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Excuse me, I am intelligent, I listen to all of it, and make my own opinions....sm

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-03-02
In Reply to: Well said - I just gotta be me

STOP making the broad generalizations, it rates right up there with the "psychics and fortune tellers" who just know that Obama will fail and are actually licking their lips waiting for it. How childish. If you chose to listen to Rush and follow him, great for you, I guess. If I choose to listen to him and come to a divergent conclusion about his motives or veracity, or anything else about the man, I am also free to. You know the hold saying about ASSUMING?????????


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I need more than "shock and awe" to make an intelligent decision on this one...
As far as the fairness of evaluating a nominee who is a lawyer based on the argument that they advocated for a client or who they represented and the standard it sets for future nominees, I’m a big believer in reciprocity. If Obama ever opposed or criticized any of then President Bush’s nominees or any other President’s nominees because of who they represented or the arguments they made on their client’s behalf, then what’s good for the goose. . .
I appreciate the opinions, however;
as your fellow Ohioans voted him into the Ohio senate in 1996 has served six terms as congressman, it stands to reason your view is the minority.   Viggo Mortensen was in NH speaking on Kucinich's behalf during the caucus, and it is my understanding the Melissa Etheridge is also a supporter.  I just think your argument is a bit weak.  If you want to discount him, attack him for his views or failed policies.  I don't care if he is supported by people such as Willie Nelson.  I happen to enjoy his music and his private life is exactly that, private; and I don't believe in guilty by association.
Hey GP - I always say we may all have different opinions
But we should all feel strongly about our opinions that we put our name. It's good to see you too GP. Like I say we may not always agree, but I read the posts. My husband always tells me "Knowlege is Freedom". I agree with you though, it is hard to tell the posters. I've been swamped with work lately and trying to play with my cat more. Poor thing gets so lonely. And I go through stages with being tired of being bashed, then figure I have a right to post my opinion. So now I feel the board is getting too filled with the lovefest crowd for the O, so I gotta bring the board back to being real here again. HA HA -I'm sure you'll disagree with me on that one though :-), but differences are what makes this country so great. So now I'm back to posting my opinion whether someone likes it or not. Someone's gotta stir the pot. HA HA. If I feel strongly about a topic or an article I find interesting I will post.
Well, you know what they say about opinions........nm
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Opinions
are like (you know what word), everyone has one. You just have to know where to look to defend yours. We could post others' opinions like this all day - it's not going to change my mind and I can see it's not going to change yours.

You're entited to your opinion and I respect that.
How do you know how I seek my opinions?
Just because I don't listen to far left, excuse the phrase, wackos, that have been discredited right and left does not mean I don't seek out diverse opinions. I read and watch a lot of opposing views. I will say that I have core beliefs in which I have made my mind up about and my opinion does not sway with the direction of the wind on any given day. I don't see anything wrong with that, and that philosophy has served me well over nearly a half a century of life, so I will stick with the tried and proven.
What are your opinions on Fla and Michigan

I keep hearing about HC wanting to push on getting Florida and Michigan votes to count, delegates to be seated, etc.  While I understand about every vote should count and they should, I also understand that Fla & Mich agreed on this so that they could vote early (i.e. they broke the rules and were punished) and both sides (Obama & Clinton) agreed to it.  I guess at that time she thought that the whole US was just going to vote for her and nobody would vote for Obama and now that she is seeing otherwise she wants to change the rules/laws.


Now I don't even understand why there is a meeting going on.  Doesn't anyone just tell them...No!  You agreed to this.  You were told of the consequences and you agreed and now that your losing you want to change the laws to be put in your favor.  Every time they don't win they want to change the rules, and I dont understand why they are not just being told "No".  If they are so concerned about all the votes counting why didn't they just wait until when they were supposed to vote and not push it earlier.  I can tell you - because they thought they would be winning more states and they didn't care enough about Fla or Mich to wait.


Now I understand that she is going to go to the meeting and push that even with FL and MI she doesn't have enough votes, but she's now going to push for them to just dismiss Obama (even though he has more delagates and votes, and states won), that they should just dump him and make her the nominee because she believes she can win over McCain. She really needs to wake up.  She's just like her husband - a legend in their own minds.  If she steals this from Obama and becomes the nominee (which I doubt very very much) but if she was to be able to finagle that so much dirt would come out going all the way back to Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, etc, etc,


Maybe what they should be doing is taking responsibility and telling the citizens of FL & MI the real reason why their votes are not being counted - because of her and her decisions she made and if they blame anyone they should blame her for not following the laws.


And on another side cannot anyone tell me why in the world Obama's name was not on the ticket in MI.  I have not for the life of me figured out that one.  Only her name was on the ticket?  Helloooo....the last time I looked there were two candidates.  Now they are trying to say Obama removed his name from the ticket.  Yeah, right, tell me another one.  I hear that and I think, what country do we live in where the person who wants to be president has only their name on the ballot.  That's what I hear happens in Cuba, Russia and all those other communist countries.


When wil the insanity end?


 


 


I have every right to post my opinions :)
now I am finished with this really. these are my opinions and you just are not going to change them no matter how much you try to intimidate or try to demean me. your unkind words from the previous posts were all I needed to see. you came out as if it was you I was talking about so you must identify very strongly with this particular person. if that offends you - there is not much I can say, you are going to just keep on keeping on...

I still stick to my opinions from my first post, sorry you are offended so...

go ahead, have the last word...
Oh I see....just drive by and repeat the same opinions over and over.
Thank you for clarifying that for me.
So be it. We have differing opinions, both of us are entitled....
No matter who gets elected, I hope things get better for you. Sincerely.
No, I think the point is you don't seek out diverse opinions..sm
I watch Fox, listen to Hannity, O'Reilly, and many other conservatives (the ones that can be civil and are not self centered). I read and watch opposing views as often as I do amen columns/shows.

Condi Rice said at a graduation ceremony, (as I remember reading the article) *If you feel strongly about something (politically) that's fine, just seek out someone who feels the exact opposite and talk to them about it.*
GP is entitle to have 2 opinions on 2 unrelated topics.
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No, I watch the same thing, only I seek out diverse opinions.sm
In the past, I did not.

Here's a quiz for you: Name the best-known and most influential conservative commentators in America? Rush Limbaugh? George F. Will? Bill O'Reilly? Now, quick, who are their liberal counterparts?
Opinions count. Nothing wrong in researching them as long as
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Opinions on Hillary's proposed health care system?
Personally, I'm against mandatory health insurance laws.  Look how mandatory auto insurance goes - you buy the cheapest policy because you can't afford the good ones.  Your policy covers squat, but you're legal.  I'm concerned the "affordable" health insurance she wants to force us to buy will turn into the same thing - a crap policy that covers nothing but keeps you legal.  Does anybody else feel like I do about this?
Facts are always called opinions by the left when they refuse to acknowledge them...sm
The facts within the article are true. No matter how much you want to ignore them.


You are so blind.
Yup, don't forget to include the opinions of the criminally insane as undeniable truth....nm
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NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less

If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)

That's right, Bush is still alive and well.  Check this out.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676


Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?


As if you would listen. I might as well
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Don't listen to him either
I put him in the same boat as Rush, although I have to admit not as bad as Rush. Some of Savage's ideas I like, some I don't agree with. I like how he takes someone who is spewing utter garbage and puts them in their place with facts to back it up. He is pretty smart in that regard. Once we heard him and some caller was going on and on and Michael Savage told him he didn't know what he was talking about. They guy was getting so irate and Savage called him a rabbid dog foaming at the mouth then hung up on him. I can't tell you how hard we were laughing in the car thought DH was going to drive off the road.

I'll tell ya though. If I'm in the car and they are on the radio we will listen to them. We do take everything with a grain of salt because they all have motives.
Listen,

I was NOT the one who posted this.  Someone else made that connection and posted it, or they were a reader and are bringing it up again.  To give them the benefit of the doubt, I posted the link so they could see the issues and everybody up in arms about a simple word post, to try and quell the discussion, GOD forbid they attack that OP like you all did me.  My post was about the names and letters in the names and NOTHING trying to link the two.  JUST a name.  Get over it.


I already apologized for offending anyone.  Get over it.


By the way, maybe YOU should apologize for calling your fellow MTs "stupid" in your post.  That's real nice.  Any intelligent person can make their own mind up when it comes to the candidates, and they are not going to base it on their name.  That would be ignorant of them, now wouldn't it?


 


No sam, listen to me. I am only going to say...sm
this one more time and then I will give up. Last week when Bush presented the initial bill, wonder of wonders, would you believe it, the democrats where anxious to prove they were bipartisan and could have passed the bill he requested, not agreeing with everything but trying to come together for the good of the country. The republicans said no, we want some input, dems agreed and the conditions were added that the repubs asked for, now they are voting against a bill that has what they asked for in it, a bill that their republican president is asking for.
No one will listen until something happens to them. sm
They also rely too much on mainstream media instead of independent media. The media plays a huge role in keeping people divided, distracted, and deceived.
You are right, BT, listen up on the
to go will be the talk radio shows like Glenn Beck, Laura Ingrahm, you know the ones. The ones who have the audacity to mention the God word and other stuff like that.
Okay, listen up.
These people just got new jobs, just got their salaries, most probably top salary for them.


I know I don't make $100,000 or more a year.


And yet his first day, he is freezing their pay.


What is wrong with this scenario, you might ask?




What for it....




















No one probably gets a raise for at least a year anyway or more.




This is just a ploy, to satisfy us little peons in the moment.




Good grief. Get real people.
Oh, so you were there to listen? Really now
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If you listen all the way to the end.......... sm
he talks about starting a tae party in Chicago and basically inviting anyone who wants to be a part to attend. At least, that's the jist I got.
Listen to this guy. sm
He is a Iraq war vet giving a speech at a freedom rally. He is a great speaker, and sounds like he could be a future leader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOp_9VfR6o
So because I would listen to a gay

person's music....that instantly makes me accept a lifestyle that I find to be disgusting?  That just doesn't make sense.  For someone who preaches God's Word and claims to live by them, you seem to have no problem judging someone for their sins.  You think people should hide their sins because they are ashamed of them but you can't hide your sins from God.  The only thing you can hide your sins from or at least try to hide them from are other people and that just makes you a hypocrit in my book.  Yes, we lead by example but we also have to show people that we too make mistakes and can overcome that.  Hiding our sins just makes us fake. 


If a gay person puts out a good song....I'm going to jam to it and that doesn't mean I condone their lifestyle.


That was intelligent
now wasn't it, and quite disrespectful!!!!!  I am a Christian and I took great offense to this post!  People like you are the ones who are always saying how we as Christians are disrespectful and narrowminded, well ...... EXCUSE ME!  What did this prove.
Oh, now that's really intelligent....NOT! NM
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Nothing intelligent to say? How like you.
Yawn.
Do you have anything intelligent to say?
Seriously, BigBlah, you're a broken record.

Do you have anything to say about the topic, or are you just here to blah blah blah like you usually do?
That's all you got.....nothing intelligent to say?
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LOL, and not nearly as intelligent!!!

I like to turn on Beck from time to time to remind myself that, unfortunately, the Boogie Man really does exist!!  I picture him as the kind of nutjob that goes home and secretly downloads kiddie porn ...he gives me the creeps!


You win. You are far more intelligent than
overarching superiority. I am leaving now and will never return. You have shown me the light. I am not worthy of your time, and I apologize profusely for ever having posted here in the first place. Btw, the comment above was not mine, but perhaps they too will see the light. Thanks ever so much.
I already suggested that but maybe she will listen to you. nm

I listen to my own soul
I dont speak for other people.  I speak for myself..If others do not agree with me, great, that is the beauty of America..they have that right..I do not walk in lock step like brainwashed republicans do.  I choose what party to belong to, whom to vote for, how to believe..It is all up to me.so other democrats do not agree with me?  Wonder how you have the inside on how other democrats believe..however, that is okay..they can believe any which way they want.. 
Listen, GIRLFRIEND....
No I am not kidding you. They may have fought him tooth and nail on everything, but what got passed got passed because they voted it in. Bill Clinton in and of himself did nothing except cigar toast Monica Lewinsky and bomb an aspirin factory. He alone could do NOTHING. Why you cannot get that, I don't understand. You need to get a library card and USE it and look at how the federal government actually works. And as to impeaching him...if those same Republicans had voted like they SHOULD have, he WOULD have been impeached, and you can thank them for THAT TOO, "girlfriend." And impeached he SHOULD have been! He BROKE THE LAW. He committed felony perjury. Lied under oath. A crime in all 50 states. Look THAT up in the library as well.
I do not dispute that...listen to what I am saying...
if he honestly did not want to be portrayed in that way, why would you he use an elaborate rock star set for his speech? JFK spoke to a huge crowd too but it didn't look like a Hollywood production. If he wants people to think he is just one of the guys, why not dial it back a notch? That is all I am saying. I am not saying he has to "say" anything. Actions speak louder than words. It is the fact that he keeps denying he wants that status and acts completely the opposite. As far as hs ability to run the country...that has been in doubt with me for a long time and has nothing to do with his rock stariness.

I don't know what George Clooney has to do with it...or what the title sexiest man in the world has to do with it...?


They wont listen anyway, Sam.
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okay peeps -- listen up, anyone not

thread below, just check this synopsis.


Sam thinks that no one is blaming the dems enough for this situation and it's not fair to the pubs that they don't get their fair share of lynching.


Everyone else is more concerned about the effects of this economic crisis on their lives. 


Maybe you should listen to what your own candidate said about
him when he was pressed.  He said 'he is NOT a socialist, he is NOT a Marist, he IS a good man."  With that from McCain's  own mouth, looks like you could at least agree with your own candidate and get over it.
Don't you listen to him talk every day? sm
Try googling his speeches and press conferences of late, specifically that "it's going to get worse, before it gets better" type of thing. He is "warning" us daily of how bad things are and are to come, especially if we don't pass all his plans and policies ASAP.


It's all a ruse, to enact all his social programs under the guise of fear. We can pay the bill later, doncha know.






Child, listen up.
You have no idea who you are talking to, yet you seem to believe you know all about me. I have voted in 12 presidential elections in my lifetime, the first one being when Barack Obama was 8 years old. I've been active in politics for nearly 45 years, take my vote very seriously and keep myself well informed on all issues from both sides of the aisle.

Your simplistic dismissal of the jobs loss problems as being atrributable to the illegal immigrants only demonstrates how superficial your understanding is on the subject and speaks volumes about the sources for your information. You, my dear, are the follower, not me.

My support of Obama is based on the emergence of the right man at the right time for the job. I did not cast my vote this time around on my own behalf, like years past. This time, I did it for the sake of my son and the kind of world in which I want to see him live out his years and I can assure you, I do not envision that world being handed over to the divisionist viewpoints you have expressed where its okay to single out any given group on which to dump responsibility where it does not belong.
Then again, how man of us really listen to Joe Biden??? .....sm
He may have great foreign policy experience and lots of years in the Senate, but this man, nice as he might be, has hoof and mouth disease. I hold my breath every time he opens his mouth, he spouts off all the time without thinking...dangerous!
This is the man the pubs listen to.
Beck began his radio career when he won a local radio contest to be a DJ for an hour, and was eventually granted a part-time job. He hosted Christian radio on Saturday, rock on Sunday and country on weeknights. In the mid 80s he worked at WRKA radio in Louisville, Kentucky as a morning-drive DJ. His show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.

After graduating from high school, Beck pursued his career as a Top 40 DJ. By the time he was in his 20s, Beck was on WKCI-FM (KC101), a Top 40 radio station in Hamden, Connecticut, hosting the local morning show with Pat Gray. Originally the show was billed as the Glenn and Pat Show. When Gray left the show, Beck continued with co-host Vinnie Penn. While working in Connecticut, he appeared and sang background vocals on The Delrays' Red, White and Blues CD, a fund raising effort by then Governor John Rowland produced by guitarist Tom Guerra. The CD was well received and was promoted by a series of live appearances.Years later, he began to explore the world of talk radio with a three-hour program on KC101's sister station, WELI. Beck then worked at Tampa, Florida's WFLA-AM and launched The Glenn Beck Program during the afternoon drive, filling the slot held by Bob Lassiter after the station's new owners, Clear Channel, fired him. Beck hosted the new radio show, combining politics and comedy. In the first year, The Glenn Beck Program moved from 14th place to the #2 position.

His theme song back in the Tampa days was a copy of the song, "AM Radio" by the band Everclear. "You got Glenn Beck on your AM radio... AM radio."

Within 12 months, Premiere Radio Networks offered Beck the opportunity to go national. In January 2002, The Glenn Beck Program launched nationally; by May 2008, it had reached over 280 stations as well as appearing on XM Satellite. With over six and a half million listeners, it was ranked 4th in the nation.[2] In January 2006, CNN's Headline News announced that Beck would host a nightly news-commentary show in their new primetime block Headline Prime; the show, simply called Glenn Beck, began in May 2006.

On November 5, 2007, The New York Times reported that Premiere Radio Networks was extending Beck's contract. Two sources with knowledge of the deal said the five-year contract was valued at $50 million.[citation needed]

On July 21, 2008, Beck filled in for Larry King on the show Larry King Live.[3]

In 2008, Beck won the Marconi Radio Award for Network Syndicated Personality of the Year.

On October 16, 2008, it was reported by the Drudge Report and The Politico that Beck has signed a contract with the Fox News Channel to host a weekday show at 5pm ET beginning January 19 2009, as well as a weekend version. Because of his new deal, CNN immediately discontinued the show on October 17, 2008 and replaced it with a news hour anchored by Jane Velez Mitchell.

Is this the best this goofball has to offer you pubs...pitiful doesn't begin to cover it!
Okay, listen up - see message
You and others never once credited Bush with the good things he did. Believe it or not there was good he did in his Presidency (one example is finally getting my (and and many others) tax bracket down from 38% that was in when the Clinton (democrat president) was in office to 23%. Now that Obama is in my taxes are starting to skyrocket and I'm getting back up into the high 30 percentage again, unfortunately my pay hasn't gone up though. Like Obama, Bush walked into a "boatload of crap" that was left over from the Clinton administration. Sure he was not perfect, no man is perfect. He made mistakes - what man has never made mistakes. But he tried the best he could. Why didn't any of you give him a chance? You were too quick to condemn him. There is much he did I didn't agree with, but he was our President, and like you say "get over it".

What I am seeing here is anytime someone says they don't agree with an issue that's happening they are called racists or Obama bashers. We are not Obama bashers or racists, we are loyal United States Patriots concerned about our future, our children's future, our jobs, or homes, our lives. You think everyone is supposed to be happy happy joy joy about seeing the country being destroyed and not say anything??? This has nothing to do with the Captain incident, this has everything to do with the direction (dark hole) he is taking our country. When I see my job and my friends jobs going away, when all the campaign promises he promised us he is going back against (which none of you will ever comment on that), yeah we're pretty upset. You think we should all just walk out of our homes, and just go sit on a street corner hoping someone will throw us some change so we can get something to eat and be happy about it?

I didn't see the show with Newt Gingrich, but you know what, talking about the new dog is a stupid thing to talk about on a show when most Americans who are very concerned and upset about what is happening and how that is going to affect our lives - well you know what, we give a rats you know what on what kind of dog or what they name the dog. They want to have a dog, fine, who cares. Most Americans trying to save themselves from being foreclosed or losing their jobs do not care about the dog. Just like we didn't care about the first President Bush's dog. Obama wants to write a book about his dog, fine, but I don't tune into the Sunday political shows to listen about their pets.

You are mistaking "contempt" with "concern about our futures".

We are wanting to talk about the direction our country is going, issues, the mistakes that are being made and how can they be fixed. The damage being done to our country. If you don't like it - too bad!
Well I just had a chance to listen

to this and you kinda misrepresented what he said.  Surprise surprise.


He said he hated about 10 people out of the 3000 plus 911 victims' families who won't stop complaining, then he compared the people in New Orleans who were making it hard on everybody else there by not cooperating to those same type of people who are never satisfied no matter how much people are trying to help them.


I completely agree with everything he says on this.  I never really felt sorry for the people in New Orleans who refused to leave when they knew way ahead of time that a disaster was looming. 


So what? And to not let your daughter listen to
How bigoted is that? Children should be taught tolerance, not HATRED.