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Posted By: that would be a NO! sm on 2008-10-11
In Reply to: Did you lift this Bukhari interpretation from the - Prophet of Doom entry with Palin's picture..sm

Quran Surah 4: Women

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72

Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128




Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123


As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.

Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.

Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.



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You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!

This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".

Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.

Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!

Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.

There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!

Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.

Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!

They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!




You're sarcastically clueless. Any chance you could buy a clue?


If you took a second out of your I love Bush, and nobody else cloud, you would see that we do care about our soldiers, our countrymen.  But, you're so full of the Bush Kool-Aid you can't see straight. Did you even read the article???  You obviously didn't from your response.  Knowledge is a powerful thing.  It's not just liberals feeling this way about Bush and his war, the country is at a divide and more people support his impeachment than those who supported Clinton's impeachment that by the way republicans pursued on their own to defame the president in front of the world any all and any cost. So you can save your do the right thing speech.


I don't know what you're talking about.

But I find it funny that you throw out a bunch of words and suddenly your friend below accepts them as fact.


I'm being investigated?  Fine.  Investigate away.  I have nothing to hide.


If you're talking about....sm
McCain, he has said he doesn't believe in torture, and I have doubts he would use it on anyone else, especially since it was used on him.


Hey, that's me you're talking about....LOL (sm)
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), religion does have an influence on politics.  So when we start talking about abortion, for example, you really can't talk about the issue without talking about religion.  For me, the idea of religion being brought up on this board is not the issue.  The issue is that people seem to have little tolerance of other religions (or the lack thereof). 
No idea what you're talking about -
...except the person who posted whatever it was on the conservative board, so why don't you take it up with that person ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD? You sure give yourself a lot of license coming here to bash everyone else over it, as if that's some kind of excuse.

Looks like the NeoCons are getting bored talking to each other...have to come here to troll instead. Had to happen!
I don't know if you're talking about my post or not.

I think the subject line that All Americans Deserve to Live (or something like that).


I see that my post is gone, and if mine is the post you're referring to, I'm sorry.  I can't repost it.  It was just something I quickly wrote from my heart, and I didn't keep a copy of it.


I guess I'll have to start saving a copy of everything I write.  :-(


Sure sounds like you're talking about yourselves here, you two....nm
It's okay to glom on and bully down the republicans, be it the candidates or posters. But let one do it to you, and you cry foul, like the hypocrites you are.

Every description you use to define the right, sounds a lot like your libby posts. How ironic. Right in front of your nose, and you can't even see yourself.

So sorry for your small, closed mindedness.


I'm guessing you're talking about
the old fart, right? That's all he does. He doesn't care about our country. He only cares about being in power, why...I can't figure out. He'd be the second worst in history, BUSH first. Remember when you voted for BUSH? HaHaHaHa...Oh, not really. Look where we are now.
you're talking to the wrong sm --

Yes - they're already talking about the possibility
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You have no idea what you're talking about...(nm)
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Don't you realize who you're talking to?
These type of people have no loyalty to this country. They just don't get "free people". They have never gotten what it means to be in a country where they have freedoms other countries don't have and they never will.

They are so wrapped up in their own lives, they will never get the big picture. Just like with this president. They will sing his praises for the next 4 years even if he took every freedom they have away because they won't admit he is taking this country down the wrong path..... that's because country doesn't mean anything to them; the "party" is all they see and for some, the fact we have a black man for president is all they care about. Either way, it's very sad for us all.

I didn't like a lot of things Bush didn't do while in office... closing our borders for starters, so more moochers won't crawl, the crime rate wouldn't skyrocket, and our prisons wouldn't be full of still more freeloading moochers I have to pay for for years to come. The fact that he didn't pardon the border patrol agents sickens me. There is no excuse for that.

So, for those who are stuck on "party" lines instead of what is best for their country, they will pull this country down. The fact that poster thinks it's a good thing to keep "free speech" silenced is frightening. Those people are what's wrong with this country!
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
You sound like a blithering boob just parroting what the Huffington Post told you.

It's quite obvious you didn't check your facts, or do a moment's worth of research.




You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.

When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
Unfortunately, you're talking to ignorant people!
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We're talking history here, not theology....nm
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So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.

Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.

It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.




We're talking about a brand new baby born with Down's...there is NO comparison at all...nm
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Nope, never said I wasn't black, but I remember the argument you're talking about...sm
Nan, Military Brat and Bush supporter took me to task over whether or not I was black when I said *and who said I was black anyway* I'm trying to find this in archives.

But, what I can't stand is people having a preformed opinion about how I am going to think or should think since I'm black, that's why I don't post my race. Once I posted that I was African American that's when they started the *I thought you said you weren't black.* Which I have never denied my race. Sorry, but not true.
Here's another clue.....

I figured you were being sarcastic.  Just wanted to make sure you were being as nasty as I thought. 


You know, Minnesota and Wisconsin both prepared for several thousand evacuees and we were more or less turned down due to distance from Louisiana.  In my home town a bunch of us offered long-term housing/jobs/resources/transportation for 100 folks but then were told we'd probably have no takers.


What I'm trying to say is that things are not always as portrayed, both by the left and the right and the in-between.


I would also suggest you ponder why the need to be nasty as it really does not advertise your political philosophy very well.


Here's a clue. SM
I have never and would never say I was a liberal. I would rather die.  Literally.   There are a lot of people who post on here as MT.  There are also variations.  MT2, OldMT, AncientMT, DecrepitMT...well, you get the picture.  I am not sure why you feel it is your function in life to answer every post about gt, unless you ARE gt.  Hey, you can accuse, so can I.  But the fact remains, you are mistaken.   I rarely post here anymore and my posts are always polite and have been for some time. 
Hey, buy a clue. Not everything is about YOU! nm

You don't have a clue who he is. ....
or what he's about, or you couldn't possibly say that. How sad.
You really don't have a clue that there's
Ignorance: Sometimes it's bliss.
You don't have a clue
Go back to vicious and nasty.
You don't have a clue either........
If you knew anyone with a small business and asked them what this would do for their pocketbook they would tell you their business would end up dying. Obama has very cleverly disguised to most who do not pay attentin and do not care that small businesses will NOT be harmed by his little cuts. Well, all the mandated policies that sound so great have to be paid for. Obama's idea of small business means any business bringing in 250K a year. Maybe you think that's a lot of money but it is nothing. That money has to pay for employees, expenses, workmen's comp, huge taxes already, the list goes on and on and many are hanging on by a thread as it is.

These same companies whom he sees to think will do just fine will be out of business. They will be mandated to death. They cannot afford paid medical leave while employing someone else to do their job and then what? If you knew anything about running a business with paid employees/benefits, etc., you would know Obama's plan has put a nail in their coffin.


You would not have a clue.nm
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You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
You need to get a clue...........really!
Schools do not have to teach homosexuality in order to teach children to be kind to one another and not verbally or physically attack another child. There is just a boat load of crap!!

My children were taught you don't call other children names, bully them, or make fun of them in any way and to treat them in the same way they would want to be treated. I didn't have to specifically point out the gay kids or any particular "group".

How absolutely ridiculous is your comment. When I was in school, we absolutely knew there were gay kids and guess what? They hung out with us just like anyone else. There was one kid in theneighborhood who was gay and had the most smart as@ed mouth in the group,put down EVERYONE and everybody, made fun of fat people, people with glasses, people he thought were crazy in the head. Pleeeze!!! lets stop with the poor little gay children ignorant remarks you make. That kid did get his butt kicked a few times but not because he was gay (which he never outwardly admitted) but because he was a smart as@ed who had it coming to him. Even his daddy would make him go apologize for his smart mouth.

Ever think the gay kids harrass anyone? You are so narrow minded and caught up in all this crap!

Unlike you, I didn't spend my years growing up making all these judgement calls on everyone as you obviously do.
Think about it. Here's a clue. I was being sarcastic
no further message needed
And your clue is to vote
who is robbing the middle class blind while giving tax breaks to billionaries...you know, Bush's base, the haves and have mores? Tell me, are you part of this elite base? May I suggest you read the book, What's the matter with Kansas? see link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas

I think I'll stick with my parents' party and such leaders as FDR and JFK...people who actually gave a rat's a** about the backbone of this country, the workers and middle class.
If you had a brain, you'd have a clue. sm
Unfortunately, you don't have either.  And you are dangerous. You put us all at risk.  Especially the military you PRETEND to support.  And it is a pretense.  We all know it.  Cowards.  You are all cowards.
You obviously have no clue about his history, a
community organizer in the gettos of Chicago before he even went to Harvard Law School, president of the Harvard review, a very intelligent person, brought up by his single-parent mother and his grandparents to be a compassionate and honorable man, and someone who understands that a president cannot be the end all monarch of American, but knows how to appoint people to his team with expertise. He is a good father, a family man, with a wife that supports him. No one wants to say it, but the biggest reason most white people don't want to vote for him is because he is black and smart.
Obama has no clue...sm
on how to fix the financial crisis. Meanwhile, his democrat cronies responsible for this mess (Dodd et al.) sit and pontificate their point of view of the problem, conveniently leaving themselves out of the mix......

The dems are doing their best to ruin this more and cause more class envy and warfare.


You obviously have no clue as to the Muslim...sm
or any other religion other than your own. There a zealots in every religion, I repeat, EVERY religion, closed minded people who believe everything that they hear from dubious sources. Do you know anything about any religion other than Christian? I should mention that I am a Christian. The Muslim religion is very devout, fundimentally believe in the same God Christians believe in, they believe in peace and goodness for their people. They believe Jesus was a good man, a prophet, but do not believe he is the son of God. I have Muslim friends. They DO NOT believe in the extremism of Osama bin Laden and are proud Americans. Something that everyone should keep in mind is that every? major war that has been fought in history has been somehow or other be fought or justified by involking the name of God.
Get a clue and grow up
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Wouldn't have a clue.

I think, though, we need to abandon the idea of the "trickle down" theory because we had eight years of that, and all it did was make the rich more greedy.  We need to regulate (and prosecute) the Wall Street crooks, that's for sure.


Sadly, most don't have a clue and
don't really care what got us in this mess. Banks and mortgage companies were forced to give subprime loans because the democrats wanted EVERYBODY to have house, whether they could afford it or not, giving everyone the belief they were somehow entitled to a home, money or no money. The law was pushed by the democratic party (for those who bother to read it) and it became law that the banks HAD to make these loans AND the law put in place these institutions making money on these worthless pieces of paper. They were forced to do the business with those who had no business in there in the first place getting a loan. And for those who knew they were living beyond their means and even lying about the income, they should have to bear the burden of their stupidity. I do not feel the least bit responsible for keeping them in their home. We live well below what a bank told us we could afford and we have......better safe than sorry!

For all those that think free handouts somehow will make a better country for us and hitting companies that employ with MORE taxes and treating those who are fortunate enough to be rich as if rich is a bad word and going after their income, do those same people EVER stop to ask themselves who the heck pays their assistance!!! It's those who have more money.....duh!! If you didn't have them, you wouldn't have your free money in the first place but lets certainly not discuss that, Heaven forbid!

I'm glad you see the writing on the wall but I'm afraid for those who voted for Obama who are now changing their tune are realizing all too late they have been screwed.
Do you own a business? If not, you don't have a clue
Small businesses are laying off right now DIRECTLY RELATED to Obama being in office. I personally know several small business owners in this town with anywhere from 50 to 200 employees and they are already laying off and anticipating laying off more BECAUSE of Obama's regulations which he is/will IMPOSE on small businesses, while all the while convincing O lovers such as yourself that job loss has absolutely nothing to do with him!

I know this for a fact! So don't be so quick to give your Obama a free pass.....

He is running this dog and pony show with disasterous results already!

You can't keep pointing your finger at Bush for the rest of Obama's term; Obama is directly responsible for ALL the mistakes he is now making.... why don't you hold him responsible???

I think we know the answer to that question, so never mind.

Do you have any clue whatsoever....(sm)

what the perks of being president are?  Along with his salary, he also gets an annual $50,000 entertainment expense account, just like previous presidents have received.  Did you gripe about Bush entertaining people at the White House while he was running up the deficit?  I doubt it.


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/CEOProfiles/story?id=6806414&page=1


If Katrina was a clue, I would say probably UN forces.sm
In addition to the Blackwater security and Israelis, armed Mexican soldiers entered the US for the first time since 1800s to supposedly provide aid. Possibly conditioning Americans to the perception that foreign troops on US soil policing US citizens in times of emergency is normal. I know they train here on our military bases because I have met some in Colorado, mainly Romanians.

The Army Times reported that hurricane survivors who wouldn't leave New Orleans were to be treated as insurgents and that combat operations to eliminate them were undertaken. This is where the so-called 'relief' effort was directed towards - treating American citizens like terrorists and hunting them down simply for wanting to stay in their own homes. And once they were caught, FEMA treated evacuees as internees, registering them and giving them ID cards, preventing them from leaving the internment camps.


Simple, he doesn't have a clue either.
He's just giving lip service and hoping us dumb little, wrapped-up-in-our-own-lives citizens, will just be so complacent and compliant, that we just accept his ridiculous response and go on with our lives, being screwed at every corner, thinking, "WHEW, at least our government is going to take care of it".......right!!!!!
Get a clue people. This FREAKS ME OUT.
I am off the board.  This is it.  Our United States will never be the same.  You want change, you are going to get your change.  Downhill from here.  Hope you all like the Hitler years.  Maybe the O is the messiah, anti-Christ, whatever.  This is not a normal political election.  Major movement going on.  Nothing like this is posted about McCain.  Everything on this board is trying to convince everyone of horrible things about O.  Nothing about McCain and if McCain comes up, it is so petty.  I think some of you like the thrill of what will happen in the next year if O makes it.  GOD HELP US ALL if he does.  Probably God's wrath will be on us.  At least that is what I have been reading on CBN, Kay Arthur, etc.   
I dont think Obama has a clue either. This man of
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Yeah, or he just hasn't got a clue!
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Get a clue! Clinton started a lot of it.
I saw it coming, the housing bubble in 2005. Some big wig California investor bought my house 150,000 more than what it is worth now today and bought other homes because he "had to get into the big buying bubble." Well, the bubble exploded and now he is out 150,000 on my house and way more because of the other 6 homes he bought too with no money down and interest only mortgages. That was the fault of the treasury department and banks. NOT BUSH. I on the other hand saw it coming and walked away with 300,000 in my pocket because of greedy people. Was I greedy? No, we had to move out of state during the housing bubble in 2005. Did Bush help me? No Did Obama help me? No. Did the government help me? No. God, the higher authority one helped my family and knew when the right time was for us to move and I sold my home in "4 hours." Some one higher is watching over me and my family and surely not anyone who is in the government.
When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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Just a little clue for you far left Democrats. Thank GOD you don't represent
the mainstream Democrats.  Here's the clue.  The harder you try to remove God from our consciousness by any means, be it in the Pledge, or any other venue, the harder we will fight you. You WILL NOT remove God from us by any means as long as we live.  There are a whole LOT of Democrats who feel this way, too, so don't feel that just because you speak,you speak for them.  I feel sorry for you. I don't know where you comfort comes from.  I can't possibly imagine a world without God and his grace, forgiveness and love.  This is one battle you will not win.