Have we already forgotten about Reverend Wrong
Posted By: sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: Hey, the hate has come from both sides. - sm
and his 20-year relationship with Obama, hatred of whites, and conspiracy that HIV by the government was invented to kill blacks?? Behind closed doors....these rallies have been going on for years now. Open up your ears.
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Obama and Reverend Wright.
You know what really amazes me is that some news anchormen on MS NBC seem to defend Jeremy Wright's statements. They say that the older generation is sometimes politically incorrect and have relatives in their own families (white people), who have made really awful statements and racist remarks. One I believe was Keith Oberman (sp?) on MS NBC who claimed that his grandfather did not like a black baseball player (Willie Mayes I think) just because of his color. He seemed to justify Wright's racist type sermons. I really don't understand this kind of logic, but that is what they are saying on MS NBC. Even Matthews who really surprised me seemed to make light of Wright's sermon. Are we to just make light of this and say, well they are from the older generation and they don't know any better. I think not!!!!! This to me is very alarming to justify these racist remarks. What if a White Supremacist went on air and said the same thing about their race -- I seriously doubt that anyone would say, "Well, that is OK they they didn't mean it"
Am I way off base in my thinking or does anyone out there agree with me? I am just shocked by some people's opinions and ideas.
Suzanne
What about his reverend? Did you listen to him? No one made that up (nm)
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Go ahead. Let's bring Reverend Wright back into the conversation...
and Jesse Jacksin (hymietown) and Louis Farrakhan...yeah, let's bring that back into the conversation. If Barack can claim he went to that church for 20 years but doesn't share the theology...so can she, right?
If you are going to fry her now, let's go back to Reverend Wright. You betcha!!
Has everyone forgotten?
Everyone needs to remember what was going on during the Clinton years. This article brings back memories of what was really happening. Has everyone forgotten this?
http://www.rense.com/general80/hopes.htm
Thank you - I had forgotten a lot
I forgot about all of that. While I do agree on all of it except two things. One - while I agree he had a 73% approval ratings I do not believe the impeachment was unsuccessful. You could actually think of that two ways - It was successful because he was impeached, but it was unsucceful because he was not removed from office (not sure if that's what you meant by unsuccesful). The other thing I don't agree with - and of course I could be wrong - I have been known to be wrong on an occasion or two in the past :-) but I do not believe we had a booming economy. Booming to whom? To the rich, to the politicians, to the lawyers, the CEOs, Clinton's friends who own mansions, to the people who got their money illegally and got to live in mansions while the hard working class slaved away and were meeting poverty level, losing their homes, their jobs, living in their cars and going hungry. I don't know of anyone during that administration that was doing very well (except CEOs and Clinton's close friends and millionaires). The rest of my family and friends struggled every day on an economy that was collapsing while we were being told by the rich democrats that the economy was "booming". Again, like I said - I could be wrong. If I'm wrong I'll admit it.
I do have to thank you for all the other points you brought up. I forgot about all of them.
You must have forgotten that W had only
4 years under his belt as the worst governor in the history of the State of Texas and had never even seen federal level office except when standing in daddy's and mommy's shadows. His biggest accomplishment in Texas was to give it a global reputation as the Gulag state. Sound familiar?
You know, I had forgotten about the old
commodities. And you are right, I think that would make a big difference on the food stamp program. I remember the large containers of peanut butter folks used to get, my DH used to call them *elbow scrapers* they were so deep! They were nutritious staple items. Even if the food stamp items would be limited to certain purchases, maybe.
The idea of this post was that Cyndiee was trying to come up with a solution. Instead of everyone trying to help her by making her suggestion better or finding other solutions, they began attacking her personal lifestyle, which has absolutely nothing to do this issue.
Oh, and BTW, the person who has come up with a plan where they will not not have to worry about buying shampoo or whatever, and still be able to save $600 per month, remember? They could virtually become a multi-millionaire by selling this plan, you know!!
And you have forgotten...(sm)
that Iraq had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 9-11.
And you have forgotten...(sm)
this thread is about waterboarding. Were the 3 terrorists who were waterboarded from Iraq? Your point is irrelevant to this thread.
So is your constant mention of revenge. None of the EITs that were used were ever intended to be any sort of *revenge.* That would be just trying to get some sort of pay-back for what they had done to us. We were trying get information from them that would thousands of American lives, information that they had already told that they knew.
Veterans Forgotten
McCAIN HAS NOT DELIVERED ON HIS PROMISES TO VETERANS
Union members respect Sen. John McCain’s service to our country. When will he start respecting ours? Although McCain talks about his support for veterans, he repeatedly votes against increased funding for veterans’ health care—and more. We call on John McCain to join us in supporting our veterans and working to turn around America.
McCAIN REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST VETERANS’ HEALTH BENEFITS
McCain Opposes the 21st Century GI Bill Because It Is Too Generous. McCain did not vote on the GI Bill that will provide better educational opportunities to veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, paying full tuition at in-state schools and living expenses for those who have served at least three years since the 9/11 attacks. McCain said he opposes the bill because he thinks the generous benefits would “encourage more people to leave the military.” (S.Amdt. 4803 to H.R. 2642, Vote 137, 5/22/08; Chattanooga Times Free Press, 6/2/08; Boston Globe, 5/23/08; ABCNews.com, 5/26/08)
McCain Voted Against Increased Funding for Veterans’ Health Care. Although McCain told voters at a campaign rally that improving veterans’ health care was his top domestic priority, he voted against increasing funding for veterans’ health care in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. (Greenville News, 12/12/2007; S.Amdt. 2745 to S.C.R. 95, Vote 40, 3/10/04; Senate S.C.R. 18, Vote 55, 3/16/05; S.Amdt. 3007 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 41, 3/14/06; H.R. 1591, Vote 126, 3/29/07)
Opposed an Assured Funding Stream for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain opposed providing an assured funding stream for veterans’ health care, taking into account annual changes in veterans’ population and inflation. (S.Amdt. 3141 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 63, 3/16/06)
McCain Voted Against Adding More Than $400 Million for Veterans’ Care. McCain was one of 13 Republicans to vote against providing an additional $430 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. (S.Amdt. 3642 to H.R. 4939, Vote 98, 4/26/06)
Voted Against Establishing a $1 Billion Trust Fund for Military Health Facilities. McCain voted against establishing a $1 billion trust fund to improve military health facilities by refusing to repeal tax cuts for those making more than $1 million a year. (S.Amdt. 2735 to S.Amdt. 2707 to H.R. 4297, Vote 7, 2/2/06)
McCain Opposed $500 Million for Counseling Services for Veterans with Mental Disorders. McCain voted against an amendment to appropriate $500 million annually from 2006-2010 for counseling, mental health and rehabilitation services for veterans diagnosed with mental illness, posttraumatic stress disorder or substance abuse. (S. 2020, S.Amdt. 2634, Vote 343, 11/17/05)
McCain Voted in Support of Disabled Veterans Only 25 Percent of the Time from 2004-2005. While McCain claims he “has been a leading advocate” for veterans with disabilities, statistics show he supported the Disabled American Veterans’ interests only 25 percent of the time in 2004-2005. In 2006, that figure slipped to 20 percent of the time. (Project Vote Smart)
McCain Voted Against Providing Automatic Cost-of-Living Adjustments to Veterans. McCain voted against providing automatic annual cost-ofliving adjustments for certain veterans’ benefits. (S. 869, Vote 259, 11/20/91)
INCLUDING BETTER ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FOR GUARD AND RESERVISTS
McCain Opposed Increasing Spending on TRICARE and Giving Greater Access to National Guard and Reservists. Although his campaign website devotes a large section to veterans issues, including expanding benefits for reservists and members of the National Guard, McCain voted against increasing spending on the TRICARE program by $20.3 billion over 10 years to give members of the National Guard and Reserves and their families greater access to the health care program. The increase would be offset by a reduction in tax cuts for the wealthy. (www.johnmccain.com/Informing/ Issues/9cb5d2aa-f237-464e-9cdf-a5ad32771b9f.htm; S.Amdt. 324 to S.C.R. 23, Vote 81, 3/25/03)
McCAIN ALSO VOTED TO OUTSOURCE JOBS AT MILITARY FACILITIES
McCain Supported Outsourcing VA Jobs. McCain opposed an amendment that would have prevented the Department of Veterans Affairs from outsourcing jobs, many held by blue-collar veterans, without first giving the workers a chance to compete. (S.Amdt. 2673 to H.R. 2642, Vote 315, 9/6/07)
He Also Supported Outsourcing at Walter Reed. McCain opposed an amendment to prevent the outsourcing of 350 federal employee jobs at Walter Reed Army Medical Center—outsourcing that contributed to the scandalous treatment of veterans at Walter Reed that McCain called a “disgrace.” (S.Amdt. 4895 to H.R. 5631, Vote 234, 9/6/06; Speech to VFW in Kansas City, Mo., 4/4/08)
AND HE REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST FUNDING FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT
2003: McCain Voted Against $122.7 Billion for Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain voted against an appropriations bill that included $122.7 billion in fiscal 2004 for the Department of Veterans Affairs, Housing and Urban Development and other related agencies. (H.R. 2861, Vote 449, 11/12/03)
2001: McCain Voted Against $51 Billion in Veterans Funding. McCain was one of five senators to vote against the bill and seven to vote against the conference report that provided $51.1 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs, as well as funding for the federal housing, environmental and emergency management agencies and NASA. (H.R. 2620, Vote 334, 11/8/01; Vote 269, 8/2/01)
2000: McCain Voted Against $47 Billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain was one of eight senators to vote against a bill that provided $47 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs. (H.R. 4635, Vote 272, 10/12/00)
1999: McCain Voted Against $44.3 Billion for Veterans Programs. McCain was one of five senators to vote against a bill providing $44.3 billion for the Department of Veterans Affairs, plus funding for other federal agencies. (H.R. 2684, Vote 328, 10/15/99)
1996: McCain Voted Against a $13 Billion Increase in Funding for Veterans Programs. McCain voted against an amendment to increase spending on veterans programs by $13 billion. (S.C.R. 57, Vote 115, 5/16/96)
1995: McCain Voted to Underfund Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain voted for an appropriations bill that underfunded the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development by $8.9 billion. (H.R. 2099, Vote 470, 9/27/95)
1995: McCain Voted Against Closing Tax Loopholes to Increase Veterans Funding by $74 Million. McCain voted against eliminating tax breaks and closing tax loopholes to provide revenue to restore some of the proposed cuts in Veterans Affairs spending. (S.C.R. 13, Vote 226, 5/25/95)
1994: McCain Voted Against Funding the Department of Veterans Affairs. McCain was one of nine senators to vote against appropriating $90 billion in budget authority for the Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development departments. (H.R. 4624, Vote 306, 9/27/94)
Geez, I had forgotten about that.....
sigh. Yet another reason Palin is better suited.
Has everyone forgotten what went on in Iraq
Ethnic cleansing and the mass murders. While not on the same scale as Hitler, Hussein was a mass murderer. What we are doing over there is good.
Haven't forgotten that, but...(sm)
I also haven't forgotten what Clinton did to try to go after terrorists and how Bush managed to put all that work on a shelf.
http://www.truthout.org/article/clinton-911-and-facts
Just think, while Clinton was trying to work on all this, all you guys could do was worry about where his peter was.
Forgotten the minute you took you last best shot.
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Yeah, and after 911, which I HAVENT forgotten,
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In case you've forgotten....
Congress/senate/house votes on bills and issues NOT the president. He is only a talking head. I am elated that we are going to finally have a wonderful speaker, but you have to remember...the president is not the person who makes the decisions and votes on issues. Congress does. So while I am glad Obama will be the talking head, he will not be the one making the decisions, just like Bush did not make the decisions. The presidents are nothing more than talking heads and whipping boys (or girls if a women was picked) to take the blame for things they don't do.
Oh, yeah. I had forgotten the other part
of the question, whether he deliberately wishes to harm America and Americans. Thanks for addressing this, and probably more nicely than I would have, because I am not entirely sure he does not intend to administer some serious ''payback'' to many of us for perceived past wrongs.
Does he wish to destroy the country? I don't think he necessarily sees it that way. But I do think he wants to remake it into something many of us will no longer recognize.
Forgotten Sacrifice...Good article...sm
Forgotten Sacrifice
By F. John Duresky
Wednesday, July 5, 2006; Page A13
A few days ago, as I do every day in Iraq, I listened to the commander's battle update. The briefer calmly and professionally described the day's events. Somewhere in Iraq, on some forgotten, dusty road, an insurgent fighting an occupying army detonated an improvised explosive device (IED) under a Humvee, killing an American soldier. The briefer fielded a question from the general and moved to the next item in the update.
The day before that, in America, a 15-year-old's incredibly rich parents planned the biggest sweet 16 party ever. They will spend more than $200,000 on an opulent event marking a single year in an otherwise unremarkable life. The soon-to-be-16 girl doesn't know where Iraq is and doesn't care. That same day an American soldier died in Iraq.
Two days earlier, a 35-year-old man went shopping for home entertainment equipment. He had the toughest time selecting the correct plasma screen; he could afford the biggest and best of everything. In the end, he had it installed by a specialty store. He spent about $50,000 on the whole system. He has never met anybody serving in the military nor served himself, but thinks we should turn the whole place into a parking lot. That day, another American soldier died in Iraq.
Three days earlier, some college students had a great kegger. There were tons of babes at the party, the music was awesome. Everybody got totally blitzed, and many missed class the next day. The young men all registered for the draft when they were 18, but even though our nation is at war, they aren't the least bit worried about the draft. It is politically impossible to conscript young people today, we are told. That day, another American volunteer died in Iraq.
Four days earlier, a harried housewife looked all over town for the perfect accessory for her daughter's upcoming recital. Her numerous chores wore her out, but she still found herself preoccupied. Her oldest son is having trouble in his first year of college, and he has been talking of enlisting in the Army. She is terrified that her child will go off to that horrible war she sees on TV. She and her husband decide to give their son more money so he doesn't have to work part-time; maybe that will help with his studies. That day, another soldier died.
Yesterday millions of Americans celebrated Independence Day. They attended parties and barbecues. Families came together from all across the country to celebrate the big day. Millions of dollars were spent on fireworks. At public events, there were speeches honoring the people who served and those who made the ultimate sacrifice. These words mostly fell on bored ears. While the country celebrated its own greatness, other Americans were still fighting in Iraq.
Today Americans go back to their normal business. The politicians in Washington have made sure the sacrifices of the war are borne by the very smallest percentage of Americans. They won't even change the tax rates to prevent deficits from running out of control. Future generations will pay the cost of this war.
Many Americans feel strongly about the war one way or another, but they aren't signing up their children for service or taking the protest to the streets. What can they do? It is they whom we in the military trust to influence our leaders in Washington.
Today, as on every other day in Iraq, American servicemen are in very real danger. Our country is at war. Mothers, fathers, wives, husbands and children are worrying about their loved ones in a faraway land. They all hope he or she isn't the one whose luck runs out today.
The writer is an Air Force captain stationed in Iraq.
wrong, full of wrong statements, see my upper post...nm
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Wrong Woman - Wrong Message
http://www.truthout.org/article/palin-wrong-woman-wrong-message
Wrong, wrong, wrong, clueless Lu.
Horse hockey
Sorry about that...wrong board, wrong name
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You're right. Something is definitely wrong
Not with the priests who do the molesting.
Not with the Senator who absolves the priests of blame and instead blames the Liberals.
No. Instead something is definitely wrong with ME for my outrage that a Republican Senator can make such an outlandish, IRRESPONSIBLE statement, instead of trying to SAVE these children and condemning what the priests are doing. Unfortunately, this is typical of the Republican party these days. Typical of the "We are perfect and make no mistakes" mentality that's prevalent in this country. They couldn't be honest if their lives depended on it.
Well, tell us what's wo wrong about what he says?
 You can't, because he just pegged the lot of you like he always does which is why he has the top rated radio show in the country
You got it wrong....
Many of us liberals do not have delicate thoughts about terrorists. But get it through your brain, if you can, that many of us feel that invading Iraq for oil and power WAS NOT THE WAY TO attack or deal with the terrorists. Apparently they're mostly in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and what are we doing? Messing around in Iraq. We are LESS safe and I think time will prove that.
WRONG. You know what is
Not everyone is a liar. Only the ones who have done it on this board before and don't deserve to be trusted or believed again.
It's quite simple. If you want to be believed, stop lying.
Then that was wrong
absolutely wrong, and the teacher and school administration were clearly in the wrong. Shouldn't have happened, period.
Wrong.
What posts are you talking about? Either I wasn't here then or you're wrong. I've read through most of the posts but don't remember seeing that. Prove it.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!
You called her an elitist pig, claiming to mean it in a good way.
She replied with Yup, elistist pig here..Yeehhaaww~~
And now you’re claiming she said she speaks for God.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!
So was I wrong? And if not...
...what are you getting so huffy about? Just for the fun of it? There's no arrogance in assuming you aren't one of the 1% of the richest people in the country. It's a natural assumption considering you spend so much time here, and why would you bother if you could be off doing whatever pleased you with money being no object? I'm certainly not one of the 1% and you bet I'd be doing something rather than putting up with your petty indignation if I had a virtually limitless income. So I didn't assume a thing about you that you were not free to assume about me in return. What's the big deal -? Are you ashamed anyone might think you're not in the top 1% of wealthiest Americans? Mighty fragile ego, that. Better face reality and get a grip - that's a pretty exclusive club.
What is WRONG with you? sm
Seriously what IS wrong with you? This has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Except yet one more occasion to use the word LIAR.
WRONG!
I corrected myself. I admitted to my mistakes. I always admit to my mistakes, and believe me, I make a lot of them. I'm even harsher on me than the neocons are.
If the neocons could just admit to theirs, the dialogue might be more productive.
and *what if* you are wrong?
We both could be wrong. I find debating what if's a waste of time.
The simple answer to any what if question is:
If you're right then I'm wrong. However, I find dealing in knowns a better way to logistically deal with any scenario. You can what if yourself all day long and never get anywhere.
Wrong. nm
 Richard Cohen was right. Sad.
You are all three wrong. TI
Despite the UN ruling that Israel completed its withdrawal from southern Lebanon (UN, June 18, 2000), Hizballah and the Lebanese government insist that Israel still holds Lebanese territory in eastern Mount Dov, a 100-square-mile, largely uninhabited patch called Shebaa Farms. This claim provides Hizballah with a pretext to continue its activities against Israel. Thus, after kidnapping three Israeli soldiers in that area, it announced that they were captured on Lebanese soil. Israel, which has built a series of observation posts on strategic hilltops in the area, maintains that the land was captured from Syria; nevertheless, the Syrians have supported Hizballah's claim. According to the Washington Post, the controversy benefits each of the Arab parties. For Syria, it means Hizballah can still be used to keep the Israelis off balance; for Lebanon, it provides a way to apply pressure over issues, like the return of Lebanese prisoners still held in Israeli jails. For Hezbollah, it is a reason to keep its militia armed and active, providing a ready new goal for a resistance movement that otherwise had nothing left to resist. In January 2005, the UN Security Council adopted a resolution condemning violence along the Israel-Lebanon border and reasserted that the Lebanese claim to the Shebaa farms area is not compatible with Security Council resolutions.
Wrong. I did not.
I never said this person was sent to SHUT DOWN down the board, as I was accused of saying by the rude, rabid person you're defending.
I said this person was sent to crash the board (as in INVADE the board, as in someone who would CRASH A PARTY).
Yes, I made the mistake of posting on the other board twice before I read further and realized the nature of these boards. I haven't repeated that mistake since.
I suppose I can expect 3,869 more posts from you to make us even for my two posts.
After reading some posts by you on your board (such as Prophecy certainly is being fulfilled. So much of the world has turned their back on Israel.), I can totally understand your blind, unquestioning loyalty to Israel. You obviously believe the end times are near, and if you don't support Israel, you won't get to spend eternity with people like Ann Coulter. People like you scare me because I believe you will do anything it takes to self-fulfill that prophecy. That is yet another reason why religion and politics don't mix; I can't help but wonder if God told Bush to bring the end times about, which he seems to be intent on doing with his bomb first, ask questions later tactics. After all, God told Bush to go to war with Iraq, and Bush obeyed that order.
I was wrong....sm
He said Fox was off his meds or *acting.* {{same thing}}
Enjoy your show! (and all its *cough* facts).
You are wrong. sm
Noam Chomsky and Ward Chamberlain both made comments that we got what we deserved on 9/11.
you got this one wrong.
I have been to the boards in the last 2 or 3 weeks once. I did not post whatever you are referring to and when I do post I always use my name. I have yet to come up with a reason to hide behind another. It was not me.
Wrong again...
I don't know what other liberals are doing or if they are mad about TV coverage. Secondly, I am reacting to a 1-hour broadcast, nothing more, nothing less. Maybe the new War Czar will see the necessity of administration presence at soldier's funerals. I agree with Democrat that this convocation was quite a bit more pomp and circumstance than Katrina where he showed up in shirtsleeves, made promises and left. I am not mad because liberal causes are not on TV...this has not a thing to do with liberal causes or TV coverage. It was my response to an event.
Wrong AGAIN....
President Bush declared a national day of remembrance for the Katrina victims and there was a great bit of pomp and circumstance as I remember it. I have never seen any administration order half-staff for a natural disaster, no matter who was in power.
you are just wrong
your facts and thoughts are so twisted and convoluted that further discussion with you is futile. Step aside. Next.
Okay, that's just wrong, wrong, wrong!
I'd say that is right up there with Hillary attacking Obama's kindergarten essay. What's wrong with these people and their campaign? Isn't anyone telling them when they have stepped off the deep end into the abyss of bull....
when I'm wrong I'm wrong
Everyone is wrong at one time or another...gotta suck it up and admit it. That's what makes us human. My MIL...she will never admit that she's wrong - infurates DH. When he tries to tell her the truth about certain things if she doesn't want to hear it, mysteriously something will be on the stove burning and she'll have to hang up immediately. Then she doesh't have the decency to call back. LOL
I'm sorry....but you are wrong.
Clinton was impeached on two counts, grand jury perjury and obstruction of justice, with the votes split along party lines. The Senate Republicans, however, were unable to gather enough support to achieve the two-thirds majority required for his conviction. On Feb. 12, 1999, the Senate acquitted President Clinton on both counts. The perjury charge failed by a vote of 55–45, with 10 Republicans voting against impeachment along with all 45 Democrats. The obstruction of justice vote was 50–50, with 5 Republicans breaking ranks to vote against impeachment.
So....even though he was not convicted and not told to step down from office....he was still impeached. Only one president has been impeached and told to step down and that was President Andrew Johnson...I do believe. President Nixon chose to resign rather than be impeached.
wrong, wrong
True "feminists" are going to vote for Obama, issues over politician. Any true Hillary followers who followed her for issues will follow her to Obama instead of McCain. Only those few who followed her solely because she was a woman and no other reason will vote for McCain now. Fortunately they will be cancelled out by what one journalist called the "caveman" vote, in this case voting against McCain or just not voting at all because he has a woman on the ticket and no other reason. Oh yeah, they're still out there.
Wrong again, Sam.
It is not that the Soup Nazi didn't have any soup, it is just that he was free to deny soup to anyone he felt was not deserving of it. The same goes for us. We are not obligated to respond to your demands for documentation if we feel you are not deserving of it. Therefore, no soup for you!
You are so wrong!
They're trying to do it in Alaska!!!
Don't get me wrong here
I guess I am always thinking of the future, and about the choices we make today and how it could affect our future. As I said, I have two wonderful lesbian friends (partners) who I love dearly. They are the sweetest women on earth. They mean to harm no one. They have 5 children (3 offsprings of one of the women and 2 they are foster parents to - children of one of the women's sisters, who is a crack addict, and cannot take care of them). These women are wonderful "parents" to these children. It is not that I am against it. I just don't understand it, I guess. I too have nothing against gays or lesbians, as long as they do not try to push their lifestyle off on me. I am just thinking how it just does not seem to be right in the sense of the future, or past for that matter. If same-gender marriage was to be then where would there be offspring? Are you getting where I am coming from here. 
Once again you are wrong
You really need to do some research. What does Iran and the 911 attack have to do with the federal research and bailouts. OP posted a good well researched post. You are just throwing out more rhetoric for the hatred you have toward Sarah Palin. And for what? OP was correct. Stop blaming each side. This started a long time ago and both parties have been in power since it began. For me the question is who has been profiting from it. I'm not blaming either side, but it just goes to show me how corrupt Washington is when people on both sides are making money off of it, then will tax the american people more and tell us we should feel patriotic about it.
As for the 911 attack... there's a lot more involved that one day we will know the whole story (not what is being hand fed to us). SP has been correct in what she has said. We have to stop the fundamentalist no matter what country they are in.
I believe you are wrong, Sam!
The first post regarding Alinsky was posted by someone named Jules regarding a link to the Boston Globe entitled "Son of Communist organizer Saul Alinksy praises Democratic convention and Obama campaign for using his father's methods." You're response to that post was, "holey moley...gonna have to put research into overdrive. Thanks for posting." This can all be found on page 16 of the political forum archives dated 09/02/2008. Since that post on 09/02/2008, you have been dropping Saul Alinksy's name as often as possible.
If you can prove that you were posting messages about Saul Alinsky with regards to the election prior to the above post on 09/02/2008, please provide the archive page number and date for verification.
We look forward to your response.
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