Easy way for racists to hide their truths as well
Posted By: Pure Cop Out on 2009-04-18
In Reply to: What is worse, anyone who questions Obama's - policies is termed racist -easy way out.nm
Sure seems an easy way out to say that "oh! everytime I say something about Obama people say its racism, but it's not!" What a copy out and easy way to try to hide your racism.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident
The weapons arsenals clearly tell the story of who the terrorists are. It's the occupation, stupid. There is no justifying it. The very idea that 21st century human beings would even THINK about trying to while the death toll approaches 700 vs 4, 50% of which are women and children with the portion of civilian men (fathers, sons, brothers, uncles, cousins and friends) and elders remaining undocumented, schools, markets, ambulance drivers and UN humanitarian workers being targeted, basic human services and infrastructure such as electricity, sewage disposal and roads destroyed in the middle of a press black-out and a land-and-sea blockade on all sides is positively SICKENING.
His web of half-truths is going to start unraveling.
His whole policy seems to be hide, deny, backtrack, CYA, deny some more, and confuse with a half-truths and misstatements that imply what he wants people to believe. When he gets called on it, they say we never said that. They didn't have to, they implied it until the cows came home. What do you want to bet that when investigative hearings start, the whole story changes again?
Wouldn't it be simpler if they listed truths? LOL
People with nothing to hide, hide nothing!
One of my favorite quotes!
Racists
There have been racists in the white house for years. Amazes me that people are getting up in arms about it now. Maybe because they are white, lol!
Racists
Black Panthers and Nation of Islam have hardly been around forever. That racism was born out of oppression and a need to fight back. If you oppress people for a couple of hundred years, it makes sense that some of them are gonna start to be a little leary of whites and a little bit angry too. Heck, I know I would be.
I think racism in all forms is a terrible thing, but I can certainly understand where it comes from. Oppression of blacks and other people of color is still alive and well in this country, all over the place unfortunately. Nothing sounds more whiney than a bunch of white folks sitting around saying they are being discriminated against, give me a break!
Oh we're just ALL racists and extremists
no matter how many times people explain to you that we are not Bush cronies and explain how we are not racists you continue pointing your finger towards us and crying *Racists!!! Look over there racists!!!* People aren't buying it nor appreciating it and it's really a reflection of the liberal agenda's intelligence level as a whole.
Your play in your outdated playbood of *just keep screaming something is true even when there's no substance to it OR it's been proven to be wrong* is so outdated and so blantantly transparent that if liberalism was a football team they would be losing 99-0 because EVERYONE knows EVERY play in their playbook.
She and her husband are both racists. -am so sick
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Oh, absolutely! There are many black racists
I don't have slaves, my ancestors NEVER had slaves; matter of fact, many of them worked side by side with blacks, doing the same field labor and hard labor. Black people have always gotten by with racist remarks, very vulgar racist remarks. They get a free pass.....why? Because they're black? absolutely! There is tons of hate generating from blacks. It's just that blacks have and always will teach their children to be racist and should never act so righteous.
Obama liked what he heard and has no problem with this way of thinking.......
Considering how he actually got voted into his office, should any white individual be surprised?
They will make up for all the racists who just voted against him BECAUSE HE IS BLACK
so it should be even
No, all racists stood in line.... pulled them out from
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With all due respect, I didn't bring up white racists (which I know exist), I was talking about s
the people who are zealous about white power and who will feel compelled to do something bad about a black president. I know it could go either way, but my post was stated because of the high probability that our next President will be black. I understand you completely when you say that there are white racists.
As for Louis Farrkhan, my college roommate was a member of the Nation of Islam and was so racist. She once told me that the reason white folks have those red dots in their eyes
when pictures are taken is because they are all evil and are satan's children. She truly believed that. It was very difficult living with her and I tried to get a transfer out of there, but couldn't and had to put up with A LOT of racism from this black woman. So, I know all about reverse racism.
Racists and bigots like, lets see, McCain and Palin, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Coulter and Hannity?
Give me a break....
Why is it sad? What do you have to hide? nm
I don't have anything to hide, do you?
I could care less if the government opens my mail (which they have been doing for years and long before 9/11 BTW), my emails or listens to my phone conversations. I have nothing to hide. You also are not allowed to send contraband in the mail. It's a federal offense and always has been. If one were speaking to terrorists and live in this country one should be brought up on charges of aiding and abetting the enemy and for being a traitor to this country.
I have nothing to hide. If this is
actually going on, they would quickly realize that I'm no threat. The worst they could get me for is gossiping.
No need to run and hide from
What I heard Obama reiterate his consistent policy to Joe the unlicensed. In the absence of a link, not too sure I heard that "below Joe" phrase from Obama, but I am assuming you are referring to income levels. Apparently, you did not hear me say that progressive tax structure has been in place for as long as I can remember and that giving tax cuts and tax credits, allowing tax cuts to expire, adjusting tax rate, adding and subtracting deductions, opening and closing loopholes revising categories of tax burden to be benefit or detriement of any given class (i.e, shrubs's tax cuts to the rich that redistributed tax burden "downward" onto the middle class) is nothing new under the sun and is actually very, very American.
You obviously do not understand (or at least, have a selective understanding of) socialism. Palin's "collective ownership of resources" skips that bump in the road all together and smack of communism...straight up, as does government ownership of banks and lending institutions along with government buy-outs of privately owned properties such as homes, as proposed by McCain. If Obama is a socialist, so is McCain, so is Palin and so is the shrub....unless of course, you would have us believe that as long as the bucks are directed upward to a ruling elite class (as was the case in the Soviet Union) and left to trickle down across the land does not qualify as redistribution of wealth.
Get over yourself. Palin and McCain have busted their own slur campaign just by opening their mouths. It does not matter to me whether or not you understand basic economics...what matters to me is how this folly is playing out on the campaign trail with the undecided and independent voters.
I think if they had tried to hide it...(sm)
it would have been 10 times worse. -- that would also be true if we were talking about dems in that position. Having said that, since Palin advocates abstinence and safe sex (as do the dems), the position her daughter is in only proves that this approach does not always work. I don't fault Palin or her daughter for the pregnancy, but I do fault the republican party for putting her up there as an example. It just sends a mixed message. I just think it was a bad choice.
NY'ers would never run and hide
I am a born and bred New Yorker and you bet we would stand and fight. New Yorkers are quite a tough bunch. You must never have met a New Yorker cause you would not question whether they would stand and fight. And if you are a Brooklynite, LOL, you are even tougher.
The only one who would worry about it is the one who has something to hide. sm
I could care less. I won't answer in this thread anymore.
Run and hide from this can of worms
You think you can dismiss W administration boondoggle on this by pointing a finger at 2 people? Cooked books do not even qualify as the tip of the iceberg on this issue. I will not be going to chat rooms and biased resources to analyze this one. It is HUGE and frightening in terms of just how close the country is to total economic collapse. Whether you realize it or not, this crisis has global consequences in overseas markets. We will not be the only ones mopping up and ultimately a global solution will need to come into play.
In any case, this subject deserves more than just a casual flippant dismissal, is quite complicated and requires objective and in-depth analysis before concluding who is responsible and, more importantly, what can be done in terms of policy and legislation to prevent it from happening in the future. Most definitively, of paramount importance will be the "R" word that sends chills down the spine of W's flock…regulation of the mortgage/banking lending practices. W is positively allergic to that idea, and McCain's policy on that is exactly what now? At least Obama had already addressed this issue in his platform and is currently making an effort to "study" the situation further before issuing any further statement on it. I appreciate that in a leader, especially when it comes to a crisis of such magnitude.
Your Enron analogy is delusional. Enjoy while you can and just wait for the real underlying issues to reach the light of day. Like I said before, this feminist flap is a featherweight distraction from critical problems our nation is facing, but then again, I would expect nothing less from the JM/SP camp.
He can't hide the fact
that he cheated on his first wife many times before he met Cindy McCain and left his wife for her. I also have a good friend who as a former fighter pilot actually knew John McCain. He saw the philandering first-hand and has a very low opinion of him. And he is a conservative republican.
Probably because you hide behind your anonymous
daily moniker. You won't tell anyone what you do, who you are, or what your husband does.
The previous poster did, and I applaud her and her husband for all their hard work and dedication, and community involvement.
Sounds like someone I'd like to call a friend.
I have nothing to hide either - but don't want them listening to me - nm
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How do you know Obama has nothing to hide? sm
I get no real pleasure with my gut feelings on this man. He was a complete unknown except for his past associations which he completely denied and threw to the curb when needed. It is a fact that he has put under lock and key, important documents that reveal his character. What you have seen play out in the media, is what they want you to see.
Everyone has a past. Hopefully, Obama can rise above it and prove himself to be an honorable leader. But some of his choices show his lack of character, and only time will tell who the real man is, who will become our next president shortly.
I myself think she was trying to hide it as long as she could -
the night she was first brought out, her daughter held the other baby in front of her all the time with an old blanket draped across her front. At the time, I kept wondering, why she would do that, and now I believe she was trying to hide her stomach from view that night.
O will fold and hide
behind Michelle's ample skirt. He has neither the experience or the guts to do what is needed. We will be run into the ground under and trampled over under O.
Yep, she could not hide her bias.
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Hide and watch. Isn't that what our very own
do, hide and watch right before they pull the trigger like they did with Dr. Tiller in a church no less? When it is Obama that is their next victim that they have been **hiding and watching**, I can't wait to see the explanations for that from the hiders and watchers on this very own board.
Limberger lies and tries to hide it, LOL
Biggest bunch of bunk? Limberger stated terrible things about Sheehan, ranting and raving. Then when he is called on it, he has it disappear from his website and states he never said any of it. Yet, the proof is in the pudding. Limberger is a liar, as are quite a few of the prominent radical right wing neocons, including the warmonger chickenhawk in the WH. The proof is there, the words were spoken by the druggie. So there is no reason to get all huffy and puffy, you have nothing to defend. Thank goodness for the written word and videos. Limberger..phew, he stinks.
Party all you want. Then go hide your money from
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Oooooo...let's all hide under the bed till he's gone! (nm)
You right-wingers are some wacky folks! I can't help but laugh at some of your posts.
Yes, any money you have left, hide it!. Otherwise,
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be grateful you have money to hide
so stingy and hateful
No instead they hide behind woman and children
In their own country. Not in boats.
I wish the people reporting this on the news would not be so iggy.
This is a lie. They live in Gaza. They don't hide there.
They were democratically elected into power, defeating the Fatah party, which retains its majority in the West Bank, but Hamas has won elections there, too.
The majority of the people in Gaza live in the squalor of refugee camps under the iron fist of their hostile occupiers who imposed an apartheid police state and enforce blockades of basic supplies such as food, medicine and MONEY. This strangles their economy and starves their people. Israel was supposed to lift the blockade as part of the cease fire conditions. They have had since June to do this and by the time the cease fire expired on December 19th, they had not done so and had no intention of doing so. THAT is why the cease fire did not hold. Surprise, surprise. More lies and broken promises from Israel, only these particular lies are creating deadly and fatal conditions for the entire population in Gaza. Can you say genocide? It's a war of attrition at the hands of Israel and sanctioned by the United States.
They do not hide behind women and children. The population in Gaza supports the resistance to the blockade, since they and their children are the ones who are being slowly starved to death. That's why they elected Hamas. An occupied population which has been invaded repeatedly, blockaded, has the highest unemployment rate in the world (Gaza at 45%), has no medical supplies and is on the verge of starvation tend to arm themselves and band together against their common enemy. It's human nature to do so. This is not about anything more than simple survival for them.
Actually, I was TRYING to hide from Rush; impossible because...sm
like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can. You know, it is ironic that Rush could be a lying, hypocritical pill-popper addict AND still be the messiah of the Republican Right. Were he a Dem or Independent, there is NO WAY that stuff would have EVER been forgotten/forgiven, no way. Just because we are not listening to the rantings of a hypocritical, press-hunting, pompous, loud, obnoxious BS'er like Rush does not mean we "don't get the real news"....on the contrary, I think it shows we do, and we can read between the lines and interpret with intelligence. JMHO, putting on my flame-retardant suit.
And that's NO JOKE! Hide and watch! Exactly what
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If it's high you flash it, if it's low you hide it.....sm
like everything else, isn't it?
You hide BEHIND race...that is your obsession with O
And, yes, admit it, you didn't have a clue about MLK, as many that repeat his words don't know, or they would rethink the Obama thing....
You do NOT know what he stood for, you just repeat stuff he has said and that is all. Do you know how he felt about dems? No, you don't.... how he detested them? no, you don't, do your homework and stop trying to twist things around...
For you and especially the loud mouth ranting earlier, race is THE issue...so why is it you don't mind spewing it out but you just can't take the truth thrown back at ya?! I suspect you should get over it as you put it...
Be easy...see ya!
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That was easy!
You said:
America is becoming a very scary place indeed. I believe, as you do, that there are people who are eagerly awaiting the *Rapture* and indeed believe they have the *inside track* to heaven. Unfortunately, it look as if this country might actually suffer from their self-fulfilled prophecy if it continues going backwards in time under Bush's completely inept leadership.
I wish it was that easy
Problem here is I don't know what to give up that would make a difference. Only 2 of us, we both work at home, so only drive to grocery store on weekend, or an errand here and there. We spend maybe $10 a month in gas, however, close to $200 a week on food (sometimes more). We have been cutting back on meat. Not so much because of cost but more because of constantly getting home and its bad. I'd love to get my food bill down but it is so hard and I don't know how without starving ourselves.
It's not easy
I can usually find socks and underwear made in the US, some jeans, sheets and tools, but when it comes to buying toys, there isn't much. (I think Slinky is still made in the US.)
But I read labels and check the descriptions when I buy on line and I try to buy American when I can. Same with cars; we're a big GM family.
Take it easy
May we please discuss matters w/o using angry, foul language? Because this leads us to nowhere. Thanks.
Won't go there. Too easy. :-) nm
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Easy....sm
My gut feeling is that every promise and idea and plans for our future that has ever come out of Barack Obama's mouth is a lie, or else it's couched in such a way that he will be able to twist it later. It's all socialism, being called by other names. (Most recent point being, his 250,000 tax the rich, which is now down to 120,000). I can never, ever, believe anything that he says. Slick Barry does not inspire trust in me at all.
McCain, well, honestly, only about half of his stuff do I disagree with. Sure, he probably has told some whoppers, but they don't kick me in the gut and make me gasp for air, the way the other one does.
So I'm voting for McCain. It's a matter of trust. I trust and truly believe he is the better choice, and will be better for America, in the short and long term.
There you go. That could not have come easy for you.
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it's easy to say that
you wouldn't mind paying a higher percentage if you don't have to do it. you may well be singing a different tune if you actually had to pay it. I am not making light of your situation. I am simply saying the percentage should be even. just to make it easy - if you make $250,000 and pay 25% in taxes that comes out to paying 62,500. It you earn 50,000 and pay that 25% in taxes you pay $12,500. don't you think the 62,500 is already enough; why should they pay more. I don't understand. But if I was earning the 250,000 and paying that much in taxed, I should wouldn't want someone telling me I should pay more because I actually did well for myself.
That's easy....(sm)
If you don't want your kids looking at porn on the internet, teach them not to do it. Provide your kid with internet access and put a block on that computer. If they are visiting a library during class hours and are looking at porn on the internet, I would say they have some behavioral problems anyway, and porn is about the last thing you need to worry about in that case.
You guys scream smaller government, but then you want the govt to raise your kids.
He's real. He is who is he is and he doesn't hide behind fakery. sm
I respect him for that. Harry Truman was not polished either. Neither as Lyndon Johnson. It's just not a big deal right now.
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