I agree excellent post! One that has to make one think.

• Visualize this scenario. - Lurker
  • I agree excellent post! One that has to make one think. - Democrat
  • Excellent post. Thanks, Lurker. - PK
  • Asking Repubs to use imagination? - MTRE
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I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote.  I hope you keep writing posts like this.  It's one of the reasons I keep visiting this board.

Hope is something that's been lost for some of us for almost a decade now. 

I admit that I'd lost mine, but now I do somewhat have it back.  I want to keep it, and that depends on MY actions and the actions of other Americans who also believe in hope.

I think yesterday's plane wreck in New York into the Hudson River is an excellent example of what truly patriotic Americans do when faced with a deadly situation, and it makes me seriously wonder what some on this board would have done if faced with the same situation.

WE need to change this country if we want change.  We will soon have a President who actually knows "we" exist and that not all Americans are billionaires.  We will have a President who can easily tell you how many homes he owns.  We will have a President who will treat the rest of the world as if they are human beings, certainly something they haven't felt in the last eight years and the main reason why the USA was so hated under Bush. 

It was "us" who voted Obama into office.  I'm (hesitantly) hopeful and happy, and I'm glad I was one of "us," because from what I read on this board, being one of "them" must be a very sad and dreary existence.

Either way, we are ALL Americans, so we can all either get together and help make this country a better place, or some of us can just continue to moan and groan and complain about how bad things will be under a President who has yet to even be sworn in.

I never complained about Bush until he did things to deserve it.  The same with Clinton (and, yes, I DID complain a lot about Clinton's actions which I felt were very disrespectful to the Office of the President).  I will not complain about Obama UNTIL I truly have something to complain about.

He will be the first black American President, and as such, he has a much higher burden to haul than any white guy if there is ever to be a second black American President. 

I'm willing to give him the chance. 

You nailed it again!!! 

"Insults in, insults out."  You nailed it.

Earlier today, I finally got sick and tired of all the insults, and I started firing back.

Then I realized that I had sunk down to their slimy level and became someone I normally am not.

I think if religion is removed from the Politics Board and is put where it belongs, on the Faith Board, this might be a more meaningful place to discuss political ideas.

However, for me, it's become too toxic of a place.  I can't believe these self-described "Christians" harbor so much hatred and rage.  It's really quite frightening at times because I'm not sure there's a limit to what they are willing to do to get their way and overturn the will of the American people.

I think I'm much better off leaving this board for a while and letting the goodness and happiness of life flow back into me because each time I visit here, it really brings me down.

I feel sorry for these people.  I hope they someday can look into their hearts and souls and feel some happiness and joy.  You are right that their hatred isn't contagious, but neither is joy and happiness.  That has to come from within, and I suppose, with all the rage and hate they possess, there just isn't enough room for goodness and light to enter.

Your posts are great.  Please keep posting.  As for me, I just can't take this hatred any more and need (at least) a break. 

Fear and ignorance.  The only way Bush knows how to lead.

Liberals run in tolerant circles.  The thought of others letting them *get away* with their own personal freedom of speech doesn't even occur to them.  They don't demand that every single American follow in step and say the *right* words...or else.  They promote truth and honesty and detest dirty tricks and lies that are designed to benefit the rich, while the poor work harder and get poorer.

I remember once upon a time when people like that were called Americans!

And 100% accurate.  I was reading the same posts you were reading.  Anything -- and I mean ANYTHING -- they could do to obstruct, they did, just as the Congressional Republicans are doing now.

Obama has kept his word about bipartisanship and has tried to include the Republicans -- meeting with them several times -- but it's a waste of time because they're more interested in obstructing everything Obama does instead of working together with him.

It seems as if some Republican governors are at least giving Obama a chance and trying to work together with him, or at least the Republican governors who care about the citizens they govern do.  I think most people can see the pathetic tantrums thrown by Congressional Republicans for what it is.

As far as Bush, I never voted for him, but I wasn't against him, either, at first.  In fact, the day he stood in that rubble at "Ground Zero" with that megaphone, I actually began to respect him.

However, that was short lived because once I realized that he was incapable of telling the truth, I lost any trust for him that I had had.  It was his ACTIONS that made me feel that way, not his party affiliation.

The PALPABLE hatred for Obama is overwhelming on this board and has been since well before the election.

(Obama now has the same powers that Bush had.  Perhaps THAT'S the problem!)  

Are you saying that the conservatives believe only videos portray the truth?  Then wouldn't the videotape of soldiers being interviewed for 60 MInutes also be the truth then?

Military Times is not a military newspaper and does not speak for servicemen?  Who does it cater to primarily if not the military?  Hairdressers??????  Medical transcriptionists????    Yes, it is privately owned and is a Gannett publication.  While their survey may not be the most scientific thing ever done it still has merit.  See below:

 A poll for the Military Times newspapers, which questioned 6,000 randomly selected active-duty members, gives us a much better sense. In case the myth that military personnel still widely support the president's policy hadn't been debunked enough, these results should do the trick.

Barely one in three service members approve of the way the president is handling the war, according to the new poll for the four papers (Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Times). In another startling finding, only 41% now feel it was the right idea to go to war in Iraq in the first place.

And the number who feel success there is likely has shrunk from 83% in 2004 to about 50% today. A surprising 13% say there should be no U.S. troops in Iraq at all. [...]

Nearly three-quarters of the respondents think today's military is stretched too thin to be effective.

As for the escalation, only 38% of those surveyed believe more troops should be sent to Iraq, while 39% think there should be the same number or less than there are now. (The rest said they didn't know.)