So are you seriously suggesting that
Posted By: there is no (sm) on 2009-01-14
In Reply to: I believe you just answered your own question - sm
private health, car, property and/or life insurance fraud? At least with government programs, there are stringent safeguards in place that are enforced.
Fact remains that health insurance for CHILDREN should not be any less of a priority than, say, bankrolling Israel's arsenal which, of late, has slaughtered around 400 of them in Gaza in the name of national security and (UA) sponsorship of apartheid state-sponsored terrorism in our Middle East so-called democratic outpost.
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Not doing that. Suggesting to take the debate
where it belongs. That is what also what the article in the OP is staying. Stop spinning and get ready for some perfectly normal political talk. FV, sex ed, abstinence, AB is part of your party platform. Different versions of it are part of Obama's platform. That is where the focus is going to be whether you want to go there or not.
What is your point? Are you suggesting...sm
that Obama or his church had a hand in the murder? I certainly would be upset if two people from my church were murdered but wouldn't think to insinuate my church had something to do with it. Am I misunderstanding you?
I am discounting no one here by suggesting
responsible for rehabilitating their own party and will not be able to get a grip on that as long as they keep playing the blame game and trying to make Obama into some kind of pariah.
If they truly put country first, then then will recognize that we are ALL in crisis mode and our leadership will be needing all the help they can get to stop the hemorrhaging, gain some semblance of stability and start turning our attention on the future rather than the past.
I am weary of tit-for-tat and will be spending these next few weeks trying my best to take my focus off my party and put it back onto the issues I hold most dear. I would not feel I have the luxury to do that were I on the other side of the fence, finding myself in the middle of my party's rubble.
Noone is suggesting that we release ALL of them...(sm)
just the ones we know (and have known) are innocent. Gitmo absolutely has to be closed. At this point it is and always will be a brand for the US. What did the N. Koreans say when asked about the treatment of those 2 girls they have? They said "we aren't Gitmo." That should tell you a lot right there.
The ones who are guilty can easily be imprisoned in the US. We already have terrorists of the worst kind in our prisons, and to date there has never been anyone escape from a maximum security prison. Would they influence other inmates? Possibly. But they can also be separated from other inmates. There is no plausible reason for us not to do this.
Mass murders in Iraq? Are you suggesting our military....
are mass murderers??? So far as I know George Bush has not personally killed anyone, nor has the Congress, who are the ones responsible for sending our military there...so are you saying our military is carrying out mass murder?
Want to make sure I understand...are you suggesting that being a rapist is hereditary?
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Are you suggesting Hamas has 1017-mile-long tunnels?
Do you hear yourself? You are regurgitating more propaganda from US media sources, which act as mouthpieces of the US, AIPAC, and Israel policies. Do you understand how one-sided US news coverage really is? The only smuggling of any significance going on is between Gaza and Egypt and, for the most part, the contraband is food, clothing, medicine, fuel and cash, which they have been cut off from for the past 18 months due to Israel's blockade. If there is weapon smuggling, the majority of it would be coming from the Muslim Brotherhood who is not exactly able to engage in such activities openly since they are repressed by the Egyptian government and are not even allowed to run for office as a legitimate political party, are subjected to mass arrests, etc.
The Brotherhood is a Sunni organization and does not even operate in Iran, whose relations with Egypt are pretty icy, to say the least. These factors make high-level, successful arms smuggling connected to Iran difficult at best and fairly unlikely. It should come as no surprise that Iran is entirely supportive of Palestine, but the way US depicts the relationship between Iran and other Islamic political parties is highly exaggerated and often inaccurate.
In any case, the weapons that have been able to be smuggled in quite OBVIOUSLY do not measure up to the caliber of weapons Israel has been able to amass with US financial backing and direct arms provisions. Take a long look at the list I put in the other post. Israel is able to conduct its wars FROM OUTER SPACE.
If Hamas had such weaponry, we would not have a 125:1 fatality ratio between the two sides, would we now? I hate to break this to you, but Iranians DO NOT imbed themselves in Gaza. You really need to educate yourself on the difference between an Arab and a Persian, when and how they support each other and where they draw their lines.
BTW, no place in any of my posts have you seen me say I think Hamas is "so great." In fact, I support secular social democratic parties in the Middle East, including Iran. I simply view the area's politics from a different standpoint than most Americans because I have had occasion to live there, to work with refugees, to marry into a Moslem family and to befriend man Iranians, Iraqis Jordanians, Syrians, Turks, Lebanese, Palestinians and even a couple of liberal Israelis over the last 40 years.
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