I wish I could type 1000 wpm.

I would have stated who and what they are debating. Kerry was furious. Sen. Sessions (R-AL) doesn't seem to want to work with anyone on "the other side" either.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nevada) had a really good speech. He went through the whys and why nots of how this whole mess started. He is willing to work with the other side but he stated that the other side has to work with them, too, which so far, is not happening. He stated that the stimulus package was pushed through the house without any debate, without anyone seeing exactly what was in it, and it was the wrong thing to do. He doesn't care that O wants this passed by President's day. It has to be worked out slowly so they don't make the same kind of mistakes that they did with the last stimulus package.

It's not just tax cuts the pubs want. They want some of the spending in there, too, just not the most ridiculous items. They want the infrastructure in but not just 3% of the total package spread out over 4 years. It wouldn't make much of a difference.

Now, on another subject, I had MSNBC on another TV. Surprisingly, they were only allowing sound for the debate when the democrats are speaking.  Hmmm.

• Did ya all know they are still fighting? - Backwards typist
  • Let's face it, with the fighting going on on this board, if we cannot come to agreements here.... - Cyndiee
  • Just Remember - Truthseeker
    • Another Thing to Remember - Truthseeker
      • THANK YOU!!!.. nm - Just the big bad
    • This spending is just a drop - sm
      • We Can't Afford Not To - Truthseeker
      • Ummmm......(sm) - Just the big bad
      • So businesses can use foreign labor for their products and services? nm - sm
        • They may not be using - sm
          • I think those things will be looked at... - sm
    • EXCELLENT! Thank you for pointing that fact out. nm - sm
  • Here's what I don't get....(sm) - Just the big bad
    • Tax Cuts - sbMT
      • What part of pumping money into the economy - are you not getting? sm
    • I wish I could type 1000 wpm. - Backwards typist
    • Who do you think hires employees? It AINT the - poor, honey. At least be realistic! nm
      • Oh, I get it. Kinda like the bailed out banks - that extend credit? Wow.
      • Again, you're counting on (sm) - Just the big bad
    • What I don't understand.......... - sm
      • Try again....(sm) - Just the big bad
        • I believe we will go into a depression - sm
          • Huh? White males making less than AA males? - In which galaxy?
          • If this were the case...(sm) - Just the big bad
          • Could you please site a case and/or source - for your claim? nm
          • i agree. of course, the white male would be called a racist too for not wanting a minority to succed - nm
            • In which United States do minorities - get more pay than white males?
              • GEORGIA!!! - sbMT
                • then tell me why - - Amanda
                  • forgot - I live in GEORGIA! - Amanda
                • Nice try. Question was "get more pay?" - Unemployment rates fo GA are (sm)
                  • Except for your numbers don't account for everything - sbMT
                    • I'm sorry for your bad luck, but... - anon
                      • Yep I am such a racist - sbMT
                        • I see your point, but... - anon
        • I couldn't have said it more succinctly myself! nm - sm
  • Probably fighting because.... - sm

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That's fine you don't care about the fact that many families are working their fingers to the bone just to pay for necessities, including health insurance, but I do.  I care very much and am very sad that so many people in this country only seem to care about children that come from upper middle class and rich families.  I guess they deserve better health care than the middle-class kids.  I don't know how people that feel that way can go to bed with a clear conscience.

People in Congress that we took the time to elect put a lot of effort into negotiating this bill to make both parties relatively happy.  YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TAXED FOR IT.  THE CIGARETTE TAX WOULD HAVE GONE UP.  Keep telling yourself what you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, but the fact is kids with diabetes from a lower-middle-class income family have less of a chance of surviving than a child from an upper class income family.  That is a sad, sad, fact.

NEW YORK To mark what it called the 1000 Days of the Iraq war, the London daily The Independent offered extensive coverage today, featuring a by-the-numbers approach.

Here are some of their calculations:

$204.4 billion: The cost to the U.S of the war so far.

2,339: Allied troops killed

15,955: US troops wounded in action

98: U.K troops killed

30,000 : Estimated Iraqi civilian deaths

0: Number of WMDs found

66: Journalists killed in Iraq.

63: Journalists killed during Vietnam war

8: per cent of Iraqi children suffering acute malnutrition

53,470: Iraqi insurgents killed

67: per cent Iraqis who feel less secure because of occupation

$343: Average monthly salary for an Iraqi soldier. Average monthly salary for an American soldier in Iraq: $4,160.75

5: foreign civilians kidnapped per month

47: per cent Iraqis who never have enough electricity

20: casualties per month from unexploded mines

25-40: per cent Estimated unemployment rate, Nov 2005

251: Foreigners kidnapped

70: per cent of Iraqi's whose sewage system rarely works

183,000: British and American troops are still in action in Iraq.

13,000: from other nations

90: Daily attacks by insurgents in Nov '05. In Jun '03: 8

60-80: per cent Iraqis who are strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops

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In an accompanying piece from Baghdad, the newspaper's Patrick Cockburn adds one more stat: A BBC poll yesterday showed that half of the Iraqis questioned say that Iraq needs a strong leader--while only 28 per cent cited democracy as a priority.

Iraqis are cynical about their political leaders, Cockburn writes. The election results are likely to show that the great majority of Iraqis will vote along ethnic or religious lines as Shia, Sunni or Kurds. The country is turning from a unitary state into a confederation.

There is no sign yet of the thousand-day war ending. Every month up to a thousand fresh corpses arrive at the mortuary in Baghdad. A new Iraq is emerging but it is already drenched in blood.

so, I called his financial advisor yesterday and told him to put hubby in a "safe" plan. It's now in a money market fund that is part of his IRA.

I have no choice. I have to stay where I am. I have no "safe" available. Neither of us will be able to retire on what is now in our 401Ks and you're not the only one. We couldn't buy a car with Both our 401Ks, let alone live on it.

We are late starters for retirement  not until our late 40s funds (most of our employers did not offer pensions). We are now of the first retirement tier and although we own our home outright, if we live until we are 90, there is no way we can live off retirement 401Ks or SS.

My husband's father told him back in the 50s that we would experience something like what is happening today and stated it would be worse than the ཙ crash. It is sure starting to look that way, but we will survive some way, I hope.

We need to pray for the people on SS now that cannot survive. I, for one, would love to help them, but can't help ourselves at this moment.

nm

North, get a grip woman!   Are you and A. Nonymous some kind of comedy team?  You’re feeding the straight lines to AN and she (he?) is getting the laughs?  Wow are your buttons easy to push.  I sure hope AN (the drunken cheap scotch/irish nazi) does not stop posting, because this is just too much fun to watch.  

Yeah we get it.  You’re black,  educated and you speak English well.  You write well so you probably speak OK too.  But you just don’t read so great.  Where in any of these posts did AN say you personally were uneducated or did not have a work ethic?  Where is the part about you not speaking English?  Did you see the word ebonics and just stop reading?  If you care so much about all people why are you not standing up for the other two groups mentioned - do you have something against hispanics and hillbillies? 

You have to be very worn out from carrying around that big chip on your shoulder.  Why don’t you put it down and stop taking offense at remarks that were obviously not aimed your way?   The topic was career mooches and freeloaders.  You seem to be an MT and have a job or be on the site looking for one.  Nobody called you anything - why so defensive?