I read your message and stand by my response. (nm)
Posted By: Facts are Facts on 2008-09-10
In Reply to: hope you read msg and not just reacted - to headlines again...nm
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I stand by my post as before - see message inside
I'm reading posts and you are all acting as though the child is living and outside the body already in school and is then taken away to be murdered.
I read another post that said "before you even know you are pregnant the heart is beating". This is totally false! Week 4 is when the brain, spinal cord, heart and other organs begin to form and continue to form. To suggest that at the instancy of sex you now have a live breathing baby whose heart is beating and brain is fully developed is absurd. - which by the way they can't speak for themselves so that is what you are all here for. Having an abortion before the baby is developed is the safest. You can call it as you like to. Most of you have a heart so cruel you like to label people as murderers. This embryo is not someone, it is an embryo. Full term abortions and killing babies outside the womb I believe is disgusting and vile. As for Laci Peterson - she was getting ready to give birth to a baby. If that baby was born it would lived. Yeah, but that's a whole different topic, but to have an abortion before the organs are fully developed and the child's brain has developed and they have no nerves so cannot feel anything is a different story.
Lastly, I would never have an abortion myself, but if by chance I did and the embryo has not had time to develop (first trimester) then you keep your nose out of my business where it does not belong. I answer to one higher being (our creator) not you!!!!!
I stand by the original poster. Keep your noses out of where they don't belong.
P.S. - I certainly am not going to listen to a bunch of hipocrites who will murder innocent animals so they can devour them at their meals. Now that is disgusting to me!!
Amanda - I stand corrected - thank you - see message
When I'm wrong I'll admit it and this time I'm wrong. That is in such bad taste.
If parents want to dress their kids in political figures that's one thing (though I think the kids would rather be ghosts, witches, princesses, etc) but to try and make a political statement and use the excuse that its Halloween and in good fun is just in bad taste (IMO). I find it equally offensive no matter who it is.
I think its bad taste and think everyone should take down everything. I find it just as disgusting as I found the remark Hillary said about staying in because an assassination could happen. When you talk about death of people that just gets to me.
So Amanda thank you, I do stand corrected and am humbled. There are McCain supporters who do the same as Obama supporters.
What happened to decency in America and leave the halloween costumes to kids and people going to parties.
You have such a better-than-you attitude, I can't stand to read your posts anymore.
And you call yoruself a Christian, PREACHING to the rest of us how we should live our lives! You are the worst kind of Christian, SO judgmental.
Please read my response below. nm
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having read your response to my
comment, I can only conclude you and a few others are rather careless where you attach your stringing comments because I have certainly not called anyone names nor been responsible for any of the inflammatory comments which a reader would assume by your post that I had made sometime in the past. I merely asked a question and it was answered. end of story.
I read your response below too - we are on the same speed
I am so so so glad I'm not the only one that sees it. He is getting a little out of hand. I do have my own ideas of why I believe he keeps putting himself out there like this but I won't voice them because I will get a lot of nasty ignor@ant responses back. I'll tell ya. I take back everything I ever thought about Bill Clinton. When he was in office I thought he was the most arrogant person alive but O'Messiah sure takes the cake. I too never listened to GW's press conferences, but I don't think he even gave as many as this guy.
I too can read. Looks like I'm going to be not watching news for the next four years if this is the way it's going to go.
By my read, not a single negative response among them.
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Didn't read your response before I wrote mine....
lol. Good post :)
Re-read your message
**At any rate, a lot of Democrats cared to.** Did you mean **too** as in **also**?
I think you read my message wrong.
Your saying what I said. Maybe I didn't say it correctly. I don't trust Obama because for that fact. Lined his pockets and now the tax payers are having to pay it back while they get to keep all the money they received and not paying any of it back. Dodd & Hillary are right on top with Obama too. This is why I don't trust the dems. McCain was saying a couple years ago not to do it but the dems didn't listen and passed whatever they passed and lined their pockets.
Dems are at top of the guilty line. I don't trust them and would never ever vote for Obama.
No, no, no. I think you read my message wrong
It was more of a statement (don't know the correct word to use - faceeshish? gosh, can't even spell it), I was making a joke of something we already knew about her. I've never trusted Condi or any of the Bush administration. I think they've been lying to everyone about everything all along and I don't think this is any different. That's why I said "and this is news how???. Without the right words to say I can't explain exactly what I was trying to say except that she is just a liar period and this is no different than any of the other lies they've told.
Thank you - read the links - see message
There were a lot of links - see why you couldn't post them all. This is what I found researching through link after link.
President Kennedy - I could not find anything anywhere showing that he used to have weekly frat parties. I do understand the necessity of holding formal dinners for dignitaries of other countries. That is a most respectful and dignified "use" of the white house. President Kennedy and First Lady Jackie, honored their roles and kept the dignity of the white house and never did anything to make the American people ashamed.
Bill Clinton - While I certainly was no fan of BC's, I also could not find anything about him turning the white house into a party palace. I saw numerous article after article about state dinners, etc. Again, a most acceptable use for the white house. He entertained dignitaries, held the usual Christmas dinners, etc, but no where could I find any articles about weekly parties (especially when the countries economy was not nearly as bad as it is today).
President Carter - nothing
President George Bush - Again nothing (much unfortunately for the Bush-bashers).
So with all the past president they utilized the white house for the purpose it was intended for. They did not "disgrace" it with weekly parties for staff members.
Then we have the O - weekly wednesday parties, conga lines, high priced entertainers, all at the expenses of the taxpayers. And when everyone in the country is losing their jobs, homes, health benefits, no hope for the future, they are partying it up back there.
Entertaining foreign diplomats and having dinners is one thing. But having weekly parties while the rest of us are saying "what in the world is going on, you told us we have to cut back, is a whole nother thing". You think George & Martha Washington, and John & Abigale Adams and the other founding fathers even thought that one day the once respectful white house would be turned into a party-house. I don't think so. It's disgraceful.
The White House has stood as a symbol of the presidency, the government and the people of the country. This is gluttony and disgrace. While GB may have not been the president, never did I feel as ashamed as I do today to know this is how they treat a national landmark that is suppose to represent us.
Read all the responses to your message - sm
and try to understand what we are saying.
There is just no justifiable reason for this luau and/or any other diversion Obama is into. Does not seem as though many people agree with you and, for the record, I am not here to argue with you, just to try to get you to see past the fog.
I hope you come back to read this message
I agree with you 100%. I too am not happy, but as I heard someone say - what are you going to do about it. What's done is done. However I find that even though the democrats won they are still so bitter they have to post horrendous bitter nasty posts about Palin and GW and us that supported the republican ticket. I'm thinking blimey! Give it a break. Your guy got in there, let it go. I'm like you. I want issues. I want to know what's going on, who is he picking for his cabinet, what is their experience, what promises is he going to keep and what promises is he breaking. I've already read that he broke one of his promises to get rid of (or re-do) the Patriot Act but now he's keeping that stronger than ever.
I come to read articles and post articles that show other points of view. I visit a lot of websites written by people in other countries and I'll tell you, there are not a whole lot of countries that are NOT in support of him (except our enemies that is). I agree with your whole post.
Nope, didn't think you'd read my message
Let me repeat....
Actually Cavuto didn't say Fox News. He said Fox.
Murdock and Fox have been in the business since 1985.
I watched the videos.
You sound arrogant and pompous - please read my message
Please keep an open mind and listen to what I have to say and try and see it how others do. I've been reading your previous posts and you sound like you are on a mission to save all the aborted babies (before being aborted). This is the way I feel...I believe in a higher power (our Creator). I feel so strongly that he is a powerful and just God. I believe that when a soul dies it goes to the other side and will live forever in a world of love and will be taken care of. I would rather know that a soul that has been aborted is now living on the other side with our creator in a life of love and compassion being taken care of by the people who have passed on before us. I would rather know they are there rather than having to spend an eternity in he!! on this earth. A baby that lives but was going to be aborted will never be loved the way a baby should be loved. For those with stories that their mother was going to abort but decided to keep you and you were born and you had the most loving family that is wonderful. But I think we all know very well that too many times it doesn't work out like that. The baby is born into a world where the mother blames it for everything bad that happens to her. I have a freind who's mother blames her for being born. She tells her if she never had her then her (the mother) life would have been so much better and she would have been able to accomplish everything she wanted to do, but society forced her into having the baby and now everything is my friends fault and my friend has never felt the kind of love most of us have when growing up. It is so so so sad to see and unfortunately it happens a lot. So as horrible as abortion may seem to some, I think its a Godsend to the unborn baby that is now in the heavens with our God. When being aborted the time length between life and death is short which is a lot better than having to live their whole lives (sometimes over 80 years) in a life of he!!
There are so many reasons that people have to have abortions and I don't think it is anyone's right to judge them for their actions.
I also believe after a person departs this earth and meets our Creator they will have to face some serious times. If you have an abortion of necessity that is one thing, but if you aborted a fetus that is developed or had been born already that is a whole other situation - again between the creator and the person.
I think its very very important that a woman is allowed to make a serious decision like this between themselves, their doctor and nobody else. No political figure or some religious figure giving their opinions of what should be done based on what they believe.
So, that is just my opinion.
I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
Another classy response. I won't say liberal response,
because I don't think you and these pile-on posters are indicative of liberals as a whole. Don't know why they let you speak for them...but that is up to them. Obviously you don't think compassion is a personality trait...obviously you feel that it can be turned on and off to suit your agenda. So be it.
I'm sorry I'm not just going to stand by
and let you or any other unhinged liberal get away with stating the most stereotypical garbage I've ever heard. You call us racist and intolerant. Honey, you could teach the class on racism and stereotyping.
Nor a leg to stand on. nm
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I cannot stand
Michelle Obama. She just comes off to me as a bitter and arrogant woman. Joe Biden are just ignorant sometimes. He is a likeable guy and I like his smile but the words that come out of his mouth....I bet the dems cringe every time they see him start to talk.
I would much rather see McCain and Palin in office. I don't agree with everything they do, but for the most part....I stand along with them on issues.
I cannot stand behind Obama and the things he stands for.
Me too and I can't stand her. n/m
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I will stand behind him, but we do not
know enough about him. Can only hope this is for the good.
Cannot stand her. She is always
picking her religion by flavor of the month. She always picks her diets by whatever is flavor of the month. She even had people on her show admit, day after O elected, that they only picked O because he is black. Now she is trying to win the red colors of the south and turn them blue. Whatever. My sister is a flight attendant who had her on her AA flight and she was such a WITCH. I heard Michelle Obama and Oprah cannot stand each other.
You are serious? I cannot stand the man. Used to
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Yes, I do know where you stand...(sm)
and I agree with you about 90% of the time. However, you are really targeting the wrong people here. Take a look up above this post. Here's what I see -- "Obama is a fool...big government...socialism..." Obama has called for unity in this country, and I wholeheartedly agree that we should be united. However, the republican leadership and right wing news media are doing nothing but striving for division, and most of the republicans on this board do nothing but echo that. They obviously can't be reasoned with. They posted I don't know how many times about how terrible the stimulus is, but when asked their opinion of what should be done we get no answer-- just some wise crack. The other day one was saying that Obama is taking rights away. When asked what rights specifically...again, no answer. And how about that racist post about the aspirin on this board or the email that a pub official sent out with a watermellon patch in front of the whitehouse? Calling people names? --- How about Kool-Aid drinkers?
If republicans want to have a conversation, I'm all for that, but so far only a few on this board are actually willing to do so. Let's work on that for a while. Go ahead...ask them what their ideas are about how to solve the economic crisis and see if you get a reasonable answer. Ask them whether or not they would support a violent revolution as suggested by Hannity's website and whether or not they think it would help the country.
This country is a mess right now and we desparately need to come together, but when you are dealing with people who would prefer to remain a divided country for the purposes of greed and affiliation, then this is the result.
A few journalists stand out
Lately we have a few reporters who are stepping up to the plate of real journalists from the past..Im impressed with David Gregory of MSNBC, Keith Olbermann of MSNBC also tells it like it is and then there is Terry Moran of ABC and, of course Helen Thomas. They are asking questions and I just love watching Bush and his press secretary squirm, LOL. Three more years of this? Can the country survive three more years?
I stand by my opinion
by the way...I fell asleep during your sermon...
I stand corrected
You are right. I did apply a double standard to a point. Everybody has a past. We've all done things we're ashamed of. My beef was with how he made it all seem like a joke, but again you are right.
I apologize...
Stand corrected
No, I'm advocating blowing a dictator away who is genocidal and dangerous and has committed war crimes for which he is on trial for now, and the evidence is overwhelming. Big difference there.
You are so right. I stand corrected.
What you said and every other bad thing in the world. Bad Bad BAD Democrats.
Bush won't send any of his kids to die for his war. Only other people's kids. BTW, LoL at margarita bimbos.
Speaking of margaritas, people convicted of felonies (such as DUI) aren't allowed to vote in the United States.
But they're allowed to be political candidates and sometimes they become President and Vice President. (Bush: Arrested for DUI and again for possession of cocaine. Cheney: Arrested twice for DUI).
The loophole is they probably weren't technically convicted. They would have been if they were everyday normal people and not privileged and rich, but how ironic is that? :-(
Ok, I stand corrected....
Thanks, however of small note (and this is only me) I don't consider the people on Good Morning America to be news people. Yes, I know they are reading the news. I used to watch it until it just seemed to be too much like The View or Regis & Kathy (okay you see how long its been since I've seen that show). I've just never heard anyone on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, or those main ones (or even our local news) tell her to get out. They were all for her to keep going. But I do stand corrected and thank you.
I stand accused of
You are so consumed with your attack politics you are completely incapable of answering any real issues on any level whatsoever. So here you are with you umpteenth millionth under the bus/lie lines...boring, ineffective, pathetic, self-serving. Biden's record speaks for itself for those who are listening. His "friendship" with McBush is not the least bit relevant to anyone except those on the Fox fringe. The only ones whose opinions really count here are which ones believe your propaganda and which ones don't and how many of them show up at the polls. Will be declining the answer the lies accusations. it's all in the perception, sweetie, and on that score, you and your ilk will lose and lose big in the whose leaders tell the biggest lies that have the worst consequences for all of us to pay contest. Since you cannot actually address any of the other well researched facts on the experience issues raised in the last post, there is nothing left to do here except leave you to stew in your own acidic attacks. I will stay loyal to my principles, my party, their policies, issues and leaders. They are our only hope this election season. Shocking as it may seem to you, democrats are proud to be democrats, liberals proud to be liberals. You have no idea just how many of us there are out here. Our voices have not been raised within your earshot (Fox News) under the "you're either with us or against us" mentality of your last great fearless leader. But we raise them now, loud and clear. We shall see in a few short weeks just which one of us in on the "right side of history" this time...that is, unless, of course, the republicans manage to steal yet one more election. NOT. Not this time. Don't bother with a response. Try to find something more intelligent to do with your time.
I stand corrected
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Thank you for letting me know where you stand....
that barack's campaign is more important than the financial crisis we are facing. Tell me...what would you have said if Barack had suspended is campaign first and put his country first? Would you still be criticizing the decision? I am doubting it! lol.
You need to stand up and adjust....
and get your knickers out of that knot.
I can't stand Pelosi
but don't ya recall who's been in the White House for the past 8 years, well make that 20 of the last 28 years. Obviously the Republican trickle down wealth hasn't worked so well. And don't give me the Democrats for the past 2 years. Obviously they haven't done anything either but for the previous 6 years, as I seem to recall Republicans had total control of the government and look where we are?
Okay, I can't stand it anymore....
the answer is......Hitler. His directive 51 was pretty much the same thing.
Yes that's me - and I still stand by my statement.
I just agreed that the site has been changed; however, if you compare the 2 sites they are virtually word for word until you have to add the part about the college credit (which I posted 4 links below that show that that has been part of the "requirement" all along and not a new idea). That is why I say that it was a mistake on somebody's part that was doing the typing.
I am telling you, when I am wrong, I am admitting I am wrong, and I will continue to admit I am wrong.
If Obama does something that is wrong, then in the next election, I will most definitely not support him again. I am, however, giving him the benefit of the doubt until he is actually in office and doing the job of the POTUS, and not condemning him on typos, rumors, innuendos, outright lies, hypothetical situations, fear and hatred...
I base my decisions on that person's actions, not the public's opinion.
Right and we don't have a union to stand up for us either. n/m
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I never could stand Kissinger
I would expect he WOULD think Hillary was a good pick. I most certainly DO NOT. Yes..I am VERY angry. I just don't know who to be the angriest at, the politicians who have sold us down the river or "we the people" who let them do it.
I stand behind our military too but
I sure as heck am not going to stand behind a president who sends our young men and women in harms way for his own personal gain and that of his oil cronies. What happened to bin Laden? Don't tell me that our military men and women couldn't take him out. And how about McCain saying he knew how to get him. How anyone who can support this administration and this war is beyond me. Isn't it "Mission Iraqi Freedom" now? What about 9/11? Who has paid for that? And today Iraq has given us "permission" to stay for 3 more years? Permission??? We have no business meddling in their business to begin with. Wasn't Bushes and Sadam friends before they became enemies???
Stand whereever you like........ sm
"His old colored picture" to me referred to the fact that the coins are painted in colors, nothing more and nothing less. Maybe I'm just not the racist that you are who sees racism in every comment.
So the M obviously does not stand for mature.
Try to show a little class, why don't you?
And then STAND IN LINE for your
You sound awful happy about old Barry. Another welfare millionare in the making, methinks.
what does MSLSD stand for?...nm
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And I stand by my post as well.......don't like it, go
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I stand by what I said....... they have no "rights"
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And I stand by that quote.
If we sin and don't repent, we will die. End of story. Sin is the wrong choice. Some of the choices we have in our daily life are wrong. Some of us just don't realize it. I'm not cold. I've lost loved ones too. I think we all have. Some people love to put words in other's mouths or they just have a hard time comprehending the message. I see you are one of those. You have no idea what I've experienced.
Your words-- "Yes we are all going to die but that doesn't make it okay for someone else to move the date up because they don't like what we do." Or possibly don't like who we are-- as in fetuses.
Yes, I stand corrected
They just mentioned it on the news, but I didn't hear the justification for it. It seems counterintuitive to me to tax the shrinking number of employers who are providing insurance. I would think they would be providing tax credits if the goal is to get every American insured.
I knew there was a reason I can't stand him.
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