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Nobody asked you to **deny** your Lord and

Posted By: Savior. You have every right to on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: why is it that the Christians are self-righteous sm - MT30+

believe whatever you believe.  I would never tell you you're wrong because you follow your religion, your faith, your heart.


But you're telling me that I'm wrong because I don't walk lock-step in your footprints.


Therein lies the difference.




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Deny, deny, deny. Didn't work for Bill either. (nm)
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I read the one only true Testament of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was infallible Lord....sm
and I am not, and thank you for calling attention to that; I was paraphrasing Paul in his letter to the Hebrews, but my point is still from my heart, the deceptions that went on during the former administration are still causing ruin and death as we speak, and if you chose laugh at me, that is fine, The flamers on this board love to feign superiority, which I belive is against the Bible as Pride, one of the 7 deadly sins, no? I was asking if posters who want to make inflammatory, ridulous remarks could just TRY to confine their comments and posts to pure facts, and then political discussions can bear fruit and have some intelligence and merit. I am working hard as I am writing this, so forgive me if distracted. It is all just noise, rhetoric, and one-upmanship otherwise, while the country crumbles further. Thanks for correcting me, I will double check Mr. Dunniger's quotes.
yes, I asked you...but I asked you a specific question...
about the peace movement. I asked why you did not take your ideals to the real enemies of peace...and your answer was that you leave them to God but will instead preach to us not to fight them, even when they bring the fight to us. So be it.

We will agree to disagree.

I did not personally call you a whiner. As to who sent the military...I will say one thing. When you join the military, you take an oath. That oath has been posted here. You are under no illusions. You know that you may be called to war. It is an all voluntary army over there now. There is no draft. No one is over there because they were forced to go.

As to the people sending having never been...what has that got to do with anything?It was not just George Bush and Dick Cheney, Lurker. It was Congress. Many in Congress do have relatives, even sons and daughters, in Iraq. Have you read the resolution? It is very clear. They knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what it meant. I do not buy the lied to hooey. The Senate and House intelligence committees got the same briefings, or at least enough briefings to vote for the resolution. If they did not (in their own words) use due diligence before signing off on that resolution, whose fault is that? Certainly not Dick Cheney's or George Bush's.

Where were all these people when Clinton was calling for regime change? Because he was a Democrat they will follow him to war? You will see why I do not buy into their rhetoric.

And while I understand your big picture, as I have said over and over and you have never addressed, that will work only if the others in the big picture wish it to work. And if you honestly feel that God wishes that you lay down and let this country be overrun by terrorists, then so be it. I am not of the same mind.

The big difference is that I believe, as did Americans at the time of the Revolution, and that Americans did at the time of the Civil War...and that even some Americans did at the time of Viet Nam...some things are worth dying for. Most of our volunteer military feels the same.

When that is no longer the case, if you are successful in robbing that sense of patriotism from the generations to come without changing the minds of the enemies, where they feel that nothing is worth dying for...in my mind that will only bring death quicker, not keep it at bay, and the loss of the greatest nation on the face of this earth.

So, we agree to disagree.

God bless.
Oh Lord..........here we go

Now the lady accusing Duke players of attacking her has NOW decided to speak out.  Boy, what a coinkidink that is.   Holy cow, Obama won't stop at anything and for all those O lovers out there that say this has nothing to do with him, you and I both know it has EVERYTHING to do with him. 


Two weeks before election she decides to drag all this up after it was proven she was lying as well as the DA.  No, she thinks a black man will be in the office and now she will speak up and somehow I'm gonna believe her when she was lying before.  Yea, right.


Lord have mercy. nm
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Good LORD!! s/m
I can respect people whose opinions differ from mine but I have no words for people who believe obvious trash like this.  I suspected what I would find so I went to your link to the "video."  Did you happen to notice  that it was just a voice over photo?  I much prefer watching live  rallies where it is evident the candidate is speaking.  I tell you, you are being fooled royally if you believe that garbage and I almost feel sorry for you. But not quite.
Deny, deny, deny. lol.
lol
Look....you can deny all you want to and of course you will...
because you are the party of double standards. There are many more nasty personal attacks that have nothing to do with issues on this board by democrats because that is what you like to do...reminds me of the coliseum, the christians and lions. The more blood that is spilled, the louder you all yell and pile on to join in the rending. To each his own.....if that is what floats your boat, have at it. It has become so normal to you, it is just ho-hum.
How can he deny that?
Income redistribution is EXACTLY what it is! How can people be so blind that they cannot see it?

Oh, wait a minue. I'm sure there are a LOT of people wanting this type of plan, because then they don't have to work hard at all and they can have just as much as the guy working his tail end off. That must be it!
Exactly! But some will always deny it.
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Good Lord. You must have no life at all. nm

Good lord. What a post. lol. nm
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My Lord, what do you expect from the Democratic rag, the
Washington Post? Give me a break and the rest of us here. Why don't you read some real new for a change?

Did you know that just a tiny bit of arsenic can make you deathly ill?
Oh good lord, GP. Pals around with?
and what difference does it make what I, Sam, think of Ahhhnold. I am sure Maria likes him, California likes him, but last I knew he wasn't a terrorist, had not bombed any buildings, preached hate....

Are you kiddin' with this?

I wouldn't vote for him because he is liberal as they come....I don't agree with him on ANYTHING.
Exactly! Good Lord.. It is terribly sad.
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These are your posts. Why do you deny saying this?

You never meant a socialist Jew! sm




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Posted By: MT on 2005-07-20,
In Reply to: I know history - gt

What do you think they come up to you and say hi, I am a socialist Jew.  Do you know Noam Chomsky?  How about David Horowitz's parents?  How about the Rosenbergs?  Shall I go on.  Do you wonder why almost all the actors blacklisted in Hollywood way back when were almost all JEWS?!? 


 


Google has 637,000 entries on Jews and communism. sm





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Posted By: MT on 2005-07-20,
In Reply to: LOL - gt

But I guess you read the one history book that didn't have that in it.  Unbelievable.


You will never be able to deny that $559 billion
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And those who deny it is about race...
are just big fat liars, right? I thought so. Thank god, the majority can see beyond the pumpkin-headed belief systems shared by Hitler, KKK and white supremacists.
good lord do you believe everything you get in chain emails?
*sigh*
Well we all know you love your lord Obama, - see message
So you wouldn't see this with an open mind. Luckily enough people are seeing this as being too cultish. Compare it with North Korean videos of the kids singing to their dictator, same with Saddam Hussein's regime and the Hitler Youth Groups. As for the Lyrics "we're going to change the world". That is not the job of the "President of the United States". That means ONLY the united states. Not the whole blasted world. How would you feel if Akmindinajab (sp?) was saying he was going to change the world (of course to the way he thinks). Would you be okay with that?
I had a very open mind, and Obama is not my Lord - nm
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Oh Lord I may be laughing too hard to type.

North, get a grip woman!   Are you and A. Nonymous some kind of comedy team?  You’re feeding the straight lines to AN and she (he?) is getting the laughs?  Wow are your buttons easy to push.  I sure hope AN (the drunken cheap scotch/irish nazi) does not stop posting, because this is just too much fun to watch 


 


Yeah we get it.  You’re black,  educated and you speak English well.  You write well so you probably speak OK too.  But you just don’t read so great.  Where in any of these posts did AN say you personally were uneducated or did not have a work ethic?  Where is the part about you not speaking English?  Did you see the word ebonics and just stop reading?  If you care so much about all people why are you not standing up for the other two groups mentioned - do you have something against hispanics and hillbillies? 


 


You have to be very worn out from carrying around that big chip on your shoulder.  Why don’t you put it down and stop taking offense at remarks that were obviously not aimed your way?   The topic was career mooches and freeloaders.  You seem to be an MT and have a job or be on the site looking for one.  Nobody called you anything - why so defensive? 


How can he deny it? That was news years ago also.
But more curiously, WHY would he deny it? At any rate, the man seems to change ideology as often as he changes his phony Texas accent to adjust to the nature of the (carefully screened, pre-selected and loyalty-oath-signing) crowd he is addressing.
No need to deny something that didn't happen.
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Most bigots deny it til their last breath. I think that they really don't know
.
He does not deny that climate change
He merely disagrees with the causation and purported level of crisis.
He didn't deny anything. He was a cool as a cucumber
and intellect and proceeded to step point by point through the refutation, using McC's own words and voting records to mock the mockery coming out of McC campaign's use of the "S" word. Will post an article or two a bit later this afternoon when they start to show up so you can see for yourself.
So you favor the choice to deny a living child...
independent of the mother...who manages to survive an abortion...medical care that it needs to survive. You condone infanticide.
Obama did not vote to deny a baby care -
Obama clearly stated there was already a law on the books in Illinois that covered this topic and there did not need to be another one.  Do you not understand that?
I never asked you what you did. sm
I made the statement that you are a whiner.  I would never tell the personal information some of you have on here, just for safety's sake if nothing else.
YOU ASKED ME !!!!..

I do not remember specificially but you asked me where were my legs and my mouth. What did I do besides coming to the C board and whining and I answered you.


The peace **movement** as you call it is different from a peaceful nonviolent approach to life. The movement is but one small fraction of trying to live a life of nonviolence. The **movement** shows its face big time when a tragedy the size of Iraq erupts but most of the time we work behind the scenes.


Again, this is our board, I'll preach to the choir as much as I want. If you don't like it, don't read it, how simple is that.


You seem to see promotion of a peaceful existence as one thing and that is resistance to war, or conflict or whatever they are calling it these days. It's all about the **them**, the politburo, the Viet Cong, the communists, the socialists, the terrorists. I don't see things that way. I see a bigger picture, bigger than this country or Iraq or Iran or China or this planet or this galaxy. I have been instructed in no uncertain terms how to behave towards my fellow man. There are no riders attached. That is the part that seems to be so hard for you to deal with. Christ instructed us to love our brothers as ourselves, to do for the least of our brethern as if we were doing for Him. He does not say, except for the drug addicts, the alcoholics, the bums, the slackers, the liars and thieves...there are no riders. That is for Him to sort out, not me.


The terrorists you refer to are everywhere. It is a mind set, not a place.  They are here in our country, they are certainly in Europe, in the Philippines, in Africa, in the islands of the South Pacific, Indonesia. It makes no sense to go somewhere else and protest. We have to look at ourselves first, always. Your approach seems to be to wage war on everyone. I think that is an exercise in futility.  I will stick with my approach. I will continue to pray, continue to do the things I have always done. I empathize with your position, knowing where you come from but I will never see killing as a way to accomplish anything positive. I also sincerely truly and honestly believe the terrorists hate each other more than they hate us and that we would not be in any more danger if we left Iraq than if we stay; in fact, I think just the opposite, the longer we stay, the worse things will become. It is a horrible position our troops have been put into. They were sent into an immoral, unethical, illegal snake pit by people who have never seen a day of combat in their lives, who got out because they had **other priorities.** And now they're stuck and we're stuck and whatever way we extricate ourselves it will not have a good outcome. My own personal opinion is that it is better to get out now and save what lives we can. I know you disagree, so be it.


By the way, I have one question for those of you who have served in the military or have husbands who have done so or are still doing so, doesn't the fact that people like Cheney with 5 deferments bother you/them. That no one who has sent people into war have actually been there themselves. Doesn't that bother you??


As you asked, here's a few...

These are just from the past week.  There's plenty, plenty more, a veritable ton to choose from......


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Can we just admit it...you don't care what the facts are.


What a twisted value system. Twisted.


Here she is folks...the aspiring Ann Coulter of the liberal board.


Don't pretend you actually talk about issues here. You don't.


You do not believe your own platform.


Yeah....liberal compassion. I see a LOT of that on this board....
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Ahh....the writ handed down from she who decides who and who does not deserve compassion. lol.


You care nothing about the truth. I don't even know if you recognize it anymore. Pathetic.


Cannot let go of prejudice long enough to see the truth when it is in plain black and white.


Again...if this is a liberal trait then God save us from liberals...


Typical pile on attack liberal tactics. Just admit it. You know they are lying, you just don't care.


What a twisted, twisted set of values you have.


Denial, denial, denial. It is so patently obvious...you cannot get past the Bush hatred...cannot see the forest for the trees. Amazing....utterly, completely, amazing


You have so much class, reveille...really, so much class. You could not debate an issue if your life depended upon it. Let us hope that it never does.
 
LOL. You do love to wallow in it.... (to Piglet)


 


Once again, you get what you asked for
I gave it to you and you want to call it retoric. You just can't stand it because you have nothing else to go on. Your own man for president is disliked by his own VP. Strange bed fellas indeed. Gotta wonder what's going on there and just how Obama got talked into Biden for his VP.

Didn't you say show us your facts? What about it don't you like? I admit, it doesn't look good does it?

At least Palin wasn't caught putting down McCain left and right. That bothers you I know but too bad.

You can you tube it and find it yourself since even proof isn't good enough for you.

Such denial you guys are in.
I just asked him and he said

he is FOR the secret ballots because he said that companies start intimidating workers when the subject of unions come up, telling them, we will have to cut your pay, prices will go up, we will have to lay off most of our workers and finally, "we'll have to close our doors."  So it cuts both ways.  I'm sure he'll be more than happy to expound on  his RABID pro-union stance if you're sure you're ready for that.  LOL


Yes, I know Todd Palin is a card-carrying union member and good for him but that still doesn't mean I want to see his wife in the White House!!!!


He was never asked
if he spoke to dead presidents or anything about seances with Nancy Reagan.

I'm for Obama doing well but we do not need humor right now. We need some serious answers to what promises he is going to keep to us and what he is going to do to help us.

Granted, this was the first conference I think he's had (I think, not sure), but don't joke. Jokes are not what we need. He needs to take some time, get acclimated, first get sworn in, show the people he is going to do what he promised, and then there will be time for jokes. This was not appropriate.

And he needs to tell the reporters who as the absolute a$$nine questions, that he is there to answer questions about his plans, not his personal life.
You asked for it...
**Fellow Business Executives:***

**As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have resigned**
**myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next President, and**
**that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way.**

**To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will have**
**to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we cannot**
**increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our economy, we**
**will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This has really been**
**eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family here and I didn't**
**know how to choose who will have to go.**

**So, this is what I did. I strolled thru our parking lot and found 8**
**Obama bumper stickers on our employees ' cars and have decided these**
**folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way**
**to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to them.**

**If you have a better idea, let me know.**

**Sincerely,***



*J.D.*

asked, but --
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He also said when asked..(sm)

Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?


"Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice."


So which is it?


Of course I make fun of republicans, just like you guys make fun of dems.  So what else is new?  I'll tell you what.  I'll name one republican who I think is reasonable, and you name one democrat who you think is reasonable.  I'll go first.


How about John McCain's daughter....Meghan McCain.  She is 24 years old, just out of college, and smart as a whip.  She has a column on The Daily Beast.  I think she leans a little more towards the center, but is definitely a fiscal conservative.  Give her about 8 years and if she goes into politics she will be a force to be reckoned with.  Check out these interviews. 


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29645772


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29645895


Who asked you?
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You asked....
here ya' go.
I was asked what I do besides whine, where..
were my legs. This is in response to something on the other board. Again, let me reiterate, I was ASKED.
I asked a question
About Casey Sheehan becuase I honestly didn't know and I have not seen that before.

As far as throwing troops to the dogs, I never said that, I said bring them home, and I am not sure how that got interpreted in to throwing them to the dogs.

But as usual, the conservative posters love to put words in our mouths.

Sigh ...


uhhh well so far I have never asked one of you if you...
pee venom? So far you have the sole capture on that lovely piece trash talk.
I do understand it, which is why I asked you
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You asked the supporters why and they
gave you what they thought, why are you "attacking" this person because you don't like their answer.

It is truly a ridiculous question. It is a flippin' pin. Does it really matter? Shouldn't we be more interested in the people who are running views and formats, be they Democrat or Republican. Why do we keep getting caught up in all of this garbage?!!

Many people were taught that the hand goes on the chest during the pledge and you sing the anthem.
No I asked if someone could tell me why he doesn't and no one knows sm
instead you want to say it is just silly. Who is attacking whom?
Asked and answered...
...ad nauseam!
If you were homeless and asked for one...
you would have gotten it...along with a ride wherever you wanted to go after you voted. lol.
For the poster who asked for me to

was a Moslem.........


The rag was himself while on  "This Week" with George Stephanapoulos.  Obama was talking about his religion and said, " My Muslim faith" and then said when questioned that he "made a mistake".    


Is that enough citing for you or do you not believe what he said either? 


You blind O lovers need to open your eyes folks!


Blindness will get you nowhere when he has sold your country down the river to the terrorists. 


I didn't ask how old it was, I asked
if any of you Republicans want to address it.  Apparently not.  Do you REALLY think the idea is dead?   Oh yeah, now I remember, Republicans. Hallaluja and amen.
I've never been asked either.
I was quite shocked really.  The first time I went to vote I had my voter registration card on me and my driver's license to show them, but they never asked.  Then when I told them that my address had changed, they didn't ask for proof of that, they just marked out my old address and wrote in my new one.  Too easy to mess with the system and that was in a small hillbilly town.  I can't imagine how easy it would be in a huge town.