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I don't think he sent the picture to the magazine to be placed on the cover -

Posted By: Amanda on 2009-04-22
In Reply to: This is inappropriate for a magazine cover - me

My goodness, ya'll would blame him no matter what. He does not decide what picture goes on the cover of a magazine - the Editor of the magazine decides.

And, I do not think that being President of the United States means you cannot go to the beach anymore or have a vacation with your family without covering yourself and if someone wants to take a picture of him in that way, then what can he do?

You want freedom of the press, freedom of speech, no censorship, etc., but then you are wanting to censor this magazine!


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This is inappropriate for a magazine cover
This should go in the National Enquire, Star or something. Sure he's in good physical shape, but whether you think he is nice looking or not is all a matter of opinion. My MIL thought Bill Clinton was "the bees knees" saying "I wouldn't kick him out of my bed, or he can park his shoes under my bed. I felt like throwing up every time I saw him. But, pics of shirtless leaders should should stay in the tabloids. he is supposed to be a leader. This goes to show more and more that he is not. As someone said he's acting like a "Hollywood wannabe". This is not the actions of someone who is supposed to be a stateman, the leader of a country. If you're going to put the pic of a country's leader on the front cover of a magazine they should be properly attired. Could be one of the reasons why most don't refer to him as President Obama, but rather as Mr. Obama.
They cover the news they WANT to cover! Why are
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It was Time magazine. Hardly a conservative bastion.

More musing from the fringe's outhouse magazine rack.
This incredible spew of smoke and mirrors does not effectively argue anything except that it's time for your medications. Let's make this a bit simpler. Go here. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bill+clinton+wiki&aq=f&oq= Conduct Find search and press next a time or two until you get to the surpluse statement that clearly indicates at the end of the Clinton years, the surplus was $559 billion dollars.
Fox did not cover it because the Fox
did not have a news department then.

Yes, I read your message. Did read you mine?
They only cover 2 candidates because
we don't demand that they do otherwise.  Power to the people!!!!
Nice cover - but you know what the COS's job is, right?
Obama would not pick as his Chief of Staff a man who wasn't eye-to-eye on the majority of issues. It's basically the president's wing man. No one's going to buy the notion that Obama picked Emanuel as a counterbalance to his own ideas. He picked him because they share common beliefs, which some of us find a little frightening (like mandatory military-style training and/or service).
Ah, but Obama's cover....

...is that things are SO MUCH WORSE than he was lead to believe during the campaign. Much was concealed from him. He inherited such a big mess and he had absolutely no idea how much work there would be.   And when his policies fail, as they are destined to do, he will have made a ruin of our entire way of life and can still blame the whole thing on Bush.  It's a no-lose situation for Obama.


The Obama campaign became almost a cult experience.  People wailing and crying and fainting.  The promise of free stuff:  *If I help him, he'll help me.  I won't have to worry about filling my gas tank and paying my mortgage.*  This is exactly what got Obama elected.  Smooth, slick, TelePrompTer dependent without appearing to be, well packaged and carefully managed, lots of emotional appeal.  Those who voted for him bought sizzle.  The sizzle is starting to fizzle, and there will never be a steak. 


Cover up the Prez!! Have you guys seen this?

link


The MSM did cover it, but all positive spin. sm
They said the troops were unarmed. No mention of FEMA thwarting relief efforts either.

Here is an article archived on Alex's page about some of it. Of course, since it did not come from Fox News it can't be believable.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/mexican_dutch_troops_sent_biloxi.htm

I suppose they should cover the mirrors
and rend their clothes in grief instead? They are busting their butts to get things done. I think a little laughter, joy and goodwill is necessary as well as healthy. But, I suspect you would neither understand nor APPROVE of anything you deem "frivolous." The Dow has been up for 4 days running, at least 3 major banks are seeing profits and are stating they no longer require any bailout money.........Bringing in Congress and various insiders for a weekly get-together is a good way to inspire and promote goodwill.....but I guess the WH is something to look at - not live in.
Better cover your eyes, if you're so squeamish.

Your pathetic attempt to try to cover up the fact...(sm)
that there is no basis for the comment above (that being that Obama is taking rights away) by trying to distract the conversation by attacking me personally does nothing but show the absolute absurdity of the republican party's talking points.
I think the vanity fair cover was not a smart thing for her to do...sm
even though she wore a scar and big glasses.


Correction: The cost to cover Montana kids.
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McCain should draft Tammy to cover all his bases.
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Double standard doesn't cover Obama
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You're right. They cover their ears, close their eyes,
what they're taught in Bible School, I suppose.

They must figure that if they bore their opponents with their nonstop jabbering, that when that person finally gets fed up and walks away, they have somehow 'won'. WHAT they think they've 'won' is beyond me.

The booby-prize, perhaps?
Liberal news media won't cover it.... CNN did send a
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Shirtless Obama Makes Washingtonian Cover
The May cover of Washingtonian magazine features those paparazzi photos of a shirtless Barack Obama strolling the beach in Hawaii last year. The photo illustrates the magazine's "Reasons We Love Washington," the #2 reason for which is "Our new neighbor is hot."
Honey, your Bush derangement syndrome is showing...cover it up!
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sorry, picture did not take...
here is the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/politics/politico/main501563.shtml

It shows that the picture missing is the politico logo.

:-)
picture not there
but I have seen it elsewhere. speaks volumes, doesn't it? Everyone else on that podium had their hands on their hearts, his were at his side.
Get this picture
You are absolutely correct, I don't want anything shoved down my throat and nothing will be.  My question is when you see anything on the politics board that even remotely mentions religion, why not just click off of it and don't go about reading it much less posting a reply?  When our religious beliefs affect our political views, why on earth would we not be allowed to express those opinions? You certainly don't have to agree.   I certainly have no problem with atheists, agnostics or whatever posting their lack of religious views that affect their political views.  It seems to me that non-believers protest way too much about something they don't believe in.
OMG - thanks a lot, now that's all I have a picture of LOL
HA HA HA HA HA

Piper Laurie sure was good in that roll though.
The picture is even bigger than you think.

More smoke and mirrors from Bush.


Doctored picture? nm
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This is cute & I can picture him saying something like that...sm
Just reading thru some posts on here now. I guess I missed quite a bit. I have started on a new account and it is taking me 12 hours instead of 8 to get my lines.
what IS wrong with the picture?
I'm not watching TV and I don't know exactly what you are referring too, but is SP supposed to land in the midst of the hurricane, instead of Fairbanks, in order to be a good person?? 
you could ask for a picture ballot

so you don't get confused and vote for a horse or something.


 


You really need to look at the bigger picture
Of course you care about your interest rate on your home, but neither candidate is going to 'solve' this horrific crisis, because there is no ONE reason for it! It is very complicated but as Americans, its our responsibility to TRY to understand it better so that we can demand the right course of actioN from ALL parties involved.

ONE FACT: When wages are stagnant an economy cannot grow - and that DEFINITELY is playing into what is happening in the financial crisis. Ask yourself which candidate is for INCREASING wages and fighting for equal pay for women and men...

Don't depend on SAM or anyone else to help you decide, use the power of the internet to educate yourself.

IF you like war and bleeding the treasury to ensure we have more of it, and more enemies to boot, then McCain is your man.

Im not enamoured of Obama either, so I'm not selling him to you either. That said, he ALWAYS opposed Bush's fake war - which has cost us HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. Gee, where could we have put that $ to better use? Remember IRAQ did not attack us in 2001; the majority of attackers came from SAUDI ARABIA.

Why? Because they demanded we remove our military bases from their lands and we did not comply. After they attacked us, we attacked Iraq and guess what? WE MOVED THE MILITARY BASES TO IRAQ to appease Saudi Arabia.

Think this has nothing to do with you getting a good rate on your new home?

THINK AGAIN. As long as Americans choose their leaders based on cute lines in debates, we are destined to be robbed again and again and again.

You must look at WHAT THEY WILL DELIVER based on their past record. MCCain will give you more of the last 8 years.

But again, that's my opinion. Please care enough to do your own research, which you will believe more than anything a stranger tells you anyway.



need to view the big picture
Gut reaction is to say let the fail. I was not in favor of the bailout as proposed; however, common sense tells me that there has to be some plan. It isn't a question of stocks falling; it is a question of the economic structure of the US failing completely. I do want to save their "greedy banker butts" (to use your words) but you need to think of the bigger picture. You talk about a drop in stock, retirement, possible lower value of your home and no loan for college. How about drop in stock and savings and checking and everything to zero. How about losing your home, not having a job, not being able to afford food or clothing? Do you understand the consequence of no fix to this problem goes way beyond "bailing out their greedy banker butts." It is just not wall street here, it is the entire American economy.
boy, this really paints the picture of
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Did you see the picture of O at his ceremony?
Creeped me out.  I recall no president having a big picture of himself.  Reminded me of Hitler and Sadam Hussein times.
Lets look at the big picture

Seems like each time a president leaves office everyone "hems and haws" at the list of people they pardon (especially those who dislike whatever president is leaving office).  Every exiting president has had their list of people who should never have received pardons.  Some yes, like first time offenders, people arrested for mairjuana, or caught turning back odometers, etc). 


Maybe you should have also posted the list of people Clinton pardoned.  All you said was "he pardoned some nice ones too".  You make it sound  like GW is pardoning hardened criminal while BC only pardoned some people who did petty crimes.  Even though you didn't say that, by saying "he pardoned some nice ones too" it takes away from the seriousness of the people he did pardon.  But since you didn't post Clinton's pardons I will.  Now before anyone throws a fit because I know a lot of you think Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm just posting to show that he pardoned as many creeps as Bush is.  (BTW - I didn't, have never, and do not support Bush - can't stand the guy, but at let's try to keep it honest here).  Oh and my favorites are the money launderers, income tax evaders, bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the government, issuing worthless checks, bank fraud, etc - all those things that helped to start bringing our economy down).  Those and Roger Clinton, Marc Rich, and Susan McDougal,  I did notice how he pardoned a lot of people who lied, but then again that was Clinton's whole 8 years in office - one lie after another, so doesn't surprise me he pardoned people who lied under oath. 


You said something in regards to food stamps...look at #22 on Clintons list - Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps.  I found an interesting article called "10 Heated Presidential Pardons" that goes back to George Washington.  I'll post the link.  All I'm saying here is that each president throughout our history has pardoned some pretty bad people that should not be pardoned.  GW is no different and no more worse than any of the previous.  Here's the article - an interesting read.


http://www.kitv.com/presidential-race/17578058/detail.html


Here's the list of Clinton's pardons


[edit] Pardons



  1. Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[4]
  2. Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
  3. Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
  4. Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
  5. William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
  6. Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
  7. Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
  8. Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
  9. Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
  10. Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
  11. Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
  12. David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
  13. William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
  14. Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
  15. Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
  16. George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
  17. Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
  18. Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
  19. David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
  20. Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
  21. John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
  22. Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
  23. Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
  24. Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
  25. Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
  26. Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
  27. Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
  28. Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
  29. Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
  30. Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
  31. Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
  32. David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
  33. Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
  34. John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
  35. Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
  36. Richard Anthony DE Labio (Mail fraud)
  37. John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
  38. Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
  39. Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
  40. Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
  41. Larry Lee Duncan
  42. Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
  43. Robert Clinton Fain
  44. Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
  45. Alvarez Ferrouillet
  46. Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
  47. William Dennis Fugazy
  48. Lloyd Reid George
  49. Louis Goldstein
  50. Rubye Lee Gordon
  51. Pincus Green
  52. Robert Ivey Hamner
  53. Samuel Price Handley
  54. Woodie Randolph Handley
  55. Jay Houston Harmon
  56. Rick Hendrick
  57. John Hummingson
  58. David S. Herdlinger
  59. Debi Rae Huckleberry
  60. Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
  61. Donald Ray James
  62. Stanley Pruet Jobe
  63. Ruben H. Johnson
  64. Linda Jones
  65. James Howard Lake
  66. June Louise Lewis
  67. Salim Bonnor Lewis
  68. John Leighton Lodwick
  69. Hildebrando Lopez
  70. Jose Julio Luaces
  71. James Timothy Maness
  72. James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
  73. John Robert Martin
  74. Frank Ayala Martinez
  75. Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
  76. John Francis McCormick
  77. Susan H. McDougal
  78. Howard Mechanic
  79. Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
  80. Samuel Loring Morison
  81. Charles Wilfred Morgan III
  82. Richard Anthony Nazzaro
  83. Charlene Ann Nosenko
  84. Vernon Raymond Obermeier
  85. Miguelina Ogalde
  86. David C. Owen
  87. Robert W. Palmer
  88. Kelli Anne Perhosky
  89. Richard H. Pezzopane
  90. Orville Rex Phillips
  91. Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
  92. James G. Powell
  93. Norman Lyle Prouse
  94. Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[5]
  95. Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
  96. Charles D. Ravenel
  97. William Clyde Ray
  98. Alfredo Luna Regalado
  99. Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
  100. Marc Rich
  101. Howard Winfield Riddle
  102. Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
  103. Samuel Lee Robbins
  104. Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
  105. Michael James Rogers
  106. Anna Louise Ross
  107. Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
  108. Gerald Glen Rust
  109. Jerri Ann Rust
  110. Bettye June Rutherford
  111. Gregory Lee Sands
  112. Adolph Schwimmer
  113. Albert A. Seretti Jr.
  114. Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
  115. Dennis Joseph Smith
  116. Gerald Owen Smith
  117. Stephen A. Smith
  118. Jimmie Lee Speake
  119. Charles Bernard Stewart
  120. Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
  121. Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
  122. Richard Lee Tannehill
  123. Nicholas C. Tenaglia
  124. Gary Allen Thomas
  125. Larry Weldon Todd
  126. Olga C. Trevino
  127. Ignatious Vamvouklis
  128. Patricia A. Van De Weerd
  129. Christopher V. Wade
  130. Bill Wayne Warmath
  131. Jack Kenneth Watson
  132. Donna Lynn Webb
  133. Donald William Wells
  134. Robert H. Wendt
  135. Jack L. Williams
  136. Kavin Arthur Williams
  137. Robert Michael Williams
  138. Jimmie Lee Wilson
  139. Thelma Louise Wingate
  140. Mitchell Couey Wood
  141. Warren Stannard Wood
  142. Dewey Worthey
  143. Rick Allen Yale
  144. Joseph A. Yasak
  145. William Stanley Yingling
  146. Phillip David Young
  147. Keith Sanders
  148. Darren Muci
  149. John Scott (not a full pardon)

[edit] Commutations



  1. Ronald Henderson Blackley
  2. Bert Wayne Bolan
  3. Gloria Libia Camargo
  4. Charles F. Campbell
  5. David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
  6. Lau Ching Chin
  7. Donald R. Clark
  8. Loreta De-Ann Coffman
  9. Derrick Curry
  10. Velinda Desalus
  11. Jacob Elbaum
  12. Linda Sue Evans
  13. Loretta Sharon Fish
  14. Antoinette M. Frink
  15. David Goldstein
  16. Gerard A. Greenfield
  17. Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges[3]
  18. Jodie E. Israel
  19. Kimberly Johnson
  20. Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
  21. Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
  22. Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
  23. Kellie Ann Mann
  24. Peter Ninemire
  25. Hugh Ricardo Padmore
  26. Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
  27. Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
  28. Pedro Miguel Riveiro
  29. Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
  30. Susan Rosenberg
  31. Kalmen Stern
  32. Cory Stringfellow
  33. Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
  34. Thomas Wilson Waddell III
  35. Harvey Weinig
  36. Kim Allen Willis
  37. Kemba Smith
  38. Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant

I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...

I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...

I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
What is wrong with this picture?????
*It's a very complicated bill. People in congress obviously don't even understand it.*???? People in congress WROTE this bill, how can they not understand it? How in the world can they vote for it? How can you ask someone to accept it when you are saying the very people who wrote it do not know what is in it, let alone understand it???
WE do get the big picture, which is why we care about
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Looking at a smaller picture...
While the government money is going to bail out AIG and for pork programs, here in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia is closing libraries and pools, cutting firefighters and police. And they are still looking a huge deficit and intend to raise property taxes 18% this year. Low and lower middle class people who are already struggling, who are looking at the grim possibility of losing their jobs, are now being hit with that. And whether they own or rent makes no difference; if the taxes go up, their rent will go up.

But, oh boy, it's much more important to keep AIG going and to invest in "green programs" for clean energy. What good is any of that going to do for the soon-to-be-homeless people of Philadelphia?

link to picture I posted

Sorry it didnt come through, guys..it was information about Laura's manslaughter and had a few good pictures..I wanted to share but they didnt come through..anyway, here is the link..check it out..


http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434


The picture is obviously symbolic & it's apparent to me why they did it. sm
This was an event so emotional that it seems to have welded shut the minds of many Americans. People have shut off their natural curiosity to know what really happened on that fateful day. Have you seen The Matrix? It's a red pill - blue pill choice. Take the blue pill and wake up in the morning and everything is the same as its always been- comfortable. Take the red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Many Americans have chosen the blue pill- they don't want to know the truth, just feed them info that confirms what they've already been told and that's good enough.

So, I think the picture is a little more than someone with a little too much time on their hands.
I saw the picture, Kaydie...the B is backwards!
The police have serious doubts about her story, as well. You are very gullible!
What I will never understand is why the Clintons are even still in the picture
Fox news refreshed my memory this weekend about Bill Clinton. I cannot understand why this man is still welcomed with open arms. He disgraced his office and his family. He should have just faded into the sunset. Kind of tells you something about the morals in this country.
He has got to paint as dark a picture as
pretty good job of it, so when just a glimmer of light shines through, he can tell you, Yes, I Did!

But, I sure hate to bust your bubble, we are noncombustible, we are not going extinct, we ain't going anywhere! We just here praying for our country.
Wow, why don't you post your picture so we can judge you, too?
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The picture that you make up whatever scenario you want?
And try to pass it off as truth.

Seems to me that you and most of the Republicans on here are the whiners. Get over it. We have another 7-1/2 years with this president. There are a HUGE MAJORITY of us who LIKE him. So sorry your party is in tatters and doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hades of ever getting elected in my lifetime.
I'm assuming that was supposed to be a picture sm

of an angry mob, but I was unable to view it, but I get it!!  That's hilarious.  But I will say the comment about "first they laughed and then they died" will haunt my nightmares -- not so funny.


JTBB, I have to admire your tenacity dealing with these people.  Tell me, what is it like being a pariah?  I know this won't jive with your atheist beliefs, but you know that Jesus was the most famous pariah, so your're in good company!!   LOL


This is excellent and paints a very accurate picture!

This is so true.  All these people are so ready and eager to kill other people's children.


I didn't notice the name of a very decorated, true war hero on that list, though:  Colin Powell, the only honest, honorable member of Bush's "team."  He's a Republican, very intelligent, reasonable, has seen the ravages of war firsthand, and didn't seem to fit in with all the other boys on Bush's team who were obviously deprived of "GI Joe" playtime hours when they were 5 years old and are trying to make up for lost time.


 


The picture was taken in California at an ANSWER convention. SM

You may remember the incident when the war first started and a soldier threw a grenade into a tent killing several other soldiers, including, I believe an officer.  This lovely show of support for the soldiers was on display at that convention. 


HA HA HA - had to laught at the picture that brought to mind
ya know people there sure is a lot more to a relationship than just sex. Companionship, trust, admiration, being happy every single day of your life, going out and doing things together that you both enjoy doing, the list goes on and on and on. My belief is that the creator put a man and woman togther to have a child (but luckily now a days childless couples whether it be man/woman, woman/woman or man/man can have a child). I'll take someone I can relate to, laugh with, cry with, work with, etc no matter what gender they are. So if you want to have kids by all means the number #1 way to go is sex, but if you want to spend the rest of your life together no matter what gender you are I believe in marriage.