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I like #5. I have heard another survivor trait is the ability to quickly adapt. nm

Posted By: MT52 on 2009-03-07
In Reply to: Points to ponder...... - A. Nonymous

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Again...if this is a liberal trait then God save us from liberals...
that is taken from the actual court filing. I did NOT say it was my original thinking...hellooo get a grip!! It is from the original court filing...CBS, NBC, CNN, the whole lot of them filed a suit in court trying to stop Fitzgerald from making the reporters reveal their sources. It has nothing to do with neocon or whatever other smoke screen you want to throw up. Go ahead and attack me if you like, that does not change the truth, and any rational human being can see that. You make no point at all in this ridiculous rant.

Let me get this straight...a brief to the US District Count is a right wing rag, but CBS is the sterling banner of truth? Typical pile on attack liberal tactics. Just admit it. You know they are lying, you just don't care.
Sorry, but I cannot adapt to

It is not in my religious beliefs.


Learning to adapt...
I am now in school to earn an accounting degree and I am most definitely taking the Speaking Spanish In Business class as an elective because it is here people - like it or not. You are all going to have to wake up and see where our future is heading and prepare for it - what is the problem with learning another language anyway? I don't say make their language "THE" language - but we have to live together and we might as well be able to work together!
I don't watch survivor -sm
I had never heard that. I don't watch survivor, American Idol or other shows like that. I'm too busy working 16 hours a day to save up because if if Obama wins I'll at least have a little extra money for food cos he's gonna take everything else I have.

The tribe has spoken...give me a break! I'm in the real world here. Not one of la-la land.

72 yrs old and 2-time cancer survivor.
Before you go off, this is NOT wishful thinking, just simple fact. The only thing scarier than a McCain presidency would be a Palin presidency.
One coal mine survivor...see article

TALLMANSVILLE, W.Va. - In a stunning and heartbreaking announcement, mining officials told family members early Wednesday that 11 of the 12 trapped coal miners initially thought to have survived a mine explosion had died.


The devastating news came more than three hours after relatives gathered at a nearby church had heard that 12 of the miners survived the disaster. Rescue crews found the first victim earlier Tuesday evening.


“It’s sorrow beyond belief,” Ben Hatfield, chief executive officer of mine owner International Coal Group, said during a news conference.


Gov. Joe Manchin said that, “about the confusion, I can’t tell you of anything more heart-wrenching than I’ve ever gone through in my life. Nothing.”


“I can feel the outrage,” he later told NBC’s “Today” show, referring to the anger from the victims’ families.


Manchin said the state would investigate the cause of the explosion, the miscommunication and the mine’s numerous safety and health violations last year. “We’re going to look into this,” Manchin vowed.


John Bennett, whose father Jim Bennett was one of the victims and had been due to retire in April, complained that his father would “tell me how unsafe the mine is.”


Problems at the mine had been “going on for months ... and they still send men in,” Bennett told “Today,” adding that he felt that if the mine owner had allowed workers to unionize the violations wouldn’t have happened.


Another RICO suit from 911 hero/survivor.sm
William Rodriguez was the last known person out of the North Tower alive, and helped rescue people out of the tower.

Here is his story:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/Rodriguez.htm

Here is the link to the RICO
suit:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/RodriguezComplaint.htm
I'd like to see demonstrated ability to change
I really don't think much will change, no matter who the POTUS, when I see the way people treat each other with such utter lack of disrespect as human beings. And I mean this all over, not just in the political arena or here on this board. First major snag and even the ever-so-highly regarded Barack will be to blame and butt of all jokes just like every other president.
But we are losing our ability to choose every day.
Can't have a fast food place in low income neighborhoods in California anymore because someone has decided because people have low incomes, they obviously can't make their own choices.

Can't have trans fat because someone has decided we can't decide for ourselves what those are.

Businessowners can no longer decide to allow smoking in their bars where majority of patrons are smokers in many places because someone else has decided it's for the greater good if they don't.

I could go on. It isn't Democrat or Republican, it's WE THE PEOPLE allowing these things to happen, allowing ourselves to be duped by studies, doctors, and scientists who think they know what is best for everyone and that we aren't capable of making choices on our own. If we don't stop it in its tracks, it won't matter which party or who is in office. It will continue to spin out of control until we no longer have the choices of which you speak! But in order to make any difference, we have to be united and stop turning on each other.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure anyone can quickly
get us out of Iraq. What's more important to me is to have a comprehensive plan. We are in a HUGE (I cannot emphasize that enough) mess that is going to take time to get cleaned up. I'm not sure I truly believe those that say they will have us out 3 months after taking office. I do want us OUT of Iraq, more than you can imagine, but we have to handle this correctly. I am interested in hearing more of what the candidates have to say about how exactly they would do things.
How quickly we forget...(sm)

Bush has made campaign promises to: 


Lower the price of oil -- didn't happen. Reform healthcare -- didn't happen.  Improve foreign relations -- sooo didn't happen.  Education reform -- not even close.  Increase domestic oil and gas production and exploration -- another swing and a miss.  "Transition to a market economy" not dependent on federal supports. --  ROFL.  That's just a few.


You seem to think it's okay for Bush to not come through on his promises (for 2 terms in a row), but you are just dying to jump all over Obama who hasn't even been sworn in yet. 


Oh Please, how we forget so quickly.
Bush will write a book and will be able to share some of the terrorist acts that were to happen on US soil and attacks were able to be stopped before they happened. Bush could not tell about because of being in office, but now he will share. I bet it had something to do with Iraq too.

You forget so quickly. Just be glad you were not in NY area during 911, but then if you were, maybe you would remember.
How quickly we forget....(sm)

What I want to know is why can't the government start something that would charge companies who outsource production to other countries? 


The answer to that lies in Bush tax cuts to those corporations.  Watch that stimulus plan.  The pubs want to add more tax cuts for those very same companies instead of working on infrastructure which is what this stimulus is all about in the long run.


And since we're talking about the stimulus, here's what I think.  I am in favor of it.  However, Obama tried to compromise with the pubs and put in some of their tax cuts and cut out some of his programs in the hopes of getting some pub support.  I say since they obviously aren't going to support it unless it looks like another pub trickle down tax cut (as evidenced by no pub votes in the house), the dems just need to go back to the original plan (maybe adding more for infrastructure) and just push the bill past the pubs.  If they don't want to be part of the solution, then they can just sit on the side lines and whine like they always do.  Maybe some of those midnight sessions like the pubs do to get stuff passed is in order.


I don't recall saying I was right or left for that matter. What happened to your ability to sm
consider that and not label?
In that case, I am truly impressed by her ability to get her nose up her own buttocks!
Maybe being a contortionist is her true calling in life!
If you lose your ability to work, you're gonna need it

Ask Obama today - quickly
Want the president's ear?  Go go whitehouse.gov quickly and ask a question for the town hall meeting for today.  Only two hours left for questions.
And you don't even have the ability to recognize one of your posts coming back to smack you in the

I don't see how it can affect her ability to read questions and sit and listen to answers - nm
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You're right - the US is quickly turning into a total
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Ditto. I hope she recovers quickly, as well. (nm)
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Followed quickly by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. nm
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Oh, and Obama had better get on Welfare reform QUICKLY before it is a run-away train, or did the tra
already leave the station. Extension of unemployment benefits, GREAT, because in this economy it takes so much more time to find a worthwhile job. Extension of COBRA is great. But the free ride that many dishonest and lazy Americans have enjoyed for generations should be put to an abrupt END. Sorry, I see it every day. Hire enough trained, educated case workers, get them out in the field investigating these fraudulant claims, and give the truly deserving and huring population the funds they need to get back on track, as they want to, and push the lazy and indigent to get productive for our country.

I also love the money going directly to the SBA (Small Business Administration), so many of us are fed up and would probably do better working with the SBA to secure low-interest, easy term loans, employ ourselves, employ others, get the taxes rolling, and be part of the solution. Okay safely off soap box for now!
Heard that before.
When was that? Oh yeah! Gee, I really miss Nan, I wish she'd come back to the board. LOL!!!

I apologize to those who don't know what I'm talking about - again, the guilty party knows full well.

Anyway how's this for a subject? - The mayor New Orleans was a Republican before he ran, and switched his party affiliation to Democrat before he was successfully elected. Landreau is a Democrat. The Louisiana governor is a Democrat. Seems we have a lot of democratic leaders in an otherwise supposedly Republican state.

Wonder what effect if any that has had on the slow and disinterested response from the federal govt. in helping the people of New Orleans?
Everybody's heard of her now, eh?
That was a long article, but I think it did highlight the fact that Bush is neither a friendly or a courteous guy - insiders have been saying that for years. Can't use the excuse that he didn't want some antiwar journalist raking him over the coals - that kind of journalist would never have been allowed within the same building as he, if she had that kind of reputation.

It seems clear that the Bushes consider themselves American Royalty and that's unfortunate, because America was born from a resentment of just that kind of above-the-law holier-than-thou don't- speak-until-he-does kind of nonsense.
This is the first I heard of this.
Thanks for posting it.  I love the title, Water the Bushes.  :-)
Have you heard this one before?
The proof is in the pudding.
That's because I have heard sm
holding one's breath until one turns blue tends to affect cognition. But I have only heard that, I am not sure there is any truth to it.  Would you happen to know?
I heard that.
It was published in some conservative magazine but was unfounded. He never went to school in Africa at all. The magazine said that they got it from the Clinton campaign. I am wondering since when did a conservative publication print anything the Clinton campaign has to say. Anyway, I still think knowing first hand something about Muslims and Islam would be beneficial.
Well, I have heard

that it is "HARD WORK" and he is "WORKIN HARD"   I know this is true coz this is what he told us in the last prez debate.


 


only heard a little of it, but
apparently did not realize he had a "hot" mike and said something about obama may be talking down to the black communities. now it has been "taken out of context" and he has apologized and made it clear he supports obama.
Sorry. I did not know that. Had not heard that.
I will post link from now on. My apologies.
No....the last I heard they really don't know...
who is going to speak when. I had not heard he cancelled. Several have been postponed because of the hurricane.
I heard this, but....
I heard the story too. I have not been able to find a credible source to be able to acknowledge or deny it. But I think she would have some very very serious problems. I remember some religious leaders were trying to ban the Harry Potter books and there was a huge uproar. People may think she's going to do this or that, but I think we have to remember she has to get approval from congress. The VP alone cannot make these decisions and pass laws. It would have to be voted on.

I heard what he said....he did not say the...
economy was strong, that is not what he said this morning. He said the foundation of the economy is strong, and it is, or the situation on wall street today would have been much worse. He, in fact, said that the economy was in crisis and it needed to be dealt with in the way of reforming of lending companies, regulating non-bank lenders, etc. (non-bank meaning lenders not backed by the FDIC)...which all makes very good sense, since all these lenders folding and the housing decline have more to do with the economy going downhill than anything else. At least he is not talking about raising taxes on already stressed companies like Mr. Obama is.

And come to think of it...how can Obama give a tax break to 95% of people when right about 40% don't even pay taxes? How can you give a tax break to someone who doesn't pay taxes anyway? Oh yeah...you tax the companies that provide about 80% of the jobs in this country and give those 40% a freebie. And somehow that is supposed to help?
I heard
I heard reports he did not quit.
as you may have heard

long ago in pre-history class,  the prez and VP work FOR us.  If they want the job, they have to communicate with us, even when they don't like it or are having problems with Todd.


 


Here is what I heard
Okay, I've been working all day but DH has had the TV up full blast (he's a news junkie), so have caught things here and there.

My understanding is this (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to pass on false information).

JM and BO both go to WA and there is a big meeting with the pres and all the other people. I heard that things were "cordial" when the press was in taking pictures but once they left there was yelling, arguing, fists pounding on desks, etc, etc. I heard it did not end very good at all and people ended leaving and sounds like some people won't talk to others. My understanding is that the democrats proposed a solution, but it didn't hold the responsible parties responsible, and what they submitted would still let the CEOs and higher up people walk away with all their money and the American people would be left the ones who pay for the bail out. I understand the republicans said no it wasn't good enough and JM refused to back down and said the American people should not be the ones to pay for this. I've heard a lot of other people talk and they said it was not a good proposal at all.

I believe (again this is what I think and have caught from tid bits here and there) that JM wants to stay in WA until this crisis is worked out but BO wants a debate no matter what and he wanted to hurry to get where ever the debate is and he ended up telling the people "Call me if you need me" and then left.

That's my understanding on it. I've been listing to all the news stations and cannot even begin to tell you what all the people said about this because they say it so much better than I ever could. But that is my brief summary.

I was just stunned thinking this is a major major crisis and it needs to be resolved and BO doesn't want to stick around and says "Call me if you need me".

All I say is brother, what a mess we have.
I heard
They were threated with martial law if they did not vote for it.


Something that I have heard nothing about...sm

is medical care of veterans coming back from Iraq and Afganistan.  Their injuries are so severe that in prior wars they would be dead.  Now they are coming back alive but so severely injured, brain injuries, limb loss, PSD, etc.  The veterans should come first, along with their families, national guard, regular army, navy, air force and marines.  They should be getting the best care that money can buy, not only for their acute injuries, but for their rehabilitation.  It is a disgrace that they become invisible when they come home.   


Sorry, I never heard his name.
Republican radio talk show host?  Well, why does that not surprise me?
I heard about this too.
Where does it stop?
Had not heard this before....

http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/obama_harvard_/2008/09/23/133199.html


You can do a search on the names and find the video of Sutton talking about Al-Mansour raising money for Obama (long before he ran for office...money being raised to help with his education).  This Al-Mansour is quite a character.  Read up on him.  Very enlightening.


IS a man known by the company  he keeps?


 


and yet I have heard you say more than once
that you are not voting for Obama, but against McCain. Is that not hammering McCain? And who says that my REAL reasons have not already been posted? I am perfectly capable of thinking for myself and tired of being called names for not thinking like others. It is silly because it doesn't matter to anyone who has already made up his/her mind why I vote the way I vote. I don't wish to be called a racist or rabid or any other names anymore, so while I might read this because I really have nothing else to do, I think that I have had enough posting.
I think I just heard....
the founding fathers screaming and whirling in their graves. No wonder this country is in the shape its in.
From what I heard
There were two black panthers. One of them had a night stick and he was escorted away by police, but the second one lives there and is actually a polling officer or watcher and so he has a right to be there. but I don't think he should be allowed to be there dressed that way. He told a polling officer that they were tired of white supremacy and that's why they were there.


okay - what I heard -
Okay - exactly what Obama said is that "you are absolutely right, McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith", GS then says "your Christian faith" and Obama replies, "I mean that McCain has not suggested that I am Muslim".

He is saying that the McCain campaign was not bringing that out themselves because they knew it was not true and that it was just lies being spread by people.

He NEVER said he was a Muslim and it is clear to me that he is saying he is not.
Last I heard,
spelling/grammar police are against the law on this board.
Yep you heard right?

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/13/officials-obama-considering-hillary-clinton-secretary-state/


I just want to say I hope you will feel better soon and I do not want to upset you, but I will be praying for you that you get the best doctors that will fix and correct the area in your back.  You take care and get better.  Believe it or not, you will be missed.     


and where does this come from? Never heard that before now - nm
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When I heard.............sm
that when the Walmart tried to close its store but customers kept shopping and refused to leave because they had been waiting for hours for the store to open and "we aren't leaving" I about lost it.  No decency whatsoever.