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Nope, didn't think you'd read my message

Posted By: me on 2009-04-17
In Reply to: Conservative Spin Fail - x2

Let me repeat....

Actually Cavuto didn't say Fox News. He said Fox.

Murdock and Fox have been in the business since 1985.

I watched the videos.


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Nope...see message
The facts are coming out from prominent democrats investigating this. Lawyers, judges, investigators. Michael Savage said to one of the investigators "if you were a republican I would not even have you on the show, and say you're just blowing smoke, but you're a democrat". There are plenty of people who want to know the truth. You've got Baracks own grandmother coming out and saying she was in the room in Kenya when he was born. Because she is so proud of him.

People have to pull their heads out of the sand. This election needs to be haulted, the investigation completed, and if he is not legally qualified to run for the office pick another candidate and then we can move on and we would have a little more faith in the system.

How can anyone consider the election legitimate if your own candidate is not.
Nope, didn't say it was wrong for them to do it...
just saying that it seems a little ironic that the very ones who were screaming about Bush being such a terrible pres. and calling him Hitler are now the ones saying it's unpatriotic to speak out against the pres, that's all.
Nope, didn't say it was wrong for them to do it...
just saying that it seems a little ironic that the very ones who were screaming about Bush being such a terrible pres. and calling him Hitler are now the ones saying it's unpatriotic to speak out against the pres, that's all.
Didn't you see my message below?
I said it was getting down to the wire and didn't realize how fast the time is coming up. Seems like its a long way away.

I do still diagree with you. Everything I'm seeing and reading does show that McCain is catching up. If you support McCain that's hopeful (yes we can hope and one never knows), and if you support Obama you'll deny it, but I'm reading a ton of websites (I don't listen to the polls because there are a ton of them and they all differ so much), so I read news website on the computer and I watch CNN, MSNBC & Fox.

I still sit here with my ballot not filled out because I don't know who I want. It may just come down to me not even voting this year. Still undecided even though I am leaning towards McCain. I figure it this way. Whoever gets in if the country goes to pot I will not be blamed for voting for them. HA HA HA
Why didn' you post a message?
I'm not sure why you wrote Henry Kissinger but then didn't write anything. If Obama can come up with when Henry Kissinger said that to him I will take back my original post. All I'm saying is Kissinger was interviewed and he said he never said it. You should take him at his word. If Obama says something I believe him. Maybe Obama really believed Kissinger said this.

Obama says he cares about the people. He cares that people needs jobs, decent healthcare, and not to lose their homes. He said he is going to work towards getting this fixed. I believe him.
Re-read your message
**At any rate, a lot of Democrats cared to.** Did you mean **too** as in **also**?
I didn't post the original message
just love how people don't post facts, whether McCain or Obama supporter.
Palin, so much to hate! I didn't see the message sm
you refer to but I will look for it. She is a caricature of a person.

I think you read my message wrong.
Your saying what I said. Maybe I didn't say it correctly. I don't trust Obama because for that fact. Lined his pockets and now the tax payers are having to pay it back while they get to keep all the money they received and not paying any of it back. Dodd & Hillary are right on top with Obama too. This is why I don't trust the dems. McCain was saying a couple years ago not to do it but the dems didn't listen and passed whatever they passed and lined their pockets.

Dems are at top of the guilty line. I don't trust them and would never ever vote for Obama.
No, no, no. I think you read my message wrong
It was more of a statement (don't know the correct word to use - faceeshish? gosh, can't even spell it), I was making a joke of something we already knew about her. I've never trusted Condi or any of the Bush administration. I think they've been lying to everyone about everything all along and I don't think this is any different. That's why I said "and this is news how???. Without the right words to say I can't explain exactly what I was trying to say except that she is just a liar period and this is no different than any of the other lies they've told.
Thank you - read the links - see message
There were a lot of links - see why you couldn't post them all. This is what I found researching through link after link.

President Kennedy - I could not find anything anywhere showing that he used to have weekly frat parties. I do understand the necessity of holding formal dinners for dignitaries of other countries. That is a most respectful and dignified "use" of the white house. President Kennedy and First Lady Jackie, honored their roles and kept the dignity of the white house and never did anything to make the American people ashamed.

Bill Clinton - While I certainly was no fan of BC's, I also could not find anything about him turning the white house into a party palace. I saw numerous article after article about state dinners, etc. Again, a most acceptable use for the white house. He entertained dignitaries, held the usual Christmas dinners, etc, but no where could I find any articles about weekly parties (especially when the countries economy was not nearly as bad as it is today).

President Carter - nothing

President George Bush - Again nothing (much unfortunately for the Bush-bashers).

So with all the past president they utilized the white house for the purpose it was intended for. They did not "disgrace" it with weekly parties for staff members.

Then we have the O - weekly wednesday parties, conga lines, high priced entertainers, all at the expenses of the taxpayers. And when everyone in the country is losing their jobs, homes, health benefits, no hope for the future, they are partying it up back there.

Entertaining foreign diplomats and having dinners is one thing. But having weekly parties while the rest of us are saying "what in the world is going on, you told us we have to cut back, is a whole nother thing". You think George & Martha Washington, and John & Abigale Adams and the other founding fathers even thought that one day the once respectful white house would be turned into a party-house. I don't think so. It's disgraceful.

The White House has stood as a symbol of the presidency, the government and the people of the country. This is gluttony and disgrace. While GB may have not been the president, never did I feel as ashamed as I do today to know this is how they treat a national landmark that is suppose to represent us.
Read all the responses to your message - sm

and try to understand what we are saying.


There is just no justifiable reason for this luau and/or any other diversion Obama is into. Does not seem as though many people agree with you and, for the record, I am not here to argue with you, just to try to get you to see past the fog.


I read your message and stand by my response. (nm)
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I hope you come back to read this message
I agree with you 100%. I too am not happy, but as I heard someone say - what are you going to do about it. What's done is done. However I find that even though the democrats won they are still so bitter they have to post horrendous bitter nasty posts about Palin and GW and us that supported the republican ticket. I'm thinking blimey! Give it a break. Your guy got in there, let it go. I'm like you. I want issues. I want to know what's going on, who is he picking for his cabinet, what is their experience, what promises is he going to keep and what promises is he breaking. I've already read that he broke one of his promises to get rid of (or re-do) the Patriot Act but now he's keeping that stronger than ever.

I come to read articles and post articles that show other points of view. I visit a lot of websites written by people in other countries and I'll tell you, there are not a whole lot of countries that are NOT in support of him (except our enemies that is). I agree with your whole post.
You sound arrogant and pompous - please read my message
Please keep an open mind and listen to what I have to say and try and see it how others do. I've been reading your previous posts and you sound like you are on a mission to save all the aborted babies (before being aborted). This is the way I feel...I believe in a higher power (our Creator). I feel so strongly that he is a powerful and just God. I believe that when a soul dies it goes to the other side and will live forever in a world of love and will be taken care of. I would rather know that a soul that has been aborted is now living on the other side with our creator in a life of love and compassion being taken care of by the people who have passed on before us. I would rather know they are there rather than having to spend an eternity in he!! on this earth. A baby that lives but was going to be aborted will never be loved the way a baby should be loved. For those with stories that their mother was going to abort but decided to keep you and you were born and you had the most loving family that is wonderful. But I think we all know very well that too many times it doesn't work out like that. The baby is born into a world where the mother blames it for everything bad that happens to her. I have a freind who's mother blames her for being born. She tells her if she never had her then her (the mother) life would have been so much better and she would have been able to accomplish everything she wanted to do, but society forced her into having the baby and now everything is my friends fault and my friend has never felt the kind of love most of us have when growing up. It is so so so sad to see and unfortunately it happens a lot. So as horrible as abortion may seem to some, I think its a Godsend to the unborn baby that is now in the heavens with our God. When being aborted the time length between life and death is short which is a lot better than having to live their whole lives (sometimes over 80 years) in a life of he!!

There are so many reasons that people have to have abortions and I don't think it is anyone's right to judge them for their actions.

I also believe after a person departs this earth and meets our Creator they will have to face some serious times. If you have an abortion of necessity that is one thing, but if you aborted a fetus that is developed or had been born already that is a whole other situation - again between the creator and the person.

I think its very very important that a woman is allowed to make a serious decision like this between themselves, their doctor and nobody else. No political figure or some religious figure giving their opinions of what should be done based on what they believe.

So, that is just my opinion.
Well, clearly you didn't read...sm
About how the blog came about, so you've missed the point. (Why am I not surprised?)

It's a blog. It's not meant to be unbiased, any more than a blog called something like "welovelovelovesarahpalin!" would be unbiased. BTW, I'm sure there's a blog like that out there somewhere, which you are free to post the url for - for her fans. (You're probably feverishly searching for it right now, come to think of it. Just ask sam, she probably has a dozen right at her fingertips. LOL) And if you do post something like that, I will not feel the need to say "That's biased!" if it's a blog.

Either side, it's women expressing their opinion, and I think that's a good thing, to get involved.


I didn't say I wasn't going to read it, gt. sm
Try and get some rest, honey. Obviously you are just not thinking clearly right now.  Come back when you are thinking right.  Buh-bye
Perhaps you didn't READ my post
I said -- keep it the hell out of politics.
You're welcome to claim whomever you'd like as your Saviour in the privacy of your own home and the community of your own church.
You didn't read my post
I was referring to people I talk to, as I stated.   I don't generally talk to Churchill or Chomsky.  In fact, I don't even pay much attention to them, nor should you.  Just as I don't pay much if any attention to crazy right-wingers.  Just common sense.
Didn't you read this part?

"The French system is also not inexpensive. At $3,500 per capita it is one of the most costly in Europe, yet that is still far less than the $6,100 per person in the United States."


Their system costs less per capita than our system.  You bring up a good point about the doctors making less money, but should our doctors' main objective be getting rich or providing excellent care to patients?  I'm sure many doctors would be happy to be able to help patients without having to beg insurance companies to cover the only cholesterol medications to help someone with severe CAD or not having to write letters pleading with insurance to cover a much-needed MRI or surgery.  I transcribe letters like this all the time.  Doctors are constantly taking time out of their day (and money out of their pockets) to jump through insurance companies' hoops.  They are also often frustrated by patients with no insurance who refuse to pay for a potentially life-saving echocardiogram or colonoscopy.  They might be happy with lower paychecks if they knew they could just go to work and help patients without having to stress about whether or not their patients can afford the medical help they need.  I know some doctors are probably in it mostly for the money, but that is not the kind of doctor I want to go to!


However, I want to find out more about how France transitioned into their current program, as I imagine here it would be quite difficult to make so many changes.  I believe we can do it eventually though, and anything this important is worth the effort.  I do think we can learn a lot from their system though, because they have not done away with private health insurance and choices, and I think that system would be much easier for Americans to swallow.


Didn't I just read your this line in another
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you didn't read it did you. I'm a conservative
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There ya go - just another example you didn't actually read the article
If you read the article you would know the article talked about where Obama stands on issues.

Plain and simple truth. But guess that is kind of hard for some to understand.


Actually, you didn't read the post then
Didn't say she was a liar. There is a difference with calling someone a liar and saying you don't believe them.

She over did it with the drama. Sure maybe she donated to charities on her own, but all the drama about contributing to the greater care, organizing for charity, painted and nailing carpeting in "poverty stricken homes" as her "gift to her children" oh yes, all while she didn't have a pot to you know what in, all while making only 5.30 an hour. And on top of all that she moved in with her parents to take care of her dying father while herself working full-time as a supervisor several states away (wow what a commute each day that must have been). On and on an on an on. Could it have happened? Sure anything could happen. Do I believe it personally? Not in my lifetime. But that's not saying it didn't happen. Just sounds like she should be awarded the model citizen of the century award.

BTW - there is a clear difference between saying you don't believe someone and them attacking you personally.

So I'd boo-hoo on yourself.
I didn't bash anyone...and I read them all
I think that you are unfairly bashing the poor man. Diagree with his politics--fine--that's what the board is for, but what is with the personal attacks. If you don't like the words he uses, that's okay, but why make a big deal out of it. If he talks over your head, I am sure that he didn't mean to. I don't find what he writes hard to understand. I simply disagree with tons of people attacking him on a personal level--or you for that matter. I did not attack anyone personally, nor would I. I did READ all the posts and did give my comment. I stand by it.
You obviously didn't really read her post...what's happened
You used to be a pretty straightforward poster even though we were often at odds.  Now you seem nasty.
I read that entire article and I still didn't see where it said sm

U.S. military was protecting the Hezbollah supporters. Am I really missing it?


Obviously you didn't read the whole article. Figures....sm
That's why I usually use non-Fox links, so the demmies will "try" to read with open mind....lol....or maybe not.....whatever.....ciao
Guess you didn't read this part . . .
From Wall Street Journal and other sites:

"At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal," Mr. Burton said in an email to reporters. "At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."

McCain released statement minutes after responding to Obama.
Evidently you didn't read the package.

Most of the money will not go to the people. So far, I have not come across anything that deals with foreclosures, etc. The item I posted last night from our local newspaper is the so-called stimulus package that will help foreclosures.


Read the doggone bill that they are trying to pass, please. Then you may see the light of day.


Boy Wonder didn't READ the bill, let alone write it!
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Evidently you didn't read the post....
no one said a black person wouldn't vote for anyone but Obama (HELLO.....Steele, etc., etc.).
Apparently you didn't read closely enough..........sm
My point was that by replacing the food stamp program with the commodity program, which does not allow for "luxury" foods like rib-eye, etc., perhaps more people would be willing to get off the welfare wagon and go back to work.

Where in the heck did you come up with you idea?
I didn't bother to read your post....
I couldn't get past your heading "staying on the subject" .... the only "subject" is you..... Obama's "subject". You probably don't get that either! LOL
It's really too bad you didn't take the time to read the entire transcript
of what William Bennett said, Democrat.  But I am not surprised.
Wow! I read the results, but didn't know the nay sayers were repugs...sm
I mean repubs. Interesting.
Didn't read your response before I wrote mine....
lol. Good post :)
I guess we didn't know it was a joke...if you go back and read (sm)
you said you have a very strong opinion and you keep it to yourself...which sounded like you were saying that is what we should all be doing too. But the point in response to you was that the board is for political opinions to be expressed and if it bothers anyone, they don't have to come on here. I am sorry you got your feelings hurt though. I am sure it was just a communication problem.
You didn't read the AP news story on Ogden?
I posted it below in a post yesterday.
you must be referring to the previous admin. - GW didn't like to read much......
he did miss that memo about an impending attack on our country using our own private airlines..........Boy wonder? Must be referring to his super hero underwear.
You evidently didn't read my post - it was not a question
of if you think he's done harm. He has, it's a fact and no matter how much you want to cover it up you can't. You think bowing to our enemy, telling other countries we are selfish, and that we don't want our jobs so they can have them, tripling our deficit (nothing Bush had to do with -sorry can't pull that crap anymore), lining the pockets of his rich friends and CEOs, filling his cabinet with unqualified crooks and thieves, and the list goes on and on and on. And that's just the first 90 days. So the question was how many more years will it take to undo the harm. You can keep drinking the kool-aid thinking socialistm/communism is fine. It is not. Even the other countries keep telling him - "Don't go there, it is not a path you want to take", while other country leaders who are telling him not to go there are saying "why aren't you listening to us. We've been there and done that and it doesn't work".

Hence, how many more years will it take to undo the harm he has already done (and its only been less than 90 days). My guess is at least 2. It's going to be hard once he's out of office, but I do have faith the country will bounce back as long as we have some decent politicians in the office and take congress out from the control of the crats.
It's obvious you didn't read a DARN thing.....
First of all, real history is not taught in college either.... unless you are soooo lucky as to get a professor who actually LOVES history and really DID his/her homework.

My son is a history/political major and LOVES history... and I can assure you, he would put history teachers to shame in what they "think" they know.... the crap the government puts in their history books is all they are ALLOWED to teach in our public "government ran" schools!

Our history IS politics....where have you been? Teaching our kids politics IS teaching them history.... WOW! Glad my son is teaching them and not you!

This guy has been teaching for 19 years with NO complaints about his informative web site.... the parents have ALWAYS like it!

Only ONE person complained......ONE!!! No doubt a liberal jackarse who has NO loyalty or love for this country whatsoever.... another lost soul.

This guy had an introductory video where he says he truly wanted his kids to LOVE America.........what the heck is wrong with that?

He was told to remove that video because everyone "did not love America"..... huh? Then I suppose they can sit on their sorry sad butts and hate everything....who cares? This guy did nothing wrong but encourage students to love their country but of course, you WOULD have something wrong with that! Geesh!
Then you didn't read the article on the conservative board. nuff said.

backwards, you didn't read the post, just the headline PAY ATTENTION
loser
Guess you didn't read the post I made from a few days ago.

Sorry, but I haven't been able to post lately due to some problems, but the FOIA report I posted and said to pay attention to certain pages....Clinton KNEW there were WMD's in Irag in 1996! Did he do anything? Nope. He left the country he was visiting right before a bombing; i.e., he knew it was going to happen. The jist I got of the report was that he knew and did nothing.


Did you read that report?  Don't want to dredge up old presidents but you seem to do it every chance you get, so I just have to respond to that. Bush also knew but did nothing because the CIA,DOJ, FBI and whatever other departments were to keep him informed but never worked together on anything so he got conflicting reports all the time. Was he a mind reader? Doubt it or 911 would not have happened.


Sorry, but this post does not hold water IMHO.


This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.

I didn't miss any part and didn't say...
anything either way. I just posted a link.
I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.

So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
I'm not - NOPE.
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