I started reading this board 2 weeks
Posted By: Kimmie on 2008-11-11
In Reply to: Bitter, bitter dems - Backwards typist
before the election. Just wanted you to know I highly respect your comments, issues, and concerns you have posted on this board than almost anyone else. You are highly respected and I am sure by others also.
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Thanks for the links. I started reading through them. sm
I started with the first link and only got partially through Palin's. Hope to go back later to finish it and read the other candidates too.
One of the things I read it said where her husband worked for BP. They had said that he would quit if she were elected gov. but after she was they backed out of that and stated that since he was not management it wouldn't matter or wouldn't be a conflict. But wouldn't it be? He works for an oil company, she is for the drilling of oil, etc. To me that is still a big conflict.
Also, why is one thing saying he quit and another thing saying he still works there part-time. This link from above was a direct quote from them I believe.
Anyway, again, thanks for the links. Hope to read up some more tonight.
I started reading this in the pdf mode
was keeping the same old/same old and substituting 2009 for 2008. As an aside, I have to wonder how much money businesses (small and large) would save if they completely stopped offering health insurance to employees. Health insurance should be its own entity and not associated with the "benefits" an employee would receive. And how much more money would be saved if we did away with the for-profit greedy insurance companies altogether? IMHO, healthcare needs to be its own entity and not associated with employers or health insurance companies.
I think I said that a few weeks ago about the Repub board.
Deja vu.
Wow, that was long. I'm not reading it. You don't own the board. sm
You stepped into a conversation with another liberal and myself, where we were logically discussing calling a truce, with your hate-filled screed and oneupsmanship and brought this all on yourself and you just won't admit it. Have a nice day. 
Ummm... are you reading the same board
On reading this board, gt has made generalizations about everything. But
well called on it, i.e., all republicans are liars, she backtracks. Can't waste my time with people like that. 
Non-stop hate rhetoric for weeks and weeks on end
Red camp has been making character the issue by their own choice. They copped out on the national crisis and decided to go with the culture war. Well, now they have it and I am sure that GP is not the only one who is feeling a bit surly at this point. What is the O camp (and I am not assuming that GP is going that way since she has not said so) supposed to do? Did you think that they would simply quietly sit back and take lash after lash after lash and wait for the tribal warriors to suddenly develop a conscience and call a cease fire?
Are you reading the same thing I am reading? sm
Did you read Mein Kampf? Would that be good enough evidence for you, because he wrote about it in there. Good grief, you people won't admit when you are wrong and frankly, that is pretty darned frightening!
I said this weeks ago........
Dan Tacredo came on TV many times letting us know that in his state alone thousands of loans have been given to illegals. In order to do this, real estate companies had to doctor documents so banks perceived these folks as legitimate borrowers. They lied about so much it is sickening. Now, he is demanding an investigation into those corrupt real estate companies who falsified the documents and the banks who gave the loans. No one forced these guys to loan to illegals. They did it out of greed and I hope to heck they pay dearly. But then, it all got real quiet about the illegals and all their garbage they're unloaded on us. You heard a little blurb about how thousands of homes have just been left/abandoned overnight by these illegals cause they "lost their jobs"....jobs I might add they should not have had in the first place, let alone an illegal mortage to boot.
Where is all the hooplah about that? And yes, you add the free medical care, free education, and even scholarships awared to illegals, taking spots from legal citizens, and all the food stamps, free housing, etc., they get and you better believe everyone who thinks it was no big deal...lets all feel sorry for the poor illegal, I hope they're happy, now that they're going to be footing the bill for their sorry butts for the rest of their lives!!!
Well, looking at what O has done in just 3 weeks....
I think maybe even YOU would have been better. LOL.
In the last couple of weeks,
I've received several envelopes in the mail that were sealed with a few inches torn open at the top of the envelope. One of them was a check from my part-time employer, and it was easy to see through the envelope that it was a check folded in half. (At least they didn't remove the contents like they did with you.)
I've never experienced anything like this in my life, and I wonder if this has been happening to any other liberals out there. 
He said that he would veto it weeks ago.
It was a waste of time. Congress should have done better at being creative in making some changes. He told them he wouldn't pass it. Little putz. Anyhow, I am not crazy about the increased cigarette tax. Not that I smoke, just don't agree with the method. I think Congress better figure out pretty quick that they need to reduce spending or trim the fat off somewhere else before they will get funds for SCHIP. They are just being stubborn (that's ALL of them).
You know, they should have told us this two weeks ago....sm
but I suppose it took that long for it to make sense to Bush (yes, and I did vote for him, bash away).
But someone, anyone....should have explained this before.
And I agree. They need to give us the entire details once they know them, so we know what's really going on, not just innuendo and fear tactics....from both sides, really.
They are going to need to explain more about the return on investment part of it in another article I read here the other day. If they play it right, there should be no raised taxes, and this will help the economy tremendously.
Two weeks of unemployment once.
That's it.
The rest of my life as a single mom was spent working two (sometimes three) jobs at a time in order to support us.
Now, it's getting really difficult for me because I couldn't afford my health insurance any more, my car was repossessed, and even my phone was turned off because I can't work like I used to since becoming ill almost three years ago with pancreatitis (which was finally found to be caused by cystic fibrosis). So my pancreas is a wreck, and my lung function is getting progressively worse. I've filed a claim for Social Security disability, but I very well may have passed on by the time I receive a hearing date, since I'm getting sicker, and my disease is incurable.
Only 2 weeks in office and already
By what criteria? What he may or may not do? The stimulus package is only in the debate stage at this point, so no one can say what it will end up looking like. Before passing judgement and handing out indictments, suppose you at least wait until the verbs move from the subjunctive into the indicative moods and while you are at it, don't forget to factor in by way of comparison 8 years of lies, corruption, enrichment of corporate America and the wealthy on the backs of the middle class, scorched earth foreign policy, circumvention of the Constitution at every turn and that teeny-tiny thing we call torture
Well, I did quit for a whole 3 weeks
one time. After that, I went downhill the next couple times I tried.Made it a whole 5 hours.
I posted a few weeks ago about
an article I read at this link: http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Bailout-Needed-is-by-Steven-Leser-081227-715.html
and there is a follow-up where some of the responses to the first article are addressed by the author at this link: http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Real-Bailout-Needed-is-by-Steven-Leser-090104-322.html
Personally, I am not for giving anyone a free ride, but least of all the lenders that are largely responsible for the housing/financial crisis we are all faced with. I pay my mortgage and other bills on time, but with the economy the way it is, I fear that I may not be able to continue doing this (my husband is one of the many whose companies are now requesting employees take one day off per week without pay, and I have been less than fully employed for too long now, mainly due to some family issues that arose a while back, but now with the job market not so hot). Anyway, with the idea proposed in the above linked articles, it would help many, many Americans who are having a hard time, as well as those who made s t u p i d/greedy mistakes, etc., and at the same time the banks/creditors would be getting their money in the form of consumers paying their debts with bailout money (opt in or out), but paying it back, at least partially. IMO, it is a much better plan than what is currently being debated, but with the prospect of much of the money being paid back (by the taxpayers who accept bailout money as well as taxes paid by banks/creditors on the money they receive), allowing for many of the things that the government is proposing to still be done.
Where have you been the last 2-3 weeks, out of town??? sm
Janet Naplitano and the FBI and another alphabet soup group sent out a document to the president on what groups they considered "domestic terrorists." The list included returning war vets, people who oppose abortion, people who oppose gay or other similar ideas, etc. Basically it was anyone who did not agree with what the "Anointed One" and his party line. She also included the TEA party people.
Google DHS Domestic Terrorism memo.
Hey Kaydie...12 days is less than 2 to 3 weeks!
A mind is a terrible thing to waste!
They are not neck and neck, McCain is not catching up, and the election is in 12 days!
This statement was put out 2 weeks before Obama
was put in as president. I have read down through this article and this is so slanted against Obama just makes you wonder why anyone would read much less believe things like this. I saw the interview with Donna Brazile. She was excited about the blanket that everyone got on the stage where Obama swore in- he left the blanket and she said she reached over and got it. It looked to be made out of fleece, not a big blanket and so what is the big deal? She was excited and maybe she used the wrong words but, so ?? I thought Joe Lowery's words were not offensive, he included all colors- did you read the entire statement? I know this Reich person was in the Clinton administration but have no idea if in Obama's.
It's gong to take more than a few weeks to undo
I am fully expecting the economy to tank in the meantime. I'm so thankful that during Clinton years I was able to buy my humble little condo with cash ($26,000) and only have to comeup with $144 each month to keep my roof. Otherwise, I'd be up the creek without a paddle now that my job bit the dust and am on that hostile market like so many others. Still trying to figure out how I can find one if we lose our electricity and can't pay the cable bill for the high-sped internet now that my husband's work just COMPLETELY DRIED UP a couple of weeks ago. He runs his own small auto transport business moving totalled cars for insurance companies. He was doing really well until the auto industry went into suspended animation last December. It just seems that all of a sudden people are not even driving anymore, not even having accidents....no claims being processed, no cars being moved around. It's getting pretty scary, so now I am coming off my high horse and after 30 years of transcribing medical reports, I have decided to bust mysef back to IC status, cave in on my benefits "demand" (even though I am 60 years old and need the coverage badly), accept a 20% cut in line rate since 6 years ago and take the first thing I can get my hands on. Hope at least I can find a company that doesn't try to make me wait a month or 2 for my first paycheck that has been shaved by 15% or 20% of the reported line count for the pay period.
Can we give him more than 4 weeks to do all that? (And your points are well-taken :0)......nm
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Doubt it; I've seen that for a few weeks now....
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Didn't take him BUT a few weeks to put this country
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I heard that a couple weeks ago, but don't know where and
another thing, which I find absolutely ridiculous - they are blaming the the pubs for all these investigations even though there were 250 nonprofit organizations unearthed that listed ACORN's New Orleans address.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/28/lawmaker-pushes-investigation-acorn-finances/
I didn't even know he existed 'til a few weeks ago,
mentioned him. Still know little to nothing about him, and wouldn't recognize him if he were standing 3 feet away from me. Not that that's a bad thing, or anything, but I would take that to mean that his message isn't being heard, and as a result, it would seem rather fruitless to waste a vote on him. The other 2 candidates are going to be running full-tilt, right down to the wire, and EACH of them is going to need every vote they can get in order to win without another Florida-esque hanging-chad fiasco like before.
Really? My Canadian friends have to wait 6 weeks for a CT.
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As far as a I know she should have registered 3 weeks ago. online or by mail...nm
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Hey, don't lose heart....look what he has done in 3 short weeks with...
the power you folks gave him. He has a LONG time left to do his O magic. When we are all lining up for the checks (well, that is if you lose your job and don't have to pay taxes as those are the folks who are going to get the biggest handout), just remember who put the great benefactor in Washington there and gave him carte blanche. Uh...that would be you. :)
In the two weeks after Biden's announcement, the same thing happened...
Biden and Obama were on the trail and Biden always spoke first. You just didn't see that as much because of the love affair the mainstream media has with Obama. They only showed his part of the speech. Same thing is happening, being handled differently by the media, probably to portray exactly the impression that you are getting from it.
Moved hubby's 6 weeks ago. Mine only last week. (nm)
I've been hearing this one lyric for a couple weeks now....sm
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's a real, real bad scratch/skip in the record (if anyone still remembers those), and I hope someone fixes it soon....still hiding for the next four years if need be......
Wow, and you can ascertain all that from 4 weeks in office? Amazingly rapid political analysis!.....
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Yep, pretty dumb to claim you have foreign policy experience from 3 weeks in Pakistan!!!...
Obama started off saying he was confident in his FOREIGN POLICY experience ("Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain"). He then proceeded to talk about his visit to Pakistan.
SO WHAT? I visited and lived in several foreign countries, too. Does that mean I understand foreign policy better than someone who may have spent less time but has had actual interaction and policy discussions with those countries' leaders? And with the leaders of 80 countries?
If 3 weeks in Pakistan is the extent of Obama's foreign policy credentials, then I am way more qualified on the "foreign policy" front.
My point is that Obama's claim is ridiculous. Better that he stick to his "better judgement" mantra, since the "3 weeks abroad = foreign policy experience" is just pathetically weak.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obamas-college.html
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,
some respect?
You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*
Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.
You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.
That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS. Your posts don't show respect. They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.
You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?
Please. Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.
You're becoming quite a bore. You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight. You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board. Maybe that should work both ways.
Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all. You believe in SUPERIORITY. Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else. Sheesh! You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.
You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred.
In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate. I've seen them. (I hope you don't chase them away, too.) But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.
Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.
Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board
Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate. Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.
I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc. After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come. Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.
I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates. What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board. Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin. You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.
Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin. The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby. Talk about just bizarre comments. I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet? The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre. Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations. I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.
I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam. Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics. I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the” This childish rhetoric is getting old. I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics. If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.
I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming. She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good. Let people express his or her opinion and move on. If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement) 
I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right. If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.
I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates. That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason. I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.
If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face.
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.
To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.
Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.
This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.
The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
This all started because you said
*founded on Christian principles*....now I see you've moderated it to *God* Yes, they were *Deists* not Christians as you said in your first post...big difference....not that you will even admit there is a difference.
First of all, GP started this particular
thread, so she is not responding to anybody's attacks in this case. Second, I think it is very mean to attack someone's religious beliefs. Third, GP indicated that George Bush said that God told him to be president. If I remember correctly, George Bush said that God told him to RUN for president. So he did. SP did not say that God doing the right thing would put McCain in the White House, nor did she imply it. She said that she has faith that God will do the right thing and that his will for the country will be done. Imagine, two Christian practicing their faith and treating God as if he actually exists.
Guess what? God told me to call my sister last weekend. Am I delusional too? Or is it only delusional to think God speaks and leads if you are national figure?
That is not how it started...
This has been going on for quite a while on the Politics forum. The rabid right-wing Christians have been forcing their beliefs on all of us for months and months and months. They have quoted scripture and told us that anyone who does not believe as they do is destined to burn in eternal fire. They have no respect for people of other religions. I was born into a Jewish family, and I have never felt animosity towards any Christian until recently. These posters have forever changed my opinion of Christianity and not for the better!
For nm-So have I. Plus 2 others started lately.
Does that give you a hint?
Don't get that started here......... sm
That is rude and totally uncalled for.
Looks like you started it
When you tried to accuse W of having a double digit and O of triple.
The fact of the matter is you don't know what GW's score is or O's for that matter. I've been on several sites pro and con for both sides. I've read that people were trying to pass a lie that GWs was 99 (looks like you want to believe the lie too). However there are many sites that say he scored around 129. They also said that some people want to believe O's is higher, but according to his SAT/LSAT is ranges in the 115-120. However, it also says that he won't release his SAT score. Imagine that....Obama not releasing information? Say it ain't so Joe.
The fact is before you start accusing someone of a low or high IQ score maybe you should research a little more. We get it, by your posts you don't like GW. Don't know many who do (including myself), but I don't lie to make one look bad.
Don't even get me started.
Double standards, contradicting, arrogance, etc. How much money does that jet cost for promotional tours? I thought stimulus passed.
You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
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No, it started with a real
when they couldn't find anything, they dug up the sex scandal. Clinton was investigated for 7 years; can you name a high-level Clinton administartion official indicted? I know Clinton can't practice law; he was also impeached...what's your point?
So if WWWIII is to be started to
we're just supposed to sit down and shut up? Excuse me, but I was raised Catholic and I do not support this at ALL. Bush does NOT have a direct line to God Almighty.
No, not at all...it started on the far left rag...
the dailykos. That is where it broke. And then the rest of the far left picked it up and ran with it.
I was the first to congratulate Obama on his renouncing of the behavior. But even with him saying that, his supporters continue the salvos at Palin's family. Big time Dem pundits on TV still taking shots at her. Blogs still taking shots at her. Posters on this board still taking shots at her. Now you take people who are not committed yet, they see this happening, and you are left with only two conclusions...either Barack was very serious and meant what he said (which I believe) and his followers and pundits and the media are still going to attack regardless; or that he just made that statement to take the political high road while all the time in the background he is saying "sic her." It has to be one of the two...but either way, if his supporters and big Dem pundits continue the attack it reflects badly on his candidacy. I realize that he cannot control what people do...but one would think they would heed what he says (they claim to believe everything he says) and just lay off...but, to each his own.
Let's just get some more rumors started.
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you are wishing him out before he has even started?
I understand being cautious, but can't you give the guy a chance? I gave Bush a chance even though I didn't vote for him. I'm not happy with how it turned out, but I wasn't wishing him out of office before he even started.
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