I am a smoker...(sm)

Posted By: Just the big bad on 2009-01-14
In Reply to: Actually I don't think it's fair that smokers bear the brunt of paying for children's healt - ChiaPet

I don't think it's too bad of an idea. However, I think a better idea would be to use that annual 2.4 billion that Bush pledged to Israel in 2007.

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That's 3 Obama's gotten right..(sm) - Just the big bad
- And the score is..... - Just me
  - Try again....(sm) - Just the big bad
    - Now, now...don't confuse them with FACTS. - Marmann
- Health insurance for children up to age 30... - sm
  - I cannot find anything that documents - your claim.
    - That's because it is pure hogwash. - Not an ounce of truth to it. nm
      - I found it. I just needed to change - my search parameters.
        Private insurance and SCHIPS not the same. - sm
        Ummm, the part about raising the coverage - age is about state funded insurance.
        Err, you mean the link to Commonwealth Fund report - a PRIVATE foundation? sm
        You don't know that under certain circumstances - SCHIP is used to cover adults?
        Yes, I know and agree with you. That's why - sm
      - No it's not. Use google, if you dare. Some states are raising the age to 30 - sm
        Ummm. Hello. Anybody home? SCHIPS is not private insurance. - FEDERAL guidelines have not changed and
        Umm, Hello? No one was talking about - private insurance.
        Err, yes they were. Better clean off those specs and - take another gander. sm
  - I do. Leaves the door wide open for blatant health care fraud.. - liberals won't want to acknowledge that though.
    - How? - Just Curious
    - I can acknowledge - sm
    - How about being a bit more specific? - SCHIPS is administered just like
      - I believe you just answered your own question - sm
        So are you seriously suggesting that - there is no (sm)
        I have no problem with health care for "children" - sm
        Hello. They are referring to PRIVATE insurance. - And no, I would not call that fraud. sm
        That article posted above was NOT about - private insurance.
        Might want to inspect the link source - and (sm)
  - Blatent lie is the only thing wrong with this picture. - jj
- Actually I don't think it's fair that smokers bear the brunt of paying for children's healt - ChiaPet
  - Let's stop funding Viagra... - Marmann
  - Smoking is way worse than junk food.......nm - GeorgieGirl
    - But that still doesn't say WHY smokers should pay for this whole program?? sm - ChiaPet
  - I am a smoker...(sm) - Just the big bad
    - I am glad you are not in charge of that - 2.4 billion! It is going
      - ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! - Just the big bad
        You need to look back a little further! - Then add'em all up. nm
        I am really flattered.....(sm) - Just the big bad
        Re: alert the media - woofer
        LOL.....(sm) - Just the big bad
        I wouldn't do such a thing to someone I like...whaddya think I am - a conservative? - woofer
    - It might be a good thing...........sm - m
      - And what happens when more smokers quit? Who is going to pay for the unfunded sm - ChiaPet
      - Bingo. Give that girl a prize. - jj
      - It probably wouldn't be fair...(sm) - Just the big bad
        I quit because it was expensive, so it might work for some... - Kendra
        4 bucks? We pay 6 in Texas. - nm
- It isnt that simple. What you do is the same as - false advertising, same as Obama.nm
  - Yes it is, no it's not and no he didn't. - jj
  - Yeah, and the closing of Gitmo could be disastrous. - -if you bother to look at the complications.nm
    - Now that's a problem. - sm
      - And this is OUR country, OUR America - How are you helping
        The people in the Bush admin that authorized - war crimes are who smeared our country.
        Oh, stop it. Hey, why dont we just give the terrorists - chocolate -they will give us info.. get real!

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I don't think most smoker's will quit just to

but I agree with you to some extent. I think most American's would be happy to have their taxes raised a little bit if it meant saving the life of even 1 child or improving the health of a chronically ill child. I certainly wouldn't mind having my taxes raised to help children AND the elderly get more affordable healthcare. On the other hand, for now the cigarette tax is a great idea, and if it does help some people quit, more power to them! I'm sure you see the same thing I do in medical reports every day though - people with COPD, asthma, lung cancer - still smoking!! If impending death isn't enough to make a lot of people quit I don't think $1 extra per pack will either.