Incoming junior senator from Illinois Burris more qualified/more experience than Obama...
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just the facts, ma'am.
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The junior senator is going to owe A LOT of
favors should he be elected. He has been groomed by the Chicago political machine for this position and his many associates will expect their due. He can give very eloquent, enthusiastic speeches, have millions listen to him, rally around him and accept his word as truth, much like many of the dictators of the last century. Socialism is on the way and most people are turning a blind eye to it.
When he was the honorable senator from Illinois...
Amnesty is the largest of these rewards and gives illegal aliens a path to citizenship or makes them instantly legal. Senator Barack Obama voted in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.
Senator Barack Obama has voted in favor of giving illegal aliens further rewards and other incentives to come such as in-state tuition, educational benefits, welfare and health care services.
As have most of the members of his party. And they do it because they want their votes...heck if you were in this country illegally and one of the parties was for giving you everything but the kitchen sink, wants you to be allowed to vote, etc....wouldn't YOU vote for them???
No, I don't blame him personally...although he has to take personal credit since he voted for it...I blame the PARTY. For you to deny it is, in your words...UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE. But then all the Obama worshippers are pretty unfreakinbelievable...sigh.
Obama not qualified??
SInce you state he is NOT qualified....AND YOU ARE??
Oh, and Obama is more qualified? Please
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Congratulations to Senator Obama.
My heartiest congratulations to Senator Obama and to Senator Clinton for her campaign, and for quickly meeting with him this evening to discuss unifying the party.
I believe that the torch has been passed to the next generation of American citizens, with their high hopes and wonderful ideas for the future of this country, a future that includes all races and genders, and the potential of a better future for all of us.
Again my congratulations to Senator Obama!
95.71% match for Senator Obama.
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Maybe Senator Obama believes in following the
"First Admendment" to the Constitution of the United States.
yeah, and Obama isn't qualified to be in the top
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Palin is just as qualified as Obama anyway.
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Palis is more qualified than OBAMA even is!
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I suppose you think Obama IS qualified?
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Obama Rated the Most Liberal Senator
We're talking even more liberal than Ted Kennedy! Hillary talks about the "good" of the people. That's a Socialist quote, but no surprise there.
McCain is a "Maverick" for going to the other side. That's literally changing parties. And how about that famous temper? When have the Dems gone to the "other side?" The only exception is (surprisingly) Diane Feinstien, who is appalled by the Compeon & Ramos border patrol agents, who have been put in shackles & solitary. Compeon was beaten badly as well, and was never treated.
"W" has been a disappointment as well, but he's not a conservative, either. At least he's pro-life & pro-military, so I;ll give him that. Check out www.eyesontheborder.com
I've never missed an election, but I'm simply in a huge quandry, as NONE of these candidates are worthy of running our wonderful country. The only option is to vote for conservative Reps.
Also, nowhere in the Constition states voting on various dates. All voters should be able to vote on the same date. My state didn't get the option of choosing my "preferred candidate!"
Google this & you'll learn the facts.
NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate ...
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Senator Obama was a paid employee,
community organizer. He did not do this on a volunteer basis.
I wish the best of luck to our incoming president...sm
President Barack Obama.
I want to take the high road, and give him the chance he deserves, without all the pettiness and prejudice I see displayed against our current, outgoing president.
I wish the best to you all on this board, as well, both left and right, and all in between.
I wish the best for our country, and that includes President Obama.
I wish him well, and hope he is guided well on his path and his choices for our country.
She has as much experience as Obama....
and she is second chair, not first chair. We get Obama's experience level in first chair. This argument really doesn't hold water. No wanting to start a fight...but she actually has experience running a state. He doesn't. So actually...she has more experience than he does. Don't really think, and I mean no disrespect...the no experience thing holds water.
Here's an article I found on Burris
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/02/burris-now-acknowledges-fundraising-effort-for-blagojevich.html
Sorry, but Obama has a lifetime of experience
next to this moose-stew-loving chick! WT*?! What was he thinking when he chose her?! Obviously, not about this country and what happens if she needed to takeover!
Obama's take on his own executive experience...
Obama: Running campaign counts as executive experience
Tuesday September 2, 2008
Talk about resume padding! He compares his experience running a campaign (which, btw should come as a surprise to his campaign manager) with her experience as mayor and totally ignores her experience as governor and Cooper lets him get away with it.
COOPER: And, Senator Obama, my final question -- your -- some of your Republican critics have said you don't have the experience to handle a situation like this. They in fact have said that Governor Palin has more executive experience, as mayor of a small town and as governor of a big state of Alaska.
What's your response?
OBAMA: Well, you know, my understanding is, is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We have got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year.
You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month.
So, I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute, I think, has been made clear over the last couple of years. And, certainly, in terms of the legislation that I passed just dealing with this issue post-Katrina of how we handle emergency management, the fact that many of my recommendations were adopted and are being put in place as we speak, I think, indicates the degree to which we can provide the kinds of support and good service that the American people expect.
Maybe he should practice this response a little more before he plants it with another reporter.
BTW, Hot Air has the unedited transcript if you are interested in how he really sounded when he answered the question. He is quite liberal in his use of "uh." For someone with a reputation of being articulate, he sure uses a lot of them.
Update: Here's the McCain campaign's response:
"For Barack Obama to argue that he's experienced enough to be president because he's running for president is desperate circular logic and it's laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama's inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin's executive experience managing a budget of over 10 billion dollar dollars, and more than 24,000 employees." --Tucker Bounds, spokesman John McCain 2008
16 presidents with less experience than Obama...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html
1. Abraham Lincoln,
2. FDR
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. Woodrow Wilson
5. John Adams
6. Grover Cleveland
7. Ronald Reagan
8. Howard Taft
9. Bill Clinton
10. George Bush
11. Chester A. Arthur
12. Herbert Hoover
13. Jimmy Carter
14. Benjamin Harrison
15. Ulysses S. Grant
16. William Harrison
BTW, I do not make such important decisions as selecting a president based on YouTube sound bytes, so no, I did not bother with the video. My vote is between me and my candidate, based on exactly the things I listed in the previous post, which I stand by 100%.
He has more experience than Obama in foreign policy and that cannot...
be disputed. He did add that with Joe Biden; however, I still say it will look odd to foreign leaders if Biden goes to all his meetings with him. McCain can instill any number of advisors and/or his VP pick to help where he lacks in knowledge of the economy. Frankly, I would rather have the economy knowledge in the second chair than the foreign policy knowledge. Because if we get pulled into a confrontation with someone who we know for sure unequivocally DOES have nukes...well, you get my drift.
McCain does not plan to stay at war for 100 years. That was taken completely out of context and not what he said at all. What he said was that there could be an American presence there for 100 years in the form of bases. There are American bases all over the world. We still have bases in Germany and that war has been over for what...60 years or more? If the world lasts 100 years past WWII, those bases will still be there. THAT is what McCain was talking about. Not staying at war for 100 years. We have bases in South Korea, and that war has been over for 50+ years.
I could start pulling out all the Obama quotes but his followers don't care. I have never seen such a group myopic view about one individual. It seems like if he got up on a podium and said I really don't plan to do anything I say I will do, I am just like all the politicians before me, they would chant back "we don't care, we don't care, we don't care." Such is blind devotion. This goes way past a politician and party members.
How do you know McCain has no plans to help Americans through hard times? I can tell you one thing that should not be done is impose harsher taxes on the small family businesses in this country who employ a lot of people. All that does is either cause those companies to go offshore or fold, and then you have even more unemployed and add to the government ticket. But oh...what am I thinking. That is what Democrats want. The more beholden people are to the government, the better Democrats like it. When I say Democrats, I mean the Democratic party hierarchy. I do NOT lump all Democrats together and demonize the whole group as other posters here tend to do with Republicans. Even lump Independents in with the Republicans because they are "not Democrats." That is a decidedly unDEMOcratic attitude, unAmerican attitude. One would surmise the socialism thing is already working...well of course it is. How many times in the speech did we hear tax the rich and the disappearing middle class? Class socialism...redistribute that wealth.
Show us how her experience is "more" than Obama's.
Nothing wrong with serving local community, but never hurts to serve yourself while you're at it. Thing is, other than showing how squeaky clean she is and playing into the public perception of government corruption, what exactly did she do for the PEOPLE in the community?
Of course she pro-life. Of course she is against gay marriage. Anything less would have spelled political suicide for McCain, especially after all the uproar from the right when he was considering one of his own maverick choices…Tom Ridge. Towing party line ..despicable in democrats, according to you, but GREAT when the republicans do it. Double standards do not enhance one's credibility.
She got rid of him, all right, along 35 of his appointees (she was one among them). Just wondering on what grounds they were all fired. Guilt by association, perhaps? Like the poster said, beware the woman scorned.
Don't have to be careful about the lack of experience issue. McCain has killed that one by his own hand. Careful, Sam, your bias is showing again. By what stretch of the imagination does 8 years serving a tiny Alaska community and less than 2 years as governor with no identifiable benefit to the voters who put her there constitute more experience than 7 years as a state senator, 3 war on terrorism years in the US senate, and a successful bid for the party nomination for the highest office in the land (a position of popular mandate, NOT selection by one man)? Holds plenty of water now, thanks to your #1 chair. Enlighten us, please.
Service to the people? What programs here directly served her citizens instead of her own personal agenda? Slashing funds for local construction projects? Where's the meat here? Ethics clean-up her main claim to fame? She's going to have to come out and play with the big boys now. Whistelblowing not likely to win her any Miss Congeniality contests in DC. How many of us "little people" want her to be on the other end of that 3 a.m. phone call? What's will she do, tell them to go clean their house? Pitiful.
Yeah, Obama's executive experience
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Roland Burris aknowledes trying to raise money for Blago
He claimed there was nothing going on but he just dropped the bombshell as O was speaking stating he can recall 6 different contacts and is now under investigation.
Guess he's gonna be gone. He may have committed perjury.
Still in junior high?
Be gone.
Regressive right = junior high
This was just so highly amusing, I couldn't resist I had to share. I hope it makes you smile, it did me!
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/21/5933/
I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
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I recall junior high being full of tattle-tales.
Speak for yourself.
No, but Illinois citizens are so used to corrupt
even this guy has suddenly made them stand up and take notice...... what a sorry crook! He'd probably sell his mother for a buck.
That was in his Illinois senate term...
this one was in the US Senate. Yeah, he shows up for the important votes like against the Infant Born Alive Act...twice...and now we find out FOR the bridge to nowhere and AGAINST Katrina victims. Still makes me question his judgments and his priorities. Sorry, that is the way I see it.
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Illinois isn't the only state with political fraud
The U.S. Attorney brought a case against former Sen. Vince Fumo of PA. He was found guilty today of 137 counts of corruption! They are holding the bail hearing now to see if he should go straight to jail. Even the governor was supoened to testify.
Sure wish they would start an investigation against him, too, as he probably did the same things, especially with the way he takes care of only certain groups. Hope this link works.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20090316_Fumo_judge_allows_Twittering_juror_to_stay_on_panel_.html
My source is the Illinois State Legislature. Gee, do they have a TV show?
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I stand corrected. It was the Illinois Abortion Act of 1975.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1928&ChapAct=720%C2%A0ILCS%C2%A0510/&ChapterID=53&ChapterName=CRIMINAL+OFFENSES&ActName=Illinois+Abortion+Law+of+1975.
The (Illinois) Born Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ207.107
Many repubs voting for Obama in my experience..OR NOT VOTING ..only
only a few stragglers left, like the 26 percent who don't hate Bush.
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Senator Santorum
Senator Santorum said if gay marriage is allowed, it will lead to bestiality!!!! Now that is one sick mind..How can anyone equate two humans loving each other with bestiality? Crazy times in crazy America.
thank you senator clinton!
for backing Obama:
http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vbXkuYmFyYWNrb2JhbWEuY29tL3RoYW5rc19teXNwYWNl
How did he become a Senator then? Did no know look into his background then?
Supposedly he is being called a terrorist, Muslim and is involved with all of these organizations, so I do not understand why and how he has been allowed to serve our government???? Did no one care about all of this when he was elected?????
VT, Socialist Senator
Bernie Sanders. Isn't that special?
Senator Boxer
Did anyone else get a laugh out of this? I thought it was pretty dumb and haughty of her. I mean it's not like the general was trying to degrade her...they are trained from day one to ma'am and sir everyone. Shoot my cousin's the same age as me and he ma'ams me! LOL (he's Navy.)
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There are too many other qualified people
No on Hillary. She should be allowed no where near the white house. There are way so many other people out there that are qualified. She is not. And if your husband is impeached he too should not be allowed anywhere near the white house. All Barack needs is to be constantly looking over his shoulder trying to figure out what those two are up to.
PALIN is more qualified? Of course she is, but
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Biden is even less qualified.......sm
the only thing he can say without screwing it up is "HI! I'm Joe Biden!!!"
I know - how silly that we should know whether he is qualified.
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She is more than qualified, so what is the problem?
At least Nancy Pelosi spends her time constructively rather than just spewing hatred and anger like some people.
Don't let your pets anywhere near Senator FrankenFrist
First he adopts the animals, promises to love and take care of them, waits for them to trust him and then ZAPS them. Not far afield from the Republican MO we've seen for the last six years.
I think we should force all politicians to undergo a PET scan of sorts -- an in-depth history of how they have treated animals during their lifetimes. I find this to be deplorable. Makes me wonder how Bush might have treated animals in his past, as well.
Ironic how someone who is clearly devoid of a heart be drawn to cardiology, but I guess that's where the big bucks are.
http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060612/COLUMNIST0101/606120346/1092/NEWS
Kitty-killer label litters Frist resume for president
Published: Monday, 06/12/06
There's a potential pothole in U.S. Sen. Bill Frist's road to the White House: He's a confessed kitty killer.
He fessed up in his 1989 book, Transplant, to adopting cats from shelters when he was in medical school, treating them like pets for a while, and then using them in his research experiments. Maybe in hindsight, Trent Lott should have seen it coming.
To his credit, the future senator wrote that it was a heinous and dishonest thing to do.
Last week, Frist started shopping around a new memoir to New York and Tennessee publishers. Here's the burning question: How will he spin the cat tale?
It came up in Tennessee's 1994 Republican primary, when Frist faced five opponents for the nomination. It was Chattanooga's Bob Corker (he's in a similar cat fight for Frist's seat now) who tried to inflame the feline furor. Corker sent beef-and-bacon-flavored
9 Lives Cat Treats to reporters and put out a press release saying Frist had lost the Garfield vote.
It was a short-lived local story that briefly flared in the national press. Yes, what Frist did was odd and rather icky, but he also saved a lot of lives as a heart surgeon. The kitty killer charges were widely dismissed, and Frist won the primary.
But running a national race is a different animal from running a statewide one. He'd better have an answer ready on the cat thing before he can even think about winning the GOP nomination. Running for president requires candidates to dump out their underwear drawer for all to see, answer questions about what color eye shadow their prom date wore, and explain any cross word ever said to their dry cleaner.
In other words, it'll be brutal.
Bet Frist wishes now he'd refrained from giving out too much information in his first book. He made his case in Transplant for saving lives by learning through experiments with animals while at Harvard. It's the part where he kept them as pets first that is bothersome.
Desperate, obsessed with my work, I visited the various animal shelters in the Boston suburbs, collecting cats, taking them home, treating them as pets for a few days, then carting them off to the lab to die in the interests of science. And medicine. And health care. And treatment of disease. And my project.
It was, of course, a heinous and dishonest thing to do, and I was totally schizoid about the entire matter. By day, I was little Billy Frist, the boy who lived on Bowling Avenue in Nashville and had decided to become a doctor because of his gentle father and a dog named Scratchy. By night, I was Dr. William Harrison Frist, future cardiothoracic surgeon, who was not going to let a few sentiments about cute, furry little creatures stand in the way of his career. In short, I was going a little crazy.
Frist recently commented about the power he felt when holding the last beats of a dog's heart in his hand. Good thing little Scratchy had a decent hiding place while Frist was in med school.
This will be media catnip. Think of the potential for protests and endorsements. A Saturday Night Live skit would be a no-brainer: Toonces, look out! It's the kitty-killing gentlemen from the state of Tennessee!
Maybe Frist should title his coming memoir Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
Because, as Big Daddy would say, there's great potential here for mendacity. And he better get ready to dance on some hot shingles.
Published: Monday, 06/12/06
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Senator Wants IRS to Chase After Pimps
I don't have a problem with prosecuting and fining pimps, so I think Grassley is definitely on to something. I do have a problem with calling them employers and seeking tax money from them. That just sounds nasty (for lack of a better term). Just call them fines IMHO.
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Senator Wants IRS to Chase After Pimps
Sen. Charles Grassley wants the IRS to chase after pimps and sex traffickers
WASHINGTON, Jun. 28, 2006
By MARY DALRYMPLE AP Tax Writer
(AP) Pimps and sex traffickers could soon find themselves being chased by tax collectors, not just the vice squad.
Sen. Charles Grassley, chairman of the tax-writing Senate Finance Committee, wants the Internal Revenue Service to chase after pimps and sex traffickers with the same fervor it stalked gangster Al Capone for tax evasion.
Grassley, R-Iowa, would hit pimps with fines and lengthy prison sentences for failing to file employment forms and withhold taxes for the women and girls under their command.
The proposal would make certain tax crimes a felony when the money comes from a criminal activity. A one-year prison sentence and $25,000 fine would become a 10-year sentence and $50,000 fine for each employment form that a pimp or sex trafficker fails to file.
Grassley planned to propose the penalties when his panel meets Wednesday.
The thugs who run these trafficking rings are exploiting society's poorest girls and women for personal gain, Grassley said. The IRS goes after drug traffickers. It can go after sex traffickers.
Michael Horowitz, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, said the change has the potential to put pimps out of business without difficult trials that require women to testify to abuse and mistreatment.
We need to simply treat the pimps and massage parlor operators the way we would treat anybody who takes the proceeds of a customer transaction from somebody and then gives a fraction of it back, he said.
Under tax law, that relationship makes the pimp an employer, requiring the filing of a wage statement and the withholding of payroll taxes, including Social Security.
Grassley envisions creating an office inside the Internal Revenue Service to prosecute sex traffickers for violating tax laws. The office would get $2 million to get started, and it would be allowed to keep a portion of the taxes it collects.
The IRS work is intended to build on efforts under way to curb worldwide trafficking. The Justice Department, collaborating with U.S. attorneys offices nationwide, would identify pimps and sex traffickers and refer them to the IRS.
Grassley also wants to change the IRS whistleblower program to allow the girls and women to participate.
If the IRS goes after pimps and sex traffickers for tax offenses now, it conducts lengthy audits of their lifestyles in order to estimate their incomes from illegal activities and determine taxes due.
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Every senator on the floor during these votes....
has the identical experience Obama has. Does not make them foreign policy experts. How many times does someone have to say she was at the state level? She has as much foreign policy experience as Bill Clinton did when he was elected PRESIDENT. Geez. Your #1 guy has done...that is why he has Biden. He has never made an executive decision in his life, even in his campaign other than I am Barack Obama and approved this message.
John McCain is the only one of them, including Biden, with real and extended foreign policy experience. He has actually met with world leaders, not run the foreign relations committee. He is already known and respected worldwide. That is a no-brainer...and HE is the one running for the job.
Is someone in this thread related to Senator
 Is that his nick name for McCain supporters? Hey how about McCain sell a few of those houses and give it to the financial companies???? How about the rich do something for a change???? How about that????
This makes me sick, all of it! We need to be addressed by these candidates and not set aside until oil companies and rich folks figure out what happened!!!! We are looking at who is going to be our next President and all Bush cares about are his pockets being lined? Poor thing; did he invest in the wrong stock???
I must be really whacked, but I feel this candidacy is waaaaay more important than IGA, IGM, Wash Mut, Bank of America, Lehman, Looman, Dooman, or dooofus, whatever!!!!! These lenders loaned the money to people who they knew couldn't pay it back and now it has come back to bite them and now its the rest of us having to bail them out. No sympathy here! I stayed within my budget; so sorry others did not!!!!!!!! These candidates are going to run this country. I think Obama is right; let's get it on with the debates.... JMO...
Senator versus presidency
Sure, I can see where a lot of this would be overlooked while running for a senate position versus president of our country. The higher the position, the more you look into someone's history and that is what separates the boys from the men....
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