Excellent point! (sm)
Posted By: Marmann on 2009-04-18
In Reply to: There are insuling and judgmental - people in both major parties.
I remember when a lot of people who were against Bush were even kicked off this board for expressing their opinions (when the board was run by someone different), saying that Bush is the President of the United States and should be shown respect.
You're totally right. The positions are now reversed. It's almost the same, except the right is getting meaner and more angry all the time (in my opinion), to the point where some of them are seriously starting to get scary. 
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EXCELLENT point! nm
excellent point
You have taken a startle complex to a burning house. Talk about constantly overreacting, overblowing, and goin all histrionic over every little thing . . . burp.
Excellent Point
I saw a survey some time ago where more Americans could name the 5 members of the Simpson cartoon family than could name the first 5 rights granted by the Bill of Rights.
Excellent point! No one had heard of him until the last...
Dem convention.
Excellent point! Please see message.
I guess is the true definition of the "trickle down" theory.
On a personal note, I had a scheduled visit with my doctor two days ago. In addition to CF and all its associated problems, I now have a bulging disk/facet arthropathy in my back, and it's very painful at times. He INSISTED that I go to Physical Therapy. I refused, telling him that I have so many bills now that I can't imagine incurring ONE MORE BILL because from a stress level, I just can't take any more of the stress that goes along with being ill and uninsured.
So even though I'm still (somewhat) employed (part time), I, myself, am an example of a patient who is denying a medical Transcriptionist the opportunity to transcribe a PT note, so in addition to all the unemployed people, there may be some of us who are still employed but reluctant or unwilling to incur more medical bills.
I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.
The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
Excellent! Thank you.
Excellent!
'Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed.' Bruce Springsteen.
Excellent.
A lot of people do say if she was a man the media would never go after her and she wouldn't be attacked like she has been. I liked the post. Thanks.
Excellent.
If O wins and a few months goes by, I will be proud to say I am the one who voted for McCain. This is not a normal election, this is like a radical movement going on.
EXCELLENT.
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Just the big bad.....also excellent.
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Excellent
I saw this back during the election. It brought tears to my eyes back then and still does. This soldier is so very right with everything he has to say. I think it's just a very sad time for our country right now. Gone are the days of many people feeling patriotic and doing what is necessary to keep our country free. I mourn for the country we once had and am very guarded about what is to come for us.
I served in the US Army to protect our country. I was a very proud American and served to protect our country from enemies.
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Back then we all thought it would only be foreign enemies. Who knew back then that in the future (now) it is domestic enemies.
Way to go! Excellent!!!!!!
I was actually going to post and say I do believe he actually goes to the bathroom the same way all of us do (well the men at least). So, hey, he must really be like one of us. I am truly amazed at the way some people think. I find American Idol tryouts to be more entertaining.
The last I knew Barack Obama was a human being. A man just like every other man on the planet. Sleeps, drinks, eats, and poops the same way. The people treating him like a God is getting way out of hand.
The simple matter they all fail to forget is just cos he eats a dog and fries does not make him like us. This is a man who was pushed into power faster than any of us could turn around. This man sends his kids to camp that costs $10,000 a week. This is a man who lives in mansion and has no idea what it is we (the plebes of society) are going through. He will never have to worry about putting food on his table, paying his electric bill. He is in a life of luxury and every once in awhile he will do a photo shoot so that people will say "wow, look at that, he ate a dog and fry - gosh he must be in tune with us". Here's some news...Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John McCain, George Bush, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, John Edwards....they all do these photo ops too (remember Hillary guzzling down the beer with the workers). They all do it.
People need to stick with issues. Not this phony photo op thing. All presidents to it. As for him holding a baby. He was on TV and I saw someone hand him a baby and he didn't look all that happy or comfortable about it.
Barack Obama will never be "like us". Just like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Mit Romney, etc. These people are and never will be "like us".
LOL - That was excellent! Thanks
I love Jon Stewart. I like that Obama has a great sense of humor. Its the obots that give him a bad name.
I thought it was funny that on the podium under Baracks name his title is "Almost President" ha ha
Thanks for sharing! I love a good laugh no matter who it is about.
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!
Okay - I'll tell you right now I haven't watched the whole thing, actually I haven't watched any of it :-)BUT..... with that said my DH has watched it many times. He keeps telling me to watch it and it's one saved in my favorites for "one of those moments when I'll have time to do something other than work". He's told me all about it and we've had this discussion so many many times.
I'll tell you what I feel..... What happened to JFK is just a grain of sand compared to what has been done with this whole thing. I loved the part where GW tells the kids he was watching TV when he saw the first plane hit (nobody saw it cos it wasn't on tape). I also loved the reporter (not sure if that is on this loose change video) but loved the reporter who was talking about Building 9 (I think it was called bldg 9) that had just collapsed and sitting there behind her was bldg 9 still standing. A short while later it collapsed.
Not many people I can talk to about this because they'll claim me a "whacko" and ridicule me and tell me I've got all these conspiracy theories and treat me like I'm that character that Mel Gibson played in the movie "Conspiracy Theory". :-) But this is just so much to think about. It's horrible and I am shocked that in my lifetime I have lived to see something like this. It does make you think - that's for sure.
Excellent - you said it better than I could
I'm not very good at expressing myself, but you said exactly what I feel. If I want to give charity I will give it of my own free will.
We do not need redistribution of wealth and socialism. If you think redistribution of wealth and socialism is the way to go, then move to Cuba or Russia because you are not a patriot of the United States of America and everything our founding fathers fought for.
Excellent - thanks
Especially your last paragraph.
Thank you for this excellent example of
Not one mention of the 1948 or 1967 wars that were launched against Israel. Not a word about Arafat, Hamas, rockets, suicide bombers, etc. Not a word about the countless ceasefires broken by the Palestinians.
This is nothing but a complete distortion of the truth about this region.
Excellent post. Thank you. NM
Excellent post!
Thanks.
This is an excellent article.
This guy has his finger on the pulse of the majority of Americans.
Thanks for posting it.
Excellent post!
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Excellent article. (nm)
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Chris was excellent
pinned him to the wall like a bug (no offense to bugs out there). Intersting also that he mentioned McCain's former policy chief (or something) Tori Clark wrote a book with the name. I love to see the hyocrites squirm. it sends a thrill up my leg.
Excellent post!!
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I didn't know this - excellent!
Tx for the link.
Excellent post!!!
My sentiments exactly!
Excellent observation
Truth is truth and facts are facts. No matter how much you hate someone and think their dummer than a rock, you can't put the blame all on him. Everytime the democrats get into office the economy goes down the tubes. The facts are that the congress votes on issues (not George Bush).
Love the observation. Thanks.
Calm - thanks - an excellent
addtion.
Excellent post
You hit the nail right on the head.
Excellent article!!! Thanks, sam!
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Excellent link - thanks
One thing about the crisis...sure been learning a lot about the economy these past few days.
FrontPageMag Is excellent
Maybe the poster has a problem with Jews (David Horowitz, etc.)... Everyone shoud read this article!
To All My Friends, this is long, but very important, please take the time to read it.
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a
year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times
since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I
must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN,
and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six
months ago, I started thinking "where did the money come from for Obama".
I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and
money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots
of student loans.
I started looking into Obama's life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California . He is very
open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was
wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply
himself to his studies. "Barry" (that was the name he used all his life)
during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid,
both from Pakistan . During the summer of 1981, after his second year in
college, he made a "round the world" trip. Stopping to see his mother in
Indonesia , next Hyderabad in India , three weeks in Karachi , Pakistan
where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his
father's family. My question - Where did he get the money for this trip?
Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like
this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at
Columbia University in New York . It is at this time he wants everyone to
call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia ?
It's not cheap! to say the least. Where did he get money for tuition?
Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a
Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago ? Why not New York ?
He was already living in New York .
By "chance" he met Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria , and a real
estate developer in Chicago . Rezko has been convicted of fraud and
bribery this year. Rezko, was named "Entrepreneur of the Decade" by the
Arab-American Business and Professional Association". About two years
later, Obama entered Harvard Law School . Do you have any idea what
tuition is for Harvard Law School ? Where did he get the money for Law
School ? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago .
Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with
Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented "Rezar"
which is Rezko's firm. Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial
contributors when he ran for office in Chicago . In
2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune
reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with
"seed money" for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home
in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).
With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?
On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for
full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born
billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home
was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett was Michele
Obama's boss. She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any
major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born?
Ready for this? Shiraz , Iran ! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going
crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was
"sacked" after the press found out he was having regular contacts with
"Hamas", which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran . This past week,
buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that
during Obama's visit to Iraq , he asked their leaders to do nothing about
the war until after he is elected, and he will "Take care of things".
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in
Pakistan ? They are in charge of all those "small" Internet campaign
contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and
middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East ?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times
posted a verbal slip that was made on "This Week" with George
Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, "My Muslim
faith". When questioned, "he make a mistake". Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it
- Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily
Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September
7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, why
haven't all of our "intelligent" members of the press been reporting this?
This phrase keeps ringing in my ears: "Beware the enemy from within."
Marlene
Excellent post - thanks
What an excellent post! Very well thought out.
PS - I did not know hersey moved. I always thought they made all their candy in Hershey PA (I went to the factory when I was little). I'm no longer buying that brand anymore.
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Excellent post!
I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote, right down to getting rid of Pelosi! Bravo! 
Excellent Post.
One of Clinton's major mistakes when he took office was appointing people with little or no experience.
Excellent response
I have been with my partner for almost 18 years. We own a house and cars but we can not do it together because a family member can come in and take away the house, cars, furniture, etc., even though it is something we built together for many years. If she were to be hospitalized, her family can deny me the right of making any medical decisions or even seeing her for that matter. She and I have no say in our life because of the so-called sacred institution of marriage.
One thing I am sure of though, if she should become sick I would be the one to take care of her (rightfully so) and we would never see or hear from her family. But should she die....I would be homeless with nothing because of the vultures. This is a major reason for marriage plus it is nice to have that committment to the person you love.
Excellent post - Thank you
It gets so frustrating to have to repeat this over and over and over. The people (or most) that voted for him knows this to be true but they don't care. They don't care that the possible next prez is not US natural born. They don't get it and they don't care. They don't care that our constitution is being violated. Having him in there is going to open a lot of flood gates from people all around the world to now apply for the position of Prez. His staunch supporters knows this and to get around it they will call us sore losers, sour grapes or any other derogatory comment they can think of. For me it's not that I wanted McCain in cos I didn't. I just want the constitution to be followed and a US Citizen to be picked for our president. Then you've got the O strutting around trying to ignore the facts and get away with it. If he is elected by the electorates coming up in a couple weeks, then our constitution and laws mean nothing. Anyone is going to be able to do anything they wanted. Heck, I didn't want Hillary, but at least it's legal if she gets in. Then there is Kucinich, Clinton, and the others who ran. They are all US born, but has to make you wonder why the O skirted up so fast without having to prove anything. Really makes you wonder why he was picked and who was on the COB that picked him.
Thank you for your well thought out post. I'm glad I'm not alone in knowing something is just wrong with this whole thing.
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