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Honestly wondering

Posted By: Old part-timer on 2009-01-20
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I didn't vote for O, but I think he wants to be a honest, decent president. What I'm wondering is, what is all this hoopla doing to his ego? Who wouldn't be swayed by the fawning, adoring fans, the coronation-like atmosphere in the media and the comparisons to Martin Luther King and Lincoln? How can this NOT give him an inflated sense of self-importance?

So, I'm wondering, when it comes time for him to enter the White House, is his head going to be too big to fit through the door?

He has a serious and important job to do. I wish this day would be treated with the importance it deserves, but not with the carnival atmosphere I've seen displayed.



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Honestly?

I pray our country will not be sold out from under us.  Sorry, but this election has me very worried.  So many things to consider.  About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than.  I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another.  I must say this drives my husband crazy.  But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with.  About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'.  I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight.  We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life.


Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California.  He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.  During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip.  Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family.  My question - Where did he get the money for this trip?  Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.  When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York.  It is at this time he  wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry.  Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia?  It's not cheap! to say the least.  Where did he get money for tuition?  Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year.  Why Chicago?  Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
 


By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago.  Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year.  Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.  About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School.  Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School?  Where did he get the money for Law School?  More student loans?  After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down.  But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what?  They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm.  Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago.  In 20 03, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money'  for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).  With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?  On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased.  Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
 


 Now, we have Obama running for President.  Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss.  She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first.  Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran!  Do we see a pattern here?  Or am I going crazy?
 


On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.  This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
 


Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan?  They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama.  Where is that money coming from?  The poor and middle class in this country?  Or could it be from the Middle East? 


And the final bit of news.  On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos.  Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'.  When questioned, 'he made a mistake'.  Some mistake!


 All of the above information I got on line.  If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.


 Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?
 


 A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!


 


Tell me you don't honestly believe that. How sad.
bulldinky
Honestly,
They feel no more entitled than pretty much any other person in this country.  I actually like Bush's speech and Obama's as well.  I didn't care for Lowery's one bit tho.
Honestly,
I was looking for someone that wasn't going to try to use smokescreens and magic tricks.  I would like for the US to stop sending aid to other countries for awhile so that we can fix our own issues.  We have families here in the US that are hungry but yet we send millions overseas without expectation of repayment.  I would like a president that is not going to use his position as president to feel he has the right to invade other countries as Bush did with Iraq.  We are not the fix all for every countries problems.  I would like a president that is truly going to make our military the best in the world again.  I would like the welfare systems fixed.  I could go on and on but I have work to do.  I truly do hope Obama can come up with new solutions to fix old problems this country has had.  What we are going through now is nothing new, but past lessons have not been learned.
I honestly don't know what should be done.
First of all, I don't understand why they haven't been brought to trial yet - why can't they be tried in the Hague - isn't that supposed to be the neutral territory for that sort of thing?

I'm not saying that it's not the right thing to do, all I'm saying is that a lot of thought has to go into this because these people have a whole lot to gain by attacking America again. Think how highly they would be revered by their country if they survived Gitmo prison only to be released and succeed in attacking America! What the answer is, I don't know, but just to blindly say we're gonna close it down without any plan of how to actually do it just doesn't make sense to me.
Are you honestly that stupid

that you can't tell the difference between someone hoping someone burns in hell AFTER they die (having had nothing to do with their death) and openly and publicly encouraging America to ASSASSINATE the leader of a country?


Are you really that much of a moron, and as Gadfly said, why in the world do you WANT to openly reveal that to others?  Some of you people need some SERIOUS professional help.


I have to say, honestly, I am just not interested.

That is my true feeling on the matter.  I am absolutely zero vested in conspiracy theories or ascribing blame.  Blame will not bring back anyone and at the same time, I feel there was a long long line of failures leading up to 9/11 that started way before President Bush and continued through many presidencies.  I hope, no matter what, in the end they can have peace of mind.  I am sure it has to be hard for them. 


I'm honestly not sure what was inapproprite
sorry!
Honestly, how can you overlook this? Where were you when they were (sm)
passing out brains? Or did yours just get washed by Obama?
I just watched this. Can honestly say it was
nm
honestly i don't care
where the questions came from. if you have nothing to hide, why not ANSWER THE QUESTION?
Honestly, as our system is now, there is no
reason for anyone to be homeless. Before you tell me, I understand about mental illness and all, and, perhaps, those people are not making a choice, but anyone without enough money to afford a home can get one through our current welfare system--they must only ask.
Honestly, Shelly.
You and I almost never see eye to eye on issues (except I agree 100% with your above comment about filibuster) and sometimes the content of sources you post drive me up a wall, but I've been reading your posts long enough to know that you do not typically get nasty and personal and, for the most part, you try to keep yourself out of the attack mode. At least you do a better job of than than I do.

I guess I'm just feeling old, tired, scared and a little sad. Old enough to remember when the country was not so divided. Tired of feeling like I have to be on the defensive all the time and not being able to talk issues instead of constantly having to wade through a mine field of slams and insults when expressing an opposing view. Scared of getting back on the job market after 6 months of unemployment. Sad because I'm missing the good ole days, which I know deep down in my soul will never be coming back.

I forgot frustrated. Frustrated that I find myself full of sarcasm and anger, sometimes for reasons I cannot even understand myself. I've been active in politics since 1966. More than anything, I love a good healthy debate aimed at exchanging differing points of view and oriented toward common ground and goal-setting, destined toward workable solutions. I used to know how to do that and do it well. Now I'm not so sure I will ever regain that part of myself and I really, really miss that one simple pleasure. Any suggestions?
Honestly, it's all about power
for the democrats in office, in my opinion. They want people to depend on the government so they have more power. That's what should scare the heck out of all of us much more than if they are helping someone in need or not.
I was wondering how it all came to be
I was just about to do some searching on the Internet to learn how all this happened in the first place.

You explained it in a way that I can understand it.

Thank you very much for your research and the link provided too.
I was wondering about that myself.... nm
nm
Just wondering s/m
I've been out most of the day and was hoping to see something new.  Do you all EVER stop and look back at how many times you have posted the SAME thing?  It is just unbelievable from a bunch of MTs who are supposedly well-educated and intelligent.  Happy Obama bashing all you pubs.  I don't know what you're so worried about, your guy will win in the end and even if he does or doesn't, neither one of them are going to lower your taxes!  Did anyone hear about Chrysler/GM now needing a few bil????????  Step right up big biz, next?, next?
something I have been wondering
It seems to me that this campaign has been more divisive than any I recall, and I am not a young person so I have seen a few! Emotions are really running high this year. Has it always been this highly charged and I didn't notice or is it really so much more tense in 2008? Is it because I age I am feeling more at stake here? Does anyone else feel this way or am I way out there?
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
Yep. I am just wondering what all the...
faithful are going to think if the great and powerful O is elected and they wake up and find out this ain't Kansas anymore, and the ruby slippers are long gone. lol. sigh.
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
Right, was wondering if that is where this came from nm
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I am just wondering...
How many of these rude comments about these politicians would be stated if they had to be backed up by a reliable source??
I was wondering what you think we ought to do with
the people housed in Gitmo?  Where should they go?  Back to their countries where they can plot and then carry out their next terrorist attack?  Or do you want them housed here in the continental U.S. at a correction facility near you? I live within 80 miles of Fort Leavenworth and I can tell you, I'm not pleased with the idea of a hundred or so terrorists that close to my family!
I'm wondering..............sm
Obama didn't specifically mention MT in his comments, at least what was in the above post. I admit I didn't listen to the link. I wonder if he might have been referring to things like call centers, etc., which I really would consider unskilled labor.
Wondering
Okay, I don't like Obama.  Does this mean I'm not a democrat?  According to this board, I must be a Republican.  Can I not be an Independent?  Or what about just being an American who doesn't pick a side, but goes with my my own feelings based on what a man says and does?  All this talk about the government doing this and the government taking that.  Last I checked, the people were the government in the US, so we are all doing this and taking that and allowing this.   I'm an American with an opinion, so quit putting me in a category. 
Just wondering...
what would happen to this country if the 2% that are expected to pay for all of this just up and leave the country, never to pay US taxes again? Even if half left? Who would sustain our government then?
What I am wondering is are these 8 to
10,000 dead people receiving monthly benefit checks as well? If so, what is happening to that money?
I'm just wondering...
how someone could think statutory rape would be funny, no matter whose daughter they're talking about. Letterman needs to get a clue.
Just wondering,
why this seems to give you so much joy? I think most of the people that voted for Bush (myself included) see that what he did was not the best idea, but I don't see how dragging it all out for the world to see is going to make it better. Why is it we can't just let it go and move on? Would that be so terrible?
Just wondering,
why this seems to give you so much joy? I think most of the people that voted for Bush (myself included) see that what he did was not the best idea, but I don't see how dragging it all out for the world to see is going to make it better. Why is it we can't just let it go and move on? Would that be so terrible?
You honestly believe the junk you spew
wholeheartedly.  You can't believe that even some liberals may be offended at your far leftist projectile vomiting.  You are paranoid of anyone who isn't patting your back and affirming you every step of the way.  You aren't a mainstream liberal. I know you're not, because I have shared some of your pukings with some liberal acquaintances of mine (yep, believe it or not I pal around with some liberals), and they classify you as a wacko.  I read where you are from California.  Well, you are probably pretty affirmed in California, but in most of the rest of the country you are far out of the liberal mainstream.
Well, honestly Democrat, the times that has been tried here. sm
I have been tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail by everyone but you.
Honestly, you didn't miss much.
It was not one of his better shows, but he still cracks me up!
you honestly think that was a worthwhile post?
nm
Is this honestly how most Dems treat others?
nm
Oh honestly, how often do you get it "shoved down your throat"?
If it's on a forum, don't read it. If it's on TV, change the channel. I'm sure you don't get Christianity shoved down your throat anymore than we get "Go Obama" shoved down ours and "oh you right wing crazies" and all that other mess!




You honestly think Obama will pray to God before he...
makes a decision? Oh, don't let the liberals hear you say that. They will be calling him Bush Jr. LOL.

Seriously...he CAN make it worse than it already is.

I do pray for the country, continuously...does not mean I need to check my brain at the door and you shouldn't either.
Do u honestly think that was planned overnight?
it would be while Clinton was in office, when he had bin laden handed to him on a silver platter along with other terrorists and didn't take them out THEN.......

You can thank Clinton for that one......the butt kisser
If you honestly studied O's plan, you should be
nm
please answer a sincerely honestly sm
asked question if you don't mind. Who IS YOUR gOD? You never say who your god is?
We were wondering if it really WAS America.
Happily things seem to be rolling along again.

Hope we won't hear too much whining about innocent until proven guilty however - DeLay's indictment spells it right out and despite his predictable claims of witch hunt and fanatic partisan vendetta, there really doesn't seem to be any question about what happened. They have the check copies and they have the testimony. So yes, we have to wait for the formal sentencing after the facts have been heard by the Grand Jury - but there is no other side to the story so far as I can see, and no alternate explanation possible about what happened.

In the court of public opinion, DeLay is dead meat. Sweet.
Wondering if you realize....
that every single one of the comments you are talking about were directed at me, and there are quite a few others. Just wondering if you know how they made me genuinely feel. Just wondering.
Anyone been wondering just how much longer

this Sam person is going to totally monopolize and bully this forum, before the moderator finally steps in and boots her off? 



Not what I said. Just wondering why we continue getting
and not a single person can stop and show a bit more humanity....that's all.
Hiya, Sam! (Was wondering where you were -)
nm
I bet within a year, you will be wondering WHY you
nm
Wondering about Georgia. s/m

Are they like Arkansas?  We may be hillbillies but we have enough sense to step on politicians when they don't deliver.  The Democrat who replaced Mike Huckabee got the mess straightened out in this basically Republican state.  I don't know of any individual cities who have their hand out here either.  Seems like states, cities AND people all want a piece of the free money.  Like all the posts here and elsewhere waiting for Obama to fill their hands with all that free cash.  EVERYBODY needs to wake up:


This is a little story about four people named everybody,somebody,anybody and nobody.

There was an important job to be done and everybody was sure that somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it but nobody did it.

Somebody got angry about that because it was everybody's job.

Everybody thought that anybody could do it but nobody realized that everybody wouldn't do it.

It ended up that everybody blamed somebody when nobody did what anybody could have done. 


Just wondering if anyone else agrees

I think this may just be the best idea I've seen for bailout money yet.  While I realize that a lot of people who have been responsible with their money and do not have a large amount of debt disagree with bailing out those who do have a lot of debt, I try to keep in mind that not everybody's circumstances are the same and sometimes it is not irresponsibility with money management but a lack of money to manage, for which I try to bear in mind, again, that there are many reasons for. 


Anyway, just looking for thoughts and opinions, as this seems to me to be a win-win type of solution where bailouts are given, consumers and corporations reap benefits, and it is not a complete give away as at least part of the money would be paid back.  Just seems like something that might actually give the economy the boost it needs right now.  And if bailouts are going to be given anyway, I like the idea proposed here.  Not to mention that the consumer can opt in or out depending on what they want to do.  What do you guys think?


I was wondering the same thing
I haven't seen her in months. She probably just got sick and tired of the same thing. She was attacked so much for her viewpoints I don't blame her for not coming back. I do agree with the O-Love-A-Thon going on. That's all I see now and then when someone does post something of interest they are immediately attacked. It's just gotten quite nauseating and creepy. Besides a few articles here and there nobody is giving any information anymore.

I like Ann Coulter. I don't have her books. I don't go out of my way to watch her but if she's on I'll listen to her. What I like about her is she is not afraid to get up and tell the truth and she knows she'll get bashed for it but she handles herself really well. I have no idea why she agreed to go on the view knowing the way they are. The funny thing was that couldn't argue with the truth so they then started in with she's mean, she's this, she's that, but they couldn't argue with the facts.

I too miss sam and her insights. I do believe she also got sick of the crap and left. I know I did. Still wish there were two boards so they could have their love-fest and we could discuss the issues. I do miss that. With the exception of one or two that do bring good information, the rest just like to attack.

Okay, got my flame resistent suit on.

Sam, if you do read this know that we miss you here.