Geez....so many points to counter, so little time...

• scary days - satellitesally
  • wow, thank you. could not agree more - XanaX
  • One of the most eloquent posts to date! I hope you - continue to spread the truth
  • Who said it? Open mind and - see the message within.
  • Genocide? Talk about extreme. And Clinton's lies - were definitely the country's problem. sm
    • Well said. - nm
  • Wow, that's just ranting. Who will you blame once Bush is gone? - At least back up your words. sm
    • It won't really matter. Just having that hick finally - OUT OF OFFICE works for me!
      • Amen - satellitesally
        • Oh, yes, that justifies it. And people were behind Bush - after 9/11. nm
  • Geez....so many points to counter, so little time... - sam
    • did I say murder? - satellitesally
      • You said you can't legislate morality.... - sam
        • Really? - satellitesally
          • Not our job to police the world... - sam
            • no, you danced around it - satellitesally
              • And you twisted what I said also.... - sam
                • oopses - satellitesally
            • Definition of choice - satellitesally
              • But we are losing our ability to choose every day. - Whose fault is that? sm
              • All this proves is that liberals pick and choose... - sam
        • Who said it? Open mind and - see the message within.
        • Not to mention, THE PEOPLE vote for these laws and - Congress also. What about that? sm
        • STANDING OVATION!!!! - nm
  • Here, here, satellite sally. We have not - Go satellitesally!
    • Who said it? Open mind and - see message within.
    • What tax cuts is Barack going to give middle class? - Show me the money and valid SM
      • Go to www.barackobama.com/taxes/ - Go satellitesally!
        • As an IC, I'm considered a small business, so - while I like that both address this, sm

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Just because I reported something truthful? Ya better watch the news. I've been called a red neck, bible totin' gunslinger or whatever I was called during the election phase, but never a psychopath. I guess I'll have to add psychopath to my resume.

All I'm doing is asking a simple questionable reason for this to be happening.  Don't need you're sarcasm.

might help.

apparently he is not alone.

HMMM...check THIS out...

http://obamalies.net/

YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS ONE....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5StlCcv84&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4&feature=related

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5CQnOn75c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKlQSNN2zo&NR=1

The middle east is simply hoping for a break from the Bush policies, as well as policies previous to Bush if the truth be known.  For example, the majority over there would like to see us quit pampering Israel (and rightly so, I might add).  They would like to see the US treating them like people instead of just putting in dictators that we like. 

Obama hasn't won these people over yet.  They are simply waiting to see what he does.  They understand the concept of actions speak louder than words.  So actually, they are just giving him a chance to show what he will do -- unlike pubs here in the states, but I wouldn't go so far as to say he has won them over.  He has a long way to go to get there.

I couldn't find the Russert quote because you misquoted.  I believe both Cheney and Russert changed their positions since this interview.....

As far as the "747" you mention -- I couldn't find it because it was actually a "707" and here is another opinion on its significance:

"a former C.I.A. station chief and a former military intelligence analyst said that the camp near Salman Pak had been built not for terrorism training but for counter-terrorism training. In the mid-eighties, Islamic terrorists were routinely hijacking aircraft. In 1986, an Iraqi airliner was seized by pro-Iranian extremists and crashed, after a hand grenade was triggered, killing at least sixty-five people. (At the time, Iran and Iraq were at war, and America favored Iraq.) Iraq then sought assistance from the West, and got what it wanted from Britain’s MI6. The C.I.A. offered similar training in counter-terrorism throughout the Middle East. “We were helping our allies everywhere we had a liaison,” the former station chief told me. Inspectors recalled seeing the body of an airplane—which appeared to be used for counter-terrorism training—when they visited a biological-weapons facility near Salman Pak in 1991, ten years before September 11th. It is, of course, possible for such a camp to be converted from one purpose to another. The former C.I.A. official noted, however, that terrorists would not practice on airplanes in the open. “That’s Hollywood rinky-dink stuff,” the former agent said. “They train in basements. You don’t need a real airplane to practice hijacking. The 9/11 terrorists went to gyms. But to take one back you have to practice on the real thing.”

Salman Pak was overrun by American troops on April 6th. Apparently, neither the camp nor the former biological facility has yielded evidence to substantiate the claims made before the war."

Here we go with the celebrity subject again.  Also I don't want the Spears family used as a standard against which to select our national leaders. 

Bush "anticipated" this war as far back as 1999 when he said if he ever had the chance to invade Iraq, he would, so he could be seen as a war-time President and thus have a successful presidency.  This was two years BEFORE 9/11 happened and one year before he was President.

So this nonsense of "not anticipating war" is just another Bush lie, and I would encourage anyone who is truly interested in the "integrity" of George W. Bush to read the link I provided below in its entirety because it is quite revealing.  It not only includes this tidbit about his wanting to invade Iraq but also shows, once again, how an innocent man who was his ghost writer on a book (and also a family friend of the Bushes) had his character attacked after the Karen Hughes and others came in, realized that Bush said too much, and the author (Mr. Herskowitz) was fired, citing personal habits that interfered with his writing -- totally false and another example of how Bushies will destroy anyone -- even friends of the family.  It shows just how despicable they all are.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm

Second:  His comment regarding the economic crisis:  "You know, I'm the president during this period of time, but I think when the history of this period is written, people will realize a lot of the decisions that were made on Wall Street took place over a decade or so, before I arrived in president," Bush said.

He threw his own father under the bus on this one because the administration in control "over a decade or so" before Bush's installment as President was Bush 41.

Third:  Bush said that he regrets that he was unable to change the partisan tone in Washington -- one that permeated his presidency.

"I didn't go into this naively; I knew it would be tough," he said. "But I also knew that the president has the responsibility to try to elevate the tone.

And, frankly, it just didn't work, much as I'd like to have it work."

"9/11 unified the country, and that was a moment where Washington decided to work together," he said. "I think one of the big disappointments of the presidency has been the fact that the tone in Washington got worse, not better."

9/11 DID bring the people of this country together until BUSH, through his actions, brought about the divisions and the low morale that exists today and might never disappear.  The tone in Washington got worse because Bush continually thumbed his nose at the Constitution and at the Congress with all his "signing statements," "executive orders," playing deadly politics with outting a CIA agent, etc., etc., etc.  He laughed and joking about WMDs, pretending to look for them under his desk, and quipping, "Nope.  They're not there."  He showed his contempt for our brave soldiers during a ceremony where he was distributing medals to the survivors of soldiers who had been killed and told a griefstricken mother, "Now, don't go selling this on eBay."  (heh heh, smirk smirk)  He has used every conceivable opportunity to "raise the terror level" whenever it was politically convenient in order to keep this country in a constant state of fear and submission.

He has only ever cared about the richest top 1%-ers in this country.  The current (and never-ending) "bailout" will continue to make his rich criminal cronies even richer, and that's fine because we always have enough money to do THAT.  We just never have enough money to help the citizens of the USA.  Indeed, to suggest that we might even need help results in accusations of us being lazy or living beyond our means, etc.  There is no doubt about it.  All these "bailouts" are Bush's babies (complete with same secrecy and lack of transparency which has become his trademark), and buying up banks is fascism, plain and simple.  He can't blame Clinton, can't blame his father, and he can't blame Obama. 

We still have way too much time (in my opinion) left with him as the Commander-in-Chief, and he can do a lot more damage (besides all the safety regulations he is in a frenzy to dismantle, each of which that will make Americans UNSAFE).

With all the things he has done and is continuing to do, the only worry on this board is whether or not the Supreme Court will overthrow the will of the people (which could be very convenient for Bush in instituting martial law and promoting himself to "Dictator-in-Chief," the prospect about which he's "joked" on three separate occasions.  I wonder when the last time was that Scalia went hunting with Cheney and what their plans for this whole birth certificate non-issue are.

I suppose if the Supreme Court refuses to hear the case, then everyone on this board will say the Supreme Court is hiding something and go on an anti-Supreme Court tirade for a few months.

Or they might just let it go and return to questioning the "true motive" behind Obama getting his daughters a puppy (the "timing" of which has already been questioned on this board, which is even more bizarre).

All these terrible things that Bush has done over the last eight years -- and is still doing -- including stating that the Constitution is just a (insert Rev. Wright's "God" phrase here) piece of paper.  (How telling that I can't even properly quote the President of the United States because his language is too vulgar.)  I'm ashamed that Bush has not only talked that Constitutional talk but has consistently walked that Constitutional walk, as well.

His "divide and conquer" technique has certainly worked, as is evidenced by a quick look at this board and the negative judgment of the President-Elect before he has even taken the oath of office.

I've stated before that I will support Obama, as I supported Bush (before Bush gave me a TON of reasons not to).  However, it's clear to me that no matter how much Obama proves he loves this country, no matter how hard he works to unite us once again, no matter how devoted he is to bringing back the "American Dream," and no matter how hard he works to fix all the damage done by Bush, there are certain people on this board that will still invent reasons to condemn him, and they'll continue to jump from one non-issue to another non-issue.

I wonder where they all were during eight years of Bush's contempt for the Constitution and how loud their voices were in disapproval of his actions.

Bush can try to rewrite history all he wants, but I will remember what he did and what he's still doing.