If you prefer your pols to speak AND THINK in sound bites, then W's your man!
Posted By: Melissa on 2005-10-07
In Reply to: Read it and weep, my friends. - Gore, the articulate...see msg
you've gotten exactly what you deserve. It's unfortunate for the rest of us -- those who can process whole ideas -- that we got what you deserve as well.
Al Gore is a brillliant, articulate, experienced politician who speaks the truth. This oountry is a train wreck. Intelligent, thoughtful public discourse has been replaced by jingoism. A president spouting platitudes and repeating the same refrains over and over again in answer to serious issues brought us the debacle that is Iraq and the tragic spectacle of the Superdome after Katrina.
I'm pretty sure that what I have to say is going to go over the heads of some of the posters on this board, because it's your fear of real ideas that got us where we are.
LINK/URL: Slate.com analysis of Bush's latest speech
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- If you prefer your pols to speak AND THINK in sound bites, then W's your man! - Melissa
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I agree. How many people listen to sound bites, read just the headlines, or
listen to the partisan radio/TV personalities, and then go out and make up their minds. It only takes 10 minutes to visit a candidate's website and read their campaign platform. People need to stop expecting to be spoonfed information and take some initiative in this process.
I heard someone condemning Senator Obama's speech yesterday. He was simply repeating as fact something a conservative media personality had said. This person had not listened to the speech nor read a transcript of it. He had simply let someone else make up his mind for him.
Another one bites the dust...(sm)
Gov. Sanford --- he just took off to write something ---- no, he went hiking ---- no, he went to Atlanta --- no, he went for a more exotic trip to S. America --- no, he went to see his mistress......
Yet another "family values" senator apologizing for an affair.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31529077#31529077
reality bites very hard...be aware....
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Here we go again....another campaign promise bites the dust...
Obama Not Closing Door on Possible Health Tax
Referring to proposals to tax workers who get expensive insurance policies, Obama, who campaigned against the tax last year, said, "I don't want to prejudge what they're doing."
The unions are going to flip over that one...taxing of benefits. Benefits are the backbones of unions and their power over their members. Has it finally sunk in people...you cannot believe a word this man says. He lies as easily as the rest of us breathe. And the amazing thing is....it works for him. Blinded by the obamalight. lol.
I prefer Olive Oil myself. Anyone? NM
What term would you prefer? I am sure you have
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Neighborhood I would prefer
Well, the one I would prefer I can't afford but that ain't the rich guys fault. We live within our means and don't blame everyone else. I ain't a hate all rich people kind of person. Those RICH people you so detest employ people who actually work for a living. Who do you think the folks you know would be working for if not someone with money to start/open/run a business?
Would you prefer he receive a
declaration of war from these leaders? He can't possibly be responsible for RECEIVING letters from people. This is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but fan the flames of hate and fear. Please open the link I provided and look at the graphs. George W. Bush has completely destroyed any trust, respect or credibility the United States once had. The WORLD wants a leader they can trust. The WORLD simply doesn't trust the Republicans after eight years of Bush. Open the link and see for yourself.
And the thread you started above is simply false. Public service will NOT be mandatory. He's trying to bring back a "Peace Corps" style attitude to America and wants to REWARD those who CHOOSE to perform community service with help paying for their college tuition. The rich kids can still float through and don't have to do anything, but the poorer families -- and they are increasing in the USA every day with every job lost -- are offered a way to help pay for college tuition. That's hardly sinister.
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country" used to hold a positive meaning in this country.
Maybe some Americans have gotten too greedy and spiteful for those words to mean anything today, but they still hold meaning for many of us. 
I think I would prefer Germany,
Austria, Greece, or maybe even Moldova.
I would prefer to teach my
child about it and explain to them that even though this lifestyle is not acceptable, they are people too and we should not treat them poorly. If parents don't teach their children and they bully gay people, dorks, dweebs, smelly kids, etc........the school has every right to punish them for acting that way whether it be writing sentences over and over, calling the parents, etc. You do not have to single out homosexuality and teach this to children as an example of tolerance.
Besides, I said below that on the news they keep talking about how same sex marriage is more accepted by people.....particularly younger people and yet here you are saying that this should be taught in schools because younger people aren't tolerant? So which is it?
You're being rude and obnoxious and I prefer to not
who simply doesn't "get it."
If you feel that invading Iraq is protecting our borders with Mexico, then you are direly in need of a geography course.
Buh-bye.
I simply prefer not to post here. SM
I have a hectic and stressful enough life as it is, as many MTs do. I don't know anything about the other issue. I use to go to MTDaily and there was always trouble there with the ISP thing and their own prejudice. So I don't go there anymore. I suggest that might be an option for you if you feel the way you do.
I prefer to think of them as straight thinkers.
Because, unlike you and others on this board, they understand and realise the dangers we face and have chosen to not make it political. Theirs is not a blind Bush loyalty, much as yours is a blind Bush hatred. That virulent malignant hatred has put all of this fine country, not my own, but fine nonetheless, at great risk. Somehow, despite contrary facts that are palpably clear in the historic record, American and European leaders have managed to convince themselves and the world that the most terrible wars of the 20th century occurred because nations didn’t do enough talking to resolve their differences when, in fact, they occurred because shortsighted, peace-minded leaders (think Jimmy Carter) allowed good intentions and wishful thinking to take the place of an accurate assessment of the identity and intentions of their adversaries. Unless the West adapts more quickly than do canny Islamic terrorists in this constantly evolving war, cease your internecine fighting and stop forgetting what we’ve learned about our enemies—there will be disasters to come far worse than Sept. 11. Sometimes I believe you almost wish for it. I might also add that your incessant q/Bush lied/q mantra is no defense for your actions. But we do know, especially after events in Lebanon and the foiled British bomb plot, that we’re in a war in which failure is not an option and for which repeating ‘Bush lied’ is not a strategy. Americans will not put in power a party that accepts the proposition that global warming is a greater threat than terrorism, that thinks Wal-Mart is a plague on the poor and that wants to repeal the job-creating, economy-boosting and deficit-cutting Bush tax cuts. They will not put in power a party that thinks death is a taxable event and that success should be punished. They will not pass the reins to a party that denies us access to energy reserves offshore and in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge and which thinks energy independence means building windmills and hugging caribou. If you want your party to win, stop the constant litany of complaints, with which this board is riddled, and do something constructive. A litany of complaints is not a strategy.
I would prefer her as HIS running mate, but...
I would be fairly happy with either! I have mixed feelings about Hillary, but like I've said, I'm sure she would do a fine job. I just happen to reeeeally prefer Obama.
and you would prefer what, that he say, yes, I am a rock star
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I'd prefer someone less prone to lying.
Not saying that MO doesn't either. Just saying I would like the First Lady to be more truthful.
I said I prefer to wait for the investigation and
Letting an official process play itself out is what open-minded, objective people do before they make judgments.
Americans prefer O tax plan
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/27/despite-cnn-distortion-americans-prefer-obama-tax-plan/
I prefer Muslims to Christians!
I find the Muslims I know to be well educated, polite, family oriented, and very gentle people. I cannot say the same for the Christians I have met. This is based on my own personal experience, so there is no need for flaming from the right-wing Christian fanatics.
I would prefer that the government not tear down
even dishonest citizens.
I'd sure prefer lobster to crow. LOL n/m
I prefer my jokes to be funny.
Nothing funny about that post. The only way to describe it is pathetic.
Most of us grownups would prefer to skip the HM
get down to business.
and I prefer the ganja green tea.....nm
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I prefer Ron Paul..........over Obama or anyone else
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Would you prefer Obama's arena be less than it was in Germany?
The guy has a great audience and my only fear was he would take on the black agenda when our country if falling apart - There is so much to do.
Yeah, give the man a stage that at least is proportionate to foreign countries' stage given to an American politician. Geesh.
I didn't see crowds gather for anyone else. When a crowd that size gathers for a person, they can have any darn stage set they want. As they deserved it.
Not 'spoiled & lazy' just prefer not to live in their
I prefer the definition of economic meltdown.
Ignore it and your campaign will go down in flames.
I prefer to strengthen the Independent Party
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I prefer to keep my focus on the positive measures
give the process a chance to unfold. Had enough of the prophets of doom.
You would prefer he not have staff on day 1? Or have a plan of action? sm
He has done nothing that previous Presidents-elect have not done in the days between election and inauguration.
Perhaps you would prefer the "original" I got prior to my editing.....
The Little Red Hen called all of her Democrat neighbors together and said, 'If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?'
'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen, and so she did. The wheat grew very tall and ripened into golden grain.
'Who will help me reap my wheat?' asked the little red hen.
'Out of my classification,' said the pig.
'I'd lose my seniority,' said the cow.
'I'd lose my unemployment compensation,' said the goose.
'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen, and so she did.
At last it came time to bake the bread.
'Who will help me bake the bread?' asked the little red hen.
'That would be overtime for me,' said the cow.
'I'd lose my welfare benefits,' said the duck.
'I'm a dropout and never learned how,' said the pig.
'If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination,' said the goose.
'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen.
She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, 'No, I shall eat all five loaves.'
'Excess profits!' cried the cow. (Nancy Pelosi)
'Capitalist leech!' screamed the duck. (Barbara Boxer)
'I demand equal rights!' yelled the goose. (Jesse Jackson)
The pig just grunted in disdain. (Ted Kennedy)
And they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.
Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, 'You must not be so greedy.'
'But I earned the bread,' said the little red hen.
'Exactly,' said Barack the farmer. 'That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle.'
And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, 'I am grateful, for now I truly understand.'
But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established.
Individual initiative had died, but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared...so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for.
Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs.
Hillary got $8 million for hers.
That's $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years, repeatedly testified, under oath, that they couldn't remember anything.
IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT?
I prefer the Dorothy Parker version
(Look it up, they prolly would not let me use the words here....)
I prefer watching re-runs of Colin Powell's
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Exactly. Some people prefer sticking their fingers in their ears to
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Does this sound like more of the same or what?
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you sound no different than what men say...
I have no idea where you even got: Take pot shots at her skills or work history, but how can you possibly rip on her for having a career and children.
- so any woman who does not work and raises children which is probably THE most important job, they are beneath you?
and then this: Do you want us all barefoot, pregnant, and waiting on Ward hand and foot again?
ROTFL - who are you responding to?
You know, you may not mean to, but you sound...
supremely arrogant. You don't know me and you have ballooned something simple into something ridiculous.
Number one...I was not clear on the Infants born Alive Act, because the Infants Born Alive bill DID pass on the federal level..and I did lobby my congresspeople to vote for it, which they did, so obviously most of their constituents wanted them to pass it. Most people don't even know it went to the federal level and was passed. Nobody got up and announced that either...but I was following it. I follow those kinds of things, and believe me, locally people knew about it too. Most pro life groups knew about it. I was informed about in via email because I am in touch with pro life groups. So, again, please do not act like you know who I am or what I believe in or stand up for. Because you don't. And, by the way, Obama did not "weigh in" on the federal bill. I still find his stand on it in Illinois callous to the enth degree and his morality and decision making process, in MY opinion, are seriously lacking.
So, thankfully, no more babies piling up, unless of course he repeals the law when he becomes President. I would not put it past him.
Again, you might not mean to sound like you are on a high horse, but that is the way you come off.
As to looking to come out clean...all I said, and all I MEANT was: I am so opposed to Barack Obama, and everything I believe he stands for, that I will not be party to his getting into the white house in any way, shape or form. I campaign locally against him, I volunteer at the McCain offices, and will do whatever I can to prevent his being elected. Including not voting for him myself. BUT..if he IS elected...and the economy and this country take the road I think they will take...I will not have the added burden of regretting voting for him and giving him the power to hose this country. THAT has NOTHING to do with coming out clean in a mess.
You sound like me!!!
Our fridge is a Montgomery-Ward (no idea how old it is, but it still works). The stove has pilot lights - my mom's stove is over 20 years old and has electronic ignition. We have crap well water, too. Turns everything orange. God knows what's in it besides iron. We haul water from my family's homes 2 hours away every time we visit, for cooking and drinking. My husband and I had the bare minimum to start up with, so, I go to Salvation Army or Goodwill to buy household goods - glasses, casserole dishes, table cloths, etc. It's not MADE IN CHINA. It's good old fashioned stuff that has "character." And at the same time I am recycling and giving back to the community (screw Wal-Mart). I could care less about material crap. I do have a newer vehicle (Scion xB 2008) - but I needed something dependable to get me back and forth to help care for my dying father. My husband can't change a lightbulb and my old car was nickle and diming me to death. Most of my money goes to groceries, too. Now you have me craving crab legs.........
Nothing but the sound of crickets....
I got this from the conservative board, one of their faves. Tee-hee.
You sound so sexist.
or not. You can still be predjucial against others, and you obviously have problems with women.
You sound like a kindergarner
You come by here and make little snips, not really saying anything, just trolling. If you have something to add, please say it, but try to act like a grownup.
yes, you sound simple.
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Feel better now? You sound
awfully miserable in your skin...
Just how stupid can you sound?
Who the h@ll cares if this guy is license or not? He's not the running for president....I believe that is Obama, the person that is supposed to have questions asked of him. You afraid to have Obama answers questions that haven't be scripted beforehand? I'm sure you are, now that he was actually heard saying spread the wealth. He actually lost votes after that. His true colors are not out there for everyone to see.
Not sure why you feel so bitter that you name call a guy who was just standing in the crowd asking a question. I find it rather humerous that O lovers suddenly start attacking a citizen for asking a simple question of the very "policies" O is spewing out there. Man, ya'll must be desperate!
You don't sound educated because
of some of your posts below.
You sound so full of yourself
bust a gut at any moment, so could be all that mountain biking has been in vain and instead your perfectly proportioned bod is bloated with bull.
Your OP is a good example why there is a difference between those folks you claim to hang with and the ones here who have to endure the cesspool that those types of remarks turn this forum into on a minute-by-minute basis.
You missed the point of the other post. Here's a hint. It was not about chili dogs and cheese and going gaga over Obama, but you were in such a hurry to try to be cute while you post your disgust, you didn't notice.
I too would like to suggest that it might be a good idea to at least CONSIDER keeping your pot shot drive by negative snipes to yourself every now and then.
Do you realize how you sound?
It does no good to call others names- it only makes you look bad. So sorry many on here so outraged because the other guy and his side-kick, whatever that person's name was from Alaska is, did not make it but we have chosen the correct leader. To say the president who left kept us safe is laughable- remember 9/11? Who was the president then? I rest my case.
You sound just like Tom Cruise
saying 'I know the history of psychiatry. YOU don't know the history of psychiatry.' and then yammering on and on about Scientology.
Look straight into the light. Don't turn away. Don't blink........
It did sound like rubbish, however....
The original post sounded a bit out there, but I can't agree with your view of the job situation picking up. Their numbers reflect less people losing their jobs in the most recent months, but the overall unemployment numbers suck. What I'm saying is, while less people lost their jobs in March, it doesn't mean the people who lost their jobs in December, January and February found work. There are job markets that do better in the spring and summer seasons, but overall, the job market does not look good.
I said SOUND laws..
Giving women the right to vote WAS A SOUND LAW. I think someone has missed their naptime.
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