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I hope he goes after Blue Shield - those crooks

Posted By: stuck me for a bill I was covered for. -nm on 2009-02-25
In Reply to: President is going after overblown insurance charges, crooked insurance plans, .....sm - Cyndiee




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I have Blue Shield, and can hardly get them
At least with national, I have a fighting chance to get to see a doctor.
It was blue long ago and turning blue now thanks to OBAMA THE HERO
nm
Crooks are crooks....like Bill Clinton...
like Frederick Raines...Like jamie Gorelick....there are crooks on both sides. We all know that. the Dems Enron was coming, it was just a matter of time. It's here.
Neocon human shield
You are the one who is so PRO WAR, why dont you become a human shield and go to Iraq and help the unfortunate people we have destroyed and stop spouting your hate and baloney here.  Im anti war, 100% and anti Bush for sure..I hope Bush rots in hell along with his family because they could have talked some sense into him.  They all should go to Iraq if they believe so much in the *noble mission*..Oh, wait a minute, what is the mission?  WMD?, Nah, liberating Iraq and creating a Demcracy, nah, never gonna happen. 
I have my shield up so go ahead FLAME AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nm
blue:red
Likewise
Don't care if you are red, blue or in
grateful for today! Sure looks better than Friday!
Ole Tn girl myself also and I am a blue
dot in a red state right next to you now. Whereabouts in TN are you? I am glad to say my property taxes are going down this year from over 2,000 to 800- well I have become old enough they believe I no longer have children in public school so am finally getting a break. My property assessment comes out really close to the end of the year so will have some bubbly later on to celebrate. Long time coming!
Since when is Georgia a blue state?
Just wondering.
And even though my property value went down in a blue state...
my taxes still went up. That's what goes on in a Democratic-controlled state. They sent my assessment that valued my home at $40,000--yes $40K less than last year and my taxes STILL went up. And you can bet property taxes in Washington are higher than those in Tennessee. I can't rent my home out for what my payment is, so each month, we lose money because we can't sell it with the housing market the way it is and did the right thing when we financed, by NOT financing a home we could not afford with an ARM. Luckily, we got a really good deal, so the house is still worth more than we paid for it, but not much and it doesn't really matter anyway because, like I said, we can't sell it. I think that I would be happy if your property values stayed the same, rather than falling.
Q. What’s black and blue and dead all over?

A. Anyone who dares to tell a joke about President Obama in public.


  It's funny cause it's true...


But such a lovely blue folder!
What a bunch of whack jobs those Republicans are! I hear that there was a lovely picture of a windmill in the folder but no numbers. Now that's the kind of budget the Republicans can vote for!

Maybe the final Republican budget will be done as a pictorial, so their base can understand it without every having been taught to read.
It has to do with crooks & liars.
I see them linked here a lot and I put them right up there with DU and Daily Kos. 
And hopefully neither will lying crooks
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Chicago crooks
right after the major Texas crooks.
You obviously have no problem with crooks
nm
I have a problem with crooks...(sm)

as does the rest of the country, which is why the republican party is going down the tubes.  They have been voted off the island.  LOL.


Spoken like a true blue member of the
Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-blah!
If they wear red, white and blue, they are not REQUIRED to
.
I'm just so glad I live in a BLUE state, and not
"

crooks and liars.com... why am I not surprised....sm
Speaking of crooks and liars, where are Bill and Hillary Clinton's??????



Am more concerned about ALL the Chicago crooks!
nm
how's about them Arkansas crooks who live in NY now, too.....nm

Guess it's time to move to a blue state then huh?


White people with blue eyes caused this
According to Brazil's President "White people with blue eyes causes the economic crisis".

Glad I've got hazel eyes. Whew! Glad to know it's not my fault.



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What does crooks and criminals have to do with Cynthia McKinney? sm
She is going exactly what I would want her to do - HER JOB! 50% of Americans have asked for this. She is fully aware of the attacks from the media, etc. that lie ahead. See quote below:

From her inquiries into election fraud in 2000 to her calls for a transparent and thorough investigation into 9/11, not to mention the widely covered run-in she had with the Capitol Hill Police, the congresswoman is aware that this resolution will likely be ignored and that she will be ruthlessly attacked upon its filing.

What do you think they are going to do to me this time? she asks her staff. Everyone uncomfortably shifts in their seats, and after no answer comes, McKinney explains: We have to do this because this is simply the right thing to do. The American people do want to hold this man and his office accountable for the crimes they have committed, and if no member of Congress is willing to do it, than I will.


So the voter registration people are crooks and the ....sm
affordable housing people are also crooks? Is there any documetation for this? Somehow this doesn't not logically compute in my mind. Detroit, Chicago, Missouri. I would like to see more documentation.
No danger there. No lying crooks are running.
nm
I'm pretty concerned about the Texas crooks s/m
You know everything is bigger and better in Texas.  Bush/Cheney have pretty much proved to my satisfaction that crooks even grow bigger in Texas.  Chicago crooks will have to get up pretty early to beat 'em.
Obama comes from the group of Chicago crooks.
nm
Crooks? No, look at Chicago and Obama's friends.
nm
Did you ever hear dubya apologize for the crooks and...
incompetent morons he hired? NO. Heck, he wanted to appoint Harriet Myers to the supreme court. Talk about STUPID. Heckuva job brownie. Outing CIA agent. Scooter Libby. Jack Abramoff and his dastardly deeds - need I add to the list?  Choke on that Kool-Aid, PLEASE!
She did rant when Bush was prez. Now everything is blue skies with a big pot'o'change
at the end of the rainbow!
Just to prove my point, from Crooks and Liars website. sm
Joe Scarborough: Republicans want him to SHUT UP

On Joe's show tonight, he went off on Republicans that do not like him speaking out against this administration's handling of Katrina.

Joe: I'm getting lectured from Republicans in Oregon, California, upstate New York, Arizona telling me I need to back off the President, I need to back off of FEMA, I need to back off these state leaders. You and I are on the Gulf Coast- we know how these things are supposed to be run. This has nothing to do with politics...

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The Republicans are obviously worried that this Republican talk show host's point of view isn't following their talking points and is a real problem because he's not a Democrat saying them. Joe has been honest before (Schiavo not included) and is simply exposing their ineptitude that so many people are feeling right now.



Good for Joe! I hope so. And I hope he sues...
the governor of the state of Ohio from now to next week. He should. They BIG time violated his civil rights. If this situation was reversed and he was a Dem who had asked McCain a question and a state had had him investigated, the ACLU would be all over this like ugly on an ape. Liberals only care about other liberals...they could care LESS what happens to conservatives. But yeah, they are all about civil liberties. Geez. Pull the other leg awhile.
Just goes to show the j@ckas@es/crooks running the show!
nm
I sure hope not...I hope he has extra, extra protection sm
I think regardless of which candidate wins they will need extra security this time.
Red state, blue state?

Written last Thanksgiving:  "Some would argue that two different nations actually celebrated: upright, moral, traditional red America and the dissolute, liberal blue states clustered on the periphery of the heartland. The truth, however, is much more complicated and interesting than that.

Take two iconic states: Texas and Massachusetts. In some ways, they were the two states competing in the last election. In the world's imagination, you couldn't have two starker opposites. One is the homeplace of Harvard, gay marriage, high taxes, and social permissiveness. The other is Bush country, solidly Republican, traditional, and gun-toting. Massachusetts voted for Kerry over Bush 62 to 37 percent; Texas voted for Bush over Kerry 61 to 38 percent.

So ask yourself a simple question: which state has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election, with Massachusetts' gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state decadence and moral decay. But in actual fact, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2.4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants. Texas - which until recently made private gay sex a criminal offence - has a divorce rate of 4.1. A fluke? Not at all. The states with the highest divorce rates in the U.S. are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. And the states with the lowest divorce rates are: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont. Every single one of the high divorce rate states went for Bush. Every single one of the low divorce rate states went for Kerry. The Bible Belt divorce rate, in fact, is roughly 50 percent higher than the national average.

Some of this discrepancy can be accounted for by the fact that couples tend to marry younger in the Bible Belt - and many clearly don't have the maturity to know what they're getting into. There's some correlation too between rates of college education and stable marriages, with the Bible Belt lagging a highly educated state like Massachusetts. But the irony still holds. Those parts of America that most fiercely uphold what they believe are traditional values are not those parts where traditional values are healthiest. Hypocrisy? Perhaps. A more insightful explanation is that these socially troubled communities cling onto absolutes in the abstract because they cannot live up to them in practice.

But doesn't being born again help bring down divorce rates? Jesus, after all, was mum on the subject of homosexuality, but was very clear about divorce, declaring it a sin unless adultery was involved. A recent study, however, found no measurable difference in divorce rates between those who are "born again" and those who are not. 29 percent of Baptists have been divorced, compared to 21 percent of Catholics. Moreover, a staggering 23 percent of married born-agains have been divorced twice or more. Teen births? Again, the contrast is striking. In a state like Texas, where the religious right is extremely strong and the rhetoric against teenage sex is gale-force strong, the teen births as a percentage of all births is 16.1 percent. In liberal, secular, gay-friendly Massachusetts, it's 7.4, almost half. Marriage itself is less popular in Texas than in Massachusetts. In Texas, the percent of people unmarried is 32.4 percent; in Massachusetts, it's 26.8 percent. So even with a higher marriage rate, Massachusetts manages a divorce rate almost half of its "conservative" rival.

Or take abortion. America is one of the few Western countries where the legality of abortion is still ferociously disputed. It's a country where the religious right is arguably the strongest single voting bloc, and in which abortion is a constant feature of cultural politics. Compare it to a country like Holland, perhaps the epitome of socially liberal, relativist liberalism. So which country has the highest rate of abortion? It's not even close. America has an abortion rate of 21 abortions per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. Holland has a rate of 6.8. Americans, in other words, have three times as many abortions as the Dutch. Remind me again: which country is the most socially conservative?

Even a cursory look at the leading members of the forces of social conservatism in America reveals the same pattern. The top conservative talk-radio host, Rush Limbaugh, has had three divorces and an addiction to pain-killers. The most popular conservative television personality, Bill O'Reilly, just settled a sex harassment suit that indicated a highly active adulterous sex life. Bill Bennett, the guru of the social right, was for many years a gambling addict. Karl Rove's chief outreach manager to conservative Catholics for the last four years, Deal Hudson, also turned out to be a man with a history of sexual harassment. Bob Barr, the conservative Georgian congressman who wrote the "Defense of Marriage Act," has had three wives so far. The states which register the highest ratings for the hot new television show, "Desperate Housewives," are all Bush-states.

The complicated truth is that America truly is a divided and conflicted country. But it's a grotesque exaggeration to say that the split is geographical, or correlated with blue and red states. Many of America's biggest "sinners" are those most intent on upholding virtue. In fact, it may be partly because they know sin so close-up that they want to prevent its occurrence among others. And some of those states which have the most liberal legal climate - the Northeast and parts of the upper MidWest - are also, in practice, among the most socially conservative. To ascribe all this to "hypocrisy" seems to me too crude an explanation. America is simply a far more complicated and diverse place than crude red and blue divisions can explain.


have to say hope you are so right!
nm
I hope so, too.
Can only hope and pray.
sure hope this comes out.

Certainly something nice for kids to see a president do, flash the birdie. 


 



It would be my hope---

That a concerted effort would have ALWAYS been made to keep bashing down on BOTH sides by the moderator.


I noticed that the posts below one of my recent entries were all deleted.  It makes me feel bad that the time and effort put into those posts were lost.  I guess that's the chance we take on a privately-moderated forum and I should have been prepared for that.


I really really hope that you..

or anyone in your family never become disabled in any way, that no one in your family will marry or adopt a minority member, that mental illness or mental deficiency never crosses your doorstep, that someone in your family converts to another faith, that you never lose your job, your savings, your house, your car or anything else you hold dear. I hope you never lose your family and/or friends and have to go it alone. I hope you are never put into a situation where you are frightened and have not a clue what to do. I hope you never lose health or home or car insurance or are rejected for a claim you might make and have to pay yourself and find that you can't. I hope you and your family never make a mistake, especially one that is made public in any way. I do not think those of you who are always pounding the **victim** **entitlement** drum would have absolutely no idea how to deal with what great numbers of Americans deal with every day. The real arrogance is that you believe you have arrived at this superior status on your own.  Most of us were born with a leg up; a lot of us were not.  Those with the leg up got a big free jump ahead 300 spaces. We were born into the families we were, in the country we were and Creator, not us, is responsible for that. 


As far as the people in Lebanon, they flew in to the Beirut airport of their own accord. Since the airport was blown up, other measures needed to be explored. What would you have done??


Let us hope you are also the last.
This is the liberal board and you are to refrain from personal attacks.  I am sure you will now make endless excuses about the nasty comments made regarding Raven/Lurker's ideology (as well as anyone else foolish enough to post on a LIBERAL board daring to espouse a LIBERAL philosophy), and the Liberal board will once again because a far right-wing poster child for short-sighted philosophy of war and dumbfoundingly ignorant accusations against all Democrats/liberals/or-anyone-with-half-a-brain-who-has-a-conscience.  I await this result, ad nauseum.
I hope you are right - I truly am.
You are correct. I cannot stand either of them. It literally makes me ill to watch them. Don't ask me why because I just can't put my finger on it, but when she or Bill is speaking I find my stomach gets nauseous - and I voted for him the first time he ran. I was for him for about his first 2 years in office, then I started learning more and more about he and Hillary and what their plans were. Guess I was blinded by the lies and when it all started coming out I realized the person he was as president and the person who ran for president were two different people. I think its just basically because they are such manipulating liars and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone believes anything they say. I have not yet found anything they say to be credible. You know when everyone talks about Richard Nixon they'll say what a bad person he was he was impeached and once he left office nobody paid attention to him. If they mentioned his name all I kept hearing was "impeached, impeached", but when you hear Bill's followers will never say "he was impeached". You know I really didn't have a hard time with them at all until after I started reading about their history and all the illegal things they've done throughout their careers to get where they are (and they got away with it). I told my DH, so-n-so went to jail for that, what is keeping these two out, especially when there is proof of what they've done. They'll come out and say such-n-such a person does this or that (eluding to something imoral), when in fact they have done the same exact thing. But then again all politicians do it. It also made me nauseous when we tried explaining to my MIL things he was doing (illegal things) and her only come back was "but he's so cute". That's all she had for an answer to everything. "Hey mom, do you realize he lied to America? and do you realize this was illegal?" - "Yes, but he's so good looking and it was only a little lie". Ignorance like that is just what really irritates me to the core.

I know I have to calm down. I was real calm when I turned off the TV and stopped seeing those two faces, but then I go and turn on the news and they are still in it - so off the TV will go again.

I do understand they are an influential part of politics - why for the life of me I don't know. He's an impeached ex president. Nothing more. He didn't do anything to improve the lives of Americans - he put us deeper in debt. Taxes were the highest when he was in office than anyone can remember. Okay, in all fairness I do give Hillary credit for being the first female to get as far as she has running for present, but that's about all the credit I give her. If her values are to teach young girls that they can lie, cheat and steal to get whatever they want, along with crying when you don't get your own way, telling people you are staying in because an assassination could happen in June and you need to be there to pick up the pieces? (Those were her words no matter what way anyone wants to spin it). Oh my!!! Well that's not a characteristic I would ever want any of my children to daughters to have. Not only through her campaign, but also things she has done and said in her political career and as first lady also factor into why I think she is just a horrible person. At the convention I do see her as an important person (maybe in my last post I didn't think so, but I do think it is important for her to be there), but the impeached ex-president should not. He disgraced the office and the trust that millions (well I don't know if it was millions but it was a lot) had in him. He used his position as president to keep having his affairs, and other stuff he did. I can't even imagine what Monica was thinking when the guy that she was in love with and was sleeping with (even though he was married) when he was asked why he had an affair he said "because I could". Not because I love her, or even because I care about her. No "because I could". The respect he shows towards women is Zero. Everyone will talk about John Edwards, how awful he had an affair. Or John McCain, how awful what he called his wife and what he did to his wife, but people are excusing what Bill Clinton did. Why? Oh I forgot "because he's so good looking". He may do a lot for races (people of color), but I think its all a sham. I don't know about Fox news cos I don't listen to them (got tired of one viewpoint all the time), but just listen to the comments he makes "Barack's only winning because he's black". "Barack won such-n-such an area because that's where Jesse Jackson won", etc, etc. The comments go on and on. His statements he makes in public to me show me that he is a racist and that's why I said he can hide behind his walls but he will always be a racist in my opinion. And giving people of color jobs that didn't even pay enough that they could support themselves and still had to get food stamps, while taking away good paying jobs from other people to ship them over seas (NAFTA), well that also lessened my respect for him and what he was doing to America and American's. He never cared about me or other people in America and the people who were getting the big tax breaks were the 1% of the wealthiest (those same people they claim Bush gives the tax breaks to). My family, my friends, and my families friends were all losing their jobs and houses while he was president. So I guess that's another reason why I can't stand him.

I do think that Hillary might be able to help bring the party together but I really don't believe Bill would. People like to see him speak - sure he is a mesmerizing person (although when I see him the hair on the back of my neck stands up and there is just something creepy and evil about him). I really do not think we should be having someone who disgraced the office of president and was impeached speak at the convention. Go if he wants to of course, but he should not be allowed to speak. Did the republicans have Richard Nixon speak? No because he was impeached and disgraced the office.

I just think those two are the sleeziest couple in politics. Although I do have to say there are a bunch more who are equally as sleezy, but they do stand out at the top.

So those are my lowly opinions. I'm sorry I feel that way, I wish I felt better about them but I just don't.
I truly hope that I never have to

depend on someone else's hard earned money to support myself and my family.  Even if I had to, I would work hard to get back on my own two feet as soon as I could.  I truly do hope things get better because things are truly scary right now.  My husband runs a car dealership and he makes the money in our family.  However, car sales are down so low right now that I don't even want to think about the money he will be losing come bonus check time. 


I just feel like these government programs keep the little guy down.  I thought the whole idea was assist people so they can better their situation and then become self-supporting.  Instead...we have more and more people living off of the government with no plan or intent of trying to better their situation.  They just want that monthly check. 


I just think that taking more money from the hard workers and giving it away doesn't show much incentive to work hard in life.  Why bother.  The more you make, the more they take while people who don't work at all live off of your hard-earned money that is taken away from you. 


Stop enabling people to mooch off of the government.  The numbers will only rise and get worse. 


I hope so
I hope the crap hits the fan and he never steps foot in office.....
did he really do that, oh I hope so...
too bad there could not be an obama/mccain ticket, but not that mccain from the past few months...
I should hope that SP
would remain only an embarrassment to Alaskans rather than becoming embarrassment to the United States of American as I am sure she would/will.
I hope you don't think s/m

that they're just going to accept the SC's decision?  My money will go to bet that now they will start with the "supreme court didn't hear the case; therefore, they did not rule" so the madness will just continue.  Or maybe they'll bring out that old ancient hippy.....who knows but I'll bet these most likely PAID political nut jobs aren't just going to roll over and play dead.


Hope you're feeling better Marmann.


Hope so.
Can't wait until Wednesday, Nov. 5, to find out.