If you make less than $250K you get tax break nm
Posted By: Mike W on 2008-10-27
In Reply to: my actual reason is more selfish than this... - Kendra
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MTs make under $250K
Just because plumbing seems like a crappy job, let's face it, I see those guys driving Jaguars where I live. They are expensive and make a lot. MTs work very hard for very little. Wise up people. Obama is our hope. All the BS about him being with terrorists is dangerous propaganda. That board who had Ayers and Obama on was a big Reagan supporter and actually the Anenbergs are McCain supporters so it's all crapola. Obama is a wonderful man and a smart man. McCain stutters and whistles through his teeth, clears his throat loudly. I thought he was rude in the debate. The losers usually feel desperate and he shows it.
Holycrap! You make more than 250K a year!
How did you do that with MT jobs?
the $250K
it's the business making $250K, not the man. Big difference.
He later corrected to $250K
He knows the middle class. I'm sure you make under $250K so why are you splitting hairs?
He never said that he made over $250K
He said that he wanted to buy a business that he thought made over $250K. I thought that it was okay to have dreams. How do you know what his intentions are? Even if he were a plant--which I think is silly--he is a citizen and ultimately has a right to propose a hypothetical question to someone asking for his vote to be the leader of our country. If he is attacked in this manner, should we not all fear what will happen if we say anything bad about Obama or ask a question that makes him look bad once he is--if he is--elected?
they changed that $250K...
Now they're saying more like $200K and going lower. And let's just face it. 20 bucks or $200K, everybody is gonna pay more taxes.
I understand the payroll tax on only over $250K....sm
I understand I won't pay more payroll tax and income tax at our low income, but it's the property taxes, fuel taxes, sales taxes, and capital gains taxes that are going to go up too, and being landowners and ranchers raising livestock, those taxes affect us big time and just add to the cost of our business, which already is hard to make a profit on.
I know it's hard for people whose income is from a job where you go to work and bring home a paycheck and taxes are simple to understand. But running a business isn't just about how much comes out of your paycheck for payroll tax and what you pay for income tax once a year. These corporate taxes he's talking about are going to affect so many small businesses because most of them make between $500,000-$1,000,000 a year, and increasing their tax rates is going to kill them. It's going to cause them to lay off employees, raise their prices, or simply close their doors.
I have several family members with mom-and-pop business in small towns from a beauty salon to a restaurant and a small computer fix-it business and they will really be hurt by this. They can't raise their prices because people in their small town can't afford to pay higher prices.
There are a lot of big farmers in our area who easily make over $250,000 a year, but what people don't realize is that probably 90-95% of what they sell their crops for has to go into planting and harvesting those crops and they have little to actually live on to pay their heating and food bills, etc., when it's all said and done, so where are they going to come up with the extra tax money?
By sticking it to the big corporate business, there's going to be a lot of collateral damage in the wake and those are going to be the small to mid-sized business of our friends and family. They need to raise the amount to 1-2 million or something because this is going to kill small town main street. JMHO
Oh, and BTW, $250K is not wealthy businesses
They're middle of the road, just making it businesses. They don't employ 3000 people like big business and they will be hurt the most. Big business will pass the tax increase onto the taxpayers. They'll be able to find loopholes with their 30+ laywers (exageration) who are paid to do that.
Wake up and take the blinders off!
Sorry Sam, but the Bush cuts were only for those over $250K nm
not us peons
It was $250K including a business....
and $250K for a business is nothing. and since when is rich a bad word. Only when someone is jealous.
Not unless I am making over 250K and that's not happening. nm
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I never said I made $250K a year... where did you get that from my post?...sm
Actually, I work one full-time MT job and a part-time general transcription off and on. I make less than $38,000 a year. My husband is self-employed (we own a ranch) and everything we make from the sale of our livestock and grains has to go back into the operation of the ranch for property taxes, insurance, feed, equipment, repairs, so at best, we break even, and even that doesn't happen often. So we basically live on what I make as an MT, which is less than $38,000 a year.
Yes, it can be done. We do not apply for, nor take any of the government subsidies. We've worked hard and scrimped and saved, and have also sold aluminum cans to help with extra cash coming in, etc. I've always shopped thrift shops for clothes for us and the kids, I've never bought new furniture, have no china or crystal, and the only jewelry I've ever owned was my wedding ring, so couldn't fall back on having the option of selling things such as these to help out.
We've actually been rather comfortable with this and have always felt like we weren't missing out on anything by living a very simple and quiet life. But now I'm afraid we're going to lose what we've worked so hard for because we can't afford any more taxes to pay for those who won't work hard.
I could go on disability due to some physical problems and inability to do probably 99% of jobs out there, but my physical disability doesn't keep me from doing MT work, and I can make a decent living doing that, so why not? If at some point in my life something happens that I can no longer do MT, then I'll have no choice but go on disability because I can't stand/walk/move around in order to get most other jobs out there, but for now I have a choice to work doing something I can do, and I choose to do that.
Most people I know on disability have other skills and could be doing other jobs, but they'd rather take the label of disabled and never work again. I choose to work at what I can do until I can't do it anymore.
I know one gal who was on disability and was offered a great job that paid over $2000 a month, but she would lose her disability, so didn't take the job... when I asked her how much her disability was, it was only $1300 a month! Duh... And the thing is, she would be great in that position and would have been a wonderful asset to the community doing that job. Just didn't make sense to me.
I feel for your situation and I don't think that things like your disabled child being on SSI or whatever is ''on the dole'' because those are exactly the people we as fellow Americans need to be helping. I'm sorry for your health situation and that is most tragic as it can happen to anyone.
The people I'm talking about are the ones who have no major health problems, no job, but could get a job if they wanted to, but welfare pays better, so they don't. My daughter works in a field where she sees daily where parents are dropping kids off at a daycare which is paid for through the social services office, and they go sit in the casino and gamble and smoke cigarettes. How much is a pack of smokes these days, $5? That's $150 a month that could pay for heating your house, putting food on your table, etc., but they don't need the money for those things because they are on programs to get those paid for too.
I'm not pointing a finger at you or people who have real problems and can't work, it's the abusers of the system that I'm upset about. I know of one couple who just a few years ago traveled on a vacation to Tokyo and got to leave their five adopted children with a foster care service absolutely free. This woman used to complain that she only got 15 hours a week of ''respite'' babysitting service.... I raised my kids and probably never had 15 hours total away from them in all the years they grew up as I didn't have family around where I lived and couldn't afford a babysitter. This particular family drives new vehicles, has memberships to clubs, eat out all the time as it's too hard for the mom to cook for so many people, etc., and they have no jobs or any other income. How do they do that?
Again, I'm just saying, we have always made as much as we could and spent as little as we could get by with and were perfectly happy that it balanced out enough that we could live on our own without having to take any freebies from anybody, and if we have to pay more taxes in the future, that balance is going to be upset, and I don't want to lose what we've worked so hard for.
I don't know which candidate is going to be able to do anything about our healthcare situation, but I believe your medical situation is a prime example of how the messed up healthcare industry is bringing decent people down and something needs to be done about it... But I can't afford my own medical care, how can you expect me to pay for everyone else's?
I wouldn't mind making 250K and paying
25% in taxes....
Bidens words - no longer $250K - Now $150K (nm)
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"Senator Obama's Four Tax Increases for People Earning Under $250k"...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html
I confess. Senator Obama's two tax promises: to limit tax increases to only those making over $250,000 a year, and to not raise taxes on 95% of "working Americans," intrigued me. As a hard-working small business owner, over the past ten years I've earned from $50,000 to $100,000 per year. If Senator Obama is shooting straight with us, under his presidency I could look forward to paying no additional Federal taxes -- I might even get a break -- and as I struggle to support a family and pay for two boys in college, a reliable tax freeze is nearly as welcome as further tax cuts.
However, Senator Obama's dual claims seemed implausible, especially when it came to my Federal income taxes. Those implausible promises made me look at what I'd been paying before President Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, as well as what I paid after those tax cuts became law. I chose the 2000 tax tables as my baseline -- they reflect the tax rates that Senator Obama will restore by letting the "Bush Tax Cuts" lapse. I wanted to see what that meant from my tax bill.
I've worked as the state level media and strategy director on three Presidential election campaigns -- I know how "promises" work -- so I analyzed Senator Obama's promises by looking for loopholes.
The first loophole was easy to find: Senator Obama doesn't "count" allowing the Bush tax cuts to lapse as a tax increase. Unless the cuts are re-enacted, rates will automatically return to the 2000 level. Senator Obama claims that letting a tax cut lapse -- allowing the rates to return to a higher levels -- is not actually a "tax increase." It's just the lapsing of a tax cut.
See the difference?
Neither do I.
When those cuts lapse, my taxes are going up -- a lot -- but by parsing words, Senator Obama justifies his claim that he won't actively raise taxes on 95 percent of working Americans, even while he's passively allowing tax rates to go up for 100% of Americans who actually pay Federal income taxes.
Making this personal, my Federal Income Tax will increase by $3,824 when those tax cuts lapse. That not-insignificant sum would cover a couple of house payments or help my two boys through another month or two of college.
No matter what Senator Obama calls it, requiring us to pay more taxes amounts to a tax increase. This got me wondering what other Americans will have to pay when the tax cuts lapse.
For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this increase will be $3,074. For those making just $50,000, this increase will be $1,512. Despite Senator Obama's claim, even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax increase -- they'll pay $715 more in 2010 than they did in 2007. Across the board, when the tax cuts lapse, working Americans will see significant increases in their taxes, even if their household income is as low as $25,000. See the tables at the end of this article.
Check this for yourself. Go to http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/ and pull up the 1040 instructions for 2000 and 2007 and go to the tax tables. Based on your 2007 income, check your taxes rates for 2000 and 2007, and apply them to your taxable income for 2007. In 2000 -- Senator Obama's benchmark year -- you would have paid significantly more taxes for the income you earned in 2007. The Bush Tax Cuts, which Senator Obama has said he will allow to lapse, saved you money, and without those cuts, your taxes will go back up to the 2000 level. Senator Obama doesn't call it a "tax increase," but your taxes under "President" Obama will increase -- significantly.
Senator Obama is willfully deceiving you and me when he says that no one making under $250,000 will see an increase in their taxes. If I were keeping score, I'd call that Tax Lie #1.
The next loophole involves the payroll tax that you pay to support the Social Security system. Currently, there is an inflation-adjusted cap, and according to the non-profit Tax Foundation, in 2006 -- the most recent year for which tax data is available -- only the first $94,700 of an unmarried individual's earnings were subject to the 12.4 percent payroll tax. However, Senator Obama has proposed lifting that cap, adding an additional 12.4 percent tax on every dollar earned above that cap -- and in spite of his promise, impacting all those who earn between $94,700 and $249,999.
By doing this, he plans to raise an additional $1 trillion dollars (another $662.50 out of my pocket -- and how much out of yours?) to help fund Social Security. Half of this tax would be paid by employees and half by employers -- but employers will either cut the payroll or pass along this tax to their customers through higher prices. Either way, some individual will pay the price for the employer's share of the tax increase.
However, when challenged to explain how he could eliminate the cap AND not raise taxes on Americans earning under $250,000, Senator Obama suggested on his website that he "might" create a "donut" -- an exemption from this payroll tax for wages between $94,700 and $250,000. But that donut would mean he couldn't raise anywhere near that $1 trillion dollars for Social Security. When this was pointed out, Senator Obama's "donut plan" was quietly removed from his website.
This "explanation" sounds like another one of those loopholes. If I were keeping score, I'd call this Tax Lie #2.
(updated) Senator Obama has also said that he will raise capital gains taxes from 15 percent to 20 percent. He says he's aiming at "fat cats" who make above $250,000. However, while only 1 percent of Americans make a quarter-million dollars, roughly 50 percent of all Americans own stock – and while investments that are through IRAs, 401Ks and in pension plans are not subject to capital gains, those stocks in personal portfolios are subject to capital gains, no matter what the owner’s income is. However, according to the US Congress’s Joint Economic Committee Study, “Recent data released by the Federal Reserve shows that nearly half of all U.S. households are stockholders. In the last decade alone, the number of stockholders has jumped by over fifty percent.” This is clear – a significant number of all Americans who earn well under $250,000 a year will feel this rise in their capital gains taxes.
Under "President" Obama, if you sell off stock and earn a $100,000 gain -- perhaps to help put your children through college -- instead of paying $15,000 in capital gains taxes today, you'll pay $20,000 under Obama's plan. That's a full one-third more, and it applies no matter how much you earn.
No question -- for about 50 percent of all Americans, this is Tax Lie #3.
Finally, Senator Obama has promised to raise taxes on businesses -- and to raise taxes a lot on oil companies. I still remember Econ-101 -- and I own a small business. From both theory and practice, I know what businesses do when taxes are raised. Corporations don't "pay" taxes -- they collect taxes from customers and pass them along to the government. When you buy a hot dog from a 7/11, you can see the clerk add the sales tax, but when a corporation's own taxes go up, you don't see it -- its automatic -- but they do the same thing. They build this tax into their product's price. Senator Obama knows this. He knows that even people who earn less than $250,000 will pay higher prices -- those pass-through taxes -- when corporate taxes go up.
No question: this is Tax Lie #4.
There's not a politician alive who hasn't be caught telling some minor truth-bender. However, when it comes to raising taxes, there are no small lies. When George H.W. Bush's "Read my lips -- no new taxes" proved false, he lost the support of his base -- and ultimately lost his re-election bid.
This year, however, we don't have to wait for the proof: Senator Obama has already promised to raise taxes, and we can believe him. However, while making that promise, he's also lied, in at least four significant ways, about who will pay those taxes. If Senator Obama becomes President Obama, when the tax man comes calling, we will all pay the price. And that's the truth.
Tax Rates - and the Obama Increase - $50,000/year Taxable Income
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2000 Tax Tables
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2003 Tax Tables
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2004 Tax Tables
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2010 Tax Tables - (Bush Tax Cuts have Expired)
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Increase with Obama Tax Increase*
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Taxable Income
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$50,000
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$50,000
|
$50,000
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$50,000
|
$50,000
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Tax: Single
|
$10,581
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$9,304
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$9,231
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$10,581
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$1,350
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Tax: Married - Filing Joint
|
$8,293
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$6,796
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$6,781
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$8,293
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$1,512
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Tax: Married - Filing Separate
|
$11,143
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$9,304
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$9,231
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$11,143
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$1,912
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Tax: Head of Household
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$9,424
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$8,189
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$8,094
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$9,424
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$1,330
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Tax Rates - and the Obama Increase - $75,000/year Taxable Income
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2000 Tax Tables
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2003 Tax Tables
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2004 Tax Tables
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2010 Tax Tables - (Bush Tax Cuts have Expired)
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Increase with Obama Tax Increase*
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Taxable Income
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$75,000
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$75,000
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$75,000
|
$75,000
|
$75,000
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Tax: Single
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$17,923
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$15,739
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$15,620
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$17,923
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$2,303
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Tax: Married - Filing Joint
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$15,293
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$12,364
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$12,219
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$15,293
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$3,074
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Tax: Married - Filing Separate
|
$18,803
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$16,083
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$15,972
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$18,803
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$2,831
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Tax: Head of Household
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$16,424
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$14,439
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$14,344
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$16,424
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$2,080
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Tax Rates - and the Obama Increase - $100,000/year Taxable Income
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2000 Tax Tables
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2003 Tax Tables
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2004 Tax Tables
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2010 Tax Tables - (Bush Tax Cuts have Expired)
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Increase with Obama Tax Increase*
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Taxable Income
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$100,000
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$100,000
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$100,000
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$100,000
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$100,000
|
Tax: Single
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$25,673
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$22,739
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$22,620
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$25,673
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$3,053
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Tax: Married - Filing Joint
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$22,293
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$18,614
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$18,469
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$22,293
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$3,824
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Tax: Married - Filing Separate
|
$27,515
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$23,715
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$23,504
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$27,515
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$4,011
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Tax: Head of Household
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$23,699
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$20,741
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$20,594
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$23,699
|
$3,015
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* When "President" Obama allows President Bush's tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 to expire, this will amount to a DE facto tax increase
NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less
If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)
That's right, Bush is still alive and well. Check this out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676
Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?
Just because you make a statement does not make it true...
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let's break this up...
I would not hang out with hitler just because I so young at that time. Like is to like and water seeks its own level, etc. you are known by the company you keep.
I would like to point out there are people out there who would rip the hide off Thomas Jefferson for what many thought he did with a slave although since proven he did not and that was a lot longer ago.
I was doing pretty good until this year, but NAFTA was started by clinton, not bush. The war seems to be was started by all of us or at least the people we voted for, because saddam himself started the rumors he had weapons of mass destruction, apparently to keep iran out of his hair. This was actually reported on 60 minutes, not known for conservatist reporting. We were told this would be a long haul before it even was started. Honestly, I don't know anymore, and neither do most of us.
I am no longer pro choice. I find pregnancy almost totally inexcusable except for obvious cases of rape and incest, and a few other criteria. The practice seems barbaric to me and the PETA people would all over us if we did the same to animals.
SS: Some people were already pulling out of SS into other plans back in the 80's and as I remember, some of them failed and the money disappeared leaving them with not enough SS points to quality. Scary. There was nothing wrong with SS until Washington got greedy and stole from it to bail out Medicare or Medicaid.
Don't get the last one about decades-old news, celebrity. I don't pay attention to celebrities and old news should be looked at as history, hopefully so we don't repeat past errors.
No, we are not basically okay, but a lot of this on personal levels we have done to ourselves. We are now in the habit of pointing blame at anybody else rather than own up to what we do.
Don't know how to break this to you, but
I read the letter in its entirety. I read it for a second time because I was so stunned that anybody anywhere was trying to make political hay out of a communist analyzing the DNC, comparing its presentation to his father's "methods," remembering his father fondly (most human beings do this once their parents have passed) praising the DNC success and THEN making the leap from this to Obama is a communist and is into mind control. I posted and went about my business. All day long, I kept thinking about the absurdity of the original contention and continued to chuckle each time. I came back this afternoon and lo and behold, someone is still trying to make something of this. I am still LMAO. It is on the pathetic side that the promoters of this conspiracy theory cannot see the folly in this most preposterous notion.
Don't know how to break this to you, but
Fairly tame in comparison to the real liberal press, none of which is broadcast on cable or networks. MSNBC is simply a democratic viewpoint, not liberal enough for the libs. If you think these sources do not represent democrats, why not ask them, instead of assuming that you know something about something that you know nothing about. But hey, you already have no credibilty outside the choir.
Let me break this down for you.
Obama and McCain are the candidates. The economy is in meltdown mode:
1. People are losing their jobs. In Georgia, for example, their unempolyments claims jumped a whopping 76% last month. Nationally, initial unemployment claims jumped to 498,000, the highest they have been since October 2001. Over the last year, the number of unemployed has risen from 2.2 million to 9.5 million.
2. Jobs are being lost in record numbers. 760,000 jobs have been lost this past year....the highest rise since October 2003....and the 9th consecutive month for job loss.
3. They are losing their homes. The foreclosure rate rose 12% last month, 27% from one year ago nationwide. However, Nevada,for example, has seen an 89% jump from last year, California 75%, just to give you the idea.
4. They are losing their life savings. Stock market crash shows net loss of 38% this past year. That means that a $100,000 investment a year ago is now worth $62,000. 401K statements are due out momentarily. If you think right-wingers are angry about the "socialist takeover,", just wait for that news to hit home. You haven't seen angry just yet.
Candidates are expected to have positions and plans on such issues as the economy. Recent polls indicate that Obama holds a double-digit lead in voter confidence when it comes to handling the economic crisis. Obama talks openly about his economic plan. McCain runs and hides from the issue. That is why we are all waiting for HIS supporters and for HIM to step up to the plate and enlighten us as to how his economic policies would be different from W's and what his plans are for fixing the problems. The answer does not include any mention of his opponent's name. It requires a direct, open, thorough, honest response. Can you handle that?
OK. Let me break this down for you.
catch my drift. Here's a clue. It's a word that would be barred from the forum. Nevertheless, for me it is an appropriate moniker. My news sources are hardly confined to TV broadcasts. I read newspapers, news magazines and listen to radio broadcasts, but am not keen on radio talk shows. Heavy on information, void of editorial and lending easily to my own interpretation....that's how I like my news. Focks does not rise to that standard.
Your being a Focks promoter, explains the narrow scope of your posts. There is nothing fair and balanced about them and there is a reason that CNN and MSNBC do not broadcast most of the garbage Focks tries to pass off as legitimate reporting. Sean Hannity is a major player in the fomenting hatred that grips the pub party and will eventually tank McCain's campaign. CNN and MNBC are only marginally better. I am more drawn to information that is a bit more academic and certainly more intelligent.
I am not susceptible to spells or propagnda. I am 60 years old, have been a political junkie since age 14, have been issues active, yet not particularly party active, since the early 1960s. I am no follower, but am well acquainted with myself and my core beliefs. My life experiences, economic class, gender and race have all been contributing factors in my passions for civil/human rights and socioeconomic issues, minority rights in particular.
I fear ignorance, not truth and there is nothing you, Focks or right-wingers can say to make me drink the Kook-Aid you are selling. I know raw ignorance when I see it and that is precisely what people of intelligence see when they witness the target audience at the McCain/Palin rallies. They are losing the election and cannot come up with a coherent campaign strategy that engages anyone outside their fringe elements.
I will pray for you, too, because you are in for a rude shock in T-minus-24. I look forward to a Bushless world, a step into the future and a closed chapter on the politics of fear. Bye-Bye.
Come on, cut her a break
They did outlaw the action figure. Give her some credit!
Let's break this down for you, MT.
The idea is to debunk the ignorance behind the stereotype that all Moslems, moderates included, are terrorists....an assumption you have clearly made. This can be done by not referring to them as terrorists or implying that the US is "at war" with Islam. In other words, Islam/Moslems and terrorists are not synonymous.
Winning over moderates starts with mitigating anti-American sentiment that has been flamed over the past 7 years under the shrub among moderate Moslems. The weaker that sentiment becomes, the less attraction and "draw" the extremist groups will have. The Moslems will end up marginalizing their OWN extremists and become part of the war on terror, not just idle bystanders.
Don't even try to imply that this is not possible. I have had Moslem friends for over 40 years now and not once have I even encountered a terrorist among them. On the contrary. They are quite open to the West and pretty much DETEST the rise of the Islamic political parties in their region.
The tax break is for everyone, not the top 10%
Everyone gets a tax break. The whole point is to get things moving again. I think his package would have done it.
Sure you don't break the rules
Sure you don't. Your fingerprints are all over the conservative board, but that's neither here or there but I could really care less.
Well, let me break out my violin
if this was a true account of this interview I don't know what this reporter expected....did she expect that he would let an Irish anti-war reporter rip him to shreds? Considering all the hatred he's been subjected to I would say he held his peace quite well.
You follow follow a protocol with any dignitary or leader you'd meet anywhere in the world. Wonder if this chick has ever met the queen? Now, there's some strict protocol for you.
Give me a break.
The CON board has been demoralized by nonstop drive-by vitriol for months. Forgive me if I'm neither surprised nor particularly perturbed to see that the worm has turned here. My congratulations, though, extend to all those who post with the very obvious intent of ridiculing and harassing those with opposing views to the point of eliminating rational discussion on these boards. If their purpose is to eliminate rational discussion of important political issues, they seem to be succeeding.
He's trying to break a record you know.
Cutting his vacation short due to the Katrina disaster could have affected his record! Must be nice to have over a year of vacation time in only 7 years, and a war-time president at that. I'm not surprised though. I almost don't want to talk smack about him anymore because it is just too easy. It helps to vent though, I suppose.
oh give me a break!
as the person said above, ive never used his whole name, and i said it for impact, not because i care about him. Honestly, I don't know McCain's Middle name! or Joe Biden's or Sara Palin's. pathetic that you talk about me in third person. ask like the person above. again you know nothing about me, i have pics all up on my myspace of me shaking Obama's hand and me at his speech... you know the old saying if you assume you make an a$$ out of you and me!
Hate to break this to you, but it's a
nm
Hate to break it to you....
...Obama's been bouncing all over the place with in unreliable polls, too, for months....why is it that his rise in the pools was all "reliable" or does "unreliable" only count when the Republicans bounce ahead.
I like that lipstick platform line, too......not too derogatory, just a touch of sarcasm....works for me.....
Well, hate to break it to you....
but not everyone who disagrees with a Democrat is a Republican. I am a conservative. The Republican party left me, I didn't leave it. So now I am an Independent. Quack back at ya!
Hate to break it to you this way, but -
gay men can produce sperm, too. It doesn't just come from hetero males.
Is that what they were teaching in your school system - 'fuzzy biology'?
Oh, give me a break!!!!!!!
Nancy Pelosi wants to take on some of her "garbage" to the deal. There should be NOTHING added, nadda, let alone her screwed up way of thinking mess. There will be so much added garbage by the thieves on capital hill WE are paying for, the debt itself will never see the money.
Likely to die? Give me a break.
Are you suggesting he's NOT being diligent about his health? Do you think he hasn't had an MRI just because he didn't fax it to your house? Vote for whoever you want, but siding with that numbskull Obama because you have a preminition of death re. his opponent is laughable.
Story about to break....
whistle blower from Project Vote/Acorn...testifying in PA yesterday...supposedly has documents proving direct link between Obama campaign and Acorn/Project Vote...who this person says are virtually the same....saying Obama campaign gave the maxed-out donor list to Acorn/Project Vote so they could get donations from them for their voter registration program. So much for "I have no connection to Acorn or their voter registration programs." If I was that woman I would hire bodyguards.
Give me a break!
Hey, guess what? The war in Iraq IS pointless. It was predicated on a lie by power and money hungry idiots (Bush/Cheney, supported by McCain). The idea that our troops should stay and fight and die for a lie just so McCain can put a big W in the win box is sickening. McCain says he's all about veterans...yeah right. I guess that's why he voted against the new GI bill. You may want to take issue with him on that.
Give me a break. Okay...YOU TELL ME.
Follow me now....listen. Obama SAID he is going to give a tax cut to 95% of Americans. He has said it REPEATEDLY. FACT: 95% of Americans DO NOT PAY federal income taxes. Between 30% and 40% DO NOT. Okay...focus here now. HOW is the great and powerful OBama going to give a tax break to THOSE 30-40% who are a LARGE PART of that 95%?????? You said yourself: You cannot be given a tax CUT if you do not pay taxes. Look at his plan AGAIN re: refundable tax credits. THAT is where the 30-40% are going to get their "cut." IN the form of a check. Good grief, it is so simple, is THAT why you don't get it?
If I am so misguided, please help me understand...95% of all Americans are going to get a tax cut. He said it. Repeatedly. 30-40% OF that 95% DO NOT pay federal income tax. So WHERE, unless he is lying through his teeth, is THEIR TAX CUT going to come from, if not through refundable tax credits in the form of a check? Please enlighten me, or bright one who knows SOOOO much more than I do.
Thank you so much.
Not a break from reality,
but more a trance. Freaks me out. Thanks for the statements you posted. This is not a normal election, but more of a movement. Hope it will not be like it was in the 60's with riots going on. Getting more and more like the Book of Revelations. A person who will deceive the nations with persuasive language and have massive christ-like appeal and people will flock to him as he will promise false hope and world peace, but destroys everything. FREAKS ME OUT. He keeps changing his mind and now he and his campaign want to try to kill the expectations of what he has been stating for months. Beyond creepy. This is not your normal every four year election.
Give me a break is right.
Someone posts and says we shouldn't post and use the day to mourn Obamas beloved granny. But Obama doesn't stop campaigning. You just don't like it that the truth is coming out about the O. You just don't like it that there is a possibility he could lose. I don't think he will lose but there is that possibility. But your using any excuse to try to suppress information from being put out and telling us we're heartless, etc. When you know for a fact if it was McCains mother you would still be posting articles.
Yes it is sad to lose a grandparent that you love. We all know this. We all have sympathy. But it's not stopping him from continuing to campaign and it shouldn't. The election is tomorrow. He is grieving in his own way as everyone does when they lose a beloved. However because his grandmother died should not stop the Obama supporters to keep supporting and the McCain supporters to keep supporting McCain.
Are you trying to say the Obama should keep campaigning and his supporters keep doing what they're doing but McCain should stop campaigning and his supporters just go into morning for Obama.
Hate to break this to you,
this economic crisis is so deep, it may take a little short-term socialism to get it back on course. The wild abandon of free market system and W's corpocracy is what landed us here. Before you come back at me with dems in Congress, let's not forget W's big burley veto pen. Not much good can happen until the duck quacks his final quack.
GIVE HER A BREAK -was trying to say.
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give me a break
"tax breaks for the wealthy" why is this such a talking point? Tax breaks for EVERYONE THAT PAID TAXES. Because the rich paid a whole h3ll of a lot more than you or me, they get a bigger return, wow that's not hard to make sense out of.
Gimme A Break
I read your link. You left this part out:
"It does not appear that Emanuel engaged in any illegal horse-trading - Blagojevich complained at one stage that all the president-elect’s team was offering was “appreciation”. “F*** them,” the governor said."
Direct quote from Obama:
"I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I'm confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this seat. I think the materials released by the U.S. attorney reflect that fact."
Let's see. Obama's chief of staff talked to the governor who'll fill the vacancy left by Obama's presidency. Well, of course they talked. It would have been odd if they hadn't talked. Emanuel talked to Blagojevich about the vacancy, which isn't inappropriate, and which was fully expected.
There's no there there. Nothing. Knowing Emanuel's and Blago's choice of vocabulary, it was all probably just one long *bleep* anyway.
Gimme a break.
Give me a break
And that statement was from the MT board's 'Trickle Up Economist for 2008!!!  
Oh yes....let us break tradition
to once again shoot down those who believe in God for the sake of those who spit at the very idea of Him. As long as the non-belivers are happy....who cares about Christians....right? Goodness knows we have taken Him out of schools to make you people happy. Nativity scenes can't be put up without a secular winter solstice sign stating there is no God right next to it. The 10 commandments, no matter how good they are to live by, can't be put in a court house because it is based on religious beliefs. Anything else you would like to take away from us because you can't say Merry Christmas anymore without someone having a cow. Sheesh. I'm so sick of this crap!
Gimme A Break
GIMME A BREAK!
Jeez, even the most conservative talking heads have said that there's absolutely NOTHING to this story. Absolutely NOTHING! It's nonsense, and the more you harp about it, the more moronic you sound.
And if "Kadafi" (sic) and Ahmadinejad were AMERICAN CITIZENS and won the popular and electoral college votes BY A LANDSLIDE, they'd be president-elect, too.
But they're not and they didn't, so your post and ridiculous rantings on this subject are totally meaningless.
GIMME A BREAK!!
I do believe she said give it a break.
Yup, that is what she said
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