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I rest my case. Obviously this person does not understand that in America we are allowed to have our

Posted By: thanks for proving my point on 2005-08-04
In Reply to: Not at all. Just trying to set the record straight. sm - MT

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    I rest my case!
    Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

    We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

    i rest my case
    no need for further discussion, you proved my point!


    There ya go, I rest my case nm
    thanks!
    Boy-oh-boy. I rest my case.

    I rest my case.

    The big three networks (who have always been in the bag for Obama) chose to pretty much ignore the whole thing. Mainstream commentators that mentioned it chose to characterize it a gathering of a few loose screws who were mad at the president - not sure why - something about his race?  Local stations that covered it picked out a few hostile-looking signs to focus on, amoung throngs of thousands. 


    I would have thought that a quarter-million folks protesting would be a nationally newsworthy event, but apparently not.  Depends where you tune your dial, I guess.  For those who think there is no liberal bias in media, how come nobody but Fox viewers and conservative radio listeners had any clue what was going on? 


    If that were the case, the person who won the election...sm
    would probably only do so by a very small minority of the people. That is why there are primaries. Until other parties besides the democrats and republican vote in enough numbers for other candidates, I think that we are stuck with a two party system.
    McCain and his foreign policy would have pushed America into total isolation from the rest of the w
    and the world would have disrespected us even more.
    There are different ways to SHOW STRENGTH, it must not always be BOMBS !
    yes, the first person did....the person replying to that post...
    was talking about the founding fathers...who came along a long time after the witch trials. You replied to the second post, not the first one. I was replying to you based on that. Purtianism came first...Christianity was the religion practiced by the founding fathers. It is evident in their writings and in most of our original documents.

    I think we can stop whipping this dead horse now.
    I no more understand it than I understand the extremely poor taste and blasphemous sm
    post with pictures on the other board.  Are we clear now?
    It is not too much to ask to be allowed
    on the politics board. The moderators have some in from time to time to remind us of the lay of the forums. Religion has its very own forum. Please use it when appropriate and respect the rest of us who simply want you to GIVE IT A REST.
    Exactly, how else were millions allowed to die...sm
    And genocide is not something of the past. Darfur is the here and now, but we are not effected economically (i.e., oil), so we go on our merry little way.
    I have to agree also....he should not be allowed (sm)
    to make a dime and Fox should not facilitate him. No one should. It would be nice if no one bought the book and no one watched....but we all know they will and they will. All I can really speak for is myself...I certainly won't be buying or watching.
    And that's your opinion. We are all allowed to have one.
    nm
    So it shouldn't be allowed
    because everyone might suddenly become gay and there would be no offspring? How about artificial insemination? This is a new one on me!
    New VP candidate allowed to appear

    for 30 seconds - no talking - for news cameras with world leaders.  Now, let's hear you say she doesn't have any foreign experience -- here look at this picture.


     


    If we are not allowed to express

    political viewpoints.....what is the point of a political board? 


    I have know idea to what post you are referring to that you posted and was removed.  You would have to take that up with the moderator. 


    I am proud that RW is being allowed to
    been convicted and knows in HIS heart to be right without fear. I hope there has been no compromise or deal in the background made and I do not believe RW is of this character. I am afraid that you are right, the people who elected Obama will not be listening to what RW will have to say because they do not know who he will be talking to. I know this is just something for you and a lot of others to just laugh off, but one of the saddest days of this election was the day the Billy Graham Ministry resigned as as pastor/counselor to the the president since serving in that capacity since Eisenhower. They resigned just a few days after Nov 4.
    Excuse me? So it's only allowed to say bad things
    The first person stated republicans are strange. The first person could hardly know every republican in the USA and her statement was inflammatory. The second person returned the observation, and you say "typical," as though you know who posted it and what is typical behavior of that person? Tsk. You disappoint me, oldtimer. Here I thought perhaps you'd be a voice of reason. First you say stop petty attacks and then you stoop to flinging yourself. Talk about lack of credibility. You're either with them or against them. Did you decide if you can't beat 'em, join 'em?
    Citizens are allowed to vote

    with any motivation they wish - FOR someone, AGAINST someone, because they had soup for lunch, etc.  Supreme Court (hey there's a case someone can discuss) upheld same-day registration and voting.  Since they know the constitution and the law, I will trust their judgment.


    The election system is OBVIOUSLY sound, because when Ohioans suggested that the Bush reelection count was rigged, they were denounced as conspiracy theorists.  One cannot have it both ways.


     


    Whoops....A person....not I person.
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    A Christian is not allowed to comment on Israel? nm
    Have we made new rules?  I didn't know that!  When did that happen!  By the way, sm is exactly right.   Ariel Sharon has made a mistake that will doom Israel.  This is a man who wept on television with fury when saying he would never give up an inch of land and then handed the Gaza strip away. If you have been following this story for some time, decades, as I have, then you know what a tragedy this is.  One does not have to be Jewish to understand it. In fact, if you understand the Biblical significance, you get the picture.  And, of course, Sharon was wrong, as Hamas now wants Jerusalem.  
    They already ARE allowed to stay silent. That's the irony of this.
    It's just one crazy loon who wants to foist HIS version of the world on the rest of us, which is no better than ramming religion down a person's throat.  What about those who wish to say the pledge, now they can't.  It was better the way it was... Say it if you want, don't say it if you don't want to.  That way everybody has the freedom to choose.
    And I want to know why the bin Ladens were allowed to leave the country...sm
    The day after the attacks???
    The trick is, truffle....you are allowed unlimited...
    posts, along as you support the party line. But if you deviate...katy bar the door! They are so tolerant, these dems. They believe in individual freedoms...and shame if the government infringes on them!! But if THEY want to infringe on them...then that is AAAAA-OKKKK. The Audacity of Deception and Hypocrisy...lol.
    I never said citizens weren't allowed to vote.

    I just do not think that same day register and voting should be allowed.  That is my personal opinion and I have the right to have that opinion regardless on how a court ruled on the subject.


    Spelling police not allowed on this board.
    .
    Not allowed. Pubs haven't learned
    LOL
    I agree, isn't he even allowed to make some jokes.
    because is the President-Elect?
    Duh?
    Guess he wasn't allowed to use the DOD planes
    unlike some others... =)
    I wonder if he'll be allowed to take the famous brush!!

    Homosexuality was never allowed in ancient times
    and it did not become a sin because the christians said it is a sin. It's written in the Bible and this I believe, because it is 'detestable', it is so written in the Bible:

    ' Below are some Bible verses that condemn homosexuality:

    Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
    Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.....'
    It wasn't legal, it was unlawfully allowed; thus, the
    --
    yes, seoparated is still married, no flings allowed...nm
    nm
    Because so far I'm still allowed to express my honest opinion. He hasn't taken that away from us
    yet.

    Those are his words, and what is scary is that I think he believes it. It's bad enough we've got enemies who believe they're in a religious war. With each passing day, I'm starting to think HE believes he's in one, too. If that's the case, we're in more trouble than anyone could have thought.

    My post was about HIM, not about you. But it isn't the first time a Bush groupie has PERSONALLY attacked a poster for expressing their opinion about BUSH. Now, how do you think that makes YOU look? Maybe it's YOU who should grow up or at least WAKE up and see what he's doing, not just to us but to the entire WORLD.

    As long as we all still have freedom of expression, I'll continue to express my views, whether you like them or not.

    And I hope you keep posting. Nobody can prove my point for me like a Bush groupie, and I do appreciate the help!!


    As long as the posting is not personal, they are allowed to post here. sm
    If you have a problem with that, that is your problem. I have been watching these boards closely.  I have seen some posts come pretty close to personal insults, but as long as they don't, and the Administrator's rules, which were posted earlier, are not broken, cross-posting is allowed. 
    I thought lewd pornographic content is not allowed here...nm

    So your in favor of a creep who tazered a child to be allowed
    She put a stop to this creep being able to abuse his position as a cop who tazered a 10-year old child and put fear into a family with death threats.

    She had the proper and legal authority to fire him. She should have also fired the person who didn't fire him.

    If you think its okay to let thugs run around the streets in cop uniforms yielding badges and guns tazering children and threatening death to people your a real piece of work.
    I guess we are allowed to call names so YOU ARE a FOOL nm
    NM
    Cindy Sheehan not allowed to watch SOU address, was arrested.
    Curiously, CNN reported that Cindy had UNFURLED A BANNER INSIDE THE CHAMBER WHICH IS AGAINST THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS RULES.

    Half an hour later we learn that no such thing happened. Cindy simply wore a T-shirt with an antiwar message on it and was promptly hauled off to jail.

    In Bushworld, you can not only be arrested and hauled off to jail for wearing a controversial T-shirt, but the major media will also make up ridiculous lies about you and broadcast them world-wide. That's some performance for a liberal press. But oh ho ho, we were all being so paranoid four years ago to claim that the press was a willing servant of deliberate Rovian disinformation spinmeisters. Once again, we are right on the mark and the Repubs? - blind and wrong and misdirected as usual - let us count the many things about which the progressive thinking people of this nation have been absolutely correct, and the Bush supporters oh so regrettably wrong. Wow, it would take pages and pages!

    Can't tell them anything though - they can't admit it when they are wrong. The way things are going, they're going to deny us right into the communist USSR of 1965 - the state our teachers used to scare us about in 1965 - and we would think, oh, how awful to live in a place where the government controls all the media, where protestors are thrown in jail, where you have to be worried about speaking above a whisper if you criticize the government, because your own neighbor will turn you in! Oh those poor people, having their mail opened and never being able to see any real news, only what the govt. wants them to see!

    But of course that was back in the days when dissent was patriotic, when Americans didn't spy on each other, when the govt. could not throw you in jail without a trial, when even Presidents had to resign if they wiretapped you without a warrant. You know, the OLD America, when nobody was above the law and citizens were shocked when the lies and deceit and self-serving greed of elected officials was exposed, instead of sniggering and giggling behind their hands about how bold their guys are, and ain't it grand they're still in charge.

    Gee, I really miss it - was good while it lasted, and something to tell the grandkids about.



    Debate is allowed on the political forums. Be respectful in your posts. If you

    cannot post in kind, DON'T POST. 


    Exactly who are the rest of you???
    xx
    Uh, the rest of us are those... sm
    Who believe in facts, logic, science, reason, etc. above fairy tales and magical thinking/wishing. You know, like an adult? I should think that would be obvious.

    And you assume that because I don't believe in your religion that I have "nothing to believe in." No. I just don't believe what you believe. Why? Well, mainly, lack of evidence. Oh, and the fact that I wasn't indoctrinated/brainwashed as a child to unquestionably believe something for which there is no proof.

    While you may continue to love and pray for me, I can continue to love and wish the best for you. Praying/wishing, I don't see a big difference.
    What do you mean by the rest of us?
    What you got here is socialism in black and white and for the life of me, I do not understand why anyone would think all this would come your way free and clear. This is coming your way, complements of Obama, to the tune of around 3.5 trillion dollars.

    And on top of that, he is talking giving checks to people who don't work. Aren't we already doing that?
    Try to keep up with the rest of us
    http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/v/11/52098.html

    Sheesh...
    Rest assured, we won't. SM
    Do you have recess time on this board?
    The rest of the numbers. TI

    This is reality in Israel: From 29 September 2000 through 11 January 2003:
    5,041 injured, 717 killed, 15,992 attacks

    IDF Spokesperson 12 January 2003

    Injured: 3,585 Civilians + 1,456 Security Forces = 5,041 Total Israeli Injured

    Killed: 503 Civilians + 214 Security Forces = 717 Total Israeli Killed

    Total Attacks*: 7,139 West Bank + 8,203 Gaza Strip + 650 Home Front =15,992 Total

    * Does not include attacks with rocks or fire bombs.

    This is a death toll greater (in proportion) than America suffered on 9/11 and the American people would never tolerate this! So why should Israel have to endure this year after year while the world does nothing? The same people that hate Israel are the same people that hate America!


    What you do DOES silence the rest of us.
    nm
    give it a rest ....nm
    .
    Give it a rest, already.
    You're like a dang gnat that needs a swat.  Unless you know what was going on behind the scenes in both parties, knock it off.  Like Biden was the so-called "new politician's" first choice?  He was supposedly the safest choice.
    Not when the rest of the country = 61%
    mm
    Here's the rest of the story.
    1. No soup for researching the breakdown on appropriations and who came down for and against as they progressed through time. That "congress did" cop-out does not cover for the fact that between 2002 and 2007, Dems were outnumbered by war zealots with glazed-over eyes as they followed a leader of liars and prevailed on the money issues. Answer: The pubs dominated and ARE credited for building up a $400B debt, no matter how fast you spin it.
    2. Thank you. Obama voted against. Vision, conviction and courage to place principle over politics. Biden voted for, but has since stated he believes it was a mistake because of the W administration mismanagement of the war. Go here for Biden on the issue of Iraq: Does not appear to be part of the fleeced flock anymore. http://www.ontheissues.org/Joe_Biden.htm.
    3. Obama. Ahead of the curve. Petraeus is not running for president.
    4. Petraeus is a military man with a military agenda and a reputation to protect, just like McCain. Trouble is, public is war weary and are looking for nonmilitary solutions…or at least somebody who is willing to consider such notions. There has to be a plan for what lies beyond the surge, which is not an everlasting solution. Question is whose plan? Bush and McCain NOW get it that Obama gots it and are going with his flow. According to you, Petraeus is onboard too. By the way, the Iraqi leadership just might be entitled to weigh in on this one. After all, it IS their country. They backed Obama on international television this past summer, lest we forget.
    5. Well then, according to you, Petraeus is onboard troop draw-down. No highjack here, but a bit slow on the draw.
    6. There has been no political resolution. Iraqis have not taken control of their own nation. Exactly what do you think will happen after troop withdrawal? The Sunni, Shia and Kurds will throw farewell flowers at the troops and each other in gratitude for all the help and Iraq will become the "oasis of democracy" in the Middle East? All the surge has done is prolong the inevitable. We need to step aside NO MATTER WHAT the consequences and hand the Iraqis the keys to the kingdom and let them sort themselves out.