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Posted By: ARMPIT. on 2008-10-15
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Yes, that's what you're doing. Predicting the future and turning a blind eye

Unfortunately, I'm not sure anyone can quickly
get us out of Iraq. What's more important to me is to have a comprehensive plan. We are in a HUGE (I cannot emphasize that enough) mess that is going to take time to get cleaned up. I'm not sure I truly believe those that say they will have us out 3 months after taking office. I do want us OUT of Iraq, more than you can imagine, but we have to handle this correctly. I am interested in hearing more of what the candidates have to say about how exactly they would do things.
How quickly we forget...(sm)

Bush has made campaign promises to: 


Lower the price of oil -- didn't happen. Reform healthcare -- didn't happen.  Improve foreign relations -- sooo didn't happen.  Education reform -- not even close.  Increase domestic oil and gas production and exploration -- another swing and a miss.  "Transition to a market economy" not dependent on federal supports. --  ROFL.  That's just a few.


You seem to think it's okay for Bush to not come through on his promises (for 2 terms in a row), but you are just dying to jump all over Obama who hasn't even been sworn in yet. 


Oh Please, how we forget so quickly.
Bush will write a book and will be able to share some of the terrorist acts that were to happen on US soil and attacks were able to be stopped before they happened. Bush could not tell about because of being in office, but now he will share. I bet it had something to do with Iraq too.

You forget so quickly. Just be glad you were not in NY area during 911, but then if you were, maybe you would remember.
How quickly we forget....(sm)

What I want to know is why can't the government start something that would charge companies who outsource production to other countries? 


The answer to that lies in Bush tax cuts to those corporations.  Watch that stimulus plan.  The pubs want to add more tax cuts for those very same companies instead of working on infrastructure which is what this stimulus is all about in the long run.


And since we're talking about the stimulus, here's what I think.  I am in favor of it.  However, Obama tried to compromise with the pubs and put in some of their tax cuts and cut out some of his programs in the hopes of getting some pub support.  I say since they obviously aren't going to support it unless it looks like another pub trickle down tax cut (as evidenced by no pub votes in the house), the dems just need to go back to the original plan (maybe adding more for infrastructure) and just push the bill past the pubs.  If they don't want to be part of the solution, then they can just sit on the side lines and whine like they always do.  Maybe some of those midnight sessions like the pubs do to get stuff passed is in order.


Ask Obama today - quickly
Want the president's ear?  Go go whitehouse.gov quickly and ask a question for the town hall meeting for today.  Only two hours left for questions.
Ditto. I hope she recovers quickly, as well. (nm)
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Followed quickly by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. nm
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Oh, and Obama had better get on Welfare reform QUICKLY before it is a run-away train, or did the tra
already leave the station. Extension of unemployment benefits, GREAT, because in this economy it takes so much more time to find a worthwhile job. Extension of COBRA is great. But the free ride that many dishonest and lazy Americans have enjoyed for generations should be put to an abrupt END. Sorry, I see it every day. Hire enough trained, educated case workers, get them out in the field investigating these fraudulant claims, and give the truly deserving and huring population the funds they need to get back on track, as they want to, and push the lazy and indigent to get productive for our country.

I also love the money going directly to the SBA (Small Business Administration), so many of us are fed up and would probably do better working with the SBA to secure low-interest, easy term loans, employ ourselves, employ others, get the taxes rolling, and be part of the solution. Okay safely off soap box for now!
I like #5. I have heard another survivor trait is the ability to quickly adapt. nm
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They are turning on each other.

 

Thank you to the person who sent me this.

tide is turning
If the republicans keep being brought up on charges, which it seems will happen, LOL, this tide will continue to turn.  If the Libby situation continues for months on end, it will also affect the republicans chances next year and hopefully (now Im just dreaming) if Cheney is shown to have played a part in the outing of a CIA agent, this will really mean positive things for democrats.  I must state, my own feeling is Cheney, of course, was part of the outing of Valerie Plame, how could he not be?  His Chief of Staff is but not him?  Oh please.
Twisting and turning

Wouldn't you say the mindset of the young depends on the conditions and need for the war?  That is what I was alluding to.  In condemning this generation with their lack of morals you are also condemning soldiers in Iraq, I assume?  My belief is that if this country ever found itself in a dire situation that our young people would respond as needed.  Call me an optimist.  I cannot condemn a whole generation based on my version of what is moral and what isn't.  I would say sending soldiers to die in an unnecessary war is immoral.  Lack of care for our country's poor and sick is immoral.  Little kids starving in our country is immoral.  Our treatment of minorities and your condemntation of all liberals is immoral.  I believe that not only is abortion immoral, but many other things, too.  You may also blindly support our military, no matter what it is sent to do.  I don't.  I'm not a fool.  I would not have supported our military slaughtering hundreds of thousands of Native Americans in the 1800s, or supporting the slavery trade indirectly.  I would have applauded and supported any soldier who went AWOL, any demonstration against this military action.  Unlike you.


But you see, I have common sense.  I cannot argue or debate with  someone who doesn't have it.  You have a blinding anger toward Democrats and liberals.  You have no use for the truth.   I am sure this is not the first time you have been told this.


The rest of your post is so twisted and lacking common sense, even to insulting a person for reading books (heavens, we wouldn't want to educate ourselves -- another fear of the conservative posters) that it isn't worth my time to answer.


Please read Lurker's post.  You will deny it's accuracy, I'm sure.


As far as Ann Coulter, someone posted that the liberals had written and said terrible things also.  Indeed they have.  But Ann's article was posted on the conservative board as a fine and shining example of conservative wit and intelligence.  In reality, it was one of the smuttiest and sickening things I have read in a long time.  I don't recall any liberal posters crowing over such liberal trash on this board.  They seem to be a pretty moral group over all, and a group that's got a lot of common sense, most of all.


Twisting and turning

You have a need to twist and turn the truth and you appear to have little common sense or ability to see the big picture as far as humanity is concerned.  This may explain why you appear to have little to do with your time other than post incessantly and lengthily on a board where you are only interested in passive-aggressive attacks under the pretense of "trying to understand." 


As far as your post where you perseverate to almost a frightening degree regarding my comment on your "rightwing rags" -- you know exactly what I'm referring to.  Just your comment alone about all the soldiers supporting the war and your questioning the poster about where they heard that some soldiers do not support this war --- that's a prime example.  A year or two ago when you'd post you'd simply cut and paste lengthy quotes from those right-wing publications I refer to. 


Don't know why I'm having to tell you this.  I'm having to play your game and that's not a good idea as your rules aren't fair, or truthful some of the time.


total BS -

you are off your nut.


 


Turning back the clock...

Funny how people like to apply today's current political issues to 25 year ago.  Are you old enough to remember our relations with Iran around 1979 and 1980?  The Ayatollah took over and during the 80s they expressed an interest in obtaining nuclear weapons.  So, we had to choose the lesser of 2 evils, Iraq.  You know, last time I checked the world has been fresh out of crystal balls for a very long time.  You like to live in a hindsight is 20/20 world. 


And Teddy Roosevelt is turning over in his sm
grave about the so-called Republicans nowdays...
This board is turning ugly
Towelhead? Oreo? half-breed??

SHAME on you.


shame on you.
Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill.  Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back?????  Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t.  Help???  I like blue so much better! 
Someone help me quick, I think I am turning Republican!!!!.......psm
Okay, lifelong Dem, coming from a family of generations of lifelong Dems, loving my country and always supporting my party......I have been watching C-Span for many, many hours over the past few days....while I believe we have to save our economy (and our people) very quickly, with prudence and accountability, the pork grease that I see dripping off this bill, despite its good points, is making me ill.  Please, will some of the Democratic leaders cut the pork, cut the BULL, get down to the necessary and proven, INSURE AND GUARANTEE accountability in every area of this bill, and put my faith back?????  Wow, this Bill is starting to stink more than my Grandfather's dairy farm on a hot summer day, and for the same reason, lots of bull $h*t.  Help???  I like blue so much better! 
Yup LOL - here I go again - Thanks for turning this commical JTBB
I kept thinking to myself, by god I'm going to have the last word. HA HA - okay, I'd done feeling I need to have the last word. Too many other things to think about.
Then what are ya gonna do about the dems turning
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Then it sounds like things are turning
Perhaps you can stop with the yelling already. It can't be good for your health to get so wound up.
Even Obama's dems are turning on him right
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Vietnam war total

Total U.S. military deaths in vietnam was 58,000. 


Perhaps your sources of information are erroneous or just not well researched.  And using common sense I believe reference was made to the course and justification of the Vietnam War, not the total casualties. 


This is total baloney.
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You have just expressed the sum total of
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I think it was a total of $265 over 4 or 5 donations -
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When all is said and done, I bet the total of ALL votes in MN will be....
more than the total of registered voters in the entire state of MN. Come on, give us a break. Do you honestly expect us to believe there are that many "missing" ballots? This has been going on since November 5. Where could those pesky 1,000 votes have been hidden all this time, blast those nasty votes.

That said, I have a question....with all this back room hocus-pocus, will the Republicans be able to filibuster? There are not 60 Dems yet are there?
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I am in total agreement about him just being him
Joe Lowery goes back very, very far- marched with MLK, pals around with Andrew Young and a very decent person. I have visited in his church years ago before his retirement. He was dead on and I enjoy his sermons, watching him with his fireside chats he has had before. He tells it like it is. I see nothing wrong with it myself, just himself. Others laughed- lighten up, why don’t you?
You are a total loon
You were better off when you weren't saying much.  Now you are saying O is the president of death?  Good God woman people are not murdering children. 
Turning 60 this year and ready to PAR-TEEE.
to know my son will have a progressive and future-oriented leader looking after his best interests. To watch in horror as my own generational cohort sold out the American dream...maybe been around a little too long. In any case, I plan to stay up 'til the race is called and ring in the new era with a champagne toast to the dawn of better days to come.
Really well-said; subsidy and help is one thing, turning your nose up at....sm
honest jobs for your family and obligations is another, I guess because I came from a farming family and you did what you had to do to survive and took great pride in doing so....is all that gone with past generations?? I fear life has been way to easy and "instant" for far too many, they do not know the meaning of the word sacrifice, which was what helped bring the country out of the Great Depression. Good post!
Disagree. Total lunatic is on the

Eric Rudolph to clinic workers.


THAT'S a total lunatic.


Your problem with gt is that she's decided to communicate in true conservative style that she must have learned on the other board.  She's trying to point out to them how they come across, which they routinely deny doing.


Not very pleasant, is it?


Total lack of compassion
I wanted to like this woman, and I did for approximately the first 48 hours after she was named as Sen. McCain's running mate. Then I heard from a close friend whose sister teaches high school Spanish in the small Alaskan town SP was mayor of. SP's son, the one who is about to be deployed overseas, was her student a few years ago and allegedly not a high-achieving one. My friend's sister said he was disrespectful and acted like he thought he was better than everyone else, and when it came time for the parent-teacher conference SP blamed his failing grades on her.

Okay, so this is one person's biased description and I didn't pay a lot of attention to it, but THEN I discovered her history regarding wildlife, ecology and "hunting," and I have to tell you this is a deal breaker for me.

What is so incredible to me is that she appears extremely caring and passionate regarding issues related to motherhood, family, child welfare and the right to life, yet she is completely void of emotion or sensitivity towards "lesser" forms of life. I don't care that she's a lifetime member of the NRA or even that she's a hunter, but she has a frightening and callous history in terms of wielding her legal power to exploit, maim and destroy wildlife and their natural habitats.

I'm so disgusted and disillusioned by all the political BS and hype coming from every direction that I can honestly say I don't plan to vote in the coming election.
40% of TOTAL US population (i.e., most of mid class)
Folks, this is the sum total of every SINGLE person (not family income) whose income is less than $57,490. Again, if this describes your economic class, ask yourself, does 40% of all work force (those persons who earn under this income figure) do less than 1% or more than 1% of the work. People, this is a question of fair pay for work performed. MTs battle cry. Is this okay with you?
That Rachel person comes across as a total
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Really, your total ignorance floors me. sm
Wow, I guess my son at 2 years old "decided" to be gay.  What idiots people are to think that someone would knowingly choose to make their own lives he11 for the sake of "sexual" choice.  Wake up -- I would only hope that if someone in your family that were gay would not be subjected to your obvious hatred and disgust for something they have no control over.  Put down those rattlesnakes you're handling and go get some real education!!
I had that happen one time too...a post turning up missing. sm
And all I did was say I felt other posters were being too harsh. That was it. So I emailed the moderators and the reply I got was that if somebody complains about a post, then all the replies associated with that post are also deleted along with the offending post.

I hope this helps shed light on your missing post.
And that 's not the total number either because it keeps rising. They just can't stay away.
I think it's hysterical.
Total climbing in favor of impeachment sm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
Total propaganda...quotes taken out of context!
This subject has already been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. It has been proven that the quotes were either totally inaccurate or taken completely out of context. Please do some research before you post this type of propaganda and/or read Obama's book, which is actually entitled "Dreams From My Father."
Total gimmick! Remember getting checks from
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I agree. thought she made a total
jerk of herself, and did she imply he did not work hard for every advance he has made in the military! These people should learn to have some civility. It apparently is the going thing now to demoralize and humiliate people. I wonder why our kids are turning into rabid packs at their schools?
Turning Obama's loss of his last living elder relative
Palin's handicapped child was being dragged out at all hours of the day and night to help gain that hockey mom family values gal political capital. No harm in pointing that out. Pregnant daughter used by the fringe camp as a convenient way to cry sexism foul and cop out on legitimate political debate on Roe vs Wade and birth control. Son and daughter are still among the living.

Obama's grandmother has been politicizd how? He credits her for instilling him with many of the values that drive him to seek office. She raised him during his moist formative years. She is DYING, for heaven's sake. Most human beings understand that grieving this kind of loss is off limits in terms of gaining political traction. This coming from the party that would shove their morality down our throats. I am so sure.
And we don't have time to spare for total economic collapse....nm
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Not dim-witted, just clinging to false hopes, turning a blind eye to truth, and in for a big disappo
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End of the year 2008 a total of 1.073 Palestinians were killed in Gaza and over 4,000 injured.
It is also a historical fact that the Palestinians were the FIRST to populate the Holy Land and that the Palestininas were driven from Palestine 1948, and again in the 1967 war Arab land went to Israel.

In the year 1993 the Palestinians concentrated in the 'Gaza Strip', this is a tiny, tiny land strip where 1.5 million Palestinians are living under horrible circumstances and in fear of Israeli attacks.

November 2008 Israel invaded Gaza and massacred Palestinians living there and the whole world condemned this act.

This is history!
McCain and his foreign policy would have pushed America into total isolation from the rest of the w
and the world would have disrespected us even more.
There are different ways to SHOW STRENGTH, it must not always be BOMBS !
It was blue long ago and turning blue now thanks to OBAMA THE HERO
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