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Only thing missing is Michael Jackson....way

Posted By: creepy on 2008-10-02
In Reply to: Obama song - way too creepy - me




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Aw, too bad. But, now Michael Jackson...
...is in the Middle East doing consulting about theme parks??? Did I hear that right, what's up with that?
Michael Jackson did it
practically overnight! 
Wow! I didn't know the OP's personal thoughts on the Michael Jackson case.

How did YOU know? 


First thing is a Biography of Pres. Bush, then Welcome to Michael Moore...nm
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I went to Basic & AIT at Ft. Jackson
I'd love to see it now. That would bring back some memories (it was 28 years ago) - man am I that old? HA HA

You missed a bunch of hate-filled messages directed towards me today because I brought up something about Obama they didn't want to hear. Just snyde and dirty nasty hate filled remarks towards me trying to put me down. DH asked why I was so upset and I told him someone was yelling that I'm a racist. I let him read all the messages and he about fell on the floor laughing (I'm black). HA HA That did cheer me up.
What did Jesse Jackson do now? Has he been drinking
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Jesse Jackson and the N-word.

The thought of a man who is supposedly an activist for the black community and here he is calling an African American man the N-word.......just shows how big of a detriment he is to the black community.  Good thing he supports Obama.  I'd hate to see what he would say about him if he wasn't supporting him....Sheesh.  What a load of crap!  I don't want Obama for pres, but I still think the comments Jackson has made are highly offensive.  If I were Obama, I wouldn't want Jackson's backing.  In fact, I would denounce him and state that I could not accept the backing of a man who finds it acceptable to call any African American the N-word.  If any white person had called Jackson the N-word......oh my gosh.....would the poop hit the fan then. 


I'm white and I find the N-word offensive.  I don't like to hear white people saying it and I don't like to hear black people saying it either.  I've never understood why black people find this word so offensive unless another black person is the one saying it.  It is offensive whoever says it.


Yea, where isn't the NAACP, Jackson, Sharpton
I know.... I know.....it's called money.  They'll do anything for money.  Obama knew she was targeting blacks and minorities, basically a predator, and what did he do about it......wonderful man looking out for impoverished and poor.  He swooped her up and made her a friend!!!! 
Jesse Jackson/Obama saga

I find the behavior of Jesse Jackson apalling yet predictable; he has time and time again put his foot in his mouth, more than enough to cause his son to state that his father's comments were inappropriate. He is not the first nor I am sure he will be the last individual to make remarks such as this recent one - whether the mike was 'hot' or not did not merit such a statement.


As for the statements made regarding Obama's view regarding  black fathers not stepping up to the plate and taking care of their children, I almost find that as apalling as the statement Mr. Jackson made about him.  There are many black men who are active in their children's lives whether they are with the child's mother or not; I know of many men (black or otherwise) who are single parents and take care of their families.  It is a constant insult to the black community as being the only community who have 'problems', because they tend to 'hide' from them is bull. The media is so fixated on portraying the black community negatively that many outside of it have bought into the stereotype and hold on to it for various reasons. 


Bill Cosby?  Pleeze!! How can he comment on anyone's morals when it is a well-known fact that he had a very long-term relationship with another woman who was not his wife, provided for a daughter who he says was not 'his' yet can wag his finger at anyone?...Jesse Jackson is no better, he also was involved with another woman who had his daughter to the embarassment and hurt of his wife and children??


I won't even speak on the self-serving comment that "understand I am not prejudiced against black people" that the original poster stated...that kinda speaks for itself...


Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case...sm
Jesse Jackson gets bomb threats over Imus case

April 15, 2007
BY DAVE NEWBART Staff Reporter/ dnewbart@suntimes.com
The Rev. Jesse Jackson has been hit with a series of bomb threats since leading a charge to get shock jock Don Imus fired.

Jackson said he fielded a call Saturday morning urging him to watch his back and warning him to stay away from Rainbow/PUSH headquarters on the South Side.

Friday, a Jackson staffer took a call from someone who claimed to have planted a bomb at the headquarters at 50th and Drexel. The building was evacuated about 12:30 p.m., and police swept the building with bomb-sniffing dogs. Nothing was found.

Jackson said he has received 10 to 12 threats starting Wednesday or Thursday. The calls have gone to his office, his home and his cell phone. Although he hasn't fielded most of the calls, he said he believes there are different people behind them.

A police spokeswoman said an investigation is ongoing.

In New York, meanwhile, WCBSTV.com reported the Rev. Al Sharpton has also received death threats after criticizing Imus.

Imus was fired from his radio show for calling members of the Rutgers women's basketball team nappy-headed hos.
I think Jesse Jackson's probem is that Obama is not trying to hide the problems - see message
He is not trying to hide the problems in the black community - like his speech about father's needing to stand up and become involved in their children's lives - not just "bear the fruit" and leave it to rot... Most black people want their problems kept quiet and they will take care of it themselves. Also if there is a problem in the black community, they want to take care of it themselves and not broadcast it for the world to become aware (like they do not already know). As long as there is not a prominent black figure calling attention to their problems, they don't have to recognize them.

It is the same with Bill Cosby. The black community does not like it that he calls attention through the media to the problems. If he were just working behind the scenes quietly, it would be okay.

Understand, I am not prejudiced against black people - very involved with black people and therefore know some of how they think - agree with some of it and disagree with some of it.
what am i missing?
i went to links, and i don't see it, just about the underground facility that the govn't has that i've known about forever...concentration camps???
You are missing the point. SM

It is known that Laura Bush was the driver of a car when she was very young in which someone was killed.  However, much embellishment to that was made that she was drunk.  When I asked for a credible link to that, you simply ignored me.  This is not debate. It is throwing wild accusations out there and then refusing to back them up with verifiable data.  I liken this to small town gossip, not a lot of truth to it, probably going to hurt someone in the end, but it sure is fun when we are making up stuff.  Since you don't care what I think about you, you won't mind if I tell you that you have shot any credibility you still had left. Now, I will adjourn from "your" board and go find some adults to communicate with.  


The link is still missing. nm
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some of it is missing, not just the pics.
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So what is your point - I'm missing it
I read my article a couple times. I'm not seeing what point you are trying to make.
I think every one is just missing the point...
see anyone's view but your own.
This is to what I was referring.

"Like a lot of folks in this state I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them??
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butt. Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?????

You are missing the point
It's not what he eats, its the sickening fact that the poster said he is like because he eats what we do.

Yeah, there IS an echo. Please listen before attacking me.
What point are you missing here?
Have you just not read anything? You seem to have inflicted this feeling on yourself. I have said nothing about the working people accepting welfare or food stamps when they have fallen on hard times. No one called you lazy.

I realize you are just too upset to actually read what I am stating and perhaps because of your personal circumstances, you feel you're being attacked, but if you would actual read what I have stated above, I believe you would see the point I talking about.

The point being I am not talking about the working people who through no fault of their own having to accept welfare, food stamps, or any help they can find for themselves or their family. I am talking ONLY about those who DON'T work, have never worked, and do not EVER intend to work receiving all these things you are trying to receive.

Don't you believe you, a person who has actually worked and tried to pay your own way in life, should have these things offered you over someone who has offered nothing productive to this ountry but taking?

Would you rather be turned down medical help or any help in the future because the money just isn't there because we have spent it by the trillions on those who have never even worked a day in their lives? I say to you accept everything offered you. You shouldn't have to have hospitals pull strings for you in the first place; you should be getting medical attention regardless, which is the point you are missing.

Those who NEVER work and are on Medicaid and receive all their care from the government, always get medical attention. Those like yourself who do work are having to struggle to get medical care. What part of that do you not see as unfair?


I believe you're missing something
I agree with Obama on this. The fight that we should be having (not necessarily the one Dubya got us into) is not with Islam. Much like that lunatic 'Reverend' Phelps does not represent all Christians, the Taliban does not represent all Islam. Unless you're wishing to start the kind of holy war that you are (mistakenly) condemning Islam of waging, you have to learn to differentiate moderate Islam from radical Islam, and accept that our facts that a war should be fought not based on religious beliefs but rather evil deeds.
You're not missing anything! (sm)

And (SURPRISE!) there are no lies. 


Gore waited for two years before speaking out about the Bush agenda.  On the other hand, Cheney is coming out after about two MONTHS, on a repeated ramage, appearing on every political show that will have him, is sending out his DAUGHTER to parrot his views and, in short, is trying to undermine the Obama administration.  Cheney first denied using torture and now is proudly claiming ownership of it. 


No lies here.  But you obviously already knew that.


Link is missing LVMT...nm

What's missing is a valid premise.
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What's missing here is your understanding of this thread....
it is about infants born alive after botched abortions and left to die without care. Partial birth abortion is when they turn the baby around in the womb, let all but the head be born, then stick a needle in base of skull and suck the brain out to collapse the skull and make sure the baby is dead before it comes out, to avoid that pesky being born alive thing that proabortion people so hate.

At least get your facts straight and know what you are denying before you deny it.

And yes, he does support partial birth abortion. He supports removing the ban on that heinous procedure. His wife sent out a campaign letter while he was running for senate in Illinois that said that very thing.

Sheesh.
Looks like it was a point worth missing.
you decide to let us in on what that elusive point might be.
Don't feel too bad. Obama is missing it too...sm
which will result in one of the many reasons he will lose this election, and be relegated to being one of the greatest "could have beens" in history, and never be heard from again. No big loss really. Maybe if he can get overcome his "present" voting style, someday he'll be back...but I highly doubt it.


He's history.
You're missing the point.
Her age dictates his eligibility to run for president. There are lawsuits out now regarding this.
You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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I think you're missing the point...(sm)

World economy, eliminting industries, creating new ones -- all things that can be dealt with.


Extinction of humans -- not so much.


 


I gues I'm missing your point
The whole text seems to actually reiterate the fact that one of the founding principles of the country is freedom of speech, even that which you don't agree with it. This lunatic Phelps is going into a community that is openly "Gay is Okay" with the only intent to cause problems, and the whole article is about the discussion of ways to circumvent Phelp's plans.

I think you should maybe read up more on the activities of Phelps and his group before using him as your poster child as a good Christian. Based on the military's 'Don't Ask/Don't Tell' policy toward gays, Phelps has felt it okay to go to the funerals of soldiers who have died honorably while serving their country in Iraq and proudly waved signs saying their deaths were retribution for the military's condoning of homosexuality. Frankly, even if I was a bible-toting, salvation-seeking, Christian who faints at the mere thought of gay marriage, I'd probably still want to distance myself from Rev. Phelps as much as possible.
If you don't listen to Rush, you're not missing much. sm

The Quotable Limbaugh...


On homosexuality: "When a gay person turns his back on you, it's anything but an insult - it's an invitation. The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit."


On the homeless: "One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the Homeless Olympics. The 10-meter Shopping Cart Relay, the Dumpster Dig, and the Hop, Skip and Trip."


On NAFTA: "If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."


On Native Americans: "There are more American Indians alive today than there were when Columbus arrived or at any other time in history. Does this sound like a record of Genocide?"


On feminism: "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along."


On feminazis: "Militant feminists are pro-choice because it's their ultimate avenue of power over men... It is their attempt to impose their will on the rest of society, particularly on men."


On corporate layoffs: "Why is it that whenever a corporation fires workers, it's never speculated that the workers might have deserved it?"


On Kurt Cobain: "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris."


Speculating as to how a Mexican won the New York marathon: "An immigration agent chased him for the last 10 miles."


Isn't the Bill Maher board missing you?

your link & good sense are missing.
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pardon my missing comma (blush)

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You're missing one crucial point
No where in there did you say that these white evangelical ministers are spouting hatred towards black people, calling them "less than human" or spouting about "black liberation theology" or the teaching of "Dr. James Cone".

Now if our "white preachers" were to go on and on about "white theology" and if our websites said "a white congregation" we would be immediately portrayed as racist. But it's okay for the United Trinity Church of Christ (Obama's church or former church, whatever) to have all over their website that they are a BLACK church. See for yourself:

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27

So I take it a white person walking in there wouldn't be very welcome?

Talk about racism.
You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.

When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
Nicely worded but you are missing an important point
I don't know the history of your posts, but when you suggest: "Democrats/liberals, start your threads, and I will not encroach upon them. I would ask for the same respect from you as I post independently. There will be no need for you to open any of them or to spend half a page piling on. I will respect your threads. Kindly respect others."

You are forgetting at least two things:
1. If we are supposed to NOT be divided as you post toward the end, WHY would you actively ask people with different opinions NOT to respond (encroach) on your threads? Do you want ONLY people who agree with you to respond? Think about that before you answer.
2. Until/unless the moderators CENSOR this board and not allow anyone to post to anything, it's not up to you to tell me or anyone else what they can post, or where. You say in your post: So let's allow both sides to present views, support their candidates, exercise our right to free speech, have diverging opinions.... but telling people not to encroach on your space and vice versa is the antithesis of "allowing both sides to present view... have divergent opinons.

Finally, don't be too sensivive: If someone responds to my post with hate, an insult, etc., I can simply CHOOSE to ignore the post. Choose your battles.

As for me, I have total respect for Senator McCain's *military* experience, but I don't want someone who has voted 90% with the most corrupt 'president' in our history - to be in charge of my America for the next 4+ years. He's not a Maverick, he's a hypocrite and bush minion.

I had that happen one time too...a post turning up missing. sm
And all I did was say I felt other posters were being too harsh. That was it. So I emailed the moderators and the reply I got was that if somebody complains about a post, then all the replies associated with that post are also deleted along with the offending post.

I hope this helps shed light on your missing post.
And I think everyone that thinks the issue of his BC is not important is missing the point..

if indeed he was born elsewhere and he is hiding it, what a way to start a presidency.  What else will he hide or lie about.  JUST have a judge look at your certificate and validate it for EVERYONE, so that we can feel comfortable in knowing. 


Michael J. Fox. sm

I read that he did not take his medication deliberately so that people could see the full effects of his disease.  That's just a tad manipulative, if you ask me.  At any rate, I don't believe, and will never support, stem cell initiatives.  There is much much more to these programs than is being presented to the public. 


Michael J. Fox. sm
IT IS MANIPULATIVE.  I believe capitals were warranted in this occasion and it IS about MJF and his ad.  The MJF we have seen through the years is not the MJF in the video. I have seen it, have you?  There is no guarantee that stem cell research will do anything for him.  It is manipulative to the extreme.  I believe Rush has apologized.  But of course, the left never accepts apologies of any kind.
Chairman of Missing and Exploited Children Caucus Resigns...sm

But not before he solicited at least two teenagers via email/internet.  See articlee (be sure to read on and see what he says to them).


Michael Rupert.
Cynthia McKinney, Rep. for the Loony Left
By Matthew Continetti
Weekly Standard | January 5, 2005



THE INCOMING REPRESENTATIVE FROM GEORGIA'S 4th congressional district is the outspoken Cynthia McKinney. She is a Democrat, she is 49 years old, and she has held the job before. She held it for a decade, in fact, from 1992, when she became the first black woman elected to Congress from Georgia, to 2002--when, she says, the hostile corporate media, allied with Republicans, repeated falsehoods about her, distorted her positions, and drove her from my seat.


That is McKinney's explanation for her 2002 primary defeat, and she is sticking to it. But there are other explanations. Her father, Georgia state legislator Billy McKinney, shared his version with an Atlanta television reporter on August 19, 2002, the night before she lost. The reporter had asked Billy McKinney about his daughter's use of a years-old, moth-balled endorsement from former Atlanta mayor Andrew Young. Such endorsements were worthless, the elder McKinney replied, because Jews have bought everybody. Jews. In case the reporter didn't understand, he spelled the word: J-E-W-S. (A few weeks later, in a runoff against a political neophyte, Billy McKinney became a former Georgia state legislator.)


The actual reason why Cynthia McKinney left Congress in 2002 was that, for once, she couldn't outrun her mouth. She had walked along the cutting edge of progressive politics for years--appearing with Louis Farrakhan, calling globalization a cruel hoax, advocating for Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe--but then, in a March 25, 2002, interview on KPFA Pacifica radio, she suddenly fell off.


We know there were numerous warnings of the events to come on September 11, McKinney said that day. What did this administration know and when did it know it, about the events of September 11? Who else knew, and why did they not warn the innocent people of New York who were needlessly murdered? What do they have to hide? McKinney thought she knew the answer. What is undeniable, she explained, is that corporations close to the administration have directly benefited from the increased defense spending arising from the aftermath of September 11th.


It was all downhill from there. On April 12, 2002, a synopsis of the interview appeared in the Washington Post. Democrats began distancing themselves from McKinney. She released a statement admitting she was not aware of any evidence proving President Bush or members of his administration have personally profited from the attacks of 9/11, but a complete investigation might reveal that to be the case. Then again, it might not. For that matter, McKinney might have had no idea what she was talking about.


Appearing in print just months after the September 11 attacks, McKinney's charges couldn't be excused. Nor could her list of campaign donors, which included both terrorist sympathizers like Abdurahman Alamoudi, the former executive director of the American Muslim Council, and apparent actual terrorists like former college professor Sami Al-Arian. Nor could her October 12, 2001, letter to Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal, in which she rebuked New York mayor Rudy Giuliani for returning the prince's post-9/11 gift of $10 million and urged bin Talal to donate the funds to charities outside the mayor's control, especially those that dealt with poor blacks who sleep on the street in the shadows of our nation's Capitol. Giuliani had returned the Saudi's money because it came with the implicit condition that America address some of the issues that led to such a criminal [9/11] attack, among them its policies in the Middle East, where our Palestinian brethren continue to be slaughtered at the hands of Israelis while the world turns the other cheek. To Giuliani, such a statement made excuses for terrorism. This wasn't a problem for McKinney.


And why should it have been? Her bent for conspiracy theories and racebaiting had never cost her politically. When she said in 1996 that we need to get the government out of the drug business, she was not talking about a possible prescription drug benefit. Whether it was the time she told USA Today that My impression of modern-day black Republicans is they have to pass a litmus test in which all black blood is extracted, or the time she accused Al Gore of having a low Negro tolerance level, she emerged unscathed from the ensuing kerfuffles. Facing a tough race in 1996, McKinney said Georgia Republicans like her opponent John Mitnick were neo-Confederates remaindered from Civil War days. Amazingly, McKinney ignored the fact that Mitnick was Jewish.


Her father did not. Over and over again, Billy McKinney called Mitnick a racist Jew. As Slate's Chris Suellentrop noticed, when the New York Times asked Billy McKinney to elaborate on his comments, he simply repeated that Mitnick is a racist Jew, that's what he is, isn't he? The controversy over Billy McKinney's comments lasted weeks. Disgraced, he resigned from his daughter's campaign. That year, Cynthia McKinney won 58 percent of the vote.


In 2002, though, thanks to McKinney's interview with Pacifica radio, the tiny streams of anti-McKinney criticism that had been collecting in pools for years turned into a flood. The September 11 attacks were vibrant and terrifying memories when McKinney accused the president of profiting from them. Remember, too, that when McKinney accused the president of being a calculating war profiteer, his approval rating was over 75 percent.


But times change. Two years later, McKinney is still her old self, while the world has become a lot more accommodating to loony theories about President Bush. Apparently her own district is no exception. The 4th District this year was an open seat; Denise Majette, who defeated McKinney in 2002, decided to run for the Senate instead, but McKinney still faced five opponents in last summer's Democratic primary and dispatched them all without a runoff. And while she avoided making any controversial statements, and politely deflected criticism of things she had said in the past, her conspiracism and racialism were still there beneath the surface.


Occasionally they would bubble up. McKinney is defensive about the Pacifica interview, and there are links on her campaign website to two articles by the left-wing BBC journalist Greg Palast that attempt to absolve her of conspiracy-mongering. One of these articles is entitled The Screwing of Cynthia McKinney. The other is entitled Re-lynching Cynthia McKinney. Palast writes that McKinney has never actually said President Bush had foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks. Which is true. She hasn't. She's just implied it repeatedly.


What's striking about McKinney's website is that, even as it attempts to debunk a variety of misinformation about her, it also takes great pains to claim vindication for that same misinformation. There is a link, for example, to Exposed: The Carlyle Group, a 48-minute documentary that purports to reveal the depth of corruption and deceit within the highest ranks of our government. There is a link to an article in the South DeKalb County CrossRoads News entitled Where is Cynthia McKinney During 9/11 Hearings? in which the author describes being enraged that McKinney was not included in the public hearings of the 9/11 Commission, since she was the only elected official who had the guts to bring President Bush's war profiting scheme to the light.


A few links more, and you wind up at McKinney's speech Democracy Is Under Attack--Let's take it Back. The speech is a sort of lodestone for McKinniacs. It is a rambling series of remarks delivered at the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem in July 2003. It is an angry speech. I can't be calm when I drive through sections of Atlanta that look more like Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, than America, McKinney explains. Yet the speech is notable mainly for the way in which it references McKinney's conspiracy theorist guru, a man named Michael Ruppert.


Michael Ruppert is a former LAPD detective who is best known for his theories on CIA drug trafficking. Those theories--namely, that the CIA was behind the crack cocaine epidemic in America's inner cities--briefly made headlines in mainstream newspapers in 1996, and Ruppert is hoping for a sequel. Since 9/11, he has toured the country discussing how the Bush administration, Enron, Israeli intelligence, the Pakistani ISI, the Saudis, and Osama bin Laden were behind the terrorist attacks. Ruppert's theories are lucrative. Chip Berlet, who studies conspiracism as a senior analyst at Public Research Associates, a progressive group, told me that Ruppert speaks regularly to sold-out crowds.


As you may know, I'm involved with Mike Ruppert of From the Wilderness, McKinney says in her Democracy Is Under Attack speech. From the Wilderness is the title of Ruppert's newsletter and website. McKinney probably got the idea that the USS Abraham Lincoln was really in San Diego harbor when Bush landed on it in May 2003 from Ruppert. So, too, her idea that Bush and his friends stood to profit from the 9/11 attacks, which she expands upon in another manifesto, the March 2002 Thoughts on Our War Against Terrorism:



Former President Bush sits on the board of the Carlyle Group. The Los Angeles Times reports that on a single day last month, Carlyle earned $237 million selling shares in United Defense Industries, the Army's fifth-largest contractor. The stock offering was well timed: Carlyle officials say they decided to take the company public only after the Sept. 11 attacks.



Such ideas figure prominently in The Truth and Lies of 9/11, a videotaped lecture that Ruppert delivered at Portland State University on November 28, 2001. The lecture is 135 minutes long. It feels much longer. In it, Ruppert talks about the CIA, the Bush administration, the Carlyle Group, UNOCAL oil pipelines in Afghanistan, the Mossad, and--go figure--orange juice. The bottom line is that the Bush administration knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and allowed them to happen for profit. Also, the world financial system is on the brink of collapse.


In its apocalyptic overtones, in its internationalist plot, in its view that apparent enemies are secretly collaborating, Ruppert's The Truth and Lies of 9/11 is a textbook conspiracy theory. It is also a vehicle for Cynthia McKinney. She utters the penultimate line, and it's a doozy. The American people, she says, might have a criminal syndicate running their government.


It's a sinkhole, said Chip Berlet, when I first asked him about these conspiracy theories. He sounded a note of regret about McKinney. A lot of McKinney's complaints about the government are standard progressive fare.


But which ones? Her conspiracy theories, or her hard-left politics? In truth, the line between the two is increasingly difficult to discern. I bought my copy of The Truth and Lies of 9/11 last June, at the Take Back America conference for progressive and Democratic activists in Washington, D.C. In a ballroom nearby, in earshot of the bookstand where Ruppert's video was being sold, Hillary Clinton and George Soros delivered keynote speeches. A few weeks after the conference, Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, which glibly hints at possible government foreknowledge of the terrorist attacks, was screened for the Senate Democratic caucus at the Uptown Theater in Washington. The film received a standing ovation.


Maybe all of this helps explain why Cynthia McKinney got her seat back. Maybe when McKinney shared her disturbing theories about President Bush in 2002, she was not so much falling off the edge of progressive politics as anticipating it. And she shows no signs of slowing down. I will probably get in trouble for what I've said to you tonight, McKinney told her audience at the Abyssinian Baptist Church in 2003. But it won't be the first time I get in trouble for telling the truth. And I'll continue to tell the truth. As I have said before, I won't sit down and I won't shut up. Too bad.




She gets by with it the same way Michael Moore gets by with it...
he has said some pretty hateful things himself. And here is a pretty hateful personal attack from AL Franken: *I said that Sean Hannity took residence up
Newt Gingrich's butt from 94 to 98. I got
that from British intelligence. It turns out
he only took up residence in 95* but you did not see that reported in the media with conservatives running backward and screeching. That is a hateful tasteless personal attack. Here is another: Republicans are shameless d**ks. No, that's not fair. Republican politicians are shameless d**ks. Lovely, eh? And another one: Minnesota Republican Norman Coleman is one of the administration's leading butt boys. Classless, tasteless.
So you see what I am saying...the left accepts crap from Al Franken but will not accept crap from Ann Coulter. Crap is crap in my opinion.
I think Michael Moore
is a brave patriot, but that would feed into the conspiracy theory.  I would be happy with any of recognized Sunday interview programs to start with. 
Michael Moore
I've seen some of his movies, not all.  I happen to also agree with his documentary on 9/11.  There is evil afoot in our government and it's been going on for a very long time.  Neither party is exempt from blame which is why I am independent.  I would vote for (and have done so)a republican  in a New York minute if I felt they had the best agenda for REAL change.  I will admit that I probably lean more toward Democrats than Republicans as I feel they get their riches more from the middle class (i.e. labor) and the Republicans get their's from big business but please do not get busy calling me a DEMOCRAT!!!!!  I have a brain that I use for reasoning and I don't support EITHER party as a whole.
Actually....Michael Moore did just that...
in his move.  He went around the world and asked about healthcare.  He also took Americans who could not afford medications here in the US to other countries with universal health care and guess what?  They were actually treated!  You might want to go to Blockbuster and check that one out....LOL.
Michael Steele. I really like this guy.
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Michael Steele....(sm)
As noted by someone on SNL (I think).....You do know it doesn't work with just any black guy?  ROFL.
I am not a fan of Michael Savage...
but certainly don't think he should be banned from the U.S. As far as Britain, I really don't care who they ban. There is a reason we declared our independence--this is pretty much it. We certainly should not emulate them. As far as Michael Savage goes, I am very conservative and I listen to conservative talk radio. I turn it off when Savage comes on. It's a great place we live in where Michael Savage can be on the radio saying whatever he wants to say and I am free to turn it off.
and don't forget Michael Moore!