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Did you miss where the people of California

Posted By: Kendra on 2009-04-07
In Reply to: Actually our representatives do represent the people - New Englander

voted against gay marriage? And yet, the courts usurped the people's wishes.


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I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm
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I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm.
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Here's the thing that most people miss....(sm)

In my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you not agreeing with homosexuality, thinking its wrong, immoral, etc.  If you don't want to associate with them, that's fine.  Don't do it. 


Here's the problem though.  More often than not, people with opinions like yours feel that they have to force that opinion on everyone.  That's where the problem is. I believe in live and let live, not live and make others live like you.


As has half (or more) of California.
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I only heard about California so far.

I would love to file early but my tax guy seems to put us on the end of the list. April 15, we get ours done with no chance to look it over before its sent because he does electronic filling.


No worries here, though. We always owe. No matter how hard or how much we pay in during the year, we still owe at the end. Haven't gotten a refund for 10 years.


Oh, wait!!!! I LIED!!!! We just got a check for $6.84 cause we overpaid what we owed. Wow! I'm gonna run right out and buy a six pack of beer.


 Hubby wants to frame it and not cash it. Told him he better cash it. Might be the last one we ever recieve. I can always make a photocopy of it.


Say no veterinary tax in California
Please Call & keep Schwarzenegger from gouging animal families to balance the budget.

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Go Gov. Palin - looks like California is on the right track

Good article.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/MNPP130KA7.DTL&feed=rss.news


 


I am a California Republican and I disagree!
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Depends on what part of California - sm
it's like 2 states sometimes. The central portion of the state: Central Valley in the north, Orange County in the south, chock full of narrow-minded midwest transplants, many of whom are evangelical christians. The coast and mountains have more progressive and free-thinking people. (Also the more highly-educated, as a rule). You couldnt pay me to live anywhere but on the Calif. coast.
Arizona is like a suburb of California these
days.  I know what you mean about those shirts too!  Even in winter, the Californians are wearing their flipflops.  People from other states are amazed to find out it actually snows in Arizona.  Frosty can live a long time out here in the wintertime!
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage.
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County. People forget that there is more to California than the southern parts.
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County.
The picture was taken in California at an ANSWER convention. SM

You may remember the incident when the war first started and a soldier threw a grenade into a tent killing several other soldiers, including, I believe an officer.  This lovely show of support for the soldiers was on display at that convention. 


Another interesting tidbit from this election...California...
voted to ban gay marriage.  California!  Well, bet that was a bit of a shock to most folks out there.  What happens now to all those gays Gavin Newsom married?  Wonder if this one will make its way to the Supreme Court so another vote of the people will be overridden by a legislating from the bench group?  I know one thing...they won't be sending it to THIS court.  They will wait for the one Obama hopes to put in.  How very interesting in California...in with Obama, out with gay marriage.  Hmmm.
And thank goodness California's failed; dont want
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All the handouts we give them in California has helped our
No tax-refunds this year for those of us who work hard, pay taxes, and actually live here legally. This year all we get is *IOU's*.
Makes me want to staple an "IOU" to my California

I grew up in California and it is a real problem...
They end up closing down emergency rooms because they can't turn away illegals who need medical help and most don't pay. Don't know anything about PA, but it seems to be pretty bad here in Nebraska where I have been lioving since December.
I live in California, I know all about illegal aliens.
I have a much bigger problem with our government murdering people overseas with unjust wars.

By the way, exactly what jobs are they taking away from American citizens...picking fruits and vegetables in hot fields, scrubbing toilets in big office buildings, washing dishes at fancy restaurants? Illegal aliens do the dirty jobs that American citizens are too arrogant to do.
Nancy Pelosi flies back home to California on our dime...
what's your point?
She said SOME or did you miss that? nm

Man!! I miss everything! nm

What did I miss? nm
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Ya, then none of us would have to miss
That would just suck.
Did you miss something?
Yea, some moron found a you tube clip and her religion was an issue over and over ad nauseum in the media, of which I'm sure you paid attention to.

I have based my opinion on his background, not his color. He has a very very very questionable background, being brought up in Islamic faith. That's NOT a little thing. If you don't like the religious aspect of it, too bad. When Muslim belief says all who are not Muslim are to be killed, you better believe I pay attention. When I see one after another terrorist (even home grown) being his buddies, I'll pay attention and question why.

Dense and ignorant will ignore anything Muslim, because most liberals don't care about God anyway, but his real beliefs and upbringing that has been proven over and over again are a big concern for me.

You might open your eyes when or if he is in office and all those cabinet positions have to be filled and all you see are names you can't even pronounce, because they all have questionable citizenship to this country, questionable middle eastern relationships with those involved in terorrist organizations, etc.

Then you can wonder where this country is really going and maybe you'll have bigger fish to fry then.
No, I did not miss that -
I addressed that part when I said that people who would not pay taxes already do not pay taxes!

There are many, many people who never pay a penny into taxes and get $5000 to $6000 refunds every year for EIC. That is nothing new.
MAN what did I miss???
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What'd I miss?
So I've been gone for a few days (almost a week I guess!)

Any good bits I need to check out? Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I think my eyes are orange from all the pumpkin pie I ate!!
So do I (miss sam)

I don't post very often anymore because of the same reasons. You're bashed constantly for your views. This is no longer a politics board as you said.


I'm at least willing to see what O does BUT, I caught a bit of his Phila. speech and he stated we need to change the Declaration of Independence. Huh? I hope I didn't hear that correctly.


I'm also sick of seeing all the garbage that's being pushed with his face on it, like he's some kind of God and how the whole world is going to tune into his inaugaration and celebrate. Saw where one woman in Kenya had a skirt on with his picture on it. It fit right over her butt. I got a kick out of that.


Yes, I miss her also...................nm
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Try not to miss me too much...(sm)
Gone on vacation.  Hope you all (even the ones that hate me...lol) have a good week    . 
didn't miss anything....
but I want to know why we haven't heard more of cronie Rove?  I knew that would be shoved under the rug as they are wanting that scandal will go away.  That's why the "early" nomination of Roberts.  So see-through they stink!
I will miss Tim Russert. sm
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Yup, you still miss the point...oh well....nm

Did I miss something important? AS is a pub gov
He ran under the pub ticket and was elected by Californian pubs and other star-struck Californians. Do you disagree with the idea that repulicans come in different flavors or should I be translating you message from Christian right-wing fringe-speak to mean roughly "my way or the highway" on what it means to be a REAL republican?
did you miss the part where
this lady had a B for Obama carved in her head by a black man (not that his race really matters, so lets not start calling me a racist). I doubt that it was Republical propaganda about Obama being a Muslim that caused such a thing and I find it offensive that everyone keeps talking about Palin's looks. Honestly, it's not as if she is really all that good looking, just better looking than Hillary. Might not be racism, but it is a bit of sexism. If this had been a black woman attacked by a McCain supporter, I still would not understand you stance, but at least it wouldn't be from out of nowhere.
Did I miss anything good?

Okay, I have been gone for 2-1/2 days.  My son graduated from boot camp this morning and I was at Fort Jackson - LOVE OUR SOLDIERS!!!! 


Don't really have time to go through all those days - but if there is something good I missed, point me there please?


Me too. I am not a democrat, but I think I miss
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Did you miss this part? s/m

" She was fired early this year over personal expenses she had put on the group's credit card."


Nice try but no sale.


Are you kidding me...and miss all the fun?
I could do this until the polls open if need by, but I think you can get the general drift:
1. “I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’” –Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor’s office without approval of the city council.
2. SP: RNC Convention: “I told the Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere.” who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.
3. SP: RNC: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated
4. SP: “Absolutely. Yup, yup.” after being asked by People magazine if she was ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency
5. SP: July 2008: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” interview with CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co”
6. SP: "A Vice President has a really great job because not only are they there to support the President's agenda, they're like the team member--the team mate--to that president. But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to, they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better..." Palin told Denver's KUSA-TV on Monday,
7. August 2008: SP: “A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.” dismissing global warming as influenced by human activity, Newsmax interview.
8. 09/09/2008: SP claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." Operated as private companies, not taxpayer funded. Fundamental ignorance of a key issue that will face the next administration.
9. 09/11/2008: SP: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” –Sarah Palin, on her foreign policy insights into Russia, ABC News interview,
10. 09/11/2008: SP: “Perhaps so.” when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the Georgia crisis, ABC News interview.
11. 09/11/2008: “I have not, and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you.” after being asked if she had never met a foreign head of state, despite the fact that every vice president in the last 32 years had met a foreign head of state prior to taking office, ABC News interview
12. 09/11/2008: “In what respect, Charlie?” after being asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, ABC News interview
13. 09/11/2008: SP: “Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” –Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent,
14. 09/11/2008: “You’ll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.” linking the Iraq war the 9/11 attacks while addressing U.S. soldiers shipping off to Iraq, Fairbanks, Alaska. Gee. And all this time we thought it was those WMDs.
15. 09/17/2008: SP: “Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.” SP...billed by John McCain as the nation’s foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan.
16. 09/24/2008: “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” When asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years.
17. 09/24/2008: "our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia … We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.”when asked by Katie Couric how Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience.

Did you miss his credentials? sm
Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the California Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964.

I think a doctorate in geology does suffice.
Did you miss the point?
Without government interference, there would never have been subprime loans in the first place! The banks couldn't afford them!!! Now, that is correctness!
You really did miss my whole point entirely.
I didn't defend alcohol being legal. I said, in effect, "Do two wrongs make a right?"

I'm sorry you wasted all those keystrokes.
I did not miss your point at all
You either love all men as God teaches or you don't. I don't think God says to love them all - except for this group or that group. Nope, God says to love ALL men. There are no exceptions to that.
Swing and a miss...again...(sm)
It has always been a right for people to marry who they wish to marry.  Being gay does not make them any less of a person.
Bye Bye Miss American Pie..sigh..

Hi, Anon!!  :o)


I warned my republican friends..YIPES??  I have republican friends?  Yes, and three of them now have told me the war was wrong and Bush is frightening.


Anyway, I warned my republican friends and everyone else that if Bush got in office the first time, the country would change drastically and he would destroy America and the world (okay maybe that was a little over the top..but not really)..I see us women going back to being bare foot and pregnant in the kitchen and the men coming home in loin cloths and billy clubs (umm..well, maybe that might be nice.smile)..


 


Honestly, you didn't miss much.
It was not one of his better shows, but he still cracks me up!
Did someone miss their morning meds?...nm


So, Miss Thang is a mindreader too.
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Aplogies to Jon for miss spelling his name
 . . . also love Stephen Colbert and Whoopi and Joy on the View (not so carzy about Elizabeth), and also now truly in love with Keith Olberman (sp?) on Countdown.