Good one, gourdpainter. I've often wondered that myself...nm

I haven't watched the board much, but normally a hornet's nest is easy to find once you post anything.  Then they just dog-pile on.

If you want to see some really neat stuff, go to lauraingraham.com and see these:

pot-stirrers wandered in and out of these forums just to rile people up on these controversial issues.  I hope you're right and it's not an MT.

Yes, people are all too willing to accept things at face value and not question and that makes it much easier for subversive factions to weaken and destabilize a system of integrity that needs to be protected.  I don't understand it when I hear people say that the CIA doesn't lie, or that government officials would never betray the trust of the people, but history has proven time and time again that it happens all the time.  Power and greed are insidious entities and unfortunately our society is rampant with it.  I have believed for a very long time that there are a whole world of things we don't have a clue about and, God forbid, the proverbial caca will hit the fan when those things come to light.  It's not a conspiracy theory or paranoid thinking, it is a reality.  There are two types of people:  Blissfully ignorant and painfully aware.  I was burdened with the latter  Gee, what type are you?

And all the other nay-sayers. 

About the post below concerning the audio interview with Obama on the energy issue, did you even listen to the audio that was presented? 

Not only did I listen to it, I went to the source web site and listened.  Here is the link if you want to check it out further.  http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=32228

The entire interview was about 48 minutes long.  It was Obama answering questions from several journalists on a number of issues.  He was first questioned about energy at about 25:15 in the tape.  The issue that was brought up in the post below that you called 'Horsefeathers' was discussed at about 40:30.  I encourage you go listen for yourself and hear the words from the horse's mouth. 

Other issues discussed along with the time markers for each discussion were: 

Health care 10:38
Securities Industry  20:00
Iraq  29:18
Environment  39:55
Racial issues  42:24  (And this was a listener/reader question)
Voting system in the caucuses (sp):  46:09

Obama is, without doubt, a very intelligent man and eloquent speaker, but I fear he may be far too intelligent, possibly to the point that he cannot be reigned in if necessary, and that in combination with a Democratic House, Senate and Judiciary branch makes him a very dangerous man. 

The ex-wife, scorned "pubically" -- was that what you really meant or did you mean publicly?  If so, it's the best typo I've seen all day.  If not, I'm still laughing!

Thanks -- I needed one today!

Somewhere down below I posted things I  had AGAINST Obama.  Sam replied.  Now I can't find the thread........typical for this old-timer.

Sam, I noticed a lot of "McCain says" and "McCain calls for" in your reply.  I say both candidates "say" and "call for."  Let's reason here together.  After his 25 years in the Congress do you think McCain doesn't have cronies in Congress and on Wall Street?  Do you think he isn't indebted to monied people in Arizona?  Likewise, Obama, do you think he doesn't have cronies in Congress and Wall Street AND in Chicago?   Well...news flash.  Sure he does.  Do you REALLY think either candidate, regardless of what they "call for" in pre-election propaganda are really going to do anything to benefit the common working class Americans?  I certainly do not.

I just finished reading the Wall Street report this morning and you know what I think?  I think everyone had better get out their Bible and have a read of Revelations whether they want to honor it as God's Word or just history.  It's all there as well as the end result.  Yep, I think we had all better turn to God.  He said if we would turn to Him he would deliver us and I believe HE is our only hope.  Otherwise, what I see is China forclosing on our huge national debt and then skip the socialism, we'll go directly to communism and we won't pass go and we CERTAINLY won't collect $200. Another good read might be the fall of the Roman Empire.

I can't believe I'm still wasting my time railing about the state of this countries ills.  No one will see that it is not DEMOCRATS or REPUBLICANS that are at the root of the problems, it's the AMERICAN people who can't get past party affiliation.  No change will come until the American PEOPLE make it come.

I don't really think Obama is going to come right out and admit that he is friends with Ayers - that would spell disaster for his campaign and plans.  I have learned I cannot trust what is fed to me, so I watch all of the stations, including Fox, and I read through tons of information on the internet and make up my own mind instead of letting the media make it up for me. 

I will tell you, when this campaign first started, I was so excited to hear what he had to say about the issues and to think he has young kids, etc., etc., but the more I have researched (just facts with proof), I have decided that I cannot vote for this man.  He is not who I believe will take America forward.  His policies most definitely I don't agree with but I cannot accept a man whose character is questionable. 

employees getting better benefits when the union employees do.  My husband works for the state and although he is not union eligible (middle management), his work class follows the same policy as the union employees.  If the union employees get a raise or a benefit change, he gets the same. 

My husband, however, is not protected by the union should any situations arise.  I call him a "tagalong".

thank you for your many insightful posts on this board during this whole election process.  Your posts along with sam's posts have very accurately paralleled the glaring differences between these two candidates, yours being ones of depth of knowledge, integrity, tolerance and a true desire for change for the better, whereas, the other one's posts have been largely based on garbage gleaned from questionable websites, blogs and other biased sources that have accomplished nothing other than to incite hatred and intolerance in support of a candidate who has based his whole campaign on filthy lies and evil smear tactics in pathetic attempts to discredit his opponent who has risen above this display of low-down politics.

So, my hat's off to you, Gourdpainter, for setting an exemplary example for all of us to aspire to!!  

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Just kidding...  But I like the way you post.  I've found you far more interesting than any others on this board that use monikers.  I don't use a moniker because I don't feel the need to, but I also agree to please let this man have some dignity while he mourns his grandmother. 

No President will be able to make any changes overnight.  The President is only as smart as the people around him.

Obama has stated again and again that it will not be easy but that we all must come together.  I have not heard that once from the RNC, but only comments to bash a man because he may have a few beliefs that are different.  He has a beautiful family (without all of the skeletons) and he does not plan for Americans to lose jobs but rather to make more jobs here and give tax credits to companies who hire people right here in the USA.  He does have 2 daughters that will need an education and to prosper on American soil; does anyone not see that or is it just me?