I am personally involved and communicate with my senators...sm
Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-10-07
In Reply to: That's the problem when you say can't do anything about it - Backwards typist
and represenatives. However, I have talked until I am "blue in the face" to people who believe everything they are told by their church, their husband, their wife or their parents, etc. Unless I am talking to someone who has an open mind and not willing to follow the pied piper and check their facts, I am wasting my breath. Of course, I keep trying. LOL.
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Also for me a Bravo for 'just the big bad'.
I am for negatiations. One has to COMMUNICATE with people, that's the only way to come to solutions. Also with Muslims.This is what Obama weants to do, McCain wants to BOMB them.
Nothing can be achieved by saying: 'I do not want to talk to you.' This breeds hatred.
You want to communicate with the guys before 911?
A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.
Pause a moment, reflect back.
These events are actual events from history..
They really happened!!!
Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male extremist.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim male extremists.
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim male extremists.
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim male extremists.
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim male extremists.
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim male extremists.
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim male extremists.
8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim male extremists.
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim male extremists.
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim male extremists.
11. On 9/11/01 , four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim male extremists.
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim male extremists.
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by-- you guessed it-- Muslim male extremists..
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people... Absolutely No Profiling!
They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
According to The Book of Revelations:
The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.
And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America ... A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40s.
Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???
I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate Obama...
Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.
As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it,
'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'
Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet....do it!
or again. . just delete if you disagree.
Wow, and now the Repubs claim to communicate with the Dead!
You Repubs are really embarrassing yourselves with your childish behavior. It is so, so sad to see SORE LOSERS!!! Please, grow up and GET BEHIND OUR PRESIDENT!
She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.
Where did you get your debating skills? On the south side of Chicago in some street gang? Because if you did, it shows.
In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks. Yet, that's all you people know how to do. You can't stay on the issue. You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years. In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity.
As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you. Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers). If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker. You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere. It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn.
As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found. Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time. Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums. Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.
Have a pleasant evening. 
He was involved though
and anyone who is planning on voting for him should understand just what happend back then. The facts are out there.
Every state is involved in some way
with political corruption, just not everyone is caught.
There is a sociopath involved, but it is not Bush. nm
Things that go against Obama being involved..(sm)
I think they nipped it in the bud this early so they could hold a state senate hearing to see if they can put the senate seat up for a vote instead of allowing him to make that decision.
Also, in the transcripts there was a part where the Gov said that Obama, that &*(@#$!, was not working with him.
See you can still talk smack without God's name involved. nm
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There is no force involved whatsoever. I do it
because I "choose" to do what the Bible commands. I love the Lord and want to do what His Word says. There is nothing forced about. If you don't think it's a sin, that is your perogative. I, however, feel that it is and that is my perogative, too. 
what a very positive and involved post!
By the way, how does one "speak" loudly on an internet board?
The last time I looked we were NOT involved
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Bush involved in leak scandal
Source to Stephanopoulos: President Bush Directly Involved In Leak Scandal
Near the end of a round table discussion on ABC’s This Week, George Stephanopoulos dropped this bomb:
Definitely a political problem but I wonder, George Will, do you think it’s a manageable one for the White House especially if we don’t know whether Fitzgerald is going to write a report or have indictments but if he is able to show as a source close to this told me this week, that President Bush and Vice President Cheney were actually involved in some of these discussions.
This would explain why Bush http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2005/08/17/bush_plame/index1.html>spent more than an hour answering questions from special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. It would also fundamentally change the dynamics of the scandal. President Bush could no longer claim he was merely a bystander who wants to “get to the bottom of it.” As Stephanopoulos notes, if Bush played a direct role it could make this scandal completely unmanageable.
#1 & #3 most liberal senators
It's a fact. The one between them is none other than Ted Kennedy! He's #2! Obama is #1, Biden #3.
How can so many people buy into this spin? Cuba thought they found their true messiah, too. Castro promised them change and something new, and look where that got 'em.
Senators and Congressman
If you have a senator or congressman up for reelection this year, are you going to automatically vote against him/her? I know people say they are mad as he@@ at the present congress, so I was wondering how people were planning on voting. I haven't decided yet, so I really need to start looking at who is up for reelection in my district.
I emailed both my senators........... sm
about him last night. I hope enough people will call, write or email their senators and let them know that this man has no business in the AG office.
What IS Obama thinking???? I wonder how he would like it if he found his daughters being exposed to the very websites this man fought to protect?
Sadly, some of the senators, if not all,
think we DO want this. Doesn't matter how many calls they get. They think we just love mortgaging ourselves, our children, and our grandchildren.
There are a few that are fighting against the bill as it stands but....and I know a certain person will blast me for this but Schumer, Dodd, and Kerry absolutely screamed today that this package is what HAS to pass. Schumer stated right out that it's what the people want. Kerry stated there was no reason to cut anything from it. Dodd stated that the TARP package has money in it to help with the mortgage debaucle so why they want amendments to the tune of $9B in this one was beyond him.
So, if there is money in TARP for the homeowners, why aren't the homeowners being helped? No rocket science in that. The banks and Wall Street are keeping it.
They just don't get it.
Well, I'm glad to see that neither of my Senators.......... sm
were the Republicans who voted for it. Texas has spoken.....FWIW! LOL!
I just contacted my senators
and as politely as I could told them that I was not happy with the the direction our country is going. I also told them both that if they vote yes to cap-and-trade, I will vote against them come next election.
Everything you list here is shared by all the other senators ....
serving. This is legislative experience. It is not executive experience, and it is not foreign policy experience. Obama admitted it, that is why he chose Biden. I choose to believe him.
As far as executive experience...she has run a state, a multibillion dollar budget, made executive decisions every day.
He is running for PRESIDENT. She is running for VP. She has more government running experience than he does. His qualification is running a presidential campaign. Ah. I see. And I thought it was the campaign managers who did that.
She IS more qualified.
It is the way of a democracy. I keep in touch with my senators and one...sm
lone representative. I pay attention to whether they vote in my best interest and are honest in their dealings and let them know if I disagree, and vote or not vote for them in the next election. You are naive if you think that democrats are solely responsible for this meltdown. Looking for the other party to blame is counterproductive and will help no one. Money hungry greed is what has led us to this and both parties are to blame.
Senators, etc, don't have the same security clearance as
the president. Do a little research on the subject. Face it, if the chosen one gets in we are screwed, without the benefit of dinner and a movie first.
Not necessarily....enough Repub senators ....
remain so that the democrats don't have a filibuster-proof majority. So if the repubs grow a backbone and stand up...the dems will be somewhat limited in what they can do. We shall see how it all turns out. But yeah...the potential for a major hosing will still exist.
There are children of congresspeople and Senators serving...
from both sides of the aisle.
Serious question...you do not view a radical Islamist with a nuclear weapon dangerous?
Didn't I hear some senators say that passage of....sm
the "bail out" would not preclude bringing those people criminally responsible to justice? I am for that. Let's see if either candidate steps up to the plate and advocates that now that the bail out has passed.
I e-mailed my senators telling them the same thing! nm
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You write/fax/call your state senators over and over and over
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Hold your president responsible!! Call your senators!!
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This what I'm personally going to do
In every place I go where the pledge is recited ballgames mostly when we got to the words under God it's amplified UNDER GOD!!! That's what I intend on doing even if it becomes illegal. I don't care if they outlaw the word God period I'll shout it from the mountaintops. First of all to glorify my God, and second of all to irritate those who think it's a curse word.
Go ahead sue me...hang me...chop my head off. The best is yet to come for me anyway.
I personally think that
the McCain campaing has set Palin up to be the attacker of Obama's character and let McCain talk about what they will do if they are elected.
As for Palin lying, I do believe that Obama has not been 100% truthful with things brought out about him. He has changed his story several times on different associations and issues and that makes me not trust him.
I do find it interesting that a lot of times what an Obama supporter can say about Palin....a McCain supporter can say about Obama. LOL! Kind of makes you wonder what the heck all of us are thinking really.
One thing that holds true for me in the case of Sarah Palin is that she cut spending in her state. I truly do believe that for the sake our country....we need to cut back on the government pending and this just reinforces my trust in McCain and Palin to do just that. Obama...on the other hand....I believe will not cut back on spending as he has endorsed more pork in his short term in senate than McCain has his entire career.....and that to me says a lot. And that has nothing to do with him being a POW and having the scars to prove it. LOL!
Personally, you hit on one of her best...
attributes. I like the idea of a VP who could lock and load with the Secret Service if need be. Shove those guys out of the way and take care of herself. Hooah! lol.
Well, I personally am a
right-leaning Libertarian who registered Republican last time McCain made an attempt, just so that I could vote for him in that primary.
This time around he has morphed into something so frightening that I'm voting for Obama, & I haven't voted for a Democrat in 30 years.
Well, personally s/m
I could not care less so long as they don't mess around with the constitution. I do think, however, that there is much ado about nothing. As for the alleged tax breaks...when my husband and I married we asked my CPA about tax ramifications. He said we would be better off to marry. When we filed our first joint return, the same CPA said he didn't realize how much our income was and that in fact, marrying was the worst thing we could do tax-wise. So if gays/lesbians want to marry for tax purposes, they had better take a good hard look at where the marriage will put them.
I don't know that there's anything legal/illegal about it but I expect that in the case of serious illness or injury a significant other would not be kept from the bedside.
My husband and I used an attorney to draw up papers (forget what they are called) that directs everything that could possibly be foreseen and the cost was something like $350. That would work just as well for gays/lesbians I would think.
We have a gay couple in our community, also biracial. They moved here from another state. Both wear wedding rings, I have no idea what it symbolizes, haven't asked. One is rather elderly and has relatives here but they accept the significant other and everyone just goes about their business.
Gay/lesbian relations are not new, it goes all the way back to biblical times. I don't lean in that direction myself so I do not know anything about it, whether it is a choice or people are born with that bend. I just have a hard time with God saying that it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man as with a woman and then that He would turn around and cause people to be born with this kind of sexual orientation. That being said, let them do what they will, it is between them and God. Like religion and politics, they don't need to try to shove it down the throats of the majority who are heterosexual.
I personally don't know anyone......... sm
with voter's remorse right now, but I can guarandangtee you there will be a whole bunch of folks in about 6 months to a year or so who will rue the day they cast their ballot for the O.
perhaps you just don't personally know anyone
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Personally
I think it's all of the above and then some.
I have never personally used that phrase myself. sm
But then, I am sure someone will expend a huge amount of energy to prove me wrong.
I personally feel
that Jesse Jackson is a detriment to the black community. Surely there has to be someone better to represent and stand up for the black community. If a white person made the general comments that Jesse Jackson does......the black community would scream racism. His own son spoke negatively about his father and his comment.
I personally don't feel that there will ever be equality between the races because people are constantly wanting to point the finger at the other race. Do I want equality....yes...of course I do. I have many black friends who are great people that I care about. But until we stop pointing the finger at the other race, it won't stop. Prejudice and racism is on both sides. It isn't just the white folks or the black people.....it is on both sides and until people stop and realize that and learn to forgive and forget and be accepting.......it won't change.
As for Bill Cosby, I loved watching the Bill Cosby Show when I was younger, but the more I learn about Bill......the more I think he is a huge bigot.
Once again, did he personally call you
to say he would quit HIS job and be at home with the kids? Oh wait, I KNOW! The oldest pregnant one can watch ALL of them! Now, There is an idea! Furthermore, yes, you ARE bashing US, by saying we have a 1950's mentality, just because we want to ACTUALLY RAISE our OWN kids, instead of a DAY orphanage! What a concept? Raise your own kids! Dr. Laura people, you all should listen to her...
I personally feel that
neither McCain nor Obama will be able to really pull us out of this horrible economic situation. They will be able to help or make it worse, but no one president is totally going to pull us out of this horrible situation that we find ourselves in today. I personally put the blame on everyone....dems and repubs alike. Our president is currently republican but the congress is controlled by the dems and quite frankly I haven't seen a whole he11 of a lot out of either group to start pulling us out. We are too busy flinging mud between parties to really focus on what our country needs and that is a shame as well as scary. I hope and pray that people in Washington will get their heads out of their butts and consider the future of our country instead of how much money they can line their pockets with and that goes for both dems and repubs.
I personally feel that this
failure in our government is a failure on both sides. This isn't strictly dems, although dems control the congress, and this isn't strictly reps even though the pres is a rep. I think they should all stop pointing fingers as what is done is done and find a solution that will benefit the tax payers and not line the crooks' pockets with money anymore than they already are.
As for McCain....no matter what....at least he had the balls to say....HEY...we have a problem here. That is more than other politicians have done who benefited from FMFM money.
Of course, I personally don't have a problem with
any of it. I don't look to the debates to help make up my mind, they are for entertainment value to me. I simply was putting out there what I had read. I too agree, the VP debate is going to be the one everyone wants to see.
I personally believe that they are both good men...sm
We are lucky to have two such good men to vote for. That being said, you need to do your own research at reliable places, keep an open mind, and take nothing at face value. In the end, we all vote with, hopefully, our brains/hearts/instincts. The issues are what really matter. Who honestly represents your values and who is going to help the ordinary person, the middle class, the poor, the rich, whatever is your agenda.
What makes you think that I personally don't?
pub or dem, who benefited from this should be the ones financially responsible to repair it. But that isn't going to happen and I'm sick of hearing about who's responsible for it. What about the homeowners who applied for these mortgages that they knew they couldn't afford? I hold them responsible. What about the banks who gave them the loan, knowing they could never repay it, but didn't care because they were just going to sell it? I hold them responsible. What about the CEOs who made millions on their severenace packages when they walked away from these failing companies? I hold them responsible. I don't care what party they are affiliated with. But the fact is, no one person is going to be held accountable. As a whole, the taxpayers will be made to be responsible.
You talk a good game and some of what you say makes sense. Unfortunately, you have to read through all the pub/dem cr@p to really get to what you're saying. Are you going to try to tell me that not 1 single pub had anything to do with any of this? That it all rests on the individual dems? Come on -- that's a load of bull and you know it.
And I respect yours. Personally,
if I had to be in a foxhole with someone, it would be McCain no question. I have a feeling that Obama would look out for himself.
Personally, I think she meant (Lou
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i personally don't care much for either of them
Madeline Halfbright was Clinton's Sec. of State. Don't even get me started on her.
No matter what, I give nobody a free pass just by the R behind his/her name. Look at Olympia Snow & Susan Collins! Talk about embarrassments!
I personally think that we should drop
everything except for American. We need to unite and come together and we need to drop the extra titles. That doesn't mean we should forget where we come from or our heritage. It just means that when we lose focus on us all being Americans and just Americans....we start to categorize and stereotype and segregate ourselves.
Besides, I really don't want to be call an Indian-German-Scottish-Hungarian-American. I'm an American and I'm proud of that.
I personally think Palin has now
Joe Biden has been in politics for a very long time. Palin and McCain in no way answer any question directly. Palin took a shot at the media through an interview with Brian Williams. When asked to state the examples of the bashing she feels are wrong, she only gave one, and then didn't want to talk about it anymore. I have to say that even though you feel Joe or Obama faced with a real problem are under the gate and squealing, you'd better look at the examples of McCain and Palin interviews first. Pretty much all I hear out of McCain's mouth is "I'm sorry." JMO, of course.
To Gourdpainter: I want to personally s/m
thank you for your many insightful posts on this board during this whole election process. Your posts along with sam's posts have very accurately paralleled the glaring differences between these two candidates, yours being ones of depth of knowledge, integrity, tolerance and a true desire for change for the better, whereas, the other one's posts have been largely based on garbage gleaned from questionable websites, blogs and other biased sources that have accomplished nothing other than to incite hatred and intolerance in support of a candidate who has based his whole campaign on filthy lies and evil smear tactics in pathetic attempts to discredit his opponent who has risen above this display of low-down politics.
So, my hat's off to you, Gourdpainter, for setting an exemplary example for all of us to aspire to!! 
Personally, I tried 6 times and still
can't get away from them. Even this tax probably won't help. You name it, I've tried it except Chantix (sp) but I need a doctor to prescribe it and I don't have a doctor yet.
My mom smoked until she was 79. Died 4 months later. DH doesn't care if I don't quit after that because his mother died 6 months after she quit. Doesn't make sense, but it did happen.
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