I grew up in California and it is a real problem...
Posted By: Kendra on 2009-01-27
In Reply to: I live in PA and not in a city. - Backwards typist
They end up closing down emergency rooms because they can't turn away illegals who need medical help and most don't pay. Don't know anything about PA, but it seems to be pretty bad here in Nebraska where I have been lioving since December.
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I used to know it all, just like you, then I grew up (sm)
and realized I was wrong. You will too. Let's hope our country is still free by that point in time so you can still express your views, once you have truly learned what your views are.
I grew up on..............sm
peas grown in my Dad's garden and cornbread cooked in my mom's stove.
My Dad was the sole breadwinner in our family of 4 and Mom was a magician when it came to stretching Dad's paycheck to provide the family with all that we NEEDED. We learned early on in life that there was a large distinction between our NEEDS and our WANTS. Our menu was very basic, like yours, beans and cornbread, peas, chicken and dumplings, etc. The only time we had steaks was when Dad had a steer butchered when he had cattle. We also raised hogs at one time for meat. My mother made every stitch of clothes I wore almost until I left home, including my prom dresses. She would have made my wedding dress, but we lived on a red dirt road and she just knew that my white dress would no longer have been white had she made it. But we did find the perfect dress at a bridal shop on sale for $100.....remember this was 1978, LOL. She could not have sewn it for that, even if we had lived on a paved road!
Still, with all that, I never knew I grew up poor until I was well past grown and looked back over some of the events of my childhood. We were rich in love and family and faith in God.
Part of the problem with the welfare system, and America in general, is that we have been offered so many choices for so long, that we have become greedy and feel entitled to have anything we want, regardless of whether we can afford it or not. That, I fear, is not something that welfare reform or legislation can change.
Yes, my income grew after 2001...nm
Moved home, and I took my primary account home with me as an IC, and then promptly found two other accounts. I've always worked more than one job, and being at home is no different. And it's always been just me doing the work, no one else.
However, in the last two years, since dems have had control of Congress, my income has plummeted by 20,000. The most I ever made was close to $80,000 a year, and that was working 12 hours a day, every day, seven days a week.
Now, I have to work more day, get paid less, and make somewhere around $55 or 60,000.
I'm an IC MT/editor/QA type person, who does all three, for different clients, depending on who I work for.
Not an MTSO, but took advantage of all the tax breaks for small businesses, as well as HSA account for health purposes, just for my husband and myself.
Soooo...to answer your question to sam....Yes, I did well in the first four years after 9/11. I work my butt off, to be able to live where I do. We're middle class America....but dropping fast.
I cannot afford to have more taxes. I cannot afford to pay for more social programs for those who do not work.
As someone said recently on this board. Why should I work my butt off to make $60,000 a year, to be told I am in an upper middle class bracket, and have to dole out thousands more in taxes to the people who refuse to work? (And if they can't work, there are progrmas for them) I'd do just as well working only 40 hours a week, instead of the 80 to 100 I do work.
Do not believe for a moment, that Obama knows what he's doing for the economy. It's all a subterfuge to raise taxes anything that isn't tied down, and then some. A one time tax rebate to lower and middle America, to buy their votes. Then tax, tax, tax.
No thanks.
She actually grew up middle class
and made her own money. Then married Sir Rothschild. Why couldn't I have found a guy like that?!?
I grew up in extreme poverty myself - I am only 40 - I know (sm)
I know what the world is really like. I am not superficial. You just have no idea what you are talking about. I AM being a resonsible American and this is not nonsense. That is the confusion here.
It didn't say he grew up in Pakistan
Big difference.
I don't mind you asking. I grew up north of ...
Sallisaw, Oklahoma. About 23-24 miles from Fort Smith down Interstate 40. Arkansas border to the north at Siloam Springs...to the east Fort Smith. Beautiful part of the country. I hope to go back some day.
Never been to the casino at Siloam, but I have been gone from that area quite awhile. There was an antique/flea market kind of place there in Siloam I used to like to go to...browse for hours. lol.
As to Buy American...yep, and they tried to keep it that way for a long time. And I know you don't want to hear this...but every time Democrats got control of congress taxes went up, especially on corporations...and you have to do something to compete.
And you have to face it...there would be millions of Americans without jobs if it weren't for Wal-Mart. They are a huge part of the American economy. :)
I grew up with guns in the house.
My father had gun racks and he always kept one rifle loaded in case someone tried to break into the house. All three of us kids knew it and we also knew not to touch it. My dad taught us how to shoot, the safe way to use guns, and what NOT to do with a gun. I think the problem with a lot of gun related accidents is that parents hide the guns and don't teach their kids the dangers and how to properly handle guns.
If you take guns away from the law-abiding citizens....it won't stop the criminals from getting them and then we will have nothing to protect ourselves with. That is common sense really. It will just create an even bigger black market for guns and only the unlawful citizens will buy them illegally like that which will leave the lawful citizens unprotected from criminals.
Question: When the economy GREW the 4 years after
Job security? Standard of living? Most likely not, unless you happen to live in India.
I grew up Baptist, and we thoroughly studied both books
And, as always, we picked and chose that which we would apply to our lives, and how we would interpret what it said.
You know the only things I took away from my childhood religion?
"Love your sisters and brothers."
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
"Do unto others as you would have done to you."
And having studied the Nag Hammadi library, which gave much, much more insight into what Jesus recommended, it seems as if that - believe it or not - is exactly what he meant.
So when you say someone is "wrong," you are judging them. When you are asking someone to change their lives to accommodate your beliefs, you are doing unto them something you're asking not be done to you. And I believe we can agree that love is unconditional (something I believe 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 alluded to), regardless of what other's choices are - even if you disagree with them.
Well, I say good for him! 'Bout time somebody grew
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What makes you think that everyone who believes in Jesus grew up in the church?
I most definitely did not, and it is an absolute MIRACLE that I even came to the Lord. My parents are as far from Christ as can be. I literally came to Christ "kicking and screaming". I did not want to believe in him. Mostly because I did not want to have to follow HIS rules. But I am here, and I am saved, and I thank God that I am! It is the best thing to ever happen to my SOUL.
No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
As has half (or more) of California.
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I only heard about California so far.
I would love to file early but my tax guy seems to put us on the end of the list. April 15, we get ours done with no chance to look it over before its sent because he does electronic filling.
No worries here, though. We always owe. No matter how hard or how much we pay in during the year, we still owe at the end. Haven't gotten a refund for 10 years.
Oh, wait!!!! I LIED!!!! We just got a check for $6.84 cause we overpaid what we owed. Wow! I'm gonna run right out and buy a six pack of beer.
Hubby wants to frame it and not cash it. Told him he better cash it. Might be the last one we ever recieve. I can always make a photocopy of it. 
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Go Gov. Palin - looks like California is on the right track
Good article.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/09/21/MNPP130KA7.DTL&feed=rss.news
I am a California Republican and I disagree!
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Depends on what part of California - sm
it's like 2 states sometimes. The central portion of the state: Central Valley in the north, Orange County in the south, chock full of narrow-minded midwest transplants, many of whom are evangelical christians. The coast and mountains have more progressive and free-thinking people. (Also the more highly-educated, as a rule). You couldnt pay me to live anywhere but on the Calif. coast.
Arizona is like a suburb of California these
days. I know what you mean about those shirts too! Even in winter, the Californians are wearing their flipflops. People from other states are amazed to find out it actually snows in Arizona. Frosty can live a long time out here in the wintertime!
Did you miss where the people of California
voted against gay marriage? And yet, the courts usurped the people's wishes.
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage.
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County. People forget that there is more to California than the southern parts.
I am originally from California and personally know...
many people who voted for the proposition against gay marriage--none of them from Orange County.
The picture was taken in California at an ANSWER convention. SM
You may remember the incident when the war first started and a soldier threw a grenade into a tent killing several other soldiers, including, I believe an officer. This lovely show of support for the soldiers was on display at that convention.
Another interesting tidbit from this election...California...
voted to ban gay marriage. California! Well, bet that was a bit of a shock to most folks out there. What happens now to all those gays Gavin Newsom married? Wonder if this one will make its way to the Supreme Court so another vote of the people will be overridden by a legislating from the bench group? I know one thing...they won't be sending it to THIS court. They will wait for the one Obama hopes to put in. How very interesting in California...in with Obama, out with gay marriage. Hmmm.
And thank goodness California's failed; dont want
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All the handouts we give them in California has helped our
No tax-refunds this year for those of us who work hard, pay taxes, and actually live here legally. This year all we get is *IOU's*.
Makes me want to staple an "IOU" to my California
I live in California, I know all about illegal aliens.
I have a much bigger problem with our government murdering people overseas with unjust wars.
By the way, exactly what jobs are they taking away from American citizens...picking fruits and vegetables in hot fields, scrubbing toilets in big office buildings, washing dishes at fancy restaurants? Illegal aliens do the dirty jobs that American citizens are too arrogant to do.
I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm
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I agree, that's why Adam lost. Counteracting Miss California!...nm.
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Nancy Pelosi flies back home to California on our dime...
what's your point?
wrong again - I did not say grew up in Paky, I said "was" in Paky.
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to clarify - NO to fed laws superseding laws of State of California against voters
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Get real. sm
Have you heard the new saying....everyone knew Foley was a Republican because he resigned and said he was sorry. Democrats just never do that. As far as the New York Times, I would say their past pretty much makes anything they print questionable...can we say Jayson Blair. Also, the fact that they published articles that put this country at risk is pretty egregious but then that's just me, a stupid old Republican.
Are you for real
That has got to be the most bigoted thing I ever heard. Who gives a you know what what his middle name is. I guess if you say it enough times some ignorant person is going to believe it...yeah, look at his middle name....can't vote for him. Well what do you think a middle name for a President should be. Sheesh! You know I don't even have any idea what Bush's middle name is or what Bill Clinton's middle name was (oh wait, think it was Jefferson). I don't know what AL Gore's middle name or John Kerry's either. But that's not the point! To me it sounds like you only want someone in there who has a "Christian" name? Please do let me know what a Christian name is. I know...why don't you pick one out and then send that suggestion to the campaign trail.... Man o man...give the guy a break - less we forget...He is half white/ half African American, he is a Christian, goes to a Christian church, swore oath on the Bible, etc, etc. This candidate is the first person in a long time who give people hope. He doesn't have to read speaches from notes, can think on his feet and is a better speaker than the other two weezles, but that discussion is for another board. I did read your post that says your not for or against him, but I'm just highly dissapointed in anyone who thinks this way, and as for your antichrist comment. You should be ashamed of yourself!
LOL for real
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for real, though
to drive a car for goodness sake
Maybe she was just being real.
What I felt and saw was a woman who loves her husband and family. I think it was very difficult for her to talk about her family to the nation, especially her father. I can relate to that having lost mine four years ago. I still miss him.
I, too, can also talk slang and choose my words and enunciate when needed. I did not take offense to anything she said. She just clearly loves her family and said so.
Yes, there is a lot of negativity in this race, but isn't there always? I have been voting for a long time (I'm 50) and that's just politics. It is a contest.
R U for REAL?!
She literally looked like a "moose" caught in the headlights!? People were smiling because she was so clueless?! I don't know what debate YOU watched.  Obama will be elected, very soon!!!! Can't wait!!!
This is not the 60s. This is for real and its
going to contine to happen and get worse if we elect Obama.
If you are not repulsed by the video then I just say shame, shame, shame.
a real
This is absolutely a repeat of the great depression, only with modern twists and turns. Everyone should do everything they can do or can think of to prepare.
Is this real?
This is scary as H___. I would like to know if anyone has more info on this. Any "other side" to contradict this? Could be reason to pull it out now and pay the fines rather than just let it be taken away.
It does not get more real than
pausing for a moment to admire any man who has the intestinal fortitude to take on the piles and piles of garbage W has set out on the back stoop, waiting for pick-up. The economy, the wars, an immediate foreign policy crisis, the bail-outs, crumbling infrastructure, health care crisis, eroded constitution and abysmal world standing perceptions. It doesn't get more real than that.
This is my real ID
I always use my real ID that I use here. I'm not afraid...
Just saw it on CNN too. This is real!
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Are you for real?
Dear, do you not realize that the president of the United States is SUPPOSED to be judged by us, the American citizen? That is exactly what we are supposed to do......do you have any idea what your position is in society and what position government is supposed to have? Obviously not or you would know that you have every right being judge and jury of your president, regardless of whom he/she is. Presidents in THIS country are determined by thge people.... Obama may think he is royalty but he isn't; therefore, he has no rights of royalty. He wasn't born into this position......HE WAS ELECTED!!! And in four years, he will be kicked out.... simple as that!
Is he for real?
In speaking about Iran, Obama actually said people should have a "govt that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people.......freedom to live as you choose" What a hypocrit! Transparency!!??? This man yapped about transparency of government yet has NEVER done so since being elected!
Steal from the people? What the h@ll does he call trillions and trillions of taxpayer dollars that he has stolen from us to give to automakers, banks, ACORN, and now just plain taxing the crap out of us to pay for all of it, not to mention govt healthcare he is trying to force down my throat.....
What world is he living in? 
Let's just keep things real. That is all I am saying. NM
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