Doesn't seem hypocritical to me. s/m
Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-10-27
In Reply to: Forget abortion for a minute.....people... - sam
I SAID I believe abortion equals murder. I believe murder in any form is wrong but I would say that many people don't agree with me or there wouldn't be so many murders. There was a murder on a college campus in Conway, AR yesterday. Obviously if the perps thought it was "wrong" they wouldn't have done it. I also believe that if a person lies, they will also steal and if they will steal they would commit murder. I try not to be judgmental of others. Abortion is, I believe, something that is between the woman and God and I would not presume to speak for God. I figure I've done enough wrong in my own life that I don't need to be passing judgment on ANYONE for ANYTHING. Sort of like taking the log out of my own eye so I can see clearly to remove the speck of dust from my brother's/sister's eye.
As Kendra and I both admitted, we like to argue so hop on in here and argue with us. LOL Sometimes arguing causes people to actually think, something all of us need to be do. It just gets so old with all of the old Obama trash being repeated over and over and over. Something new or proof of all the old stuff I would like to see.
You have a good day too, Sam.
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that is so hypocritical!
Do you not think that everyone who voted for McCain got sick and tired of hearing negative posts? I mean come on already, get over it! The thing that gets me is that anytime someone says ANYTHING they get slammed by O supporters. O supporters cannot handle controversy at all. I mean, look above for example. I said I did not like O stating that he would REQUIRE community service. Now all of a sudden people feel sorry for me and my kids because we hate community service. HAHAHAHAHHA. Talk about stretching what someone posted. You guys totally took one issue and turned it into another, one that I wasnt even talking about. Crack me up! No one wants to address the fact that his website said it would be REQUIRED, they just want to talk about how I hate community service. Talk about deflecting the issue.
Actually, I don't see it as hypocritical
The majority of those in favor of gay marriage are more likely the children of the free-love era (mid 30s and under). Although, surprisingly, the over 60s with a college education are also among the highest proponents of gay marriage, who may actually be the hippies on college campuses of yesteryear.
Taking it at face value, I don't really see that it is hypocritical. The 'hippies' wanted the right to determine their own relationship and felt that marriage was unnecessary. If you were to poll them, I wager their feelings have not changed on that...to them, to marry or not to marry was and is a matter of choice, which is a choice they feel should also be extended to gay couples.
It's all so much hypocritical whining.
Gee, how much did we wish that people would just lay off a little and let Clinton's private matters stay private for the sake of his family and the nation as a whole.
But NOOOOO, that wouldn't do, would it? The avid glee in exposing his most painful and regrettable bad judgment was the talk of Bushtown, they just HAD to smear it in all our faces and stuff it down our throats ad nauseum - no mercy there, no letting up, no quarter. Vultures.
Now look how they act when people speculate about a former alcoholic and coke blower possibly returning to the habit/s during a time of extreme stress - which is not even a ridculous thing to contemplate, God knows we all know someone who has been caught in this trap. If this is the case it's unfortunate for him, but the point is, it really DOES vitally affect our nation if it's true.
I'm afraid the right handed away its right to credibility on calling for compassion for the personal dignity of the chief executive. You had a chance to show some when the matter DIDN'T affect our nation's security, and you simply blew it big time.
In any case I think it's safe to say that should Bush be tipping a few, he's going to get far better treatment from sympathetic Americans both Republican AND Democrat than his predecessor did for his particular indulgences.
Pretty hypocritical
that you can't thank one without smearing the other.
Okay, fine. That is hypocritical
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Hypocritical, aren't you? Because you would
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HYPOCRITICAL is what I meant.
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What a hypocritical tyrade....
On one hand you yammer on abuot how no one has to "associate" with homosexuals if they don't want to but on other posts about schools wanting to push the homosexual agenda down the throats of students in school, you didn't seem to have a problem with that.
Like many of us know, you just want you cake and eat it too and this has nothing to do with "rights" but just getting your way.
Why aren't you as concerned about the rights of a child and leaving it up to their parents to teach them what they believe to be right? What a hypocrit!!
what is your IQ, I guess 79 I am in now way hypocritical, THINK, if you can
I am much too blunt and impulsive to be hypocritical, my answers come fast.
Do you even know what 'hypocritical' means, or are you just repeating and throwing words around you hear?
If you do not have anything intelligent to contribute to a post, just 'skip' it and move on, best to the Comedy board.
Your post was well written but hypocritical.
You admonish us to come together while in the same paragraph stating Republicans are to blame for everything gone wrong in the last 8 years. You speak of cluelessness, simplemindedness, backwardness, etc. etc. etc., insulting the past administration and anyone supportive of it while proclaiming the virtues of a man whose potential and abilities have not yet been proven. Your post is insulting, opinionated and presumptious, yet you are bewildered and dismayed by those not joining you on the Obama-idolizing bandwagon.
How dare you reduce this to an accusation of racial prejudice? How is such an assumption not hateful in itself?
It is precisely this kind of holier-than-thou attitude that creates and perpetuates devisivenss in the world!
What about the life of the raped woman,,,you are hypocritical freaks!...nm
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I find it far more hypocritical that Islam preaches as the religion of peace. sm
But then, that's just me.
Stop you evil propaganda, you're just lowering yourself to all those hypocritical evangelicals!
It's obvious your mind is already made up, so please do not force yours on us who do not agree with you one bit. If you're trying to make the rest of us swing in your direction by writing this litany of pettyness and sillyness, you're wrong. John McCain is passé...gone, okay? If I hear him talk about his military service and his tortures one more time, I'm going to puke! This is 2008, the war in Vietnam is long over and the U.S. had to get out. The Russians were in Aghanistan for ten years and had to get out with millions of their soldiers dead. This is an unwinnable war, why smarty pants can't you understand that? And Palin....oh please! She's a controller freak, she'll be running McCain if he's elected! We don't want neither one of them and you will see why come November 4th. We will not put up with four more years of aq Bush.......he's screwed up the country so bad in every way possible! Now everyone hates americans thanks to your current president. He's a Clint Eastwood in disguise. The axis of evil is America, and not the countries Bush loves to denigrade. So stop your propaganda against Barack, he's a breath of fresh air which we all long for. Biden did a lot more than McCain did in Congress. We don't need a novice from Alaska that's for sure. I'm Canadian and up here, it's democrat all the way. I suppose Palin can see the Yukon from her bedroom now? Bush will go down as the worst President the U.S. has ever had. No wonder you're all so scared and nervous about terrorists....he dared them and challendged and now they hate his guts. Let's get Barack in there and start negotiating, communicating and get the world on you side once again, like it used to be. So don't give me your crap about Barack or Joe. Bet you don't even know where Khandahar is! So stop your propaganda and keep your hateful thoughts to yourself!
Monique
ABC: Obama Is Hypocritical For Limiting Wall Street Pay While Having A ‘Lavish Lifest
Yesterday, President Obama instituted a pay cap on bailed out businesses after it was revealed that Wall Street doled out an estimated $18.4 billion in bonuses last year. “If the taxpayers are helping you, then you’ve got certain responsibilities to not be living high on the hog,” he explained.
In what appears to be an attempt to call Obama a hypocrite, ABC’s Scott Mayerowitz “reports” today that the President also has a “lavish lifestyle.” Under the title: “Obama’s Perks: Private Jet, Chef Tax-Free,” ABC notes that Obama earns $400,000 dollars a year and even has a private jet:
The president makes $400,000 a year, but hasn’t received a raise from Congress since 2001. He also gets a $50,000 annual entertainment expense account (any unused money at the end of the year must go back to the Treasury.)
Then there is the use of two private jets, Boeing 747s better known as Air Force One. And of course the constant security details, drivers, a private chef, a country vacation estate and the rent-free use of a well-known, 132-room mansion called the White House. The president also used to have a yacht, until Jimmy Carter sold it.
As its evidence that “corporate America” is upset, ABC said that “some Wall Street bloggers” are angry with the compensation cap. But the article cited only one blogger, Dealbreaker.com, who — apparently poking fun at Sen. Claire McCaskill’s statement — remarked, “Some accountability needs to be put in place. We won’t have them kicking sand in the face of taxpayers any longer.” Dealbreaker.com also suggests charging rent for White House tenants.
Comparing the President to Wall Street CEOs is absurd. The “private jet” that Obama uses is Air Force One, which is used as a security precaution and necessary for the dozens of staff and press that accompany the President on every trip. Each use of the jet by the President is regarded as a “classified military operation” in order to ensure the President’s safety.
Furthermore, Obama’s salary is set by Congress (whose members are elected by the public). CEO compensation is decided internally within the company, usually by its board of directors. The problem with recent excessive CEO compensation was that executives receiving federal funds were still rewarded for failure with tens of millions of dollars from their companies.
The President, on the other hand, does not get a bonus for his performance, good or bad. Indeed, Presidents Bush and Obama earn the same salary. County Fair at Media Matters has more.
Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm
In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."
Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.
He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.
Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man? Unless he has the same view of America.
Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
It doesn't appear they are.
It doesn't take all that...sm
If you disagree just state your points. Leave the stupid and fool name calling off. It only degrades the entire conversation and will start a whole new mess. That you may or may not want to be in. I don't know you may want that but since you are on the liberal board don't bash the posts here.
No he doesn't. sm
Rush and David Liimbaugh, along with their mother, are staunch conservatives. If you are a conservative, a true conservative, Rush espouses a true conservative viewpoint. He doesn't hate liberals. He loathes me. There is a difference. Rush is a big target for liberal talking heads. His brother is more low key but just as staunchly conservative. Yes, he makes money with his talk show. Can you tell me someone who is business to NOT make money. I can't seem to think of anyone. As much as I love Rush, he sometimes does get a little out there, but he has never changed his basic conservative principles from his early days in Missouri and I respect him.
He doesn't have to say it...they already are...
worshipping him.
It can mean to you whatever!!! It doesn't
mean you have to say it over and over! You're right, it IS a free country, and I will read AND complain about your posts as much as I like, just like YOU are complaining about everyone else!
Because she doesn't seem to believe it's a
Doesn't say anything about . . .
Republicans and democrats, says liberals and conservatives.
No it doesn't
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Sure gets old, doesn't it?
of course it doesn't
But, chosing not to vote for him just because he is black, does make you a racist. I believe that many folks will vote for McCain for that reason only. However, I also believe some folks will vote for Obama because they don't want a woman VP. Racism and sexism is still pretty widespread in this country.
Doesn't seem right does it?
After all, most employees can be fired at will so why not the politicians? Aren't they suppose to work for the people.
VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS.
It doesn't get any better than that
You got bashed, adored and even recruited a couple of new citizens! Great post!
CNN doesn't know everything....and
wasn't it Biden who said Obama was not experienced enough to be president months ago before he was chosen as VP running mate for Obama.
No, he doesn't.
in a Christian nation, the idea of addressing poverty inspires racial hatred and outrage, but you would go to the mat to protect your guns. Pitiful.
Unfortunately he doesn't
but knowing my dad he probably gave them a good piece of his mind LOL
And it doesn't have anything to do...(sm)
with the fact that Israel is really Arab land? How about the idea that Israel didn't even exist as a nation until established by a third party. How about the fact that Israel has been cutting off supplies from Gaza? (That would include food, medicine, etc) I don't know about you, but I tend to get a little testy when my kids don't have food. How about the fact that the US consistently manipulates people in that region (putting in leaders the US wants, only to take them out again when its convenient), and yet when it comes to Israel, the US has given them money and sofisticated weapons to fight against homemade rockets. How about the idea that when Iran invaded Iraq the US was all over it, but when Israel does the same thing to Gaza we just give them a green light and ignore the civilian death toll. How about the idea that oftentimes the US has backed both sides of a war, playing each for what it can get? Oh, by the way, Israel is not the only democracy over there. You don't think any of this has anything to do with it?
And if you really want to bring religion into it, how about that all important commandment about *thou shalt not kill?*
And it doesn't have anything to do...(sm)
with the fact that Israel is really Arab land? How about the idea that Israel didn't even exist as a nation until established by a third party. How about the fact that Israel has been cutting off supplies from Gaza? (That would include food, medicine, etc) I don't know about you, but I tend to get a little testy when my kids don't have food. How about the fact that the US consistently manipulates people in that region (putting in leaders the US wants, only to take them out again when its convenient), and yet when it comes to Israel, the US has given them money and sofisticated weapons to fight against homemade rockets. How about the idea that when Iran invaded Iraq the US was all over it, but when Israel does the same thing to Gaza we just give them a green light and ignore the civilian death toll. How about the idea that oftentimes the US has backed both sides of a war, playing each for what it can get? Oh, by the way, Israel is not the only democracy over there. You don't think any of this has anything to do with it?
And if you really want to bring religion into it, how about that all important commandment about *thou shalt not kill?*
Have you noticed how palestinian land keeps getting smaller and smaller? Is that because the land is shrinking or because Israel is greedy?
If he doesn't know what is going on in the WH...
how the hell is he experienced enough to run the CIA? Face it, your chosen one sure can't chose anyone for himself; the Clintons have him so wrapped around their fingers he has to pay back the favors...he is a shill for them.....he will be a one-term president...look at the dems at each other's throats already and he's not even sworn in yet! Ahh, it will be great to see the chosen one fail!
One doesn't have to know her
Personally to see the condescending demeanor she carries. She's a snoot, plain and simple! But did you know that she had never been to Obama's senate apartment in DC because it was too much like a college dorm for her? Now how's that for a snob?
OMG.....who doesn't know
that Bush started out with a surplus and created this huge deficit? Please....raise your hands if you don't know that because for some reason people continue to think that we DON'T KNOW THIS INFORMATION AND CONTINUE TO POST IT. Holy friggin cow.....WE KNOW ALREADY.
I can't change what Bush did. I wish I could.....but I can't. All I can do is watch what our government and our CURRENT president is doing now. Your arguments about Bush creating this deficit doesn't do squat for me when Obama wants to add to this deficit by continued government spending. President Obama is more concerned about his agenda for creating bigger government than he is cuttin this deficit. He can't do it. Sending troops into Afghan......doubling the deficit in just one month's time since he took office. Some of you people are more concerned about making us all know Bush ran up this deficit (WHICH WE KNOW, BTW) and refuse to see what Obama is doing........spending spending spending spending spending. You can't buy your way out of debt. That is like getting one loan to pay another one off or paying one credit card bill with another credit card......it is just plain STUPID STUPID STUPID.
So please....stop with the.....well Bush created this deficit.....WE KNOW THAT ALREADY. Now we have to focus on our president now and watch what he is doing. I'm p!ssed at both pubs and dems. I'm all for what Chuck Norris said on Glenn Beck last night.....he wants to line up all the unhonest politicians and choke them until they are unconscious.....that includes pubs and dems. They are all liars. they are all out for their own agenda. They care more about their pockets being filled with money and their "pet projects" they keep stuffing into these spending bills. INSANITY!!!! To he!! with both parties. I truly hope that come election time we have an independent that I can believe in because I certainly will not vote for either party. Screw them both. If we vote them all out, maybe they will realize how mad we are and that we aren't going to take it.
Instead......all we can talk about is how this is all Bush's fault. LOL. Seriously....we all know what Bush did. Now let's focus on the current president and see what he plans on doing and whether it will help or not. Right now.....spending money we don't have isn't the answer. STOP GOVERNMENT SPENDING!!!!
That's because O doesn't know what he is doing!
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Now you know why CT doesn't want him
They all voted him in DC so they'd get rid of him in CT. Nobody likes him back there. He's one of the biggest liars and cheats of all time. How long has he been in politics. They need to start putting limitations on how many terms you can run.
But God doesn't say that
So your response is pure nonsense.
And if your going to get into religion please go to the other board.
LOL :-) - sorry that doesn't cut it either
Trying to turn around a situation and make it look as though the people who didn't vote for the anointed ones have drunk the kool-aid???? Sorry, doesn't cut it and your going to have to try to do better than that one. Kool-aid drinkers are the ones that voted for the anointed one totally and blindly. You bought into the lies and didn't even ask questions. People who didn't vote for the messiah are not the kool-aid drinkers, hence the term "kool-aid drinkers".
Unfortunately some of the damage that your lord has done is irreparable. I am asking how many years do you think it will take to fix the harm he has done. That's an appropriate question. Unfortunately it has only been 90 days and I am gathering about 2 years to undo and fix 90 days worth of damage. I hate to see how many more years will be added.
That's because he really doesn't know what's going on.
He's given a written script and if anything varies from what is written, he doesn't know how to answer.
He doesn't tell us to
love their sinful behavior so, YES, you DID miss my point.
Why doesn't this surprise me??
Don't tell her she doesn't have a right to speak
If Cindy Sheehan had the right to spew her feelings Army Mom has that right too. Works both ways as bad as you HATE it...
Hey, doesn't surprise me
When Carter won one I knew the committee's cheese had completely slid of their cracker.
He doesn't have to veto any of them.
All he does is sign them all with a Presidential statement changing whatever he doesn't like about the law when he signs it, just like he did with the McCain torture bill. He signed it but amended it to add that he still reserves the right to torture.
He does what he wants, couldn't care less about Congress or Americans.
At least one soldier doesn't
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June 06, 2006
Lieutenant defies Army over ‘illegal’ war
By William Cole
The Honolulu Advertiser
In one of the first known cases of its kind, an Army officer from Honolulu is expected to refuse to go to Iraq this month with his unit, citing what he calls the “illegal” and “immoral” basis of the war, his father confirmed.
The officer, 1st Lt. Ehren K. Watada, 28, son of former state campaign spending commission executive director Bob Watada, is believed to be one of the first military officers to publicly take steps to refuse his deployment orders.
“My son has a great deal of courage, and clearly understands what is right, and what is wrong,” Bob Watada said yesterday. “He’s choosing to do the right thing, which is a hard course.”
Watada declined further comment until a news conference planned for 11 a.m. tomorrow at the state Capitol. His son is with a Stryker unit out of Fort Lewis, Wash., and is expected to participate by teleconference.
Jeff Paterson, a former Kaneohe Bay Marine who refused to board a transport in 1990 heading to the Gulf War and now works as an anti-war activist with the organization Not In Our Name, said a second news conference will be held in Tacoma, Wash.
On a Web site Paterson said was created by friends and family, the “Lt.” is quoted as saying: “I refuse to be silent any longer. I refuse to watch families torn apart, while the President tells us to ‘stay the course.’ ... I refuse to be party to an illegal and immoral war against people who did nothing to deserve our aggression. I wanted to be there for my fellow troops. But the best way was not to help drop artillery and cause more death and destruction. It is to help oppose this war and end it so that all soldiers can come home.”
Ehren Watada apparently sought in January to resign his commission, and later asked again and was denied.
Watada, who is not seeking conscientious objector status, but rather has moral objections to the Iraq war, faces the possibility of a court-martial, dishonorable discharge and several years in prison if he refuses the war orders.
According to the GI Rights Hotline, a conscientious objector has a deeply held moral, ethical or religious belief that it is wrong to kill another human being in war.
Some service members discover that opposition after joining the military, and are discharged, the organization said.
Watada doesn’t qualify as a conscientious objector because he does not oppose all wars.
Watada graduated from Hawaii Pacific University in 2003, joined the Army shortly after, went to Officer Candidate School, and incurred a three-year obligation.
The Hawaii man is with the 5th Battalion, 20th Infantry, at Fort Lewis. The unit is part of a larger 3,600-soldier Stryker brigade combat team similar to a unit being developed in Hawaii with about 300 eight-wheeled armored vehicles.
The Fort Lewis brigade is heading to Mosul in northern Iraq, and the soldiers are expected to leave this month and into July.
At a farewell ceremony on Friday, I Corps and Fort Lewis commander Lt. Gen. James Dubik, a former Schofield Barracks commander, said that of 299 million people in the United States, only 2.3 million serve in uniform to defend the nation, the Olympian newspaper reported.
“Less than 1 percent of the nation is carrying 100 percent of the burden of this war,” Dubik said.
But in a sign of increased opposition to the three-year-old Iraq war, anti-war activists demonstrated at the Port of Olympia after Stryker vehicles drove there for shipment, the Olympian reported.
Police used pepper spray on about 100 activists, and 22 people were arrested in one of the more volatile confrontations, the newspaper said.
Paterson, 38, who in 1990 alleged that the Gulf War was about profits and oil in the Middle East and sat down on the tarmac at Kaneohe Bay instead of boarding a transport, said he’s not sure of the number of Iraq or Afghanistan war objectors.
Cases that resulted in court-martial include a Navy sailor sentenced to three months of hard labor for refusing to board a ship headed to the Persian Gulf, a specialist in the National Guard given 120 days in a stand against fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a soldier sentenced to 15 months for refusing to deploy to Iraq a second time.
Robert Arakaki, the 83-year-old president of the 100th Infantry Battalion Veterans group, who saw combat in Italy in 1945, yesterday said Watada “owes the country a lot.”
There “should be some kind of good explanation” for why Watada wants out, he said, and Arakaki takes issue with claims of an immoral and illegal war.
“Who determines what is legal or illegal? Him or our government? Not him,” Arakaki said.
Retired Navy Cmdr. Jack Miller, past president of the Hawaii chapter of the Military Officers Association of America, said “there’s always been the problem of following orders. This time is no different.”
“Being a Vietnam veteran, we went through this,” said Miller, 72. “The rest of the load had to be shared by those willing to follow orders and serve their country.”
Dependable, loyal officers are needed, and “if one doesn’t fit that qualification, a bad apple will contaminate the barrel. He (Watada) should be punished in some way,” Miller said. “You don’t want someone over there in Iraq who’s not going to willingly follow orders. That’s dangerous.”
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Again, this just really doesn't bother me.
Having lived all over the world, I consider myself lucky to be here. I don't see this as a big deal. But then, that's me.
It doesn't matter when. sm
The bill is about when and not now, meaning NOW, prisoners taken in war are dealt with by us. The bill is about when Iraq becomes a full democracy and has nothing to do with who cares most about the soldiers. This just caught my eye on the menu because it is wrong headed. And, if it were true, the media would be headlining it. They aren't.
Makes ya wonder doesn't it? (NT)
:-(
She doesn't think we deserved 9/11. nm
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