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Genocide? Talk about extreme. And Clinton's lies

Posted By: were definitely the country's problem. sm on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: scary days - satellitesally

Yes, it's not a newsflash that ALL politicians lie, Dem and Repub alike, but the guy was busted with his cigar in the ... err, his hand in the cookie jar, yet stood there and lied to everyone. Guess that's okay as long as he's DEMOCRAT. If you think Dems don't lie just as much as Repubs, then you are completely blind. It's just all in whose lies you are more willing to believe, and apparently for you it's Democrat. Please, if you can't admit one other darn thing, you all have to admit that they ALL lie to us. This country is going to hellina handbasket, but the people of the country share some of that blame. The economy is bad, but a lot of people bought houses they couldn't really afford (bad loan companies or not, they had to know), racked up credit card bills they could never pay, and the list goes on. WE share in the blame. The only way any change is going to happen, whether it's Repub or Dem on Nov. 4, is if we all pull up our sleeves and work toward it instead of lashing out at each other based on stupid party lines and making excuses and placing blame for every single thing that happens, even when it's a natural disaster like a hurricane, flood, etc. God help us all if there are a lot of other people that think like you do. You DO realize that while you're blaming Repubs for only believing what they read/see in media and not researching what they believe, a lot of what you say comes straight from the media and isn't even entirely accurate. Do yourself a favor and practice what you preach and do some truly unbiased research, not based in Dem or Repub muddle, before you reply. No hearsay, no op ed piece drivel, no blog spewing, but honest to goodness FACTS. Going to be hard to find when the media is so biased, but it's out there. Something tells me you won't bother because you've already made up your closed mind, as long as it's Republican affiliated, you hate it. That's your idea of being a broad thinker?


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Clinton's Lies
Clinton made his worst mistake by not taking Osama bin Laden when he was offered to him on a silver platter by the Sudan. In case you have forgotten, he was major planner and money man of 9-11. Had Bill not been afraid of the political fallout...he might have been able to stop 9-11. And when it all comes out about Able Danger...he is finished and so, hopefully, is his wife, as far as politics are concerned. And the surplus you drone on about was a PROJECTED surplus, if spending was frozen for the next 10 years. Like THAT was going to happen. Sheesh.
I'm not going to get into the Clinton vs Bush lies because
I don't know if Bush has lied intentionally or not, but it is pretty clear to me that the case made to go to war in Iraq was fabricated. If you ever get a chance watch Dead Wrong on CNN. This is not a politically motivated show just facts.


Let's talk about the Clinton family hypocrisy on...
law enforcement, and then the Kennedy family hypocrisy on law enforcement...if we are going to talk about ANY family and law enforcement in politics...shall we??
"I think the extreme left and extreme right both need to get a clue!"..sm
That's what you said in a post above, and yet, your post is definitely extreme right.  I don't think you have a clue about most of the crap you spout out. 
Clinton...talk about a rewrite on history...sheesh....
He was a waste of a good president. Ergo, he was an embarrassment, in more ways than one.


Where do you want your break, anyway?
No they shouldn't - lets talk about prosecution of Clinton

Listening to this reminds me of why I don't talk to my mom about politics. She is ignorant of the facts.

You may not like them and no, they were not perfect but they did what they had to do for the safety of the country.

Unlike what Clinton did during his administration. There is plenty there to prosecute him for.
so you believe we are committing genocide?
really?
If illegal, immoral war is genocide, then yes.
be escorted to France.
When Hitler did it they called it genocide...(sm)
I guess they had a good teacher.
She loves genocide, if it's done in the *right* place and to the *right* people.

Her love and kindness for her fellow man certainly shows in her comments on Oklahoma City.


My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.


--Ann Coulter as quoted in the New York Observer, Aug. 20, 2002


RE: McVeigh quote. Of course I regret it. I should have added, 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and reporters.'


--Ann Coulter, from an interview with Right Wing News


And the Sudan genocide continues under Bush's watch.
We could bounce these back and forth all day.

I think he was a good president overall, but not intervening in Rawanda was Clinton's biggest failure in my book.

But if you are going to talk about blind eyes on the genocide in Africa I suggest you go back a little further through American history than Clinton and bring it on up to this current administration.
First, Israel is not committing genocide. History shows

that it has been the Palestinians who have been the aggressors.  Israel goal is protect its people from suicide bombers and the palestinians' so-called "intifada." 


But this argment is getting tired and obviously you cannot see where using Hitler to emphasize your point is a poor choice and would make a Jew view you as an anti-Semite.  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...


Sometimes this guy is way too extreme....
for me, but if you look past the rhetoric and pick out the points, he makes some good ones. Just my take.
How am I extreme right?

I think abortions should continue to be legalized but late-term abortions stopped.  If doctors and/or certain hospitals do not believe in abortion, I believe they have the right to refuse to perform it.  That is their right.  They shouldn't be forced to do so for fear of losing funding or their job.  I lean conversative but I'm not a right-wing nut job.  I want a smaller government.  I want people to grow up and learn how to be responsible for themselves instead of depending on others to provide for them.  I do not want to reward laziness and stupidity....which is what we are heading for.  We should reward hard work and achievement.  Not everyone has a right to a house, car, etc.  You have to earn that stuff.  I don't want government telling me what I can and can't have done medically or for government to decide whether I should have treatment for an illness or not.   


Like I said....I may lean conservative but I see the fault in both political parties....which.....it doesn't appear that you do.  Everything is still Bush's fault in your eyes.


Other than extreme circumstances....SM

one is too many.


Can we say extreme prejudice? (sm)

Now where have I heard that kind of sentiment before......hmmmm....oh, I know.  It was Hitler.  In your statement you have shown a complete disregard for life.   In my opinion, anyone who would so enthusiastically support genocide, regardless of the circumstances, is simply disgusting and a waste of good air.


And you don't think you are extreme? Christian bashing again, I see. nm

No liberals here just extreme leftists

I know some good liberals and the ones who are here are not them.


If you are not a Bush hater or a Bush basher on this board then you're a troll.


God help these people if they ever do get in a real fight.


Don't you think that is a bit extreme? She is no worse than anybody else and at least she doesn&
I may disagree with most of what she says but she doesn't resort to name calling, except maybe in sarcasm. I would even go so far as to say she is doing some actual debating, albeit maybe a bit much.
yeah, just another extreme leftist who would never
nm
All who oppose your party extreme? I put US first.
nm
I grew up in extreme poverty myself - I am only 40 - I know (sm)
I know what the world is really like. I am not superficial. You just have no idea what you are talking about. I AM being a resonsible American and this is not nonsense. That is the confusion here.
yes, I agree, the torture was extreme, we just
got a 'glimpse' of it. But this is not the right time to expose it when the US troops are still in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Not surprising, since you're an extreme liberal.

Extreme medical situations is NOT what this doctor
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sounds like extreme liberal games to me to make mccain look bad...sm
I also think it's hypocritcal how burning mccain in effigy seems to be a-okay to the libs, and no one reports it.


think they're obama plants too...it's very plain to me.


Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness...see article/link

Psychiatry Ponders Whether Extreme Bias Can Be an Illness




By Shankar Vedantam
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 10, 2005; Page A01



The 48-year-old man turned down a job because he feared that a co-worker would be gay. He was upset that gay culture was becoming mainstream and blamed most of his personal, professional and emotional problems on the gay and lesbian movement.


These fixations preoccupied him every day. Articles in magazines about gays made him agitated. He confessed that his fears had left him socially isolated and unemployed for years: A recovering alcoholic, the man even avoided 12-step meetings out of fear he might encounter a gay person.







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Darrel
Darrel A. Regier of the American Psychiatric Association favors research but says it is not clear that establishing a diagnosis would be useful. (By Marvin Joseph -- The Washington Post)









He had a fixed delusion about the world, said Sondra E. Solomon, a psychologist at the University of Vermont who treated the man for two years. He felt under attack, he felt threatened.


Mental health practitioners say they regularly confront extreme forms of racism, homophobia and other prejudice in the course of therapy, and that some patients are disabled by these beliefs. As doctors increasingly weigh the effects of race and culture on mental illness, some are asking whether pathological bias ought to be an official psychiatric diagnosis.


I thought McCain was going to have a stroke. He was grimacing, rolling his eyes, showing extreme
anger.  Not much poise at all which is needed. 
Are more lies you want to tell?

Remember this from back in June???  There were several more after this one, also, requesting libs stick to libs board and cons stick to cons board.  What part don't you understand? 


You surely are an idiot and you lie.  Stay off the board and slink back to your pack of liars. 


How about we suggest a no-lying board.  Oh yes, there is one already.  It's called the liberal board.


 


 


 


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What lies? NM

Why do you come on here and tell lies?

I've never seen gt post on the CON board, have you?


The only folks on the CON board who were noted to be acting like kids/teenagers were the CONS. 


Truth is welcomed here.  Please take any untruths back to the CON board or better yet, keep them yourself.  It's only fair and right, correct?


Again with the lies....
Their VP nominee is on record saying their Pres nominee is not qualified for the job...now says he is. So he lied too...much bigger lie it would appear. Also said he would be proud to be on a ticket with John McCain. That has also changed. Pick a lie.
GWs top 10 lies

10. “I have been very candid about my past.”


9. “I’m a uniter not a divider.”


8. “My plan unlocks the door to the middle class of millions of hard-working Americans.”


7. “This allows us to explore the promise and potential of stem cell research.”


6. “We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th.”


5. “[We are] taking every possible step to protect our country from danger.”


4. “I first got to know Ken [Lay in 1994].”


3. “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” And, “[Saddam Hussein is] a threat because he is dealing with AL Qaeda.”


2. “We found the weapons of mass destruction.”


1. “It’s time to restore honor and dignity to the White House.”


Lies...

This is a great post.  I agree with gourdpainter.  A lot of people ask me why I am not voting for McCain and I tell them because he lies.  People always say to me that all politicians lie.  I then inform them that Obama is different than most politicians and he isn't a liar.  They laugh but when I ask them to name something he has lied about, they can't think of anything.  Remember in the debate when McCain said Obama was seeking a $3 million earmark for an overhead projector?  That wasn't just any overhead projector - it was for the Adler Planetarium.  Imagine all the education children receive from that planetarium too.  It amazes me when some of you try to make Obama out to be so sinister.


lies, lies, lies.

Do you believe evrything they put in your mouth?


 


And, once again, where? Lies. nm
nm
Lies, all lies, nothing but lies...

...and have you noticed how she's parsing her words ala Bill Clinton?  Depends on the meanings of 'used,' 'would be used,' 'may be used,' 'has not been used' are. 


Typical politician prevarication.  They never expect to be caught and when they are they backpedal to beat the band.  Does she really think we're stupid enough to believe she was briefed on waterboarding as an example of a practice we would not be using?  Would she like us to believe she was so stupid she did not understand the importance of what she was shown?  Either way, not a ringing endorsement of Ms. Pelosi.  God knows the power mad creature has made few friends in either party over the years.  Wonder of her party will use this as a way to disgrace her and get the reins out of her hands.  Can't wait to see how this plays out. 


LOL, who lies, not democrats
That is what dems say?  LOL.  I ask you to check out one of the top posts, i.e., Rush and Olbermann..Reality check starts attacking the poster, Olbermann, MSNBC, saying they lie, even though the transcript is on the web, also printed in his article, and on video..yet they are lying right?? and its the dems that always scream that people are lying, right? I thought up a new name for neocons after reading about that Xtian..NOT..Robertson stating Chavez should be eliminated.  Neocons are the American Taliban.  You are just as bad.  If everyone does not think, act, believe, live like you, then they are wrong and lying..You guys are ridiculous..
Yes, PK, too many lies too many times

More Republican lies...

but this one is actually funny!


http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html


Yes, the fault lies with me.

I was able to get the link to work.  You were not.  So something is wrong with me. 


So typical.


Ah but therein the difference lies

What a huge difference it is!


That between OBSESSION and normal ordinary use.  Tee-hee!!!!


Myths and Lies

McCain created the DoNotCall list:



  • Lie 8/17/08: "2003 – McCain led in creating the FTC’s ‘Do-Not-Call’ telemarketing registry"
  • Truth: FTC Chairman Tim Muris announced in October 2001 that the FTC was going to create the Do Not Call list

McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act:



  • Lie 8/17/08: "2003 - McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act to regulate the sending of unsolicited commercial e-mail (”spam”) 
  • Truth: According to the Library of Congress, three Republicans and four Democratic senators introduced the CAN-SPAM bill in 2003. John McCain was not one of them.

Obama would increase capital gains taxes on 100 million Americans



  • Lie 4/20/08: "Senator Obama says that he doesn’t want to raise taxes on anybody over — making over $200,000 a year, yet he wants to nearly double the capital gains tax. Nearly double it, which 100 million Americans have investments in — mutual funds, 401(k)s — policemen, firemen, nurses. He wants to increase their taxes."
  • Truth: "Investments contained in 401-K's (Or in the case of 'policemen, firemen' usually a 403-B), pensions, IRAs, tax deferred variable annuities, and similar retirement vehicles aren't subject to capital gains tax -- they're not taxed at all. Changing the capital gains tax rate will have zero effect on them. Withdrawals from tax deferred accounts by retirees are generally taxed at whatever the income tax rate is for that person at the time of withdrawal (Which, incidentally, is usually a heck of a lot more than the current long term capital gains tax rate, yet another way to rip off the middle class)." 

McCain's lies in sex ed ad

By LARRY ROHTER

updated 9:52 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept. 10, 2008


DAYTON, Ohio - Escalating its efforts to portray Senator Barack Obama as a candidate whose values fall outside the mainstream, the campaign of Senator John McCain on Tuesday unveiled a new television advertisement claiming that Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, favors “comprehensive sex education” for kindergarten students.


“Learning about sex before learning to read?” the narrator asks in the 30-second advertisement, which the campaign says will be shown in battleground states and on national cable. The commercial also asserts that a sex-education bill introduced in Illinois, which Mr. Obama did not sponsor and which never became law, is his “one accomplishment” in the field of education.


Both sets of accusations, however, seriously distort the record.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26649779/


What you call lies

can be verified.  People who want to know the truth should do their own research and not just believe what some people on this board would like them to believe. 


 


Obama lies...
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

At least this site attempts to back up why the lies are lies...and not just a laundry list of "likes" that are one man's opinion with no backup whatsoever.
There in lies the problem
The debates and the media are rigged so that no one outside the Democrat and Republican parties are allowed to seriously campaign.
Too much hatred and lies here

I come (used to come) to this board to hear about the candidates.  Instead all I'm reading lately is posters attacking others for posting their viewpoints.  Someone posts something about Obama and the O supporters attack them "lies" they call them.  They don't defend Obama but instead insult and attack the poster.  Then they come out and say "oh poor me, you just hate Obama, your so insulting" while at the same time calling them every name in the book.  What I'm hearing is the republicans are trying to shed some light on what Obama is but some of the democrats don't want to hear it and already exclaim that Obama has won.  They are condescending towards anyone who has a different viewpoint than theirs.  They won't read anything that has negative things to say about Obama and they won't read anything that has anything positive to say about McCain.  It's just hate-filled spew that comes out.  You'll cite polls if they favor Obama, and if they favor McCain you ignore them.  You won't even admit that the race is too close to call.  In your minds Obama has already won the election.  You'll support cheating if it favors Obama and condemn it if it favors McCain.  You'd rather live your lives having government regulate your lives, tell you what you can and cannot do, and take all your money to give a check to the people who are able to work but won't because why should they since they are receiving a check from government, while you are being told its your patriotic duty to give to these poor fellow Americans.  You'd rather have an inexperienced radical person running the country than someone who has experience and has shown by his voting record that he fights for the American people.  Yet not giving any reason (being older is not a reason).  I have not yet read any posts that are positive reasons for Obama being president, just hate-filled garbage against Palin.  Also makes me wonder why people are trying to keep Biden out of the spotlight.  Makes me want to find out more about what he's done in the past.


So I have decided to give the board a rest for awhile and will be back to vist after the election is over.  I'm no longer getting any valuable information here.  We have not had an election yet.  The polls are too close to call and even then you can't rely on the polls to give you accurate information (after all these polls are incuding all the dead people, pets, Santa Claus, Mary Poppins, Rama Dama Ding Dong, and all the other fictitious people, not to mention the people who registered 13 and 14 times or more as a democrat) in their polls.  I remember back in 2000 everyone was claiming Gore had won the election and it was very very close and look what happened.  He lost.


I will also continue to listen to all stations, and read all articles so I can at least get a fair and balance opinion of what is going on. 


So have at it y'all.  You seem to love attacking people for no reason and when I read these posts I can really feel the negativity and hatred oozing.  So maybe I'll just stick to the Gab board - I need some more positive vibes. 


P.S. - Just one more note.  Whoever wins will win, and whether it is democrat or republican we will deal with it.  When a democrat has won in the past there were no riots, republicans continued to try to work with the democrats, but we all know what happened the last two times a republican won.  As for the threats of "if Obama doesn't win there's going to be rioting in the streets".  Well if that does happen that goes to show you how many biggots wanted him in just because he's black - all the things they claim don't matter will come out.


I know, and there lies the problem
And when Jennifer Brunner was told that she needed to verify all the questionable forms (to date it is around 200,000), she files an appeal so that she doesn't have to. I dont' care what her party affiliation is - that's her job! Why is it no one in government can seem to get it through thier heads that they are supposed to do thier job? As an honest, working-class American, it really burns me that they think the can get away with just sitting back and doing nothing and then we're the ones that have to pay for it in the end.
Just one more of Obama's lies
I for the life of me cannot figure out why people believe him. He is not going to just tax 250K and above and I can believe anyone would be that gullible to believe him.

Our taxes are going to go up. There's no doubt about it. It's the only way they can generate income to feed all their programs.
Nothing new all lies. Be careful what YOU believe. nm
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