Great minds think alike...I'll be watching as well.nm
Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-21
In Reply to: LOL! You beat me to it! - American Woman
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Great minds think alike! LOL ; )
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We are very alike
in our beliefs. I tell everyone I am "Southern Baptist by marriage" LOL
As we know in the end all nations will turn against us, that includes the good ol' USA too. We're in for some hard times, but it will be a blink of the eye compared to eternity with our Father.
All we can do is pray for those who don't know him and try to share with them. Like someone said (it might have been you) we can't force it on anyone, and I don't plan to. But given the chance to talk about my Savior, you better believe I will.
If someone died for you I would think it would be hard not to constantly talk about them. But I guess because it was 2000 years ago we shouldn't be just as thankful as if it was last week. Go figure.
All I can say is we better enjoy our "free speech" while we can! Pretty soon that'll be gone too!
We are alike in some ways - I agree with you totally.
Oh yeah, since I can't be sarcastic with DH here without it turning into a full blown battle, this is where I can be sarcastic. HA HA HA. Like you, if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't be here. And we have shown that you can be sarcastic without being disrespectful.
I have not always agreed with everything you said but have agreed with others things you say. So seeing as you share some of my viewpoints you can't be all that bad then. HA HA HA (just kidding).
Does Fox ever say anything nice or true or helpful to repubs and dems alike? nm
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Guess you fooled us. All dems sound alike these days on this board.
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Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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We do have minds of our own
I have a mind of my own. I listen to the politicians and decide who I feel is a better candidate for me. When you put Obama up against the other two candidates it isn't hard for me to decide who I want in the white house and as a representative of our country. Yes it's true that most politicians do lie and most politicians are crooks, but some are good. Not once in my lifetime has there been a candidate that's been for the middle class. They all say they are going to get rid of tax cuts for the most wealthiest but they don't (both sides are guilty). They all promise us everything and never deliver once they are in. I too am sick of crooked politicians, but I just don't get that feeling from Obama. Out of any of them I believe he will do the most good for the country and the citizens of the country. I like his ideas and his plans. I like his family and he's got a good sense of humor. There is no way I'll vote for McCain, and the Clintons should be in jail for half the stuff they've pulled in their careers (both of them).
While one side of me says to protest bad candidates and not vote, my conscience tells me I should vote for who I think would be the better candidate and would do the best job in there and have compassion for the middle class. Someone who is concerned and has the best plan about education, the economy, security at our borders, illegal immigration, health care, and the list goes on.
To say that everyone who votes for Obama is voting for him just because everyone else is voting for him is an insult to everyone who believes in him. So if you don't want to vote then don't. However, most of us do have a brain and can think for ourselves. What you said is just rude and insulting to us.
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Only in the minds of the
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A lot is on our minds
With this election, there's a lot on most people's minds right now and most are scared beyond words that can be expressed. As I sit here I seriously imagine what our country would be like with Obama as a president, after all polls are in his favor, right? so most assume he has already won. On a more uplifting note though the polls are now changing in McCains favor and that is hopeful for people like me and others who care so deeply to preserve this great country. As I sit and think what our country would be like if he gets in just really hits a nerve and is so frightening I'm glad a lot of my loved ones have passed on so they will not have to face what lies ahead if he gets in. Of course the liberals will come back with "give me a break" or "please", and they will not see this post the same as a lot of us do. And most will not even read this whole post, but will cut it down anyway without knowing the full content of it. But why don't you sit and imagine what the country would be like with McCain and you will understand what we feel with Obama (or maybe you won't). However, our fears are based on facts. The most important issues for me is is the safety of our country, our economy, and upholding our constitution and preserving the freedoms our founding father's risked their lives for. I'll attach a link at the end of this that describes what happened to them. But know this...they risked their lives and they were scared beyond words. If you ever watched the HBO series John Adams the actors portrayed those men very well, and the looks on their faces and what they must have felt when they were creating the Declaration is the same way I feel as I sit and think about an Obama presidency. It scares me beyond all imaginings. I think back to our founding father's and what they must have gone through to sign The Declaration. Here is a quote I found from an article which I will put the link below. The link is not a verification of anything, I just found it just a very interesting article and I wanted to pass it on. The article states (I'm copying and pasting so please forgive if the spacing or alignment is off):
So, on July 4th, 1776, our Continental Congress dared to declare that we 13 colonies, the United States of America, must be and are free and independent of King George. They knew that this was a treasonous act. They knew that signing the Declaration of Independence meant a death sentence for every one of them if they were caught.
Where did these 56 men get the courage to sign the Declaration of Independence? "
If Obama is elected (and we do not know yet if he will be), but if he is our lives will change dramatically (and not for the better). First and most importantly to me and others is that you will have the first president ever who was able to change the constitution to allow a person born on foreign soil to "rule" our country. But that should not surpirse a lot because Obama does not believe in the constitution. His words are "The constitution reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day". Then if by some chance we have all 3 branches of the government democrat, no doubt in many's mind is that he will change the constitution. Everything our founding fathers did to make this a free country for all will be gone. The truth about Obama is out for many to see, but many who have been mesmerized by his good looks and calming voice they have a hard time differentiating what is real from what Obama tells you what you want to hear.
So between him not being American born and refusing to provide proof, him refusing to release his medical records, his relationship ship with Ayers, Weather Underground, Wright (which I'm sure a lot of people don't know that Obama said in an interview that he went twice a month for 20 years, which meant that he sat through hate-filled sermons twice a month for 20 years and never got up and walked out), his redistribution of weath, his ties to radical muslims, receiving money for his campaign from the enemies who want us wiped off the planet, ACORN, voter fraud, buying votes, etc., etc., those are just a few of the many worries I think about when I imagine what it will be like if Obama gets in.
While I know most of the posters on this board are set in their minds on who they will vote for (or have already voted for), maybe there are a few that are just not quite sure. So while this post will not pursuade anyone for or against Obama it is just to express my fears (though no words can express the feelings).
Anyway...here are a couple good links I found below.
http://asburyerie.org/files/sermon%20written/Our%20Country,%20'Tis%20of%20Thee%20-%20July%206,%202008.doc
http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/obama-says-constitution-is-a-charter-of-negative-liberties/
http://keelynet.com/4th99.htm
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/update-update.html
He's probably trying to win the *hearts and minds*
of the Iranians........before he nukes 'em. 
No need to make up our minds.
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Everyone has already made up their minds
Why berate the point? There are no undecideds here.
You got that right...there is nothing you can say to change our minds!
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WOW! You read minds, too? sm
Amazing!!!!
I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10. C'mon, I know you can do this.
I think you underestimate the young minds...sm
Thought I'll agree the walkout probably was not for political reasons so much so as for what they believe is right. Do you think they probably have a lot of respect for this teacher? Maybe. It is possible to be passionate about something other than cutting class as a teenager. I know I was, and so is my daughter who just turned 13.
I also have to give you the point that the teacher should have stayed on the subject matter of the class. If you're hired to teach geography then teach geograpy BUT we don't have the privlege of seeing the course outlines, book, etc. It may not be so cut and dry as capitols, states, and what have you. So before you call for his head on a plank you should at least know that much. Whose to say that this course was not comingled with history and this teacher was within his right to bring up subjects to provoke thought. I don't see the problem with that.
Listening to the message in a whole, I don't see a problem in what the teacher said excpt that he may have deviated from the subject matter. And the fact still remains that we don't know the totality of the course description.
Okay....then let's just say neither of them are liars. They just changed their minds.
I'll go with that. My entire point is that you can't really call one of them a liar and say the other just "changed his/her mind."
And only those with completely closed minds would
Years ago, it might have seemed ridiculous and been dismissed as a conspiracy theory that there were terrorists living amongst us right here in the USA, learning how to fly our planes, and being groomed for YEARS to attack and kill us on 9/11. Based on that alone, I would not for one second put it past a crazed bunch to groom someone from birth to serve their purpose.
Things that make you go hmmmm....
No one is trying to change your closed minds...
we are discussing, just like you are. O, as you call him, is the candidate of change...right down the slippery slope further into socialism. That is change I DON'T believe in. No amount of spin on his part is going to change that fact.
People who use their minds to decide what they do
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Only in the minds of the deluded partisans
unable to justify McSame's own evil associations, the W being top of the heap.
I'll double that 'amen', and I'll raise you one!
amen
Tiny minds = easily boggled...nm
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He sure is, the far libbies minds kind of weed that out.
Closed minds don't get nourished and thus can't grow. nm
Truman and Johnson both had sharp minds.
They may not have been polished but they could think on their own and put an entire sentence together all on their own. Truman, I believe, said **The buck stops here.*** Being a war time president, he took full responsibility for what was going on on his watch for which he was much admired, here and abroad. Johnson gave us civil rights. I did not much like Johnson personally but I admired what he did. He said **I have just given the south to the Republicans** when he signed civil rights into law, but, he had the courage of his convictions and did the right thing, control or no control, votes or no votes. I cannot say the same about the current administration. To them the buck stops anywhere but with them and they would do ANYTHING to keep their party in control, sacrifice a few seats here and there in order to do the right thing, not in this lifetime, not if it means losing control.
Interesting you should mention 2 Democrats as unpolished but (I assume) decent presidents.
It IS important that our president can express himself well. We as a nation look more and more weakened because our leader does not read and cannot produce a complete sentence to save his soul; and he was elected to be OUR president and the leader of the free world. What does that say about all of us. The more situations deteriorate the more inarticulate he becomes. America has always been the mediator in the Middle East but this time, the Italians and the French OMG showed up first. Norway and Greece were the first on the scene to move Americans out of Lebanon. When asked if they were surprised that the first to show up were not Americans, the Americans in Lebanon said ***NO, I mean, look at Katrina. We thought we would be here a long long time.*** I know that many on the right don't care what the world thinks of us but I do and I think it is always best to have allies. This administration just burns bridges. Scary Scary Stuff.
I agree. I do not post to change minds that...
cannot be changed. However, a lot of people come here to read and never post, and I think people should see both sides of an issue posted. You can't make an informed decision with only one side of things...or you shouldn't. That is what America is about. Thanks for your post!
In other words, they speak their minds like Keith
and every other idjit liberal news outlet out there? What's the big deal. CNN sent out a whacko nutjob reporter who provoked and harrassed and accused protestors who were just minding their business. Don't see you on here ranting about that.....
Involving is one thing....not allowing them to make up their own minds...
is quite another. Called indoctrination. It worked on you, I have to admit.
Americans have lost their minds or just dont care.
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You mean, it's impossible to change intelligent people's minds!
You can call us what you want; however, intelligent people are not fazed by the comments of those who live in fear and enjoy wallowing in their own misery.
Yes, I agree, let's try a juicier subject, as the political minds
of the Republicans showed to be confined to a CAGE.
Maybe in this subject they have more experience and can contribute better.
Look, I offered to leave once and gt asked me to stay. So which is it? Make up your minds. SM
You all are doing plenty of bashing on the conservative board right now, but that probably isn't YOU. wink wink nod nod.. I don't want to destroy the collective consciousness that is putting our soldiers lives at risk so I'll leave, but only cuz you asked so nice.
Look I offered to leave and gt asked me to stay. Make up your minds. nm
Simple minds, shriveled old souls who get their jollies stirring up muck.
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Oh. Well, they'll have to kill me before they'll censor
We'll see who'll be laughing tomorrow.
Bet it's me!
Great, great post. Thank you, Marmann! nm
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What's even more amusing is watching
your political ideology die a slow painful death.
I didn't post the original article not that you would believe me. As far as the rest of your rant I don't give a flip...and that's putting mildly.
like watching bullies get theirs
I kind of like to watch bullies get theirs and Delay's history for the past 21 years in DC is that of a bully..the *hammer* as his nickname is. Kind of like karma..what goes around comes around eventually. Same thing with Rove, well known to spread lies and participating in extremely dirty politics..he just might get his now with the leak investigation.
If you think the government isn't watching you...think again.
Pay too much and you could raise the alarm
By BOB KERR
The Providence Journal
28-FEB-06
PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- Walter Soehnge is a retired Texas schoolteacher who traveled north with his wife, Deana, saw summer change to fall in Rhode Island and decided this was a place to stay for a while.
So the Soehnges live in Scituate now and Walter sometimes has breakfast at the Gentleman Farmer in Scituate Village, where he has passed the test and become a regular despite an accent that is definitely not local.
And it was there, at his usual table last week, that he told me that he was madder than a panther with kerosene on his tail.
He says things like that. Texas does leave its mark on a man.
What got him so upset might seem trivial to some people who have learned to accept small infringements on their freedom as just part of the way things are in this age of terror-fed paranoia. It's that everything changed after 9/11 thing.
But not Walter.
We're a product of the '60s, he said. We believe government should be way away from us in that regard.
He was referring to the recent decision by him and his wife to be responsible, to do the kind of thing that just about anyone would say makes good, solid financial sense.
They paid down some debt. The balance on their JCPenney Platinum MasterCard had gotten to an unhealthy level. So they sent in a large payment, a check for $6,522.
And an alarm went off. A red flag went up. The Soehnges' behavior was found questionable.
And all they did was pay down their debt. They didn't call a suspected terrorist on their cell phone. They didn't try to sneak a machine gun through customs.
They just paid a hefty chunk of their credit card balance. And they learned how frighteningly wide the net of suspicion has been cast.
After sending in the check, they checked online to see if their account had been duly credited. They learned that the check had arrived, but the amount available for credit on their account hadn't changed.
So Deana Soehnge called the credit-card company. Then Walter called.
When you mess with my money, I want to know why, he said.
They both learned the same astounding piece of information about the little things that can set the threat sensors to beeping and blinking.
They were told, as they moved up the managerial ladder at the call center, that the amount they had sent in was much larger than their normal monthly payment. And if the increase hits a certain percentage higher than that normal payment, Homeland Security has to be notified. And the money doesn't move until the threat alert is lifted.
Walter called television stations, the American Civil Liberties Union and me. And he went on the Internet to see what he could learn. He learned about changes in something called the Bank Privacy Act.
The more I'm on, the scarier it gets, he said. It's scary how easily someone in Homeland Security can get permission to spy.
Eventually, his and his wife's money was freed up. The Soehnges were apparently found not to be promoting global terrorism under the guise of paying a credit-card bill. They never did learn how a large credit card payment can pose a security threat.
But the experience has been a reminder that a small piece of privacy has been surrendered. Walter Soehnge, who says he holds solid, middle-of-the-road American beliefs, worries about rights being lost.
If it can happen to me, it can happen to others, he said.
(Bob Kerr is a columnist for The Providence Journal. E-mail bkerr@projo.com.)
(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, www.shns.com.)
I think you have been watching too may movies,
they don't have to kill anyone to get those.
Unlike you, I have been watching Fox along with CNN...
so I have seen the good things happening along with the bad. The surge is exactly what scaled down the violence in Baghdad. Anyone with half a brain knows that...unless you think it was miraculously coincidental that the surge and decline in violence happened at the same time. Now who is trying to oversimplify?
You totally disregarding the glaring point here. Knowing Murtha's history, knowing the outlandish and horrifying things he has said over and over about the soldiers and the war, that the words "surge is working" would even pass his lips should be indicative, because it must be a BIG difference between the time he was there before and this time or he would not have said anything. What on earth could he possibly have to gain by lying about it? The main has a military background; he should certainly be able to tell the difference. Yes, I find that encouraging, but I have been watching the news and where we used to hear about a roadside bombing every day we don't anymore. Where we used to hear about car bombs every day we don't anymore, even on CNN, because they can't report them if they aren't happening, even they are not that deviant. Things HAVE changed, whether you want to admit it or not.
The intent of my post was to show that there are some Democrats (even the most left ones as Murtha is) who are having to admit that it is working. To quote you again, anyone with half a brain would see that it is. And if you would watch Fox once in awhile, you would see the troops being interviewed, you would see Iraqis being interviewed, and you would see that there is light at the end of the tunnel. But, of course, you probably think you would go blind if you turned on that channel (or they are doing it with actors on a sound stage in Burbank...LOL).
Again, we agree to disagree. I prefer the optimistic view, you prefer the pessimistic. I believe what I saw this morning with people moving freely again, talking positively about the future again (Iraqis), thanking soldiers for help and protection and inviting them into their homes for meals...to me that is a very positive sign.
By the way, I read another article regarding Murtha and he is still for pulling the troops out immediately, even though the surge is working. But he also admitted that he had visited with the many Pennsylvania-based soldiers there (his constituents) and that they believed in their mission and that they felt the surge was working. Not that you believe a word he says or that I say. I prefer to believe them. They are over there. We are not.
Did anybody think they were watching an episode
was speaking?
Seriously they should make an episode from that. It would be HILlarious
and you really think by watching the mainstream..
media, MSNC (Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann), Air America and the like YOU are getting the whole picture? Admit it, you just want to hear what agrees with your point of view and nothing else. At least admit the bias.
I do watch CNN, I watch MSNBC until Matthews and Olbermann come on because all you get to hear with those two is what THEY think and they don't even attempt to hide their bias. Laughable really. At least Fox does have a Dem and a Repub at the same time, which is more than I can say for most of the others. And I don't watch Fox exclusively and have heard Limbaugh maybe once or twice, because he is almost as obnoxious as Olbermann sometimes. Can't stand that ego thing on EITHER side. Trouble is...I can see that. Those folks with a Fox and Limbaugh fixation can't see the same problems on the Dem side...namely Matthews and Olbermann. Wonder why that is??
It should be about the people. Watching
the different speakers last night, I was really proud of Barney Smith. Barney said he wanted a candidate that would put "Barney Smith first, not Smith Barney." He brought down the house. It's time for the American people to get the consideration we deserve from our government. The Bush administration owes us an apology. I absolutely refuse to have more of the same. It is time for a President who cares about the people.
come on..have you been watching the news?
to vote for Obama just because Hillary won. This is just one more reason for them to vote for her. Ignorant voters in large numbers are dangerous, just look at what the last 8 years has gotten us...
I have been watching closely, too.
The whole MSNBC crew was out of sorts on the night Barack gave his speech. It was like they were star struck. The night before I couldn't help but notice the MSNBC camera man all over the place, zooming in on the oddest thing; it was so bad, I switched to CNN and Wolfe. Read later that a rumor about drugs was going around. Maybe someone drugged their drinks. I have watched these guys for years and this is the strangest I have seen them. They looked unfrazzled and were disagreeable with each other. With regard to Maher, I like noncomformists -he is a smart guy and so far, what he has been alluding to has all come true with regard to GOP, as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.
If you are watching the coverage you know much is being done...
okay, you don't believe in prayer. Couldn't you at least say you hope they will be okay? There is only so much men can do...we are talking a huge storm on a town below sea level.
What a nasty attitude.
Good, I think we should all be watching. It is in ,,sm
our best interest to do so. I am in constant contact with my senators and respresentives and express how I feel. We all need to be proactive.
Must have been watching a different interview than the...
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