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I had a very open mind, and Obama is not my Lord - nm

Posted By: Amanda on 2008-10-02
In Reply to: Well we all know you love your lord Obama, - see message - me

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It's quite possible! My mind is open. But sm
Obama didn't chicken out. McCain did--again!

I just watched the news on NBC. It was said (on Brian Williams' show) that this morning McCain got spooked by Obama's rising approval rating as opposed to his with respect to the financial situation, and he was advised to suspend--and pretend ("pretend" being my term).

Do you have an open mind? ..Where is it?
Conservatives rarely have an open mind.
Good of you to keep an open mind.

Nothing wrong with having an open mind......sm
just don't let it be so open that your brain falls out.

I have no doubt that Obama is extremely smart and diplomatic. However, any improved relations we "enjoy" with other countries now comes not from any amazing strides he has made in diplomacy but rather in that he has sold us out. He is slowly chipping away at our world position by downgrading, for lack of a better word, our presence in the world as a force to be reckoned with. In other words, he is kissing the backside of countries who seek to destroy America and are having a good laugh at our expense. Don't get too comfy yet.
Before you lecture others on an open mind...
you should look inward at your own. "Conservatives rarely have an open mind" indicates yours is closed like a steel trap. An open mind also sees faults where they exist, and according to you, Obama has none, even when he apes faults of the previous administration and has already gone back on so many campaign promises in only 5 months I lost count. Oh but...you have an open mind. Umm hmmm.
I read the one only true Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was infallible Lord....sm
and I am not, and thank you for calling attention to that; I was paraphrasing Paul in his letter to the Hebrews, but my point is still from my heart, the deceptions that went on during the former administration are still causing ruin and death as we speak, and if you chose laugh at me, that is fine, The flamers on this board love to feign superiority, which I belive is against the Bible as Pride, one of the 7 deadly sins, no? I was asking if posters who want to make inflammatory, ridulous remarks could just TRY to confine their comments and posts to pure facts, and then political discussions can bear fruit and have some intelligence and merit. I am working hard as I am writing this, so forgive me if distracted. It is all just noise, rhetoric, and one-upmanship otherwise, while the country crumbles further. Thanks for correcting me, I will double check Mr. Dunniger's quotes.
What a surprise. You need to shut your TV off & open your mind.nm
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Next time, try listening with an open mind.
God forbid you get the other side of the story.
It still is for those of us with an open mind to think and read and learn
There have been some very good information posted here. These are events that are going on right now that are important, and this is where we can catch up on a lot of the news that the mmm is just not telling us.

For those with an agenda to try to keep suppressing what is happening? Well I see that here too. I stopped coming here for about a week because the board was overtaken by the libs who kept bashing anyone who had a different opinion than theirs and didn't drool over and worship O'Messiah like they do. Once in awhile there would be a good issue (not always the b/c issue), but seeing as it is still a hot topic and NOT being just ignored it is important for people to know what is happening. If you don't think the background of O'Messiah, his shady character, etc, and how our next president is getting elected is important. Then I'd just say keep your eyes closed and move on.

The only truth in America is that there is no truth???????? The truth is there. Some people would like to know. Others just don't care. Now that's pretty sad.
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time.
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time. Rush Limbaugh is the Democrats worst hope/fear to losing the next election. Not the only reason though because the Democrats are doing a great job of that on their own.
Listen with an open mind, ask questions, learn. nm
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I am referring to the open mind I had when I watched the video -
I for one thought this part of the discussion was about the video that showed the Obama song. I was responding to the fact that they called the children glassy eyed and brainwashed.

But I also responded to the part of Obama being called my Lord - because there is only one Lord in my life and it is not Obama.
Wow, that really pushed your buttons....trot out that open mind of yours...
and relax. And no, I decidedly do NOT feel in a weaker position. You are the defensive one. If someone does not agree with you they have a closed mind...THAT is a sign of weakness in your position.

It was not meant as an insult. You were lecturing people that they should educate themselves...THAT is an insult, much more than the so-called spelling police.

I know the rules, I slipped, so sorry, and for that I apologize...and by the way....Got it! is way past rude...if you are real interested in civility.

Thank you so much, and have a nice day.
Human rights is an issue for you and your children... wake up and open your mind
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Well we all know you love your lord Obama, - see message
So you wouldn't see this with an open mind. Luckily enough people are seeing this as being too cultish. Compare it with North Korean videos of the kids singing to their dictator, same with Saddam Hussein's regime and the Hitler Youth Groups. As for the Lyrics "we're going to change the world". That is not the job of the "President of the United States". That means ONLY the united states. Not the whole blasted world. How would you feel if Akmindinajab (sp?) was saying he was going to change the world (of course to the way he thinks). Would you be okay with that?
Obama's Open Letter to His Daughters

Next Tuesday, Barack Obama will be sworn in as our 44th President. On this historic occasion, PARADE asked the President-elect, who is also a devoted family man, to get personal and tell us what he wants for his children. Here, he shares his letter to them.


http://www.parade.com/news/2009/01/barack-obama-letter-to-my-daughters.html


Dear Malia and Sasha,


I know that you've both had a lot of fun these last two years on the campaign trail, going to picnics and parades and state fairs, eating all sorts of junk food your mother and I probably shouldn't have let you have. But I also know that it hasn't always been easy for you and Mom, and that as excited as you both are about that new puppy, it doesn't make up for all the time we've been apart. I know how much I've missed these past two years, and today I want to tell you a little more about why I decided to take our family on this journey.


When I was a young man, I thought life was all about me—about how I'd make my way in the world, become successful, and get the things I want. But then the two of you came into my world with all your curiosity and mischief and those smiles that never fail to fill my heart and light up my day. And suddenly, all my big plans for myself didn't seem so important anymore. I soon found that the greatest joy in my life was the joy I saw in yours. And I realized that my own life wouldn't count for much unless I was able to ensure that you had every opportunity for happiness and fulfillment in yours. In the end, girls, that's why I ran for President: because of what I want for you and for every child in this nation.


I want all our children to go to schools worthy of their potential—schools that challenge them, inspire them, and instill in them a sense of wonder about the world around them. I want them to have the chance to go to college—even if their parents aren't rich. And I want them to get good jobs: jobs that pay well and give them benefits like health care, jobs that let them spend time with their own kids and retire with dignity.


I want us to push the boundaries of discovery so that you'll live to see new technologies and inventions that improve our lives and make our planet cleaner and safer. And I want us to push our own human boundaries to reach beyond the divides of race and region, gender and religion that keep us from seeing the best in each other.


Sometimes we have to send our young men and women into war and other dangerous situations to protect our country—but when we do, I want to make sure that it is only for a very good reason, that we try our best to settle our differences with others peacefully, and that we do everything possible to keep our servicemen and women safe. And I want every child to understand that the blessings these brave Americans fight for are not free—that with the great privilege of being a citizen of this nation comes great responsibility.


 Sasha (l) and Malia Obama at play in New Hampshire in 2007. Bumper cars at the Iowa State Fair in August 2007.That was the lesson your grandmother tried to teach me when I was your age, reading me the opening lines of the Declaration of Independence and telling me about the men and women who marched for equality because they believed those words put to paper two centuries ago should mean something.


She helped me understand that America is great not because it is perfect but because it can always be made better—and that the unfinished work of perfecting our union falls to each of us. It's a charge we pass on to our children, coming closer with each new generation to what we know America should be.


I hope both of you will take up that work, righting the wrongs that you see and working to give others the chances you've had. Not just because you have an obligation to give something back to this country that has given our family so much—although you do have that obligation. But because you have an obligation to yourself. Because it is only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you will realize your true potential.


These are the things I want for you—to grow up in a world with no limits on your dreams and no achievements beyond your reach, and to grow into compassionate, committed women who will help build that world. And I want every child to have the same chances to learn and dream and grow and thrive that you girls have. That's why I've taken our family on this great adventure.


I am so proud of both of you. I love you more than you can ever know. And I am grateful every day for your patience, poise, grace, and humor as we prepare to start our new life together in the White House.


One word comes to mind, regards to Mr. Obama....sm



Karma.






It can be a (b)itch



Obama can't make up his mind whose butt
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Of course it didn't in your mind...... you're an Obama
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You need to make up your mind. Is Obama a Nazi or a Communist? Do you...sm
know the difference? I think not. You are just being inflammatory. He is neither. He is a U.S. constitutional law professor and a proud patriotic American. You need to educate yourself instead of just spouting what you hear from people who are ignorant of the facts.
Oh Lord..........here we go

Now the lady accusing Duke players of attacking her has NOW decided to speak out.  Boy, what a coinkidink that is.   Holy cow, Obama won't stop at anything and for all those O lovers out there that say this has nothing to do with him, you and I both know it has EVERYTHING to do with him. 


Two weeks before election she decides to drag all this up after it was proven she was lying as well as the DA.  No, she thinks a black man will be in the office and now she will speak up and somehow I'm gonna believe her when she was lying before.  Yea, right.


Lord have mercy. nm
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Good LORD!! s/m
I can respect people whose opinions differ from mine but I have no words for people who believe obvious trash like this.  I suspected what I would find so I went to your link to the "video."  Did you happen to notice  that it was just a voice over photo?  I much prefer watching live  rallies where it is evident the candidate is speaking.  I tell you, you are being fooled royally if you believe that garbage and I almost feel sorry for you. But not quite.
Good Lord. You must have no life at all. nm

Good lord. What a post. lol. nm
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My Lord, what do you expect from the Democratic rag, the
Washington Post? Give me a break and the rest of us here. Why don't you read some real new for a change?

Did you know that just a tiny bit of arsenic can make you deathly ill?
Oh good lord, GP. Pals around with?
and what difference does it make what I, Sam, think of Ahhhnold. I am sure Maria likes him, California likes him, but last I knew he wasn't a terrorist, had not bombed any buildings, preached hate....

Are you kiddin' with this?

I wouldn't vote for him because he is liberal as they come....I don't agree with him on ANYTHING.
Exactly! Good Lord.. It is terribly sad.
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Nobody asked you to **deny** your Lord and

believe whatever you believe.  I would never tell you you're wrong because you follow your religion, your faith, your heart.


But you're telling me that I'm wrong because I don't walk lock-step in your footprints.


Therein lies the difference.


good lord do you believe everything you get in chain emails?
*sigh*
Oh Lord I may be laughing too hard to type.

North, get a grip woman!   Are you and A. Nonymous some kind of comedy team?  You’re feeding the straight lines to AN and she (he?) is getting the laughs?  Wow are your buttons easy to push.  I sure hope AN (the drunken cheap scotch/irish nazi) does not stop posting, because this is just too much fun to watch 


 


Yeah we get it.  You’re black,  educated and you speak English well.  You write well so you probably speak OK too.  But you just don’t read so great.  Where in any of these posts did AN say you personally were uneducated or did not have a work ethic?  Where is the part about you not speaking English?  Did you see the word ebonics and just stop reading?  If you care so much about all people why are you not standing up for the other two groups mentioned - do you have something against hispanics and hillbillies? 


 


You have to be very worn out from carrying around that big chip on your shoulder.  Why don’t you put it down and stop taking offense at remarks that were obviously not aimed your way?   The topic was career mooches and freeloaders.  You seem to be an MT and have a job or be on the site looking for one.  Nobody called you anything - why so defensive? 


Can't open the link.nm
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open your eyes
and you believe this?  Democrats misleading the public?  OMG, this administration has mislead us on everything and lies all the time..there is nothing you can believe about this administration cause their only cause is for big business and to pay back those who had Bush in their pockets for the election.  An administration who says Intelligent Design should be taught and there is no such thing as global warming?  Well, gotta tell ya, the reality is..the middle class is being squeezed and the rich are getting richer..I have a friend who was born with a major silver spoon in his mouth and he too agrees, as Clinton does, that the tax breaks are only going to the rich..I have never received a tax break yet I pay quite a bit in taxes..As you defend the republican ideology, the country around you disintegrates..Im so sorry for you, however, you will be there in the ditches with us when everything falls apart and where will Bush be, LOLOLOLOL, in his protected ranch..OPEN YOUR EYES..Nothing in this administration helps the working class/middle class.NOTHING.
I am open minded
but I'm also not gullible to anything that floats down the river either.
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an open letter to God

Sunday, August 31st, 2008


Dear God,


The other night, the Rev. James Dobson's ministry asked all believers to pray for a storm on Thursday night so that the Obama acceptance speech outdoors in Denver would have to be cancelled.


I see that You have answered Rev. Dobson's prayers -- except the storm You have sent to earth is not over Denver, but on its way to New Orleans! In fact, You have scheduled it to hit Louisiana at exactly the moment that George W. Bush is to deliver his speech at the Republican National Convention.


Now, heavenly Father, we all know You have a great sense of humor and impeccable timing. To send a hurricane on the third anniversary of the Katrina disaster AND right at the beginning of the Republican Convention was, at first blush, a stroke of divine irony. I don't blame You, I know You're angry that the Republicans tried to blame YOU for Katrina by calling it an "Act of God" -- when the truth was that the hurricane itself caused few casualties in New Orleans. Over a thousand people died because of the mistakes and neglect caused by humans, not You.


Some of us tried to help after Katrina hit, while Bush ate cake with McCain and twiddled his thumbs. I closed my office in New York and sent my entire staff down to New Orleans to help. I asked people on my website to contribute to the relief effort I organized -- and I ended up sending over two million dollars in donations, food, water, and supplies (collected from thousands of fans) to New Orleans while Bush's FEMA ice trucks were still driving around Maine three weeks later.


But this past Thursday night, the Washington Post reported that the Republicans had begun making plans to possibly postpone the convention. The AP had reported that there were no shelters set up in New Orleans for this storm, and that the levee repairs have not been adequate. In other words, as the great Ronald Reagan would say, "There you go again!"


So the last thing John McCain and the Republicans needed was to have a split-screen on TVs across America: one side with Bush and McCain partying in St. Paul, and on the other side of the screen, live footage of their Republican administration screwing up once again while New Orleans drowns.


So, yes, You have scared the Jesus, Mary and Joseph out of them, and more than a few million of your followers tip their hats to You.


But now it appears that You haven't been having just a little fun with Bush & Co. It appears that Hurricane Gustav is truly heading to New Orleans and the Gulf coast. We hear You, O Lord, loud and clear, just as we did when Rev. Falwell said You made 9/11 happen because of all those gays and abortions. We beseech You, O Merciful One, not to punish us again as Pat Robertson said You did by giving us Katrina because of America's "wholesale slaughter of unborn children." His sentiments were echoed by other Republicans in 2005.


So this is my plea to you: Don't do this to Louisiana again. The Republicans got your message. They are scrambling and doing the best they can to get planes, trains and buses to New Orleans so that everyone can get out. They haven't sent the entire Louisiana National Guard to Iraq this time -- they are already patrolling the city streets. And, in a nod to I don't know what, Bush's head of FEMA has named a man to help manage the federal government's response. His name is W. Michael Moore. I kid you not, heavenly Father. They have sent a man with both my name AND W's to help save the Gulf Coast.


So please God, let the storm die out at sea. It's done enough damage already. If you do this one favor for me, I promise not to invoke your name again. I'll leave that to the followers of Rev. Dobson and to those gathering this week in St. Paul.


Your faithful servant and former seminarian,


Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com


Ooh that's such an open question
I read that and had to laugh. That last sentance will leave you open for all sorts of comments. HA HA.

I actually don't think the word Moron was around when Einstein was. Maybe it was, but his statement doesn't imply that. I've heard the same statement used in different situations and you can just take it for what its worth.
All he has do to is open his mouth....
and stick his size 13 in it. But I don't see you criticizing him. Franklin Roosevelt on TV after crash in 29...only it was Hoover and no TV at that time. Oh I think that ad is terrible. But it's your ad. We did that? Yes, you did that. Well, then we should take it down. Read my lips, NO CLEAN COAL. Obama is FOR clean coal technology.

Still waiting for your critique of Biden.
You need to open your eyes.......
We have Muslim people in our church. They will be the first to tell you that are so glad to be out of the country where this is forced upon them. They will be the first to tell you the Q'ran does not speak of love one another, only love another Muslim. They will be the first to tell you that Westerners do not really know the full extent of the hatred that is taught to the men/sons. They will be the first to tell you they are so glad they learned there is really a God that says to love ALL, love your family members even if they are non-believers, and to love those that hate you. Islam does not teach that. You can yack on and on all you want but you can't show me anything verses that say otherwise. They more than you know the Q'ran back to back and will say it does not speak of love of others and to hate all; Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers.

Sadly, why do you assume those that have denounced Islam don't know their feelings of what they have been through more than you?

You immediately jumped to Christians. Why is that? There are those that have left countries where this is taught, do not accept Christianity, but have denounced what they were taught because it is hate.

You need to get off your anti-Christian bandwagon.
Well, that would open up the world

to anybody, even terrortists, to run for President, doesn't it? Your reasoning is not very sane.


 


 


They wouldn't open for me
I went to his website and didn't find them there either.  As I said, the only thing I saw was a summary by a questionable source.
The doors open--don't let it hit you
--I'm not ashamed of America.
If you are as open-minded as you say you are
why does a countdown that millions of people are doing, whether its openly on a forum, or under their breath, nauseate you so much? Just like the 10-paragraph diatribe above someone launched in reply to the 2930 post, me thinks you doest protest too much. I mean, really, what is the harm in someone being excited and happy at the idea of a changing of the guard?
Open your eyes. It is all over
Look at Lou Dobbs main page.
Without open-mindedness, there will never be change sm
I have my core values and so does everyone else. I would rather be part of the solution than part of the problem. The left are not wackos, just like I know all you righties do not all drink Kool-Aid and have propaganda-soaked brains.