I thought it was, but I guess that's why we are on opposite sides of the SM
Posted By: MT on 2005-08-23
In Reply to: Not a good analogy, at all. sm - Democrat
political sphere. Like I said, different points of view. Definitely!
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I thought she did a fine job, And I guess...
the mainstream media just can't help that looking down your nose condescencion when they talk to her. Couric certainly couldn't. And enough with the gotcha questions already. Do you honestly think Joe Biden could answer that question either..."say Joe, give me specific examples of how Barack Obama has done anything about regulating mortgage companies?" Oh, well of course how silly of me, that's easy. There are NONE. And Katie Couric dismissing what McCain did in 2005-2006...like it meant nothing. And I am supposed to find her credible?
Sarah Palin does not need to know how many times Mccain was for or against regulation. What does that have to do with being Vice President? When will that ever come into play?
Palin's answers were good, they were correct, and she is not going to play the gotcha game. I think that puts her above the mud and the mainstream media wallowing in it.
The media in the tank for Obama during the primaries treated Hillary almost as bad....and for the life of me, I cannot understand people who encourage this behavior in the press and even engage it in themselves, and have the supreme arrogance to call it journalism or fact finding...instead of owning up to what it is...looking for Palin's head on a platter and why let a little thing like the truth get in their way?
Yep, I agree...it was pathetic!!
I thought the woman had COPD, but I guess this sm
is part of their act, or whatever you want to call it. I think they are in the Camp Jesus movie. I found the link after someone forwarded some articles to me from Dave Hunt. The Christians who follow the Written word consider them heretics.
Gee, thought this was the lberal board. Guess not!!
This is a truly offensive comment: liberals...they really could care less about the soldiers. You appear ignorant of any true knowledge of liberal beliefs.
You state that it is impossible for Muslims to ever live next to a Christian in harmony. Your ignorance is astounding. Too astounding to even address as you have obviously never traveled to any major city in the U.S. or in many, many cities of the world. Hey, we couldn't even keep peace in New Orleans after there was a breakdown of police control.
60 Minutes unbiased? Did I claim anywhere that it was? Of course it has a bias. Duh. Thought I was posting on the liberal board.
Please, take your trash talk over to your other trash-talking conservatives. Please!!!
I guess I was misinformed. I thought most liberals were antigun.sm
I do not like guns myself, but protecting the right to have one and protect ourselves I do believe in.
Both sides should have a choice, on both sides, pregnant woman and doctor...nm
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And I'm just the opposite....
McCain picking Palin has just reassured me that I picked the right man. LOL!
As for the abortion....we all have to agree to disagree because if we spent all our time discussing murder versus choice......we would get nothing else done. LOL!
Oh, just the opposite!
I am happy she can think for herself. That is of course except for when she is under the spell of O.
I see the opposite
When the democrats don't want to face the truth they attack the republicans. Call them nasty names, tell them their delusional. They create a "race" election when the republicans are well past that. When they try and bring up about Obama being born in Kenya they are attacked something awful. They bring up valid issues and get labeled "ugly racist" and just horrible attacks on them. If McCain wins the democrats sure are going to have a hard time handling it.
Just the opposite (nm)
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Whatever he does...they want the opposite
Notice not too many Obama supporters even come here anymore? There is so much bile and sour grapes here, it is useless to try to reason with most of these people.
Most Obama supporters have left the board and now the Pubs and Obama bashers have no one left to fight with but each other.
So boring...
You have it the opposite, Francie
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Nope. Quite the opposite.
I am independent, but have seen just the opposite
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Quite opposite, Palin already does that with FOX but sm
Obama has even been subjected to evil Oreilly and has been interviewed by various people but no PALIN, she ran with her tail between her legs to Hannity, Hannity and more Hannity and a little Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the truth.
LOL - if they married someone of opposite sex
They woundn't be gay then. HA HA HA
I have had one and have an opposite view
I had one when I was around 18 which now is almost 50 years ago and do not dwell on it now nor did I in the past. My body, did what I had to do because years ago you did not bring home a baby and be unwed, never. If you were pregnant, most of the time people sent to what they called unwed mother homes to have the baby and then the baby be adopted out. I had no regrets then and I don’t now.
That's odd Crabbroad because I see it as opposite ..
Opposite to what you say. I see the Obama naysayers as being very negative. This is my first time looking at the board. Was advised by one of my emps and I'm sorry everyone is not behind our new president.
Quite the opposite. I am glad
I feel sorry for our country.
I feel the opposite way
I always say looks mean nothing. There are some not so nice looking on the outside but are gems and are wonderful people on the inside. Then there are those who are amazingly beautiful on the outside but downright "dark" on the inside.
There are pictures of Michelle that show she is stunning, and then I've seen pictures that all I can say is I would not want to cross her path. But don't we all have those pictures. I sure do (that's why I cut them all up. HA HA) But I feel the opposite. I don't think Obama is so much more handsome. He's okay looking, but there are photos of him, that the look on his face just really makes the hair on my neck stand up and...well, lets just not go there.
It's like you say...how a person looks is in the eye of the beholder. It's what they do on the inside that makes them a good person or not. And we certainly will not even go down that path.
I'm the opposite....Extremely doubtful....
...Obama will win with Biden. Bayh would have been a better choice. Ah well.....
Capitalist? No way! Obama is just the opposite
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Wouldn't the opposite of CONgress (sm)
be PROgress? That thing that they just can't make any of?
You're kidding! I see it just the opposite. nm
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I see it the opposite. You and JTBB, MSNBC,etc
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As usual, quite the opposite is true.
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Feel just the opposite. O scares the crap out of me.nm
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Pay attention. Said the exact opposite of what BT implies.
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I am hearing the exact opposite about unemployment
I think what you have posted is absolute rubbish, scare tactics once again. I am hearing not just on the local news but national news about the work situation picking up. I think most repubs are literally cringing inside seeing just what a good job Obama is doing. I just heard from my husband yesterday his job has posting on the board his company is buying 2 additional companies which means more employees, heard about a company in the state building new plant that will hire about 600 people. Like I said, rubbish.
You have it opposite! It's HUMAN rights at stake... gosh! duh
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This is unbelieveable and ridiculous - your comparing two totally opposite things
You cannot compare the two. You evidently approve of the bible studies and that is fine. There is nothing wrong with a bible study if you keep it under a certain number.
These people are assembling more than 15 people in which case they need to get a license according to the law. There are certain rules why (fire codes, etc). This is being done on a regular basis. Therefore it becomes a business.
The playground for the kids have a license and is zoned for such.
The "folks at the airport for their plane. Lawbreakers?" Are you for real? That is what the airport is for. It is zoned for that and they pay their fees to whatever state, and they abide by the laws.
It's not what they are doing in their home. It's that they are assembling a large congegration of people on a regular basis in a home that is not zoned for the business.
You cannot compare this with a playground, airport, or a tupperware party (which occurs on an infrequent basis here and there).
Having a social event like scrapbooking, tupperware party, having some friends over to watch a sports game is a whole different issue (unless they have it on a weekly basis with open bar and more than 15 people - in which case they need to get a license and follow the law). It's not that we hate what they are doing. That has nothing to do with it. The law is specific and they are breaking the law.
Here's a question for you...if I lived next door to you and I belonged to a Wiccan group would you mind me having 20 or so people over every week so that we could have our ceremonies to celebrate our wiccan holidays and rituals. Would you mind that 20 or so people were in the backyard next to yours completing our ritual of praying to the moon goddess (or whatever gods/goddesses for the ritual) at night. Sometimes we build a fire and dance in circles and chant our prayers. Would you mind that. Some groups even complete their ceremonies in the nude. Would you be fine with that?
It's very simple. The law states that if you have over a certain number of people that hold regular meetings/functions you need to have a business license and follow the law. It doesn't matter what they are doing. They need to follow the law.
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
Exactly....and that happens on both sides...
in all seriousness...without the jibes...I have two big issues with the Dem candidates, that being the abortion issue and the endless tax and spend for social programs. I am not against social programs, I am just against the waste associated with it and the constant assault on the paycheck. The average in the US is 30-35% of your paycheck off the top in taxes. Can't we all agree that is enough? Why create more programs or throw more money at programs that aren't working? Why not look at the programs and cut the waste. Look to helping people better themselves instead of pushing assistance higher up the income ladder. Because it is we in the middle class who suffer the most. Pretty soon there will not be any middle class at all, because they will then be the working poor on the assistance that goes higher up the ladder.
There is such a thing as a conservative Democrat...who believes in fiscal responsibility.
And I will be the first one to say that the Bush Adminstration has strayed way away from that...fiscal responsibility. While I agree with him on some things...I sure don't agree with him on that.
I fear Hillary's national health plan because I know Canada's is not working the way it should...and it is horribly expensive to the taxpayer. Up there, their median is 50-55% of their taxes off the top, and the #1 place for that money to go is the universal health care. And even if you have the money to pay for an operation, you can't jump the waiting list. Hence, they come here for it.
I would just hope that whoever wins will look at the long-reaching ramifications before just jumping in. Be that Hillary or a Republican....because I do think Hillary will get the nomination. I can't see it go any other way...unless something drastic happens between now and the primary. Of course, we won't see all the ugliness (on both sides) until a little later. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.
What do you have against 2 sides
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Yes, they can be - on BOTH sides.
Someone makes a wise crack about it being nice to have someone with a triple digit IQ - when in FACT they don't know what Bush's IQ is OR the possible that Barack has a higher OR lower IQ score. The problem is the people who post don't know. They have just an outright hatred and loathing for the republicans. Well how would they feel if I went and said Obama has an IQ of 68 or something so absurd. They wouldn't. You know what, having a high IQ doesn't mean squat. I know a lot of people with degrees and high IQs and they are more of imbs than people without degrees. Just another put down for Bush they they think is cute and funny. It's not! We get it already. They don't like Bush, they hate him, and some of them like my MIL will come right out and say what they want to happen to Bush (i.e. the same thing Hillary said would happen to BO and that is why she is staying in).
I'm really getting tired of the utter hatred and disdain for Bush, and the constant Bush bashing I see on this board. Calling him stoopid, etc, etc. when there are no facts to back it up (unless they are sitting with his school transcipts on their desk). You know I like Obama. I think he's an okay guy. I don't care for Bush. Never have, but this utter hatred and lies get to be a bit too much. Then of course they find websites to try to "validate" what they are saying, yet they won't post websites that go against what they are saying. I'm just sick of the whole thing. The next 4 years should be interesting. Not going to say O is going to fail, but I'm also not putting him up on a pedistal and praising him while I dance around in circles chanting his name like most on this board are doing. Then again if he does fail I expect no comments from the libs on that one. For him it will be okay.
Uh...that isn't what I said. I said it happens all the time and both sides do it.
Are you sure you read MY post? Just wondering because it didn't sound like it from your response. Man, you guys are trigger happy!
Is good, but not see here. Sad for all both sides.
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Could it be possible there are 2 sides to the story? sm
The US, UK, and Israel also have a long and colorful history of 'creating incidents' to further their own agendas. I would say control of the Middle East is something at the top of the list. Hezbollah is wrong to send rockets into Israel. In fact, they are all wrong, but what do you expect them to do just wait there and be incinerated by Israel?
I'm sure both sides are represented.
There are soldiers for the war and those against. It's all there if you look hard enough. Absolutely....both sides are well represented.
Both sides say things like that
Obviously, living up someone's rear-end is not something that is to be taken literally - that is why I called it a joke - maybe not the best terminology.
My problem is when people say things about certain groups of people and they mean it literally - hence the reason that I specifically mentioned Anne Coulter's discussion and did not add anyone else mentioned in the OP's message.
This kind of crass talk happens on both sides of the fence. Do you have anyone in your family that is a registered Democrat? Do you lump them in with your comments about liberals? (also in comments on the conservative board) I have close family members that are registered Republicans. That is why I do not make sweeping remarks about all Republicans or conservatives. I'm trying to be very specific in my comments because everyone is obviously different.
Racism is on both sides......not just one
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Both sides of this issue.....sm
The emotional part of me, that loves wildlife, absolutely and completely hates this practice. The governor before Gov. Palin did this, as well.
Intellectually, however, my husband and I talked about this last night. I have to realize that things are different in the state of Alaska, and we down here in the lower 48 can't judge them for this, as we don't understand all the facts. Sam posted them down below. It's a different mindset, when it comes to predator control versus the herd availability for the people of Alaska who are subsistence hunters, and need that caribou to make it through the winter.
I would much rather to let nature take its course, and let the predator and prey take each other out, the way nature intended it. However, throw humans in the mix, and it does change things.
All that taken into account, I still don't have to like it. But I can respect Alaska's decision to do this, even if I disagree.
Yep. there are two sides to every story....
you just have to choose the side that fits your view for your country. Godspeed in your search. :)
On ALL sides--does not necessarily mean sm
this fiasco is partisan--only that the current administration (GOP) allowed all entities to run amok. It's the financial world versus the common man, now vice versa. As one pundit said tonight, The public shouldn't have to pick up the broken chairs when they weren't invited to the party.
Hey, the hate has come from both sides.
It's so extreme now.
There are SMs from both sides of the fence
Take the above posts, for example:
Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal
If you read anything on here, read this.
This should disturb every honorable citizen
Your stereotypes are inaccurate and pretty boring.
I can see both sides of the argument
Yes, many people are getting threatened and businesses getting picketed for supporting Prop 8. You cannot deny that (what was the pink taliban or whatever that disrupted church service a month or so ago?)
But on the other hand, if they want these donations anonymous, than that means Obama and other politicians can make their donations anonymous, and I think it's the publics right to know who is financing the next leaders of the country.
I just find it interesting that the homosexuals are assaulting and threatening supporters of the Prop 8 for what they believe in when they themselves are asking for fair treatment for what they believe in.
I am patriotic. I look at both sides.
It's certain people that refuse to look at the PRESENT ISSUES, not the PAST. I am all for O doing the right things, but right now, it looks like business as usual with the exception of his cabinet picks and this stimulus package.
Sticking to the issues is one thing. Calling some unpatriotic just because they don't agree with you is another.
nasty on all sides
Can't we just state our opinions without calling each other "idiots" and "children?" Does that really enhance the argument? Ever?
There is ignorance on both sides here.
As a Christian, I would appreciate it if people would leave this type of subject out of our children's education. It is not unreasonable to ask since we have given up God and prayer in the schools to accommodate those who do not believe.
There are some people who will ridicule the act as well as the person as you can clearly see when we get on the subject of homosexuality. But you cannot group all of us into this category. I do not agree with that lifestyle but having no reason to treat them poorly. That is what I want to teach my children. We may not agree but we cannot be mean to them.
However, I cannot stand by and allow the teaching that homosexuality is okay. It is too controversial of a topic for that to be taught in schools.....just like religion. I can teach my children acceptance of people without teaching acceptance of a lifestyle we don't agree with and I would appreciate it if schools wouldn't undermine my authority on that subject.
You don't see me going around forcing religion on children who I know has parents who don't believe in God and don't want their kids hearing about God.
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