I do believe that both sides use information from these folks (sm)

• some info on the birth certificate issue - sweets
  • From where I sit s/m - gourdpainter
  • Senate document 06-570 supposedly - Backwards typist
  • It has been proven that his birth certificate is authentic. nm - oldtimer
    • It has NOT been proven his certificate is authentic - see note - New Englander
      • you missed the point of the original post - sweets
        • And I think everyone that thinks the issue of his BC is not important is missing the point.. - sm
      • Wow. Do you really want... - Kendra
      • I do believe that both sides use information from these folks (sm) - Just the big bad
      • what if that is all he has? - Amanda

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I had the privilege and honor of seeing Mother Teresa some years ago in D.C. The audience was made up of a few ordinary people and mostly political and/or media types. The woman did not mince words. She did not hesitate to tell everyone in the audience how she felt that intolerance, indifference, selfishness, materialism and consumerism, the treatment of and attitudes towards the poor, the sick, the imprisoned run rampant were things that incited people to take up arms against each other, to hate one another, etc. and that Americans might want to look a good look at themselves and give some thoughtful prayer to what part they may play in the situations they so despised. Some of the people were so moved by her that they talked to her about going to India. They wanted to work in her clinics, her hospitals, on the streets. She laughed out loud and I will never forget what she said. She said, and I quote, ** You do not have to go to another country to do God's work. Take a look around you. Man's inhumanity to man is evident everywhere. Go into your own cities and find the poor, the needy, the imprisoned, the sick, the haters with hardened hearts, whatever. They will always be with us and they are everywhere. I believe sincerely that peace is God's work, perhaps in the highest form. You think we live in peace here in this country; as Mother Teresa said, look around you. The war is but 1 faction of a very very sick society, a sick world. I was born into peace and nonviolence. I have practiced it all my life. Protests are really quite a small part of my nonviolent lifestyle. There is plenty enough hatred, violence, intolerance and indifference to keep the peacekeepers busy until the end of time, right where they live, wherever that may be.  We also unfortunately have, in this country, warmongering and war profiteering and people in power who could care less about exploiting our troops and whomever they may be fighting. War is a big money maker for some folks. I do protest here but these days it is mostly letters to the editor, letters to senators, clergy, manning phones, that sort of thing. Another thing I believe is that the Creator is the changer of hearts and minds, not men, and that prayer changes things. You asked what I did besides whine on the other board, where were my legs...you asked for it, here it is.

1. I train service dogs for the disabled. I do this for all sorts of people, some of whom happen to be veterans whose welcome home from their government is, in my opinion, nothing short of betrayal. The wonderful projects, facilities that have sprung up to help these vets are all and I mean ALL privately funded, quite a few of the dogs I train have been purchased or **sponsored** meaning covering all costs and it is quite expensive,  from the bleeding heart liberal pinko commies as you refer to us. They pay the fee, anywhere from $12,000 to $25,000 so that people who cannot afford it or whose government does not think them or their service  important enough to provide them everything they could possibly ever need can get something they desperately need. My portion of this 2-year training program is the last leg, the month where trainer, new owner and dog are put together to learn the mechanics of what they are doing together and to learn each other. At this point the dog, its care, individualized training, all vet bills have been paid for. Normally I charge for this month of training that I do one-on-one.  I have NEVER charged 1 red cent to any veteran for my services and I never will. This is one of the ways I support the troops but not the mission. You see, it can be done.

2.  I have belonged to a prayer and meditation for peace group since I was a child. If I go somewhere where I can't find one, I start one or I hook up with the Mennonites or Friends, the original civil disobeyers. We PRAY for peace, for everyone, everywhere.

3.  I work with St. Vincent de Paul (Catholic organization for the needy),

4.  I do meals on wheels (substitute only now, too busy with everything else),

5.  I go with a group of Indians to elementary schools throughout the Tampa Bay area in full regalia with drums, flutes and stories to share with them to try to give them a good honest look at indigenous people. This seems to be going over very well. We have more dates than we can actually handle. I am very proud to do this work.

Those are my legs and I have had them for a long time.  As I recall, this is our board, the L board, so I can post whatever I like and you don't have to read my posts because you always find fault with whatever I said but I will continue to **preach to the choir** as long as I feel like it because it is the liberal board and the liberals don't mind hearing about nonviolence. As Ghandi said, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. And, for further perusal, here's a bit of history on Ghandi.

After one year of a none too successful law practice (in England), Gandhi decided to accept an offer from an Indian businessman in South Africa, Dada Abdulla, to join him as a legal adviser. Unbeknown to him, this was to become an exceedingly lengthy stay, and altogether Gandhi was to stay in South Africa for over twenty years. The Indians who had been living in South Africa were without political rights, and were generally known by the derogatory name of 'coolies'. Gandhi himself came to an awareness of the frightening force and fury of European racism, and how far Indians were from being considered full human beings, when he was thrown out of a first-class railway compartment car, though he held a first-class ticket, at Pietermaritzburg. From this political awakening Gandhi was to emerge as the leader of the Indian community, and it is in South Africa that he first coined the term satyagraha to signify his theory and practice of non-violent resistance. Gandhi was to describe himself preeminently as a votary or seeker of satya (truth), which could not be attained other than through ahimsa (non-violence, love) and brahmacharya (celibacy, striving towards God). Gandhi conceived of his own life as a series of experiments to forge the use of satyagraha in such a manner as to make the oppressor and the oppressed alike recognize their common bonding and humanity: as he recognized, freedom is only freedom when it is indivisible.

Aho.

Don't know of anyone who thinks this country is the great Satan.  Not at all.  The folks I talk to feel this country has its foibles, failings and quirks just like most other nations.  We are not perfect and never will be.  But we shouldn't give up simply because we're not perfect.  Turning a blind eye to this country's problems will solve nothing, though, only perpetuate its problems and make us weaker in the end.

You may see some of us as spouting hatred for this country when in reality it is love, albeit sometimes a tough love.  If you care about your child you want them to improve and become the best they can.  Same with the U.S.

Otherwise, all these Satan =U.S. folks....can you provide compelling statistical evidence for this statement?

Here are your civil rights being stripped to the core.  Excuse me, but I believe that is what our police force is for.  Only this is disguised as taking care of the citizens at home.  We do not need a miliary brigade "specifically" detailed to take care of "our" citizens.  You need to read very carefully what is being said here, folks, and it AIN'T for your own good, even though there will be those who think this is wonderful news!!!

Please pay close attention to the "crowd and traffic control equipment" they will be using on you, which they are sooooo excited about!   These will be your relatives being deployed within our borders not to protect us against intruders but to do just what you see in other countries, when you see their military all over their streets,  monitoring their citizens' every move.... and, of course, there is the brainwashing where some of these military indivdiuals believe they are doing an "honorable" thing and "noble mission".....Mission?  You want a mission?..... find another job besides the one where you are "monitoring" and stripping your citizens of their civil rights. 

Consequence Management Response Force.....I believe is what they call it now.....  consequences of what?  Protests, which is our right, speaking up and out against our government, which is our civil rights......just watch what will be happening if you don't start screaming loudly and long. 

I always wonder what is going on behind the scenes with our government when something "big" starts going on that distracts our attention away from something else.  Well, like they didn't know the Wall Street crowd and all the financial institutions weren't corrupt and crooked as sin.....right!!!  Now seems like a good time to distract you and SUDDENLY it all comes out.   Better keep your eye on your government folks.    There's the real problem!!!!!

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

Here's your global economy...........want to move to India?

http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/05/news/companies/ibm_jobs/index.htm

Yes, I voted against McCain/Palin which effectively means I voted for Obama.  Okay, I'm not sorry about that, still would not like to have seen McCain/Palin in the White House.  Don't think they'd be looking out for the interest of America either.

Am I happy with Obama?  No.  First he's run us into debt so that the only light at the end of the tunnel, as I see it, is a freight train, and a BIG one at that, coming.  The stimulus may  have stimulated the economy in the moment, Arkansas is planning a hiring spree with that extra "free" cash which obviously will create jobs but they say that when that free money is gone, the jobs will also be gone.  So we will be left no better off than we were before, just deeper in debt.  Oh yeah, as retirees, my husband and I got that $250 stimulus check.  News flash....we didn't run out and spend it nor did we use it to pay debts as we have none.  It's sitting right in the bank where it will remain as we are hoarding money for worse times to come.  Those I have talked to who are working and get the supposed reduction in taxes say it isn't enough that they've even noticed any extra money.

This morning I read that he is all primed and cocked to sign the long awaited smoking reform.  Do people not realize that this is just one more of our personal freedoms that is being taken away?  So some of you are glad but what about when the next freedom that affects YOU is taken away?  Maybe it's guns or whatever is dear to your heart.  The push is on to  legalize marijuana.  Sorry but my experience with marijuana is that it is not harmless.  But maybe it'll make all of us who smoke feel better about the direction our country is headed, something tobacco really doesn't provide.

What we need is NOT a Democrat and NOT a Republican.  What we need is someone in the White House (and other branches of the government) with some common sense and who are not puppets for special interests.  And I don't care how much Obama says "no more business as usual in Washington," from where I sit it most certainly is business as usual.  God save us all!!

To make matters even worse, every bit of my microscopic federal "tax break" has been more than eaten up by higher state sales taxes now, and of course that will get even worse when we start to see higher prices because higher prices mean higher sales taxes.

What the government giveth (to get silly people to vote for them), the government taketh away - and a little bit extra just for good measure.

Here in NW Arkansas I've had the inside scoop for some time on a situation that ought to scare the living dickens out of everyone who works for a living.

I have known for some time that Don Tyson was going to come out of retirement and take over the reins of Tyson Food again.  The news story broke yesterday.  By the way, Don Tyson is a rabid Republican.  None of the following is heresay, I know the guy.

Most of you probably find Tyson products in your local grocery.  If you eat at McDonalds you eat Tyson chicken tenders.

In the farming area where I live probably 75% of the people have either worked in some facet of the chicken industry or they have retired with a fortune they made in the chicken industry.  Most people contracted with Tyson to raise their chickens.  Low income workers worked in the hatcheries and chicken processing plants.  Not to mention the people who had good jobs in the corporate offices.  Within the last several years Tyson replaced their low income workers with illegal aliens.  They started building their own chicken farms and imported Mongs from (Minnesota or somewhere) to run them at much less cost than their contract growers but they are so big they didn't replace all of their growers.

What some of you call the "low lifes" worked  in this chicken business, a dirty, nasty job.  Some of them did  this because there is nothing else they can do.  They are uneducated, some are not too bright but they WORK.  I know one who can't even read and write.   Most of them now drive 25-30 miles to Fayetteville to work in fast food, as janitors or whatever low-paying job they can find and you see their old jalopies by the side of the road where they've either broken down or run out of gas.  These "low life people" don't want handouts, they want to work.  I feel sorry for them.

Now the news flash?  Tyson has  bought chicken processing plants in Argentina, Brazil  and China because "the cost of feed is making it cost prohibitive to do business here."  This is going to not only take jobs out of this country, it is going to leave many farmers who are still growing  chickens (and pork) not only unemployed but with thousands of dollars in debt because of the investments they have made in chicken farming.  20 years ago it cost $100,000 for a farmer to build a commercial chicken house.  I shudder to think what it costs today.  The plan is to raise chickens abroad and process them and bring them home to America.

So  all of you who work for a living whether you work in the chicken industry or another, had better be scared.  John McCain from his own mouth proclaimed himself to be the biggest free trader ever.  Free trade hasn't worked too well for Americans has it?

The inside scoop is buy Tyson stock now.  Not me.  I will NOT profit by costing American people their jobs.

I've changed my plean from "God Bless America" to "God Have Mercy on America."

How does this relate to the election?  For one thing I don't think we need another "biggest free trader ever" in the White House.