It's like John Q. Public. Another way of saying...
Posted By: sam on 2008-10-01
In Reply to: Can somebody please tell me what Joe six-pack - America means? nm
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John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly....
improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment." Interesting that 4 of the 5 were Democrats. Still..John McCain has publically said he was sorry for his part in it, that he was wrong in what he did and has apologized for it. Like I said before, I respect that. Everyone makes mistakes. No everyone is man enough to own up to them and not hide behind Nancy Pelosi and the DNC like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are doing. Now THERE is a pair to draw to.
Public or Private?
This is a direct quote from the TOS, accessed through the above link provided by Goldbird: *All posted articles and replies are PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE on the Web*
...yet in one of the MQ threads, Goldbird stated this board was PRIVATE and financial discussions, real or speculative, were not allowed.
So is MTStars a PUBLIC board or a PRIVATE board? Choose one -- Can't be both at the same time.
Public Library
I read his papers at the public library. They are 10 years old at least.
I had thought that such information was not available to the public.
This is a privacy issue, and therefore an ethical issue. If such personal information as ISP numbers are freely availale to other posters on this board I would no longer wish to post here. And if this is the case it needs to be posted.
Not according to what the public is saying out there...women are upset...sm
Palin is the complete opposite of Hillary being pro-Choice. Hillary voters are not voting for just any woman...go to other sites and read for yourself...
McCain's desperation is out in the open now and his judgement is in question.
Perhaps she would not have been forced into making it public...
had not the left gone to the blogs trying to claim that Trig was Bristol's and they were passing him off as her brother. To let that stand would do more damage to her daughter, don't you think?
OMG! (lol!) In the public school system,
Thanks for a good laugh!
This is a public board and any information that...sm
is posted here needs to be confirmed at nonpartisan sites. You need to be very savy on the internet, people can say they are Jesus and they are just the opposite. A 65 year old pedafile can pose as a 16 year old looking for a friend. You need to keep your wits about you and not believe everything that is posted on the internet.
Can you say violation of public trust?
Can you say hypocrite? Attack dog under fire. How sweet it is.
the informed voting public
http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
Give this a listen.
This public insurance is not free -
it will still have premiums attached to it - it will just be made available to more people.
This is all internet talk. On one has said this in public where...sm
he would need to address it. It is all just speculative talk by people trying to scare you into voting for McCain. None of it is true. Beware of the sources you get your information from. In other words, believe none of what you read and only half of what you see. When you are sure your sources are credible, then make your decision.
All public figures are scrutinized, especially
presidents because they supposedly represent we, the people. It's not just O that is being scrutinized. Past presidents were too, along with movie stars, sports figures, you name it. If you have a big name, are in the public eye, you will have your life spread all over the media.
I think you give the public too much credit!
They won't even know about it until someone shows up at the door to take their kids to the "campus." The American public is too apathetic to act in their own best interests AND too easily fooled by pretty words.
Document NOT to be released to the public?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-BvWg3e1I&eurl
I just read an independent study that says that only 20% of the public believe
or associate Democrats with christianity. It's actually down and has been consistently going down. Of course, I know a lot of Christian Democrats. None of them seem to post here, but I know many in my private life. They are far to the right, though, like Democrats use to be
I figure I have been on the Public Enemy List...
for years. I started becoming very involved during the Viet Nam War, the civil rights movement, the ERA, all those things of the 70s. I have been arrested 3 times (and proud of it) for unlawful assembly, marching without a parade permit (someone was really fine combing there), and sitting in at a government building. These were all en masse arrests but I am sure I have an FBI file. I also was active in AIM back in the day, American Indian Movement and now am involved with Free Leonard Peltier, so I know I am wired, tapped, followed, whatever it is they do to dissidents like me. I also was at a Friends Community House meeting here in Florida where protestors of the present debacle gather. One of these meetings was tapped; made national news. I will go to Harry's site and sign anything they ask me to. I sign petitions all the time from MoveOn, Not In Our Name, Women in Black, Amnesty International...so I really don't care about that part. I used to think I would just wait until it is finally over, the Bush administration that is, but now I am beginning to think this world may not make it until November 2008. A melt-down is coming, take your pick, global warming or nuclear warfare, I tend to think the nuclear will be first. If we nuke Iran, the rest of all hell will break loose and America wil be responsible for too numerous to count deaths worldwide. If anyone thinks that guy in Iran and his compatriots will take that sitting down, they are as dumb as dirt. We knew from the beginning that Iraq would turn out just exactly as it has, and Iran will do the same, only bigger and badder. The times, they are a-changin'.
If the American public votes that into office, then
Our public education system, somewhat off topic.
I have heard so much about our education system and I'm sure some of it is true. However, I would like to relay a recent experience I had......
Living in a small community that is loaded with history, I and a couple of other "older" ladies hosted the local 4th and 5th grades on a field trip regarding the history of a couple of landmarks.......anyone interested can visit my website http://www.ozarkmountainmemories.com and read about them.
I was to do the historical presentation on the Cane Hill College Building. My good friend was to do the presentation on the Old Mill. Before I knew that there were 212 students plus teachers and parents, I opened my big mouth and said I would make cookies and Kool-Aid for the kid's field trip. I ended up having a lot of help there!!!
Both my friend and I were very apprehensive about this field trip. Well, I want to tell you that those were the best behaved kids I have seen in a long time. This field trip was to prepare them to write an essay for the Arkansas Historical Society. They were attentive and, asked very pertinent and intelligent questions.
One of the teachers called me yesterday and said that she was going to bring me some of the essays the kids had written. She read one to me and it started out with "You may think the Cane Hill College is just a 2-story brick building...." and the student proceeded to write what I would consider a very excellent essay. I will post some of these on my website when I have them in hand.
I might also say that there were a good many parents present for the field trip. I came away from that field trip with a whole different perspective on the local school, which is reputed to be one of the worst school districts in the state with the highest teen pregnancy rate. I think if these 4th and 5th graders continue through high school with teachers such as I met and parents who are involved in their education, each and every one of them will be just A-okay.
maybe they knew and did not care that it was public information - nm
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If your in public office, you have no private life (mn)
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Yes, Obama prefers ignorance from the public.
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Public schools are NO place for pushing the
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Public opinion made him step down...(sm)
You do remember the circumstances? Gingrich was having an affair at the same time that he was on Clinton for his indiscretions? Yeah, keep on talking about morals Newt.....
Forced bible reading in public school
The Bible is without question the most recognizable and known literary works in the history of literature. It has been read time and time again by people of all races, nationalities and religions all over the world for hundreds and hundreds of years. It is the most prominent, dominating pieces of writing in cultures around the globe.
Yet apparently, it is exempt from that pesky little law of the separation of Church and State in the United States of America.
In Boca Raton, Florida, at West Boca Raton High School, the book of Genesis is on the required reading list for all incoming 11th graders to the school. It is not suggested or recommended, but is mandatory.
The school claims that no laws have been broken, as state law permits studies of the Bible as long as it is studied for its literature purposes, rather than as history. And this is the loophole which is allowing the school to force its students to read from the Bible, as it is seen as preparation for literary reading in the school year to come.
Wait a second … Students are being forced to read the Bible, because the school thinks it is pertinent to their reading in their particular grade level? And no one sees the problem with this?
Separation of Church and State was established to prevent religious beliefs and practices from interfering with activities within the government. And last time I checked, public schools fall under the category that is protected from religious teachings. While the Bible may have many great stories, and the style of writing and language may be absolutely fascination, why must students be required to read it? It is clearly the most blatant symbol and teaching tool for religion, despite its values as literary work.
Students should be recommended to read the Bible if the school feels so strongly in its “practical” use as literature teachings. Or have the teachers explain the important stories and style of writing, suggesting that the students follow along if they wish. But to down right require students to read it is a slap in the face to everyone who has valued the importance of keeping religion out of the government.
Would the school ever consider requiring the reading of the Koran? Or what about the book of Mormon? Of course these literary works would never be considered, mainly because of the overwhelming influence Christianity has on today’s society.
What could students possibly get from reading the book of Genesis that they couldn’t get from any other great work of literature? I managed to breeze through my 11th grade English class without ever having to pick up a bible, and I seem to be doing okay as far as literature knowledge goes right now.
Also, what will happen to the students who refuse to partake in the required reading? They school already stated that their will be quizzes and tests on the material (the book of Genesis), so does that mean if a student feels it is wrong to be forced to read the bible and doesn’t do it, he is out of luck come test time? If so, wouldn’t you think that those students wouldn’t care less of their grade by that point? If that was the case, then the school’s ploy to teach students the writing of the Bible would be a lost cause.
Requiring students to read books to better understand the English language and literature as a whole is a normal part of school. Teachers are supposed to assign work … that is their job. But to force religious teachings and preaching onto students isn’t the work of teachers or a school board … it is the work of pastors/ministers/priests.
And until West Boca Raton High School becomes a private school, requiring teachers to take the place of spiritual leaders is a crime.
We at the Noyse are furious and disappointed that this is taking place. While we value and respect the religious beliefs of everyone, we do not feel it appropriate to force religion or religious teachings upon anyone.
So we are taking action. We are doing this for all the unheard voices of the upcoming 11th grade class, who will read the book of Genesis because they have to and are unable to say no … or unable to be heard when they do say no. We are doing this for all the students who are bound to fail their tests because they refused to read the Bible as instructed. We are doing this for everyone who believes in the first amendment: The freedom of speech, the freedom of press and the freedom of religion. We are doing this for everyone who is frustrated with the State misinterpreting and reshaping the beliefs of the Separations of Church and State. And we are doing this for everyone who thinks this is down right wrong.
We are prepared to go to war over this issue. We are not afraid to make noyse, and are anticipating being heard only after we hear a lot in return. We are going to fight, and will not back down, slow down or shut up until this issue is brought into question by those with the authority to remedy the problem.
First off, we have started a petition, that we encourage everyone to sign if they wish to help us in this battle. You can view the petition here. Please, sign it and pass it along to everyone you know. The more voices who speak up, the louder we will be.
Also, we will be sending a letter to West Boca Raton High School, as well as the school district, stating our grievances, intentions and expectations. We will give them an opportunity to respond to our mission if they so choose to do so. We will inform them that while we may be a small army, we are not easy-influenced or easily intimidated, and will not go away quietly.
We will also be sending out press releases to all local media outlets (news stations, newspapers, etc.) in the Boca Raton area, exclaiming our business and informing them that a battle will be waged and to prepare for us to make some noyse. Also, everyone and anyone reading The Noyse who wishes to stand on the battle lines with us will be encouraged to contact their local media outlets as well and inform of them our mission.
Students heading into the 11th grade will be notified of our intentions and informed that they can either submit to the requirements, or stand up and make noyse along with us.
And finally, the government of Florida will be notified of the problem we see in this situation, and asked to reevaluate it as a whole. We will not beg, not plead, but insist that action be taken to prevent the students at West Boca Raton High School to be required to read the bible.
Jeb's son arrested for public intoxication, resisting arrest
Is the entire FAMILY a bunch of drunks and drug addicts? (Or, as neocons would say, Yea! Let's make him president!)
Jeb Bush's son arrested for public intoxication, resisting arrest
The Associated Press
September 16. 2005 5:32PM
John Ellis Bush, the youngest son of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, was arrested early Friday and charged with public intoxication and resisting arrest, law enforcement officials in Texas said.
The 21-year-old nephew of President Bush was arrested by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission at 2:30 a.m. Friday on a corner of Austin's Sixth Street bar district, said spokesman Roger Wade.
John Ellis Bush was released on $2,500 bond for resisting arrest, and on a personal recognizance bond for the public intoxication charge, officials said.
Alia Faraj, the spokeswoman for Jeb Bush said the incident is a personal family matter which the governor and his wife are dealing with privately.
It's not the first time Florida's first family has experienced legal problems with one of their children.
Noelle Bush, the governor's daughter, was arrested in January 2002 and was accused of trying to pass a fraudulent prescription at a Tallahassee pharmacy to obtain the anti-anxiety drug Xanax. She completed a drug rehabilitation program in August 2003 and a judge dismissed the drug charges against her.
Noelle Bush was sent to jail twice for violating rules during her rehab stint. She was jailed for three days in July 2002 after being caught with prescription pills and served 10 days a month later after being accused of having a small rock of crack cocaine in her shoe
It's not a crime to state your religious views in public.
We don't have to keep it in our homes or our churches. Freedom of religion covers that too!
I agree. No one should be pushing their ideals in public schools.SM
Just the regular math, science, drama, choir, social studies works for me.
Parents are responsible for educating on religion, sex (though a little sex ed is not a bad thing), politics, etc.
This is good news. It is a reflection of public opinion of the..sm
republican party and how they are running the country. Hope this tide keeps on rolling.
Calling someone a stalker on a public forum is ridiculous!
The term last-worditis describes your actions perfectly. Calling someone a stalker has absolutely no relevance on a public forum where everyone is anonymous. No one knows who you are, no one is calling your home, no one is sitting outside of your house watching every move you make, and no one is following you wherever you go. That is what a stalker does. People who are truly being stalked do everything possible not to draw attention to themselves. You do everything in your power to draw attention to yourself, as exhibited by the sheer number of the messages you post and even your ridiculous "sigh" posts we see all the time. If you are going to use a snappy come back for the last-worditis posts, at least find something that makes sense.
Obama has held public office since 1997. Why then
to his eligibility prior to August 2008? His eligiblity to run for public office has been certified in 1996, 1998, 2002 and 2004. So why did it take the republican party so long to bring up this issue?
good thing u dont have to work with the public
with that attitude. Emily meant why is the OP posting this? In reference to what? I am wondering the same thing.
Just read public comments on other websites...republicans are upset...sm
and either not voting or voting for Obama. McCain is looking like a true hypocrite with his VP pick. I couldn't stop laughing at all the comments. He made a HUGE mistake with Palin.
Obama stepped out in public view and "blatantly" dissed
by publically ignoring his last speech to the nation.
Don't you get it about his character yet?
Trailblazing refusal of public funds, record-breaking fundraising
That guy sure knows how to raise mountains of money. Small donors, big votes. Innovative and successful. Now that's what I'm talkin' about. T-minus 18 and counting.
She's going to talk to police and possibly make public statment tmrw
Will be interesting. I'm sure we'll know soon enough if this story is true.
Really..John Roberts?
Roberts Disparaged States' Sex-Bias Fight
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 27 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee John Roberts disparaged state efforts to combat discrimination against women in Reagan-era documents made public Thursday, and wondered whether "encouraging homemakers to become lawyers contributes to the common good."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050818/ap_on_go_su_co/roberts
John Kerry...sm
He was coined a flip flopper in the 04 election, but he has been saying the same thing ever since and it is making more and more sense every day.
John Edwards as VP?
thoughts?
not even john's first choice
ABC's Jan Crawford Greenburg reports: It wasn't until Sunday night that John McCain, after meeting with his four top advisers, finally decided he could not tap independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut to be his running mate. One adviser, tasked with taking the temperature of the conservative base, had strongly made the case to McCain that it would be a disaster for the party and that the base would revolt. McCain concluded he could not go that route.
So the man McSame thought would make the best vice president was vetoed by his fundie base. And he caved.
But he's very Mavericky!
I was always one that said if John McCain ran...sm
I could definitely vote for him. He has so disappointed me during this presidential election. He seemed to have abandoned all his maverickness and has been pandering to the right wing republicans when he is really a moderate. Today, for the first time in a long time, I see that he is being a maverick again and saying, wait, not so fast, it should not be so easy with no oversight, CEOs should not be making millions when their companies are going under. A very confusing time.
John McCain
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Go John McCain!!!!
I heard some other stuff that went down in that room, but since the source would be bashed on this board, I'm not saying until it shows up in the media somewhere else.
I doubt it will, though, as McCain and the republicans are too much the gentlmen, to say what actually went on, and what was said by whom at times.
John McCain
I could feel a little sorry for him if he were not so mean and willing to do anything to win. For pete sake, he is 72 years old. he has few years left. He has a lovely family and many great homes. Whey does he not enjoy his final years getting to know his children? He was in Washington and only went home on the weekends. Sometimes we just have to realize that we are not going to achieve a dream. I have accepted I will never be a naturally thin person. It took 30 years, but I know it now. He has been honored for his service and had many years in Washington. he is putting so much wear and tear on his aging body with the physical demands of campaigning. He is doing damage to his cardiovascular system with the seething anger and contempt. If my grandfather at age 72 decided to run for mayor, I would say come on grandpa, that is ridiculous..
John McCain
At 72 he still has quite a few years left, God willing. AND, he has more experience than Obama will ever have. He knows more about foreign policy, war, economy, everything than Obama will ever know. Obama with 143 days experience? He can't even talk without a teleprompter.
You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.
'From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.
After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be
Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World .... 143 days.
We all have to start somewhere. The Senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a start.
AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America?
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!
John McCain was a
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Way to go John - Good job!
Finally spoke up for the American people. Only time will tell if it was soon enough. I hope it was. You showed us all that you care about us. You showed us you don't believe in socialism (redistribution of wealth). You validated our beliefs that you will fight for what is right for all Americans. You pointed out Obama's unfortunate beliefs and the people he associates with, the health care system he plans to socialize, the increased taxes, the slick lawyer talk. You reminded us that Biden was wrong in a lot of his votes and that most of the time Obama didn't even vote (called present). You showed us that despite the many socialist liberals in the country Obama is not the right person for the job.
I don't care what you look like John. I don't care that you can't "slick talk" us all. I don't care that you don't have a full head of hair and that you can't lift your arms above your head. I don't care that you can't play basketball well and look impeccable in a suit. What I do care about are your policies and your beliefs and how that will affect my life. So you may not be the prettiest of the bunch, but I know that a lot of people who say they don't care that Obama is a black man and continue to point out that they are not racists, are the same bunch that will point out that your not nice looking like Obama is.
So knowing that you have the American people's best interest at heart, and you care more about the people than your campaign. You fight to the end (and so does your running mate) for us because you believe it is the right thing to do.
That is why I am voting for you.
Just a little about John McCain
*Voted to eliminate overtime pay for 8 million American workers
*Voted to allow companies to cut and eliminate pensions for their long-term employees.
*Voted to weaken OSHA and workplace regulations designed to prevent injuries on the job.
* Voted against the Employee Free Choice Act (H.R.800) 6/26/07.
*Voted for a National-Right-To-Work (for less) Act (S.1788) 7/10/96
*Voted to allow employers to hire permanent replacements during a strike (S.55) 7/13/94.
*Voted against granting collective bargaining rights for state and local police andfirefighters (H.R. 3061) 11/6/01.
*Voted against granting collective b argaining rights for TSA screeners (S.4) 3/7/07.
*Keating-5: Federal regulators wanted to seize control of the failed Lincoln Savings & Loan Association but McCain intervented to try to prevent that from happening.
*McCain claims he paid for the Keating for the flights to his private home in the Bahamas, but he conveniently could not produce the receipts. Keating donated $112,000 to McCain's campaigns for the House and then the Senate.
*His current campaign for president is essentially run by lobbyists with close ties to big oil companies, Fannie Mae, UBS and Blackwater. FedEx Corp, founder and CEO, Fred Smith is a close friend who Mccain views as a perfect candidate for U.S. Secretary of Defense.
*McCain voted to give tax breaks to companies that send American jobs overseas. He voted against overtime pay, against Davis-Bacon protections and against extending unemployment insurance.
* "I-the fact is that I'm different but the fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed," McCain said on Meet the Press onJune 15, 2005. "And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I've been totally in agreement nad support of President Bush."
*McCain mirrors Bush in another important way: his indifference to the plight of Americans who fall victim to disaster. He voted twice against creating a commission to investigate the botched response to Hurricane Katrina--and later he said he voted for every investigation into Katrina's aftermath.
*McCain is the staunchest advocate fo free trade in the U.S. Senate. He voted for every disastrous free-trade agreement since NAFTA. He strongly supports a trade deal with Colombia. He's a leader in the effort to open the border to dangerous trucks from Mexico.
Just a note about Palin's Wasilla Police Department. Their employees voted 29-9 to join the Teamsters Local 959 by a vote of 29-9. The election was recently certified.
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How any serious middle class American worker can vote for this man is beyond me.
To John McCain:
Hey Johnny, where was Joe today? Pretty funny thing when you're holding a rally and call your little campaign mascot up there with you, and he's not even there! Sucks to be stood up in front of all those people!! I guess his newfound fame is more important! LOL Now that's loyalty.
And you believe John McCain?
Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions but I would hope that we would all base our opinions on FACTS without preconceived prejudices.
John McCain
I am referring to the following "post."
McCain's body language just is not right.
McCain always comes across as poisonous, ready to explode. His eyes were almost popping out of his head.
His body language just is not right!
I guess your body language would not be right either if you had every bone broken in your body in a concentration camp as he has had every bone broken in his body. I guess if his facial features and eyes are not to your liking, maybe you should be shut in a chamber and tortured and have every bone in your body broken. Not only that, but pulled up on a rope and have your legs tied behind you and around your arms so that your ribs start cracking, and you are hung suspended like that. I guess maybe your obama boy, smooth talking, prancing candidate could come and save you.... Maybe he could have a rally for you so Bruce can be there screeching "born in the USA, but love communism. Yeh, maybe they could do that for you.
An American hero and you say things like that. How sad for you. How very sad.
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