I'm quite aware of how Medicare works...
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-25
In Reply to: There is already a LIMIT to how much they get - sm
I have been dealing with my mother's for years. You won't have to worry about your mother not being able to afford her medications for 4 months because the way it is being set up, your government will decide if your mother even needs that drug and if so, how many "pills" she can be dispensed and how long she can take it and if the GOVERNMENT doesn't feel it is helping, she will not be allowed to get any of it......PERIOD! They will decide if she is still young enough to make the government's handing her the meds worth their money or not. If not, they will allow her to do without and if that kills her, so be it. They have determined she is a lost case and doesn't deserve her medications, the medications I and you pay for.....but of course, Obama lovers just know their government knows best. Now they can decide if you live or die depending on your age. Just stick around folks.......it's gonna be sickening!!!
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Let me tell you something about Medicare
I am old enough to be on Medicare and thought I was going to have to take it, did not want to as I wanted to stay on my husband's insurance plan. I had heard things Medicare would pay or perhaps not and I have a PPO and wanted to stay that way. You have no choice if not on a company insurance and at 65 or so have to sign up for Medicare. If my husband were to be without his job, I can immediately switch over to Medicare without a break in my coverage. There are probably retirees out there who did not have their insurance continued because of their retirements who did not have the choice but to sign onto Medicare.
Eligible for Medicare.............sm
does not mean free health care. My mother is a widow of almost 4 years now and draws a smidgen over $900 a month in SS benefits. Out of this, she has to pay almost $400 in health insurance, which is Medicare and AARP. She is also on several medications for age-related diseases and disorders. While her Medicare Part D does cover part of the cost of the medicines, it does not cover it all. In addition, she falls in the "donut hole" every fall and has to pay full price for her medications until the new year arrives. While her house is paid for, there are always repairs to be made specific to an aging house. In the last year alone, she has had to replace a dead stove, refrigerator and freezer. She also has to pay around $250 everytime the propane truck fills her tank, which is about every other month, especially in the winter.
Like the other poster mentioned, the reason "they" have their houses paid off is because they managed their money properly and did not live above their means. My dad never made more than $6/hour his entire life and he and mom raised my brother and me on that salary alone. We never knew we were "poor" because mom worked hard to stretch dad's paycheck and didn't spend it on getting her nails done or expensive clothes. She made every stitch of clothing I ever had with the exception of my wedding dress and bought my brother 3 pairs of Sears' Toughskin jeans at the beginning of every school year and they lasted all year. Dad had 3 suits of khaki work clothes most years. Sometimes when there was no money to buy new, she would patch the old ones to make them last. She never bought new clothes for herself but instead made them as she did for me.
While it infuriates me that I likely won't ever draw SS because it will be dried up and gone before I am eligible, it makes me madder still that our generation and the ones after us have caused this problem for our parents. What ungrateful children we are.
You don't believe in Social Security and Medicare?
What would your plan be for the elderly population then?
No drug laws? I thought libertarians only objected to posession of marijuana as a crime. I didn't know you actually objected to all drug laws. So then, you believe all drugs should be legalized?
You don't believe in a standing military. I am not sure I remember that right. It's hard to remember that very long list without it in front of me. So is your plan then that we should all live in a drug-haze, leave all other countries to their own devices and we won't need a military because we won't be bothering anyone and who will care anyway because, of course, we will all be stoned? I can't say that I see any cogent thought behind this list. It's a morally relative list of Doctor Feel Good. I thought libertarians had more sense. What a bummer dude.
Medicare and social security
This today regarding Social Security and Medicare. For the person below who thought this money could not be used for other purposes, please note the *** paragraphs and the final paragraph stating this administration would run a deficit this year of $1.84 trillion, four times last year's record, and said the deficits will remain above $500 billion every year over the next decade.
Washington – The financial health of Social Security and Medicare, the government's two biggest benefit programs, have worsened because of the severe recession, and Medicare is now paying out more than it receives.
Trustees of the programs said Tuesday that Social Security will start paying out more in benefits than it collects in taxes in 2016, one year sooner than projected last year, and the giant trust fund will be depleted by 2037, four years sooner. Medicare is in even worse shape. The trustees said the program for hospital expenses will pay out more in benefits than it collects this year and will be insolvent by 2017, two years earlier than the date projected in last year's report.
*******The trust funds — which exist in paper form in a filing cabinet in Parkersburg, W.Va. — are bonds that are backed by the government's "full faith and credit" but not by any actual assets. That money has been spent over the years to fund other parts of government. To redeem the trust fund bonds, the government would have to borrow in public debt markets or raise taxes.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the head of the trustees group, said the new reports were a reminder that "the longer we wait to address the long-term solvency of Medicare and Social Security, the sooner those challenges will be upon us and the harder the options will be." Geithner said that President Barack Obama was committed to working with Congress to find ways to control runaway growth in both public and private health care expenditures, noting the promise Monday by major health care providers to trim costs by $2 trillion over the next decade. However, Republicans pointed to the newly dire assessments as evidence the Obama administration has failed to come forward with actual entitlement reform to close the funding gaps. "Instead of getting existing public programs in order right now, some are saying we should create a new government-run health insurance plan," Sen. Chuck Grassley, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said in a reference to the administration's health care proposals. "When we can't afford the public health plan we have already, does it make sense to add more?" House Republican leader John Boehner said the trustees report "confirms what we already knew: Our nation cannot afford to continue this reckless borrowing and spending spree." The findings in the trustees report, the annual checkup given the two benefit programs, did not come as a surprise. Private economists had been predicting that the dates the programs would begin to pay out more than they take in and the dates the trust funds would be insolvent would occur sooner given the economic recession.
The deep recession, the worst the country has endured in decades, has resulted in a loss of 5.7 million jobs since it began in December 2007. The unemployment rate hit a 25-year high of 8.9 percent in April.
Fewer people working means less being paid into the trust funds for Social Security and Medicare. The Congressional Budget Office recently projected that Social Security will collect just $3 billion more in 2010 than it will pay out in benefits. A year ago, the CBO had projected that Social Security would have a much higher $86 billion cash surplus for the 2010 budget year, which begins Oct. 1. The trustees report projected that Social Security's annual surpluses would "fall sharply this year," then remain at a reduced level in 2010 and be lower in the following years than last year's projections. The report said that the Social Security annual surplus would be eliminated entirely in 2016, reflecting increased demands from the wave of 78 million baby boomers retiring. That means Social Security will have to turn to its trust fund to make up the difference between Social Security taxes and the benefits being paid out beginning in 2016. The trustees projected the trust fund would be depleted in 2037, four years earlier than the 2041 date in last year's report. At that point, the annual Social Security taxes collected would be enough to pay for three-fourths of current benefits through 2083.
*******To tap the trust fund, the government would have to increase borrowing or raise taxes because Social Security bonds exist only as bookkeeping entries. While the government is obligated to redeem those bonds, it has already spent the excess Social Security collections over the years to fund general government operations, providing the trust funds with IOUs.
While the smaller surpluses that will begin this year will not have any impact on Social Security benefit payments, the government will need to borrow more at a time when the federal deficit is already exploding because of the recession and the billions of dollars being spent to prop up a shaky banking system. Medicare's condition is more precarious, reflecting the pressures from soaring health care costs as well as the drop in tax collections. Obama on Monday praised the pledge by the health care industry to achieve $2 trillion in savings on health care costs over the next decade, but it was unclear how much help those pledges would be in achieving Obama's goal of extending coverage to some 50 million uninsured Americans. The administration is pushing Congress to pass legislation in this area this year, preferring to tackle health care before Social Security. The trustees report is likely to set off renewed debate over Social Security and Medicare. Critics have charged that the Obama administration has failed to tackle the most serious problems in the budget — soaring entitlement spending.
*****The administration on Monday revised its federal deficit forecasts upward to project an imbalance this year of $1.84 trillion, four times last year's record, and said the deficits will remain above $500 billion every year over the next decade.
they lose a lot of their income and also their Medicare if they marry - nm
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You consider Social Security and Medicare expanding government projects, t hen?
Help me understand this concept. I am afraid the logic escapes me.
I think they're aware, don't you?
I believe the actual estimated number was somewhere around 4 to 6 million people exterminated,about 90% of them Jews... and it was the advance of the Russian army into Poland that began the disruption of the majority of the death camp operations. We basically stayed out of the fray until the very end.
But as mentioned, you have to look closely at the FACTS to get a true picture of what was going on.
How could you NOT be aware of it?
SHE POSTED IT ABOVE, only to receive the typical neocon response:
What makes you think we don't have that?
What makes me think you don't have that is because you believe, just like the idiot president you worship, that it's okay to send everybody else's kids to their deaths, as long as they aren't YOUR kids.
To respond in such a heartless way -- on CHRISTMAS, no less -- when you all claim to have superior *moral family values* makes me ecstatic that I'm not one of you.
This site has allowed a Jewish person to be labeled as a *Nazi* on the CON board. When the person requested the offensive posts be deleted, do you know what happened? SHE WAS BANNED FROM THIS SITE.
The *Nazi* posts are still there, posted on 11/28, hidden in posts labeled *Happy Thanksgiving* but, as usual, revealing NOTHING but the HATRED YOU ALL SPEW. Why do you people hate the MOST on HOLIDAYS?
Considering the owner's handling of the Nazi posts and the heartless response to Carla, I'm ashamed to be associated with even knowing this site exists any more, let alone continuing to frequent it.
I feel the need to take a LONG HOT SHOWER to hopefully get rid of all the SCUM that lives on these boards.
And to the owner of this board: Don't bother banning me.
I'M BANNING YOU! I DESPISE BIGOTS.
GOODBYE.
Yes, I am aware of that. However. sm
She cites absolutely verifiable election results. So skip everything else and read that.
That's the best you can do? Are you aware you
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Do you think I'm not aware of that???
I wish I could support Obama as avidly as you support McCain. I DO NOT think either of them are honest. As to Obama throwing his pastor under the bus, in my opinion he was about 20 years late in throwing him under the bus. I simply would rather take a chance on him (unknown) versus McCain (known). Either way we are royally screwed IMHO. If McCain is elected and doesn't pan out as you seem to think he will, I hope you remember you voted for him. It's looking more every day like we're going to get Obama and I will remember I voted AGAINST McCain.
yes---and I am sure that she is still well aware...
that abstinence works, if it is practiced.
I am aware that AAMT is not
a worker's union; however my bone of contention with them is the fact that instead of promoting MT's here and making us feel that we are indeed valuable to the economy of the nation we live in, they decided to do what other corporations have and give more attention and resources to offshore MT's in India. IMHO that is a slap in the face to the MT's here who have worked like the dickens to provide the medical community with the highest standard of transcription that we all could take pride in. I'm getting off of my  box now....
Everyone is aware of what you don't approve of....
and it happens to be the same kind of life a lot of your party members live. Like I said...get out there and spread this message. You will do more harm to Obama's candidacy than all the conservatives combined can do. Get right after it. I DARE YOU. GO post it somewhere where it will make a difference if you really believe it.
He is not on their payroll that I am aware of....
there are many people who "work for the campaign" who are not paid members of the campaign. I have never heard Fox or any other network say he was a paid member of the McCain campaign. I said he was working on behalf of the campaign...so am I, but they aren't paying me either. Big difference. I don't think, and have seen no indication, the Rove will be a member of a McCain administration.
I am very aware of what she was referring to.
I am asking for facts/incidences that directly relate to the type of "personality" that proves this poster's observations on Mrs. Obama's character. What exactly has she done to draw this meaness from someone?
You aren't aware of what compassion is.
It includes responding IMMEDIATELY to those in need. It includes a leader who makes RESPONSIBLE appointments to vital public posts (not lazy college drinking buddies who used to run horse associations). How carelessly you toss out accusations of taking political advantage while the leader you support carefully selects two black victims to hug on camera (the prettier the better)far from the stark reality of the war zone he helped create a few miles away. Or, stand in an airplane hangar trying desperately to smother his yawns while fauning public officials brief him on camera and tell him how well things are going, while badly needed helicopters are sitting uselessly behind him for impressive props. Political advantage? - Bush a la Rove has NEVER missed a single opportunity to take political advantage in every way possible, up to and including the death of every 9/11 victim, despite the fact that the victims' families are in no way satisfied with his bogus hand-picked impartial commission's findings. Please! You're just bitter because nobody likes your man anymore. The fact that he has royally screwed up not just this time but ALL ALONG is his fault, not ours. We're just pointing it out.
You aren't too aware of history. sm
Hitler's reign began with gun control. I thought everyone knew that.
Are you aware that nm at the end of your message means
.
I'm aware of who the real bosses are. sm
Don't be fooled by the dummy act, he's dumb as a fox, and all the damage he has done has been well-planned.
I am aware of the pitiful attempts
smear Obama over his ACORN "ties." Suing over rerdlining merely "bullied" the banks into treating minority and white loan applicants equally and was hardly responsible for the predatory lending practices ALREADY IN PLACE at the time. The operative word here with regard to O's "association" with ACORN is WAS. Personally, I cannot fault a guy for involving himself in voter registration drives. So what if they endorsed him? He's the better candidate and certainly represents their interests in minority social issues better than McCain. Voter fraud investigation is ongoing. Perhaps we should wait for the results of the investigation before drawing any conclusions, especially since you seem to be trying to insinuate that O somehow is trying to throw the race...a charge that will never gain any political capital coming from the party who in the past 8 years has written the book on voter fraud. Its a little hard to understand exactly how the current accusations rise to the level of voter fraud BEFORE the votes have even been cast. The only thing dirty here is the pathetic attempts on the part of the McCain campaign to spread hatred and division in their cowardly attempts to avoid talking about the economy elephant in the room.
are you aware all caps is yelling?
please do not yell at me
Seriously? Are you aware of the ridiculous things
nm
Are you aware of any attempts to suppress
Or am I missing something here?
No, but I am aware of possibly 1000s
of democrats being registered to vote who do not have the legal right to vote, people who don't even exist. Suppression, are you kidding?
When die Obama 'apologize?' I am not aware of that.
He only 'admitted' that the former administration made mistakes. It is not his realm to 'apologize' for mistakes the former adminitration did.
And O does never portray himself as 'miracle worker' and being able to 'heal' everything. Obama is TRYING to put problems back in track.
Thanks for splaining that to me. I wasn't aware of the soldier
killing fellow soldiers. The sign was disrespectful. But, if you think counterposting disrespect for disrespect solves anything go for it. Just proves both people were/are dead wrong.
This is like, he hit me, well he hit me too. HEHE.
reality bites very hard...be aware....
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Nana, are you aware of the conditions in Iraq? sm
Millions of people have lost their lives, lost their limbs, lost their livelihoods, lost their families, lost their electricity, lost their water, lost their homes, etc,, etc. In short they were "shocked and awed" a number of years ago for no good reason whatsoever. What kind of people and society allow children to go homeless and hungry???? You tell me.
You are aware that Obama has always been pro-free-trade?
Granted, not nearly as much so as McCain who wants to expand free trade as much as possible.
"Senator Obama: "I believe in the Free Market. I believe in Capitalism. I believe in Free Trade. I am not worried about us being able to compete anywhere on earth with American workers"-Obama." Too bad, at least Hillary does."
One of the many links to this quote: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/17/171927/342
In case you aren't aware (and I doubt you are)
You're not aware what Biden said about Obama?
There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden. Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words that "Americans are quickly realizing that Barack Obama is not ready to be President." His words. He stood on a stage shoulder to shoulder with Obama and said this very thing at the dem debates.
And, Biden's own words.
"I think he(Obama) can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training" AND......
"If the Democrats think we're going to be able to nominate someone who can win without that person being able to table unimpeachable credentials on national security and foreign policy, I think we're making a tragic mistake..."
About Obama's foreign policy he said..
"Having Talking Points On Foreign Policy Doesn't Get You There."
On Obama's voting against funding for US Troops overseas he said,
"If you tell me I've got to take away this protection for these kids in order to win the election, some things aren't worth it. Some things are worth losing over. That would be worth losing over. Hundreds of lives are being saved and will be saved by us sending these vehicles over which we are funding with this supplemental legislation. And I want to ask any of my other colleagues, would they, in fact, vote to cut off the money for those troops to protect them? That's the right question. This isn't cutting off the war. This is cutting off support that will save the lives of thousands of American troops."
On Obama's leadership in Iraq he said.....
"I Don't Recall Hearing A Word From Barack About A Plan Or A Tactic."
Biden on whether he would meet unconditionally with leaders of rogue states as Obama said he would.....
"Absolutely Positively No." Biden: "Would I make a blanket commitment to meet unconditionally with the leaders of each of those countries within the first year I was elected president? Absolutely positively no."
Oh, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER......There's his undying love for John McCain, "God love 'em".
Biden has called McCain a personal hero and proclaimed that he would run on a McCain ticket. He has praised McCain’s stances on climate change and troop levels in Iraq. He acknowledged that McCain’s approach to foreign policy differs from President Bush’s — everything that flies in the face of lines of attack that Obama has been pushing against McCain. Remember he said he would be "honored to run against him or with him".(meaning McCain).
I mean, this is why the entire Obama/Biden ticket is such a joke...gotta wonder what is going on. Biden does not care for Obama at all nor his beliefs.
Biden thinks more highly of McCain than Obama and has said so.
Didn't you watch the democratic debates?
I am not aware of any daily idiotic Biden statements.
I'd be happy to play that game while you furiously scour the blogs for a snappy comeback in defense of the indefensible. SP is obviously note even vaguely familiar with the US constitution or with the very limited authority the VP office will offer to her. Still, if you insist, feed me some gaffes and give me something to do. It beats the heck out of responding to Obama Moslem terrorist socialist communist unAmerican hate speech.
I am acutely aware of Obama's stand on the issues.
And that is PRECISELY why I voted for him.
Again, regarding France, I'd refer you to the link I supplied, and yes, Bush is, understandably, the reason.
I'm sorry, you are aware of what caused the financial crisis aren't you?
or you will just blame BUSH BUSH BUSH/CHENEY.
Please, do some research.
If my memory serves me, it started going downhill when a democratic congress took over.
Not only that, this MORTGAGE crisis was set into effect by the CLINTON administration and helped by a DEMOCRATIC congress.
Now let me be clear, I do not think Bush was a great president and he made mistakes, but DO NOT tell me that this financial crisis was his doing. I know you are going to flame me, but don't ignore the facts! Actually, that's what liberals do so nevermind, go ahead anyway.
Was not aware of Carla's loss, but your response was completely uncalled for
your response about dead soliders is not only wrong but completely, completely uncalled for.
Try it..It works for me :o)
I havent read their posts for two days and its like a breath of fresh air!
Okay, whatever works for you....
Works for me! :)
nm
That works for me.
Something in the works to get rid of them all. sm
I will probably vote for Nader or Baldwin. No write-ins allowed in my state or I would vote for Ron Paul. Barr is a neocon mole. See the new grassroots effort Voter Bomb.
Here is link:
http://www.voterbomb.com/2008/
I just tried it and it works for me....nm
nm
Here's how it works.
Your prove your own point, that is assuming you have one, other than your typical, run-of-the-mill generic smear orgy. So far, your not doing that great of a job since all you seem to know how to do is belittle. Try a direct answer to the points I hve raised about the nature of the original post, the nasty reply and your defense of it.
I have no ax to grind, no point to prove, only my side of the story to present. I prefer to leave it up to the others to draw their own conclusions.
That's the way that works - nm
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WHATEVER WORKS - DID THEY
CARE ABOUT US WHEN THEY FLEW PLANES INTO OUR BUILDINGS? - GET OVER IT - NEXT WEEK YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO COMPLAIN ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WITH OBAMA MAN IN OFFICE! 
works for me....
your hatred is ugly.
What works for you may not work
If you are a good Christian, good for you; be a shining example of your faith. But if in the process of being a good Christian you trample MY rights and/or faith, well, sorry, that isn't good. THAT is why I believe in the separation of church and state. We are all different and have different levels of development, spiritual and otherwise. God is the ONLY and ultimate judge; I believe we all come before Him to account for our lives. My relationship with God is between Him and me...no one else. I don't think it is the job of my fellow humans to judge me and and tell me, *My religion/faith is better than yours* I don't care how much YOU believe it.
Works for me. But it will never work for you and we all know it. nm
nm
Noone is saying prayer alone works, Sim!
nm
works for me too. Now there is a change I could ...
believe in... :)
And I think he works very hard trying to ...
take down a God he doesn't even believe exists by ridiculing people who know He exists. If God doesn't exist, what difference does it make? Methinks he doth protest too much...lol. Lotta guilt there from somewhere. lol.
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