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Great Britain has been so "open minded" they now

Posted By: sm on 2009-06-22
In Reply to: Tongue firmly in cheek during that post.... - watcher

have an out of control Muslim population. The neighborhoods have become so violent, the police won't even venture into the neighborhoods! They're trying to run the european contry.... GB is now trying to curtail anymore Muslims from coming into the country and that is why the "black list" started in the first place. I say GOOD FOR THEM! They are sick and tired of others trying to control their govt and people....same thing is happening in this country!


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leftie and "open mind". LOL. yeah, right.
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Most of those in politics in Britain know EXACTLY
and it had nothing to do with what he says; it had EVERYTHING to do with being politically correct. Due to the extreme muslim violence in that country, Jacqui Smith was supposed to compile a list of muslim extremists and inciters of violence in order for great britain to keep them OUT of the country. They have an out of control muslim community as it is now, so much so that police will not even go into the neighborhoods. Great Britain is wishing now they had closed their doors to muslims a looong time ago. When they let in moderate muslims, they let in the radicals as well and those radicals have spent all their time openly spewing hate for the British and Americans, while standing on British streets....inciting ALL muslims to go out and KILL british and american troops, which is the same as kill british and americans..... period! Lets not pretend we don't know what they really mean.

So, in order to look PC, they were so afraid to seem as if they were "profiling", which is exactly what they should be doing, they threw in a couple of white guys from the U.S. just to keep things fair and even..so lame!!

Too bad they forgot to add the black guy, Rev. Wright, the all time inciter of hate and violence..........
Britain to pull troops from Iraq as Blair says 'don't force me out' sm-long article
Britain to pull troops from Iraq as Blair says 'don't force me out'

· Defence Secretary confident withdrawal will start in May
· Plan follows pressure for exit strategy


Peter Beaumont and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday September 25, 2005
The Observer



British troops will start a major withdrawal from Iraq next May under detailed plans on military disengagement to be published next month, The Observer can reveal.

The document being drawn up by the British government and the US will be presented to the Iraqi parliament in October and will spark fresh controversy over how long British troops will stay in the country. Tony Blair hopes that, despite continuing and widespread violence in Iraq, the move will show that there is progress following the conflict of 2003.

Britain has already privately informed Japan - which also has troops in Iraq - of its plans to begin withdrawing from southern Iraq in May, a move that officials in Tokyo say would make it impossible for their own 550 soldiers to remain.

The increasingly rapid pace of planning for British military disengagement has been revealed on the eve of the Labour Party conference, which will see renewed demands for a deadline for withdrawal. It is hoped that a clearer strategy on Iraq will quieten critics who say that the government will not be able to 'move on' until Blair quits. Yesterday, about 10,000 people demonstrated against the army's continued presence in the country.

Speaking to The Observer this weekend, the Defence Secretary, John Reid, insisted that the agreement being drawn up with Iraqi officials was contingent on the continuing political process, although he said he was still optimistic British troops would begin returning home by early summer.

'The two things I want to insist about the timetable is that it is not an event but a process, and that it will be a process that takes place at different speeds in different parts of the country. I have said before that I believe that it could begin in some parts of the country as early as next July. It is not a deadline, but it is where we might be and I honestly still believe we could have the conditions to begin handover. I don't see any reason to change my view.

'But if circumstances change I have no shame in revising my estimates.'

The disclosures follow rising demands for the government to establish a clearer strategy for bringing troops home following the kidnapping of two British SAS troopers in Basra and the scenes of violence that surrounded their rescue. Last week Blair's own envoy to Iraq, Sir Jeremy Greenstock, warned that Britain could be forced out if Iraq descends so far into chaos that 'we don't have any reasonable prospect of holding it together'.

Continued tension between the Iraqi police force, the Iraqi administration and British troops was revealed again yesterday when an Iraqi magistrate called for the arrest of the two British special forces soldiers. who were on a surveillance mission when they were taken into custody by Iraqi police and allegedly handed on to a militia.

For Blair, the question of withdrawal is one of the most difficult he is facing. The Prime Minister has abandoned plans, announced last February, to publish his own exit strategy setting out the milestones which would have to be met before quitting: instead, the plans are now being negotiated between a commission representing the Shia-dominated Iraqi government, and senior US and UK diplomats and military commanders in Baghdad.

Senior military sources have told The Observer that the document will lay out a point-by-point 'road map' for military disengagement by multinational forces, the first steps of which could be put in place soon after December's nationwide elections.

Each stage of the withdrawal would be locally judged on regional improvements in stability, with units being withdrawn as Iraqi units are deemed capable of taking over. Officials familiar with the negotiations said that conditions for withdrawal would not demand a complete cessation of insurgent violence, or the end of al-Qaeda atrocities.

According to the agreement under negotiation, each phase would be triggered when key security, stability and political targets have been reached. The phased withdrawal strategy - the British side of which is expected to take at least 12 months to complete - would see UK troops hand over command responsibility for security to senior Iraqi officers, while remaining in support as a reserve force.

In the second phase British Warriors and other armoured vehicles would be removed from daily patrols, before a complete withdrawal of British forces to barracks.

The final phase - departure of units - would follow a period of months where Iraqi units had demonstrated their ability to deal with violence in their areas of operation.

Blair will tackle his critics over Iraq in his conference speech, aides said this weekend, but would decline to give a public deadline for withdrawing troops. He is expected to make several major interventions on the war in the coming weeks, before a vote on the new constitution in mid-October, explaining how Iraq could be steered towards a sufficiently stable situation to allow troops to come home.

'What we are not going to set out is a timetable: what we are going to set out is a process of developing that security capability,' said a Downing Street source. 'We don't want to be there any longer than we have to be, the Iraqis don't want us to be there any longer than we have to be, but the Iraqi Prime Minister has made it very clear that our presence there is one that is necessary.'

It was revealed yesterday that an Iraqi judge issued the warrants for the arrest of the two rescued soldiers, accusing them of killing one policeman and wounding another, carrying unlicensed weapons and holding false identification.

The continuing preparations for a military withdrawal come, however, as officials are bracing themselves for a new political crisis in Iraq next month, with what many regard as the inevitable rejection of a new constitution by a two-thirds majority in three provinces, sufficient to kill the document and trigger new elections.

The same officials believe that a failure of the controversial constitution - which Sunnis say favours the Shia majority - would require at least another year of political negotiations, threatening any plans to disengage.


Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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simple minded? Nah.
Nah, the simple minded and hateful are on the conservative board..you got the wrong board..sorry, sweet cakes..
I am open minded
but I'm also not gullible to anything that floats down the river either.
If you are as open-minded as you say you are
why does a countdown that millions of people are doing, whether its openly on a forum, or under their breath, nauseate you so much? Just like the 10-paragraph diatribe above someone launched in reply to the 2930 post, me thinks you doest protest too much. I mean, really, what is the harm in someone being excited and happy at the idea of a changing of the guard?
Are you that narrow-minded?
Are you so stuck on being "anti-religious" or amti-Christian or whatever that you don't realize everyone that opposes abortion is not a Christian?

Why is it if someone opposes abortion they MUST be Christian. If someone opposes abortion that has no religious beliefs, what do you call them? Maybe they just know murder when they see it?
Wow, you don't even know me and you have labeled me. How fair-minded of you.
Can you even see how silly you are?  Probably not. 
You aren't even open-minded enough to think about this...
He has already said he wants to practice redistribution of wealth (tax oil companies and give it back to people who did not earn it). That is Marxist theory. And now we have son of Alinsky high-fiving him in the Boston Globe. I am seeing stuff that I am still confirming that he taught the Alinsky theory. One thing alone, maybe not so alarming...but the preponderance of evidence....the jury is still out, but it does not look good.
comment from your like-minded friend
You know there are some who believe that this is not like the Great Depression, not like the civil war (with the hyperinflation) but actually more like the revolutionary war because of the violations of our constitution. I think it will be very interesting to see how many people will want to preserve it, sacrifice to preserve it, once they realize how threatened it is.
only the conservative, narrow-minded ones!
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That is the MOST narrow-minded post....
I have seen here. Got a mirror handy? :-)
Yes, that is close minded' and 'ignorant'..
Don't you see?
narrow minded? yup that is the O lovers
P.S. - last time someone was called stupid they were banned.

You don't like what I have to say fine. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself. No need to be rude - oh wait! Your an O lover. Guess you do feel you have the right to be rude.

As Ben Franklin said, which fits perfectly about your post, .... "Better to keep silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
More like narrow minded people
Without resorting to throwing out some silly retort.

Who says your way is the right way? That is why we live in AMERICA - we are FREE to make our own choices. It is not up to the government to watch your children. That is YOUR job. Their job is to uphold the Constitution OF the people BY the people...lest you forget!
Nor I with the cloistered and narrow-minded.
>>>>
No, I challenge you to show me mean, narrow minded,
shallow, pure hatred from the reps to the dems on this board.

I think you libbies have it won down pat. Same on other boards, not just this one.

And for that matter, show me anywhere, that same degree of "hatred" toward Obama, that is now being shown to Gov. Palin.

I don't mean mere dislike, or spoof of his lack of anything, either. I mean the hatred.

Republicans don't act that way. But if they have, please give me an example, please.
Typical closed-minded, my-way-or-the-highway,
(which means, "Waste of Our Time").
That is so narrow-minded and not true. You are so judgemental (sm)
apparently, you are the only non-racist, good person in the United States, aren't you? Take yourself off your pedestal. Many of us are just as kind-hearted and see race as a nonissue as you claim to be. Get off your high horse.
This poster is obviously simple minded and likes to
stir up trouble. Probably has never voted.
I hope you are not that small minded. You may quit your job
any time you like and apply for welfare and see if you get it.  Maybe, Bush will let you draw it now.
Actually, I find YOUR post closed-minded
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Only the open minded and forward thinking
There isn't anything he can do about narrow-minded, self-righteous divisionists. Obama has won over the educated majority of the entire world.
You've got to be kidding! How narrow-minded
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My mistake...I thought you only tolerated like-minded people....
hence Berkeley.
LOL! Ain't that the truth! "Fair minded"..."well-researched"...
I haven't seen one scintilla of anything that could properly be called 'research' in any of Just Terribly Bad Breath's posts.


Question....you tout yourself as open-minded and tolerant....
when are you going to start posting as such? Just curious. Not exactly tolerant and open-minded to make blanket statements about "pubs" when you certainly cannot POSSIBLY know or have talked to every single registered Republican in this country. And how do you know what political affiliation someone is? Do you decide based on how they feel about Barry from Chicago? I myself am registered Independent, and to quote from a post I have seen on this board before but which sums it up...because you have to register as something in this country to vote. I was a Republican once, but they have become Democrats lite. Yes, my politics would be considered conservative. I don't believe the Constitution is a "living" document. I believe is fine as the founders wrote it and not as the ACLU would like it to be re-written. I believe in God. I believe in a free country. I believe in capitalism. I believe in more power at the state level than the federal government level. To name a few. I certainly don't believe in socialism, in making people dependent upon the government for their every need. I believe in hard work as a means to bettering your situation, not handouts from the government paid for on the backs of those willing to work hard. To name just a few. What do YOU believe in besides Barry from Chicago?
Glad to see you are so open-minded and tolerant of diversity, as your party proclaims.
I am not set in my ways, I have embrace some of the liberal notions although not enough to vote that way say far, and welcome INTELLIGENT debate and discussion.  And I'm suppose to be from the party of intolerance and racism.  I think you should reread some of your posts and see who is intolerant.  I don't come here to poke fun at anybody on either side, I come here because I don't get much out of just agreeing with everybody, I like to hear different ideas and to debate the issues.  But, I guess I could find another liberal board where some mature people hang out and I might be welcome to do that, instead of just reading stupid childish jokes and laughing with each other. 
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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Sure is great
Yup, I love posting the truth about the white house monster.  Cant take it??  Well, I can remember some awful things the neocons said about President Clinton for eight years..What is good for the goose is good for the gander..
This is great!
Thanks for posting it.  I didn't see this one before.  I've only recently begun to watch his show and haven't been able to catch all of them. 
That's great! nm

This is great and I am going ...

to email this guy and tell him so.


http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/listingsEntry.asp?ID=432586&PT=McIntyre+in+the+Morning


These were great.
Thanks.  Too bad they're all true.
This was great!
Thanks for posting the link.  I liked it all but especially laughed at the terrorists loving Masterpiece Theater.  :-)
Yes, great. sm
She is speaking at an A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition meeting. You know about ANSWER, right?  About as anti-American as you can get.  Here's a little information.  Also, as Observor said, she is a racist and an antisemite.  Did you not see the video of her bodyguards, in her presence, race baiting Jews? 

Formed within three days of the September 11th attacks, and officially founded on September 14, 2001 by Ramsey Clark and members of the International Action Center, ANSWER was one of the first organizations formed to protest the policies of the Bush administration in the wake of the September 11 attacks. Its first major action was a September 29, 2001 Anti-War, Anti-Racist political rally and march in Washington, D.C., primarily in protest of the then-impending U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. Subsequently the organization has organized rallies drawing crowds in the hundreds of thousands, including several with record-setting numbers of people. ANSWER characterizes itself as anti-imperialist, and its steering committee consists of socialists, Marxists, civil rights advocates, and left-wing progressive organizations from the Muslim, Arab, Palestinian, Filipino, Haitian, and Latin American communities. Many of ANSWER's leaders were members of Workers World Party (WWP) at the time of ANSWER's founding, and are current members of the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL), a Marxist-Leninist organization that formed in 2004.


we know what a great

in-the-nation's-best-interests job the courts did on the Gore (Nobel prize winner) and Bush (failure in absolutely all business ventures) decision. Clarence still seeking revenge on Anita Hill.  Plus don't forget the Supreme Court justice who just happens to enjoy duck hunting with Cheney.  The guy with a cloud over his head according to Fitzgerald in the Plame case.  Pile in on.


 


 


This was great

First time in a long time I watched the news and I was pretty amused tonight.  Subject was Barack's trip to Berlin and his speech.  Republican representative said that Obama shouldn't have done it because he's not the president.  They were asked well what about McCain when he went and gave a speech in Canada.  Their response was "Well that was different.  They are Canadians".  He also said it was okay for McCain to give speech to Canadians because Canada is in North America.


When questioned further it actually came out that they (republicans) were upset because the Berlin speech made Obama look good, while McCains biggest highlight of the week was giving in interview in the dairy isle of the grocery store.


They tried to say that Barack was giving a "policy" speech, and when corrected they made up some other lame excuse (that's when it came out that they were upset because having all those people gather for his speech in Berlin made him look good).


Just goes to show you how desperate the republicans are.  They had their chance to pick a better candidate than some old lame, senile guy, but this is who they chose.  Now they are just mad because McCain is looking more feeble, constantly whines, and is constantly mis-speaking and getting the facts wrong (and having to be corrected in public by those closest to him).  Someone said that if he would just stick to issues and not try and attack/belittle Obama every chance he got it might go a little different for him.


I just thought that was quite amusing for a change in the news.


Great! :) nm
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Great pic thanks
That's excellent. She sure knows her weapons. Goes to show she knows and supports Ammendment 2 of the constitution - Right to bear arm. You go girl Governor Palin. Would she now be considered the new Governator. :-)
He was great. Wish he had been more like that...
during the primaries. I like Fred.
That would be great but we all know that

some people can't see beyond their nose and some people don't have the ability to weigh the facts of what is written.


FYI, I have finally made up my mind through reading.


She was great. Try though he did, he...
couldn't trip her up and it was to his obvious great frustration. She did a better job than Obama did with O'Reilly. lol. At least she didn't say she had to figure out which faction. lol.
i just think it's great :)
that we'll have either our first black pres or first female vp. I don't know why obama only sides w/ his black side, and I don't know why you have a problem with me thinking that it's great that for once we are going to have some diversity. Sheesh
These are great
These are great strategies. I can certainly understand why he should be president. I can't wait too vote!!!!! (sorry, I just couldn't resist!!)
Jon is great. sm
His facial expressions alone make me laugh. I became a fan after watching him confront Tucker Carlson during an interview. If I find that clip, I will post it. It is not comedy, but Jon tells it like it is.
And just look at the great welcome
received after their service to our country...I'm sure Kendra is thinking of this and wondering how many people are going to feel this way towards her own hero! You hang in there Kendra, you do have a hero and God bless you, your husband and your child!
Ain't that the great

thing about America?  You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine.


Religious beliefs aren't legislated in a society that claims to respect freedom of religion for all.  If a tourist or other person is murdered in the USA, of course that person is protected from the crime of murder, but reference was being made to the United States Constitution and the word "citizen" was used.  I was merely providing the definition of "citizen" as provided by the Constitution.


Again, the ultimate decision will be between a woman and her creator.  I'm willing to let God do his/her job.  Why aren't you?


This was great!
I'm still laughing!  Thanks for posting this.  It's nice to leave the computer with a smile on my face.  Hope you have a great day. 
What a great ad
Of course they wont run that.  What is wrong with it?  People have abortions every day, people vote so that it is legal, people protest for their right to do what they want with their body.  Given that, why cant we see a commercial about it?  My children have to watch Enzyte (spelling?) commercials and see sexual things on TV anytime they try to watch it.  So why not?  Because anything with an ounce of a moral behind it is exactly what most of society does not want to see.