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Sam busy w/damage control this a,m.

Posted By: Just like the party will be this week at RNC. nm on 2008-08-31
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Yes indeed. Lot of RNC damage control going on.

How do the Pubs turn Gustav into a political advantage?  We already see them shameless working all the angles and considering their options, but let's face it.  They need all the help they can get now that Gustav has blow the wind out of the sails of their copy-cat showcase celebrity VP pick.  It's just as well.  A 48-hour ride on that boat was just about all the excitement JM could stand at one time.   


Any political capital the RNC is trying to get out of Gustav is doomed to fail.  What's a party to do?  The collective sigh of relief they all are breathing over the Bush and Cheney speech cancellations to go put on their compassionate conservative hats and polish up their leadership image is producing wind gusts up to a Category 10.  How can they celebrate the debut of their golden girl on a split screen they share with the drowning of New Orleans Part II and hold their collective breaths at the same time and pray those levies don't break again?  One would think they would have the sense to postpone the event until all the ruckus dies down, but if they did that, people might actually start expecting the Prez and VP to deliver their speeches again.  They can't have that, now can they? 


The dems will not be too worried about Bush/Cheney speech cancellations one way or the other.  The RNC opening night and the leadership image role down south are equal opportunities for Bush and Cheney to show their true colors and there is no way the media is going to be polite enough not to be reminding us all about the screw ups last time around, no matter how presidential they try to appear.  It's a lose/lose situation no matter how you look at it.   


What you are seeing below is a weak attempt at damage control 101...

That announcement sucked all the air out of the big speech, everyone is talking about Sarah Palin, not Barack Obama.  And the best they can do is take potshots at Alaska and that she was in a beauty pageant...and oh I thought the rampaging moose thing was REALLLYYYYY funneeeee.  Obama is not the only one front and center that people are excited about...and if these folks think the PUMA folks are going to fall into line because the DNC tells them to....they have another think coming.  Just my opinion of course....


Conservatives are for control over their own children and less control by govt

you want it both ways, it is dem fault with control, and when they had no control
it was their fault as well. yes GB did not get anything done, no deregulation, no war, no shift of power to the corporations, nothing.

so you are saying he was utterly incompetent?
How about if some of us are using birth control to be responsible and control.......sm
the size of our families, as almost every family has to do? And believe me, I tried the "rhythm" method, and I have my beautiful son, Alex, as a response. And I adore him, and thankfully we found ways to afford him, care for him in every way, etc., but some sexual aides and birth control are actually used by Christian couples who have been married for 28 years, gong on 29 in May. sex is also important in a loving marriage, not just to "do whatever feels good." There is nothing shameful in married, committed sex.
Control? If you mean, control of putting our country
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A lot of damage can be done in
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Bush damage
What you described is only the damage that Americans were lucky enough to have accidentally been discovered, things that were the complete opposite of what he said he was doing.  We still don't know what other illegal or immoral things he has done in the last 5 years that just haven't been discovered yet.  Plus, he has 3 more years of damage to do.  I worry very much for the future of this country.  I hope we can all survive it without him getting us all killed.  He's a very dangerous man.
True. The damage has been done. sm
Irretrievably so. But there's no going back now. McCain is stuck with her and she and the economy (and his inability to tell the truth, IMO) are dragging him down:

Polls: Obama Way Up, Palin And Economy Dragging McCain Down
By Eric Kleefeld - October 1, 2008, 12:09PM
Two new national polls show Barack Obama expanding his lead over John McCain to a seven-point margin, thanks in large part to two big problems for McCain. The first one is the economy -- and the second is Sarah Palin.

The numbers from Pew: Obama 49%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.5% margin of error. And from Time: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error.

In the Time poll, 65% say their personal economic situation has declined in the last year, and this group is going 59% for Obama. In the Pew poll, Obama is trusted over McCain to improve the economy by 51%-33%.

And here's the bad news for Palin. Time says that McCain is losing women at a faster clip than Palin was able to gain them -- before the two conventions, Obama led among women by ten points, which then narrowed to one point after she was picked. Now he leads by 17 points.

And in Pew, Palin's public image has taken a very serious fall. Three weeks ago, Palin was seen as qualified to be president by a 52%-39% margin. Now that number has been reversed: Only 37% think she's qualified, and 51% say she is not.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_obama_way_up_palin_and_e.php

Palin did further damage to herself by going on but sm
It was her choice. She contacted SNL and asked to go on. McCain made some comment about the vast amount of viewers and I guess they thought it was a great way to reach the public but in this case, you really don't want to reach the public by reminding them how you won't answer questions and how unqualified you are. It was just odd to see her there. She wasn't funny and she didn't do anything to help herself. Weird!

Damage from insurgents is minimal?????
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Egads - the dems have done enough damage
Look at their voting records - this is not the direction the country needs to go in. We need a real leader. Someone who will not let us down. Someone who cared more about the people that even when he had a chance to leave the pow camp he chose to stay and not leave his fellow soldiers there. We need a fresh face to Washington to give them the good kick in the pants they need (thank you Gov. Palin - know you'll do an excellent job). Obama is not a fresh face to Washington (he has been there for a couple years now), and Joe Biden has been there for I believe over 30 years (not exactly sure of the number of years, but think its over 30 or close to 30) - so where's the new face Obama promised us.

It's time for a change we can trust in. Time for America and Americans to come first. Not more of the same just labeled as democrats giving false hopes. Has anyone noticed that he said he believes 97K is not middle class. It used to be 250K, now I hear 97K. How much farther down is he going to go. Maybe he believes people who make $12K a year are the middle income. This is not a man I can trust. It's too bad too because I had high hopes for him when I voted for him over Hillary. Now he's just another dirtbag in my opinion and will screw the country while he continues to reap in the money from the big corporations like he has been doing all along.
I agree. There certainly is a lot of damage to repair.
Americans are not the only ones who are ready to turn the page and write a new chapter in the post-911 era. I believe the challenges are so complex that they are no longer amenable to an imperialist or isolationist approach.

There is no one nation that can single-handedly defeat terrorism, a stateless, nationless phenomenon, fueled in part by Anti-American sentiment. The very essence of the challenge dictates the need for alliance, cooperation, concerted efforts, mutual respect and multicultural/multinational involvement. We don't get there by waging more wars. In fact, a radical departure from the most recent approaches is in order.

If Bush can come to the table for the sake of the economy (G7), our leadership certainly should come to the table for the sake of security.
see the bombing and collateral damage post above....nm
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anyone else wondering how much damage Bush can do in the next few months?


This post is an example of the worst kind of damage
This kind of ignorant, self-righteous, utterly uninformed, breathtakingly bigoted and hate-filled pronouncement, void of any depth or evidence of intellectual capacity, is exactly the kind of divisive belief system and world view W created with his "you are either for us or against us" war on terror. Islam is a monotheist religion, just as Christianity is. The kind of politicized Christianity you have expressed is of the sort that was the driving force behind the Crusades...bloody terrorism in its very worst manifestation. Politicized religion in any form has NOTHING to do with God and the brand that you are promoting here is every bit as much of a terrorist act as a suicide bombing. Moslems pray to the same God that Christians pray to and no amount of hateful bigotry you try spread will change that fundamental truth. As long as you hold this kind of hate in your heart, you will always be a very isolated, fringe element of our society. If you are truly a person of faith, pray to God to to fogive you for this blasphemy, to enlighten you and to purge you of the ignorance and hate you harbor.
well, if this is true, I blame Bush, Cheney and all the damage
they have done to this country. The republicans will always go down in history as to blame.

They have had full control and yet still manage to blame everyone else for the problems.

Look around, because Bush has left this country with no other option but for the government to step in. This has been breeding because of his carelessness and ineptitude. He ruled like a king/tyrant in the white house.

This will be on his hands.
About the same damage Clinton did in his final months after the election (NM)
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Sorry but Bush is a crook and nothing you say will change that. He did our country a lot of damage.
just move on from that, you cannot. It's damaged us a whollleee lot and your snide comments will not change that.
Well, you said you had a busy day
not had time to turn on the TV yet. This is all over the networks.
Well, it's just another one of our busy
conversations! She seriously needs to find something to do with her life besides run down good people. She is hilarious!
Sam too busy hanging out at tit-for-tat
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She's too busy rolling them!
Seriously though, I think it all depends on your views (no pun intended) who you like or don't like on that show or elsewhere for that matter. I happen to like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, democrats hate them.
I was too busy griping about.........sm
the auto industry.....you really should be more patient, you know. 
Perhaps you should take a bit of time out of your oh so busy...
day and read up on Charles Krauthammer. He is well-respected in Washington and has served in a couple of administrations. Expand your mind darling...
Perhaps you should take a bit of time out of your oh so busy...
day and read up on Charles Krauthammer. He is well-respected in Washington and has served in a couple of administrations. Expand your mind darling past the left-wing web sites.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
yer too busy puking to debate.

Did it every occur to you that we are busy doing instead of talking?
While I am sure that it has never occurred to you, you are the person who some time back said that you never make generalizations.  That, obviously, was not true.
Too busy for blather and babble...
Which places me at distinct disadvantage when it comes to being on a level playing field. Rather than give you the satisfaction of taking that ball and running with it, being that rt-wingers love to have that last, best word and, when all else fails, to deploy their kick-em’when their down weaponry (one of their more notorious modus operandi), I have come to a decision.

GT/GW/BK is going to grant your wish and trot on off into the sunset where the first order of business will be to wash off all the mud and slime of slur and slander. My absence will remove your forum for all these trite tantrums and tirades. Besides, I have more that adequately illustrated the points I was trying to make. Your ignorant bigotry exposed itself, so I didn’t have to bother much with that. But as long as you insist on preaching sermons that polarize us from one another and couch them in contexts every bit as distasteful and hateful as you find Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s creed, there will always be enough “vitriol” coming from all sides, if that is the way you prefer to play your cards and tone you chose to set in your posts. Your bully tactics will never succeed in scaring off those who are willing to step forward to advocate for minority interests, human rights and diginity, inclusion and equality. Pull as many punches and take as many jabs as you like. There are plenty where those come from on both sides of an argument.

So from behind the cloak of chat room pen name anonymity, GT/GW/BW will be settling into retirement, composing brand new posts and looking for worthy opposition and viable solutions, not fringe fanatics and bar room brawls.
PS: FPJ, one in the same. The plagiary ball is back in your court, where it belongs. Interesting, though, just in case FPJ was an entirely different indivudual, you were already spinning "channeling" theories which you then tried to use to insult a hologram, discounting any possibility that FJP could conceivably be speaking on her own behalf. Ciao for now. It's been fun.
Replying to all your posts...keeps me busy....
and you all accuse me of keeping the thread alive. Hellloooo. 95% of my posts are in response to your attacks. Stop attacking, I stop replying. see how simple that is???
Yes, i have plenty to keep me busy. Your attitude

just makes you seem somewhat sexist and I really was just curious? 


While you're busy running around...

...monitoring and reading everyone's minds, it appears you've lost your own in the process.


It doesn't matter what a poster writes.  If you perceive anyone even trying to support the President of the United States, you automatically go into full combat alert and slam that person, regardless.  This is why intelligent, productive discussions can't be held on this board:  too much bitterness, hatred and playground bully behavior.


Obama won.  Your guy lost.  How about showing some dignity and grace (if you're capable).


While you're busy running around...

...monitoring and reading everyone's minds, it appears you've lost your own in the process.


It doesn't matter what a poster writes.  If you perceive anyone even trying to support the President of the United States, you automatically go into full combat alert and slam that person, regardless.  This is why intelligent, productive discussions can't be held on this board:  too much bitterness, hatred and playground bully behavior.


Obama won.  Your guy lost.  How about showing some dignity and grace (if you're capable).


No..,.actually he is very busy RUNNING our country
He is the president of ALL the people and the MAJORITY of ALL people approve and support him. AND, much to your dismay I am quite sure, he is doing a GREAT job of it!
JBB won't read anything.....too busy pushing
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No, you're too busy defending an incompetent

'Well, 'scuse me, GP. I was pretty busy

working today and didn't have much time to do anything else. I spotted that post and just wanted to see where it came from. FYI, I usually I DO my own research.


You're too busy trying to insult the posters
that I even copy your own words and you argue against that. One poster said he has never run for President or Vice President and you replied to that post and said "Yes he has". Brother I keep saying its like talking to a brick wall.
Busy working. Didn't pay attention

when that was going on. It was only after I started reading the posts on this board that I really started to nose around. If I would have known, I would've been protesting loudly. So, it's my fault in that respect.


I still don't have a lot of time to spend on this board, but someday I will. Some days I can't get on here at all. Other days, only 1/2 hour.


Bush is busy writing his legacy.
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Everybody else is too busy getting ready for the coronation of the Obamanation!
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Been trying to call the white house....busy ALL DAY!!
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My goodness. O witch hunt sure is keeping you busy.
It is in its 3rd day. No comments on the discussions regarding party revamp? How about today's agenda? Keep your eye on Jindel. He did a great job in Louisiana with disaster mgmt...and GOP will be neding plenty of that in the 2008 election aftermath. Seriously, as a left-wing commie Marxist terrorist unAmerican anti-patriot, he has GOP leadership written all over him. Mayb you should take a hate break and take a look at him.
And no matter how many there are Obama will keep his law firms busy blocking them...
and spending, spending, spending.
They're busy trying to fix the mess the House Of Greed

JTBB doesn't have time for such things...too busy
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Asked for proof, suddenly she's too busy. LOL. Figures. nm
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Agree! Obama is too busy screwing us to worry bout
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President Bush is kinda busy right now, you know, a little thing called a hurricaine. sm
Cities ruined, people dead and missing, flooding, looting, stuff like that.  Give it a rest.