The word "abortion" did not even exist....
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-27
In Reply to: where in the bible does it say - basketchick
when the Bible was written. The Bible is very clear on murder. The strict Hebrew translation of the word that has been translated as "kill" in "Thou shalt not kill" should actually be "Thou shalt not murder." The word means premeditated killing of another human being. Which is exactly what abortion is. Abortion kills the baby...equals murder. I don't know how you can be sure "plenty of it was going on during biblical times." But, if it was, the Bible was very clear on it. It was...and is...murder. Yes, it has been legalized but it does not change what it is. Just call it what it is. Yes, it kills the baby, and we don't care, the mother's need trumps the baby's right to life. That is the unvarnished truth of it.
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does this word exist, or is it made up?...nm
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I did not say oppression did not exist...
what I did say was that it would be worse had it not been for a lot of fed-up white Republicans, and history bears that out, if you would take the time to look at it.
And friend, whites are being oppressed as well. Any time you take race strictly (no matter what race) as the qualifier for ANYthing whether it be a job, a scholarship, being pulled over by a cop, etc...is WRONG. It is wrong for a black or Hispanic or Asian or whatEVER to be given a scholarship based strictly on race over a caucasian who is academically superior. Yep, WRONG. And it is WRONG for a cop to pull over someone strictly because they are black. Yep, WRONG. However, federal LAW mandates the educational and job discrimination, and in an effort to "make up" to blacks for oppression, now we oppress Caucasians? That is no more right. Federally imposed quotas? How is that RIGHT?
I don't know where "around here" is, but if you can prove people are not hiring qualified races other than Caucasian there is a federal remedy. And there certainly is not a federal remedy for not hiring someone who is caucasian because they are caucasian? You think that does not happen? Are YOU living in a bubble?
What I said was racism is wrong and I said that clearly. And that means it is wrong no matter WHAT race it is aimed at...black, white, yellow, red, or polka-dotted!! PERIOD.
So right you are. O will only allow MSNBC to exist...
to ask those tough presidential questions like boxers or briefs and what talking points would you like us to use today sir?
opportunities do exist for everyone...
some people just choose not to avail themselves of them. they prefer to have other people take care of them while they sit and do nothing but complain.
That doesn't even exist!!!
Stop watiching MSLSD and get a LIFE!!! You people are so stupid you are going to let this country be taking over by faciist socialists. Are you blind!!!
Christianity did not exist............. sm
in the name of Christianity until Jesus left this earth. (Acts 11:26). Homosexuality was defined as wrong long before that.
How much you want to bet these same problems will exist in 2008? nm
And do you have any basis that these allegations DO NOT exist?
And where do these "fresh" soldiers exist? Appalachia?
You seem to forget some of our troops have served 5 tours.......Army personnel are committing suicide at an alarming rate.....there is no draft....the whole premise for the war on Iraq was based on deceit.....can't you dig up some other reason to hate Obama? Your arguments are becoming less and less convincing...even though they have been transparent BS from the get go, IMHO.
Common sense does not exist with the dems
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If there already exist specific written policies
pertaining to personal workspace adornment (size, number and/or appropriateness of photographs, posters, banners, political content, sports memorabilia, etc.) then I would agree with you. If you don't like the policy, don't work there. Your office is not your personal gallery.
If the company doesn't want somebody hanging up a Soviet flag, then they're probably going to have to prohibit Old Glory as well.
However, if this is a policy formulated on the spur of the moment to appease a complainer, then I disagree. What's next? An Ohio State fan complaining about a Michigan pennant in the next cubicle?) Nor do I agree that new policies should be formulated after the fact to deal with an existing situation just because nobody foresaw it. If it's an important issue, then a rule should already cover it.
If this is a public area (waiting room/reception area) then I am sure the company must have had the foresight to write a standard regarding decor, since all visitors will see this. In my opinion, if it ain't covered in that policy, it should be okay.
Interesting that people voluntarily come to this country, going to considerable effort to get here, then so easily become offended and need special accommodations. What is it they don't understand about "liberty"? If an American coworker complained about the Ugandan flag in a neighboring workspace, there would be h*ll to pay! Disciplinary action against the complainer. Law suits! ACLU involvement! Paid leave and free counseling for the Ugandan employee to get over the trauma of the event!
You cannot type it word for word, just provide a link.
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With all due respect, I didn't bring up white racists (which I know exist), I was talking about s
the people who are zealous about white power and who will feel compelled to do something bad about a black president. I know it could go either way, but my post was stated because of the high probability that our next President will be black. I understand you completely when you say that there are white racists.
As for Louis Farrkhan, my college roommate was a member of the Nation of Islam and was so racist. She once told me that the reason white folks have those red dots in their eyes
when pictures are taken is because they are all evil and are satan's children. She truly believed that. It was very difficult living with her and I tried to get a transfer out of there, but couldn't and had to put up with A LOT of racism from this black woman. So, I know all about reverse racism.
Yes, the chips exist honey. I was speaking directly to the hysteria evoked
It shows a distinct lack of knowledge about the world and the peoples who inhabit it.
As to those that perpetuate this mythos...well, if you allow anyone to prey on your fears, you give them power over you. People need to investigate all sides of an issue, not just the perspective they agree with or the one spoonfed to them.
I remember the debate. And of course this is not word for word, I NEVER said...sm
*because I'm not.* This is a LIE that I got tired of arguing with them about then. Unless you are confusing me with an old poster that went under the moniker Demo.
Sambo thinks last word=best word...
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yep. Its Fox. Just googled it. word for word. nm
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Not one word. One defitinion of a word.
Cult: 1. A system of religious worship or ritual.
Or how about this:
Cult: A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
Or my personal favorite:
Cult: A self-identified group of people who share a narrowly defined interest or perspective.
At least he's using the O word
He's at least a little closer to the actual truth this time. How come no one important seems to care about all these changes in reasoning? Does anyone notice??? (Except us?)
There's that word again.
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With or without the *word*
I agree with the post. Thanks for posting it. I'm sorry this entire thread has been invaded by those who are only here to attack. They are showing their true colores, though. They want to control what eveyone reads, sees, speaks, thinks and which God they believe in. These boards are only a microcosm of the country, and they are quite representative of their party. The more they reveal their controlling selves here and places like this, hopefully, the more people will see it for what it is and finally feel they've had ENOUGH! For that reason, I personally hope they keep it up. 
When is the key word.
And when will it be? Bush has already admitted that solving this quagmire will be the responsibility of a future President. If we *stay the course,* any terrorist or insurgent would then be given a free pass to kill our American soldiers (brutally, like they did this morning) while these soldiers are trying to fight for the Iraqis. They scream and yell against amnesty for illegals who want to come here to work, but they're in favor of it if it involves our troops being killed.
HOW TWISTED IS THAT?!!
I'm grateful the majority of these Senators showed support for our troops and respect for their lives.
I have one word. sm
Bull.
N-Word
Regarding the definition you posted: “deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense,” I submit the following:
I think there is much ado about nothing here. Does anyone say the "C-word" when blacks refer to whites as "crackers?" I don't even bother finding that offensive. Again, political correctness. Such as one time I received an email saying "black" was ALWAYS capitalized but "white" was never capitalized. Fine with me. So if "black" is capitalized why is "white" never capitalized??? Black and white are colors, why should either be capitalized? Which, by the way is what the next QA person informed me of, as if I didn't already know that.
I have used the infamous "N-word" but never in connection with the color of a person's skin. I used the term exactly as described by Mr. Webster. Most usually I have used it to describe what we Caucasians would call "white trash" or people who have 50 cars up on jacks in their front yards. I grew up in a community where there were no blacks so I certainly grew up with no predjudice and I still have no predjudice. Black or white we are all God's children and one is no better, or worse, than the other. Not meant to be off topic, just to say that in my opinion, Obama should not be viewed as being "black" or "white." He should be judged based on his own merits, or lack thereof, as a human being. While I don't support him, I am probably less critical of him than I am of McCain.
but not without the last word, right? YOU...
are the one keeping the thread alive...can't resist that one more little twist of the knife. Grownup? I don't think so. Mob mentality? You bet. That has been well demonstrated here. Only thing missing is the pitchforks, torches and castle bridge. LOL. Sheesh.
Word up
Twelve more people dispatched by McCain to Alaska to further vet Palin (AFTER she was announced). Things not looking good. Speculation is that her name will be withdrawn. No communists are involved in the vetting.
In a word...Always. That is if you believe
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key word here is
SOME people are worth defending . . . (not all) Katrina deja vu. The true conservative mind unmasked. Thanks for the insight.
Well...but it is the last word.
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So, does anyone believe a word of
banks & the stock market? Instead of giving $700B to them, maybe some of it should go to helping Galveston & New Orleans.
The average Joe is gonna take a hit in this, either way. And, that being the case, I'd feel a lot better about all of us kissing our retirement goodbye, and most likely spending our old age on the government dole, if all those greedy fat-cats went down the toilet with us.
to last word sam - where did I say
I simply answered as to where they were when the vote was being taken.
You'd make a good politician with your constant need to always have the last word and manipulating every post you read.
In a word, yes.
It is apparent that the sanctions have not had the desired result as was their original intent. In fact, typically economic sanctions DO only end up hurting the populations of countries with dictatorial leadership...people who have little or no power affect change.
Another side to this coin would be the need for an attitude adjustment on the part of the US. I am referring to the notion that the US should be "toppling" the Castro brothers or any other regime not to our liking. Preserving our national security is a legitimate concern. Fomenting violent overthrow, bankrolling coupe d'tats, installing puppet governments that that carry out the shots we call....NOT. We are not in charge of the world and need to evolve into relationships based on peaceful coexistence, period.
How can anyone believe a word the man says....
why, how silly of me. Because they have walked the yellow brick road to the great and powerful "O." He counts on it.
I know the word has been used a lot but...that's SAD.
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In a word.......... sm
No. The middle class seems to be shrinking every day, and it does not appear to be migrating north into the rich class either. Like you, I am concerned for our future and whether I will even have a home this time next year.
Please don't take this as a Christian "rant" but last night during my prayers, I literally cried because I fear for the world that my sons will be going out into very soon. Their generation is going to have a very rocky start, much more so than we did and certainly much more than our parents did. I am also very concerned for my mother and all elderly people like her. Will she be able to continue buying her medication, even with Medicare and supplement insurance? This month, she fell in the donut hole and had to pay for part of her medications from her own pocket to the tune of some $400. Her monthly income is only just over $900.
I'm currently paying 11.75% on my home mortgage because it was taken out when interest rates were quite high and my credit is less than stellar. I have asked numerous times, in light of reduced interest rates, for it to be dropped, but the company is not willing to do that. I've been paying on it for 12 years now and I think I might own the back door.
I still hope and pray that our nation can turn around and get back on the road to prosperity for all, but I think about the Great Depression and what it took for this nation to right itself and experience prosperity once again. I don't think I am ready for another World War to happen in order for that to take place.
Everyone is in a tight place now. Even the rich are beginning to "suffer," although I have little to no pity for them as their suffering, while it does impair their lifestyles, is nothing compared to what is going on with the rest of the nation.
Sorry to be a downer this morning, but it's time we "prepare for the worst and hope for the best." It's going to be a long, hard haul back to the top.....if we ever make it.
In a word, no.
Republicans who constantly try to impede the President-Elect and his administration in their attempts to tackle the the wasteland that W is leaving in his dust will only end up digging their own graves. These lame transparent baseless smears are as transparent as Saran Wrap and only end up revealing the ignorance of those who propagate them. Keep up the good work. It is about as effective as the failed campaign that has left this party in shambles.
It's so much more than just one word..(sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqiPrRG5lNU&feature=related
I think the word you are looking for is.....sm
presumptuous.
I find it rather self-serving of Obama to expect to move into the Blair House before it is available. Events at this house are scheduled months in advance and Mr. Bush was well within his rights as PRESIDENT to turn down Obama's request.
Why does Obama think the earth spins around him?
I think maybe the word you were looking for...(sm)
was "confusing," not "deceiving." Obama was very clear in laying this out time and time again. Youtube is full of videos of his speeches and debates. You might want to browse through them. What is deceiving though are posts like the one you just did.
In a word.................. sm
Yes. On both counts. If the rapist has a true salvation in Christ and the Jew does not .
Friend, you are more than pragmatic. You are hedging a bet that you are bound to lose if you don't accept Christ. It is as simple as that.
And the MSM never said a word about...
The 2 soldiers killed by a
"recent convert" to Islam in a drive-by shooting, but trumpeted how George Tiller was such a fine man cut down in the prime of life.
OMG, you used the word Christian! SM
Run!!!!! By the way, I totally agree. But they have to give it little names like fetus and things to keep from admitting it is a human being that God has helped create. Whatever floats their boat.
I don't think threatened is the word. SM
I think disturbed covers it better. You and Libby with your screaming posts. What's up with that?
the word should be *brought*
my fingers have a mind of their own...
take Mrs. Tillmans word?
She is his MOTHER. Why would she make that up? His friends in the army have also said the same. This is just another example of Bush propaganda. The Tillman family cant even get a true report on how and why he died. Take Mrs. Tillmans word for it? Ill take hers over the administration when it comes to her son. :)
I believe I used the word *present*. nm
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Do we have a different definition for the word lie?nm
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I don't doubt one word you say.
Especially considering Bush's fondness of scare tactics. I don't know if she drinks or not (I've often thought she looked, sounded and acted drunk), which makes me wonder if she might have one too many someday and spill the beans. Either way, she doesn't seem like a very stable person.
I'm sorry about your career. You weren't one of those CIA whistle blowers, were you? We've all seen, through this administration at leas, that honesty in government is a big no-no, and if anyone tries to divulge their dirty tricks, they're lives are destroyed.
A word on history.
Whatever it is that is being discussed concering global conflicts, when using history to clarify, define, explain, prove, whatever...I always try to remember that history has always been written and interpreted by the victor.
A word about choice
I think we have probably said all that we can say on that matter, and we won't agree, but I enjoyed speaking with you.
I just want to add a word about women who support choice. It seems that many people are quick to judge a woman that supports choice, stating that she must have had an abortion or would be willing to have one. I can only speak for myself, a few friends, and family members, but I can tell you that in our case, this it entirely not true. My sister always states that she is, Personally conservative, but politically liberal. I do have a few friends who had had abortions, but I do not believe that I could ever have one myself, and though I would stand by my daughter if that was a choice she made, I would be devastated inside. So, while this is not a choice I would make, I will still support the right to choose for other women. In an ideal world, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, but until there is, I will always stand for choice.
Peace.
A word about choice...
And I enjoy talking with you. It is good to discuss opposing viewpoints without anger and condescencion. We will have to agree to disagree. There is so much more to this than just abortion. As I have said, and as I will continue to say, when we as a nation begin to devalue life at any stage, we are on a slippery slope headed downward. And to start that devaluation with the most innocent and helpless among us...is horrifying to me. The idea of murdering captive child in utero is absolutely horrifying to me. As I said, I will follow the law of the land, and just because some wingnuts have blown up clinics and shot doctors does not mean that all people of faith believe that. I believe it is wrong to do that and I would have no part of that. However, I will continue to call it what I believe it is, and that is murder. And in the end, the women who choose abortion and the doctors who perform them will have to answer for that one day, not to you or me, but to God.
God bless!
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