly the kind of divisive belief system and world view W created with his "you are either for us or against us" war on terror. Islam is a monotheist religion, just as Christianity is. The kind of politicized Christianity you have expressed is of the sort that was the driving force behind the Crusades...bloody terrorism in its very worst manifestation. Politicized religion in any form has NOTHING to do with God and the brand that you are promoting here is every bit as much of a terrorist act as a suicide bombing. Moslems pray to the same God that Christians pray to and no amount of hateful bigotry you try spread will change that fundamental truth. As long as you hold this kind of hate in your heart, you will always be a very isolated, fringe element of our society. If you are truly a person of faith, pray to God to to fogive you for this blasphemy, to enlighten you and to purge you of the ignorance and hate you harbor.
well, if this is true, I blame Bush, Cheney and all the damage
they have done to this country. The republicans will always go down in history as to blame.
They have had full control and yet still manage to blame everyone else for the problems.
Look around, because Bush has left this country with no other option but for the government to step in. This has been breeding because of his carelessness and ineptitude. He ruled like a king/tyrant in the white house.
This will be on his hands.
About the same damage Clinton did in his final months after the election (NM)
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Sorry but Bush is a crook and nothing you say will change that. He did our country a lot of damage.
just move on from that, you cannot. It's damaged us a whollleee lot and your snide comments will not change that.
Dems took over?
This really confuses me. It's my understanding that the Dems STILL haven't taken over. They need 60 in the Senate in order to prevent a fillibuster, and as I write this, the Republicans (still in control) are threatening to fillibuster the proposed auto maker bailout/loan legislation. Since the Democrats DO NOT have the majority they need, the Republicans may very well do that.
So please explain to me how the Democrats are in control because I keep seeing this and truly don't understand how that is.
Not trying to start an argument or stir anything up. I truly don't "get it." 
I'm not sure that the dems really
like Bill being interviewed a lot. LOL! He is rather obvious that he is only saying Obama because he is following his political party and that he truly doesn't want Obama as president.
Oh well....for whatever reason Bill said what he did.....it is still nice to hear someone admiring both candidates, saying they are both ready to be president, and not cutting down one party or the other. It was a nice change for once.
I have never seen anything like this. Dems really are
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It's been the Dems all along...
Congress is DEMOCRATS you know. The president...Bush now...and O in the future...does not have absolute power! Gah, how hard is that to understand??? But now with a Dem pres and a Dem government...we are all screwed!
That's the dems M.O.
Destroy anyone that gets in their way. I have not found any of the politicans to show they care about the people that make a difference in this country. If anyone steps in, asks questions or tries to get to the truth of the matter their lives are destroyed.
11 dems were (NM)
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11 dems were (NM)
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But the Dems would have you believe..........sm
from the cheering teams in Indiana to the crowds in Ft. Meyerss (some of whom did not get in, despite being very close to the front of the line) that the whole nation is in favor of this, that we are all ready to sink another another trillion in debt.
I wonder how many of the dems have
read it? Oh, it doesn't matter, they are going to vote for it anyway, the king has spoken!
Dems
If it this thing doesn't work (which it won't) the dems better start grabbing theirs...
Where are all the sensible Dems?
They fight and carry on just as much as the pubs. They are like children, too. Don't forget, they put a lot of pork in these bills and then cry when the pubs vote against it.
No matter what you say, neither party is working for the people. It's time to vote them all out.
And you don't think the dems would do the same?
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That's what I like about some Dems...
soooo classy. And you have the nerve to defame rednecks...LOL. ;)
No - because the Dems know very well what
The intelligence committees of Congress (both House and Senate) have full access to all CIA documents. Members of both of those committees know full well that Pelosi stepped in a cow patty when she called the CIA liars, so this outcome was completely predictable.
What makes this whole thing all the more deplorable is that these are the very same people who were self-righteously calling for similar probes regarding the previous administration just a few weeks ago.
Moral: Be careful what you wish for!
We gotta throw these folks out of office starting in 2010 and continuing until EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM IS GONE.
I know this is somewhat irrelavant since the Dems are going to win
in November. I am an Obama supporter but also a political junkie, so for me it's interesting to try to figure out who McCain is going to pick for VP, even if it doesn't matter in the end.
McCain was on SLN cracking jokes about how old he was. I'll give him points for the self-deprecating humor.
Yep, the dems in congress won't do anything
until they have a dem as president. They know if they do something positive, such as helping us with our oil/energy problem, Bush will get the credit and they won't stand for that.
That is the facts people and it is so unbelievably ridiculous that these people who we vote in and pay 6-figure salaries to won't do their job. It's a huge joke and it scares the crap out of me.
Perfect example of why Dems will win and be in the
Republicans thrive on scare tactics - or at least they THINK they're scare tactics.
A lot of dems voted for the war too....
including Kerry and Hillary and untold others...including your VP candidate, Biden. Can't you tell the truth? What about the truth is so scary to you? You can go on line and see the roll call vote. Many, Many D's there. No war can ever be waged without a 2/3 vote of Congress. War is not a "conservative" thing. What a ridiculous lie. Do you ever go research anything or are you afraid lightning will strike you if you stray from Dem talking points??
I cannot and will not lump all Dems together...
however, several of the group who post here post like this. I don't understand it, because it doesn't follow what I thought democrats were all about. I am not a Republican by the way...am an Independent. I don't owe any party my vote...but I have Democrats in my family and they do not speak like this...
But, I could not say most Dems treat people this way. Just some of these do. :)
Since when did Dems ever let facts
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No, you dems just ain't funny.
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Yes....this is going to be the Dems' Enron. nm
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Believe it or not, dems want to cut the pork too! nm
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in-laws are all dems - what to do? nm
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But the media, the dems, and
all these Obama supporters just sweep that under a rug. They continue to point fingers and blame others and yet they will take no responsibility at all for what they did. They will not give McCain credit for his warning. They will not admit that they ignored that warning. I'm tired of the media having their nose up Obama's ars. They call McCain a coward for wanting to postpone the debate when it was McCain who was pushing for the debate before until this and now he wants to be in Washington to help find a solution. He wants to put the country first instead of his own personal campaign. To me...this says a lot about McCain and yet the dems and the media can do nothing but downgrade. How in the world are we to have a fair election when the media is so obviously one-sided?
At this point, I really don't know that any candidate can get us out of this mess. I guess I've just lost hope all around. As for all those so-called plans Barry Obama promised.....he can't do a one of them....not that they would have worked in the first place but now it is impossible for him to even try. So now what, Barry? What else are you going to promise you will do that you can't deliver on?
SSDD for the Dems
Oh, I know all about her. First it was sad to me that voters don't do their homewordk and just believe what literally any politician tells them just because they're R or D. Savage really educates his audience on the San Franfricko "values" and how horribly corrupt they are out there. Take the Bologna case, where the illegal aliens/gang members who killed this poor woman's husband and 2 sons all in one sweep. There's just one example of the sanctuary city thing for ya.
The best way to educate people is to play their own words back for all to hear. That way I make my point and am not accused of being a right-wing hack.
By the same token, I've been literally wailing over Olympia Snow (snot job), Susan Collins, etc...the queen RINOS. They don't belong in the GOP and they need a royal flush. Hagel finally retired, fortunately.
The drivebys are so complicit in this crap, too. If we put out such a horrible product (like a report with only a small portion of the situation, or twisted it completely around), we'd be fired. These people work for us and only answer to their NE lib journalism pals. There are so many facets to this zirconia it's criminal.
Sometimes I think the republicans are dems in slo-mo....sm
and almost as bad. They can't talk, can't stand up for themselves. Let themselves be run over.
I'm disgusted with everybody on capitol hill.
None of them understand the economy anyway. None of them.
The dems try to make her look
stupid, when in fact she is very savvy — as demonstrated by her negotiations with the oil companies, pushing through a gas pipeline, etc. She is a lady of many accomplishments, unlike the Dem’s PRESIDENTIAL candidate, the big O ( as in ZERO).
Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.
Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.
Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation - an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.
Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.
Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.
She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska’s most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska’s communities.
The bottom line is that she is running for VP. Obama is running for president and his own running mate said he didn't have enough experience.
And the O supporters, dems,
and left-wing media don't just repeat what they see and hear? LOL! Oh please. Half of the Obamanation supporters spout exactly what Obama says and only seeing the promise of change.....which I might add....WON'T HAPPEN. Obama can't do anything he promises and if he does.....our country will be totally FUBARed (f*cked up beyond all recognition).
Oh, so this is why the dems are for gay marriages.
ewwww
Not everybody hates him. Just dems who don't
want the real truth.
Dems would not say anything nice about her even if
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yeah, it's okay for dems to be mean
but if pubs are, then they will have blood on their hands.
Oh come on. Dems are smart enough to see through...
those things, AREN'T they? lol.
Like all those dems threatened to do
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