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Posted By: American Woman on 2005-08-24
In Reply to: Colin Powell would get voted in in a heartbeat if he ran. - Democrat

I agree. I think he'd win by a landslide, and America would finally have a President with some dignity.  Oh, to dream!! 


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Powell

He was never anything but a Dem in my book.  Notice that it was that nasty, ole' George Bush who was the first prez to put a black into such a high level in his cabinet.  And also Condi Rice...  But Bush is way too lib for me, anyway.  But he's right on things I consider important.


I find it amazing that the Dems will defend their party no matter what the scandal, but the Republicans don't.  Rmemeber Mark Foley?  Gone!  His replacement:  3rd mistress, I believe?  How about Ted Stevens?  He needs to GO, and is Republican.  Clinton cheating on Hillary all the time?  I wouldn't condone that from any of them. 


That's my point, and it's the truth.  The politicians work for US, remember?


The show and Powell

I thought the show was wonderful and illustrated very clearly how bits and pieces of intelligence were selected and manipulated and turned into something they weren't.  (They referred to it as a "Chinese menu" that the administration used to pick and choose from.)


I taped this show and watched it a couple times.  As far as Powell is concerned, it did show how Powell's relationship with George Tenet began to disintegrate.


It further showed how Tenet was, at Bush's father's urging, kept as CIA director when Dubya took office, and all the events leading to his resignation.  He was one of Dubya's sacrifical lambs.  I guess Bush thought giving him the Medal of Freedom made up for that.


Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell's chief of staff, said that Powell told him, "I wonder how we'll all feel if we put half a million troops into Iraq and march from one corner of the country to the other and find nothing."


Powell said, "I will forever be known as the one who made the case. I have to live with that."  (That made me feel really bad for Powell, who I have always trusted and considered to be an honest, ethical man.  His association with Bush really dragged him down, and his statement about having to live with that just tells me that he's still an honest, ethical man, the kind of man who had a spectacular military career, actually had the guts to go fight in wars himself, someone who truly IS Presidential material, someone who doesn't belong in an underhanded, lying, foolish administration like Bush's.)


The show also pointed out how if you are someone who works for this president and you discover something not right or in alignment with his "plans," if you tell him, you'd better be prepared to resign or be fired. 


This show clearly illustrated how Bush wanted to go to war with Iraq, and all he needed was a reason, even if he had to invent a fictional one.


Again, I thought it was an excellent show, and if you ever have the opportunity to watch it or obtain a transcript of it, I would highly recommend it.


same with Colin Powell

It is easy to see that he is heart-sick that his years of service to our nation were in vain because he was pressured into making those untrue statements to Congress.  It is big, sick, industrial machine ruining lives everywhere it plants its massive cloven hoof.


 


I always admired Powell
There are some people you admire even if their politics are different and it's because they appear to have integrity.  That's what the frothing right-winger(s) on this board don't understand.  It's more about integrity than political affiliation for some of us.  And that's why so many folks don't care for Bush - he had a life-long history of lacking integrity and being publicly mean and petty at times. 
what about Colin Powell as VP?
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Come to think of it, Colin Powell might be the
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You got that right. Colon Powell could have
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If he had chosen Powell...
all we would be hearing is about how Powell went to the UN and "lied" about the "faulty intelligence" that took us into Iraq. Powell has said that no one lied and it was indeed faulty intelligence and he believed it too...and the same people who are here lauding Powell since he endorsed Obama probably are the same ones who said Bush lied men died. Opinions are based totally on what side of the political fence someone is presently standing on. LOL. Sigh.
Here's a few more republicans besides Powell
1. William Buckley, III
2. Susan Eisenhower
3. Julie Nixon Eisenhower
4. US Senator Lincoln Chaffee (R-Rhode Island)
5. Former Rep Jim Leach (R-Iowa)
6. Former Bush White House intelligence advisor Rita E. Hauser
7. Governor Linwood Holton (R-Virginia)
8. Former LA Mayor Richard Riordan (R)
9. Bill Ruckelshaus, appointed first chief of the EPA in 1970 by President Nixon, appointed acting director of the FBI in 1973 and later named deputy U.S. attorney general. He resigned rather than obey an order from Nixon to fire the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In 1983, Ruckelshaus was appointed interim director of the EPA by President Reagan.
10. Douglas Kmiec, co-chairman of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign’s Committee for the Courts and the Constitution; worked in the Reagan Justice Department.
11. Mayor Ed Koch of New York, formerally endorsed Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Mayor, AL D’Amato for U.S. Senate, George Pataki for Governor, and, in 2004, George W. Bush for President of the United States.
12. Retired four-star Air Force General Merrill “Tony” McPeak, served in the Air Force for 35 years. Former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, served as co-chairman of Oregon Veterans for Bush something he would later call an enormous mistake.
13. Donald Capoccia Vice Chair, US Commission of Fine Arts
14. Jackson M. Andrews, Republican Counsel to the U.S. Senate. Republican nominee, U.S. Senate from Kentucky.
15. John Martin, Founder of RepublicansForObama.org
16. Richard J. Schwartz, Chairman, New York State Council on the Arts
17. Todd Garrett, retired Senior VP and CIO of the Procter & Gamble Company
18. Richard B. Stewart, Assistant Attorney General for Environment and Natural Resources
19. Jim Whitaker, Fairbanks, Alaska Mayor
20. Ambassador Thomas Graham Jr., Executive Chairman of Thorium Power Ltd.

Collin Powell........sm
has been hoodwinked, just like so much of America who has put on the blinders when Obama is the subject for discussion. I don't believe that Powell is necessarily a fool, but I do believe he has been fooled.


If it was McCain and Col. Powell
I would have probably voted for Powell. If it was McCain and Rice, I probably would have voted for Rice. But Obama? WHO IS HE, REALLY! I know nothing about him. I do not trust him at all, ESPECIALLY since now our new treasury guy is in office. Soooo, can I use Turbo tax and kinda of fudge my taxes and not pay for some things and then state, "Oh, I am sorry, I guess I do not know how to use Turbo Tax." You know it and I know it that I would be thrown in jail. But this? A guy who is now running our treasury department? There are higher ups now, newscasters, Jim Cramer on Mad Money and so many others who are not pleased with the new treasury guy let alone Obama's stimulus package. I even heard almost half the Democrats, are not to thrilled with his stimulus package.

Nope, DO NOT trust our new president at all. I wish we could have had future presidents take a mental exam. Sorry, I really, REALLY wanted our new president to the best for this country. We are all in the same boat, but I choose not to sink in the same boat.
If McCain had chosen Powell for VP...sm
the race would be a LOT closer right now. Stupid choice John.
Was that before or after General Colin Powell
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I don't look to Colin Powell as my "leader"
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And let us not forget....Colin Powell....
believed that same "bad" intelligence and went before the UN to sell it to the world. Surely they do not consider Colin Powell an imbicele...the same Colin Powell who endorsed Barack Obama? Surely NOT. Sighhhhh. So did the senate foreign relations committee, lots of Democrats. Our VP elect also voted for the war resolution. But that is conveniently forgotten in the rip Bush apart effort. These same people who preach unity. Sighhhh.
Colin Powell would get voted in in a heartbeat if he ran.
He would have democratic and republican support.

I wish he would run too!
You must be thrilled that C. Powell has relegated SP's SNL flop
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IMHO Colin Powell isn't a puppet.

Colin Powell interview on Obama
Beautifully stated. See link.
Exactly. The real Obama himself. I thought Powell
was to be picked for something by Obama since Powell endorsed Obama.  Waiting to see where Oprah fits in this too.  Already picking shady characters for his team and more liberals.  Partisanship, my ....
I doubt Colin Powell would ever speak out against this admin.
It's not in his nature to be a whistle blower.

I will say though I have ALWAYS admired him, before he joined the Bush admin. I had great respect for him; in fact, when I learned that he was a republican I was surprised. I felt we had a lot in common politically. While I am a democrat, I consider myself an independent thinker and do not always vote a straight democratic ticket.

I still had respect for him though as sec of state in Bush's admin. It did turn my stomach though when he made the case for this war, I felt he was either being lied to and was falling for it or felt he had to support it because of his political affiliation.

If you've ever heard him speak publically, he's very down to earth and nonpolitical in his nature. Much to be admired still in this man.
Powell WMD speech 'lowest point in my life'

Former aide: Powell WMD speech 'lowest point in my life'






Tuesday, August 23, 2005; Posted: 10:44 a.m. EDT (14:44 GMT)






 
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell presents the case that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in 2003.

(CNN) -- A former top aide to Colin Powell says his involvement in the former secretary of state's presentation to the United Nations on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was "the lowest point" in his life.


"I wish I had not been involved in it," says Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, a longtime Powell adviser who served as his chief of staff from 2002 through 2005. "I look back on it, and I still say it was the lowest point in my life."


Wilkerson is one of several insiders interviewed for the CNN Presents documentary "Dead Wrong -- Inside an Intelligence Meltdown." The program pieced together the events leading up to the mistaken WMD intelligence that was presented to the public. A presidential commission that investigated the pre-war WMD intelligence found much of it to be "dead wrong."


Powell's speech, delivered on February 5, 2003, made the case for the war by presenting U.S. intelligence that purported to prove that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Wilkerson says the information in Powell's presentation initially came from a document he described as "sort of a Chinese menu" that was provided by the White House.


"(Powell) came through the door ... and he had in his hands a sheaf of papers, and he said, 'This is what I've got to present at the United Nations according to the White House, and you need to look at it,'" Wilkerson says in the program. "It was anything but an intelligence document. It was, as some people characterized it later, sort of a Chinese menu from which you could pick and choose."


Wilkerson and Powell spent four days and nights in a CIA conference room with then-Director George Tenet and other top officials trying to ensure the accuracy of the presentation, Wilkerson says.


"There was no way the Secretary of State was going to read off a script about serious matters of intelligence that could lead to war when the script was basically un-sourced," Wilkerson says.


In one dramatic accusation in his speech, Powell showed slides alleging that Saddam had bioweapons labs mounted on trucks that would be almost impossible to find.


"In fact, Secretary Powell was not told that one of the sources he was given as a source of this information had indeed been flagged by the Defense Intelligence Agency as a liar, a fabricator," says David Kay, who served as the CIA's chief weapons inspector in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. That source, an Iraqi defector who had never been debriefed by the CIA, was known within the intelligence community as "Curveball."


After searching Iraq for several months across the summer of 2003, Kay began e-mailing Tenet to tell him the WMD evidence was falling apart. At one point, Wilkerson says, Tenet called Powell to tell him the claims about mobile bioweapons labs were apparently not true.


"George actually did call the Secretary, and said, 'I'm really sorry to have to tell you. We don't believe there were any mobile labs for making biological weapons,'" Wilkerson says in the documentary. "This was the third or fourth telephone call. And I think it's fair to say the Secretary and Mr. Tenet, at that point, ceased being close. I mean, you can be sincere and you can be honest and you can believe what you're telling the Secretary. But three or four times on substantive issues like that? It's difficult to maintain any warm feelings."


Colon Powell endorses Barak Obama. nm
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Colin Powell....closet democrat...no surprise there...nm

What part of "I am republican first and foremost" (Colin Powell)
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What makes you think Colin Powell would want to be on the McCain ticket?
Colin Powell decided not to run for President of the United States several years ago. Why on earth would he accept an offer to run for Vice President on the McCain ticket? In addition, Powell has adamantly denounced the despicable smear tactics used by the McCain campaign recently.

I find it laughable how quickly the right-wing wackos turn against anyone who makes an educated decision to support Obama.
I prefer watching re-runs of Colin Powell's
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Here we have a fringe flock constituent accusing Colin Powell
with a straight face and seriously expecting us to buy into this psycho-babble. The only people you are scaring with this trash is each other.
I agree. This is the exact reason why Colin Powell wouldn't run..sm
He didn't want his privacy or his entire family's personal life to be dug up and exploited by the media. He got a lot of respect from me when he chose to protect what was the most important to him...family.
Bush inherited Powell from Clinton who inherited him from Reagan.
Bush wouldn't have had the sense to pick Powell all by himself. Have you heard the latest on Condi? She's been palling around with senior Hamas leaders, sending them thank you notes and such.

Here's how that other thing works. When the fringers stop lying, dems stop denying. It's not that complicated.