the informed voting public
Posted By: dnh on 2008-10-28
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Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. sm
The 2 main choices are horrible. They only offer a continuation of the status quo. Nothing on bringing the troops home (now not 5 years from now), no sound monetary policy, reinstating our civil liberties, etc. Third party candidates have better platforms. People should be voting principles over party, or you deserve whatever you get.
Many repubs voting for Obama in my experience..OR NOT VOTING ..only
only a few stragglers left, like the 26 percent who don't hate Bush.
Most people voting for Obama are voting on emotion...sm
You may be the exception.
All that matters is hope and change. At what cost, my friend, at what cost, will your hope and change come at.
He will try to change the very foundation of this country, the constitution, and our very way of life.
If I wanted that, I'd move back to Russia where some of my ancestors came from.
I can recognize socialism and Marxism, even if half the country cannot.
They only care for hope. And change.
You are always so well-informed.
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I am sure you are more informed than
I am on this subject. But, if this was what they agreed to in 2005, why would Hamas begin bombing in 2008 because they disagreed with it?
PK is well informed, you seem to be programmed.nm
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Get Informed, I agree with you too,
and I enjoy the politics of it all, but I am truly very concerned what is going on. How in the world can a man who says he puts "Country First" in such peril? It might be funny if it wasn't so deadly serious. If McPain gets in the WH, will just have a ball with what money we have set aside, maybe go to Alaska and just hope a polar bear comes along and has one good last meal.....lol sort of. LOL.
Oh pulleease you are so mis-informed
Name one person who has been killed because of Beck. Just did a search, haven't found one. Sure he may be a bit "animated" - the gas can incident was a good example to show people what is happening. You just don't agree with what he says. But he is the only one out there who is telling us the truth and telling it like it is. I for one have been listening to him and he has a good show. If it wasn't for Beck I wouldn't have known about this administration cutting back the death benefits for the families of slain police officers in the line of duty, yet at the same time this administration is spending over $300K to research gay bars in Argentina to find out why gays get drunk and participate in that behavior. There is so much we don't know in this country but at least Beck is informing the people. If you don't like him don't listen. But please spare us with the lies of "people have died because of him".
Hannity - I actually can't stand the guy - Savage calls him a Leprechaun. HA HA. I don't like him but there is not one thing he's done to incite violence.
Rush Limbaugh - He may be in the republican party, but he was never the leader. That was made up by the liberal media. You know like "Al Gore invented the internet" which he never said to begin with. Both parties are making things up.
It's more like that the conservatives know history and are better informed.
I am amazed that you people are not challenged more. I don't care about the political aspect but this is just ridiculous. Capitalism is superior to socialism in every way. Socialist societies have never prospered. Never. Socialism remains a failed experiment. Capitalism was implemented in West Germany and West Berlin following World War II. West Germany and West Berlin prospered and living standards became much better. Socialism was implemented in East Germany and East Berlin following World War II. East Germany and East Berlin stagnated and living standards deteriorated. The split turned German into an experiment that could be observed, studied, and used to show the differences of how capitalism and socialism affect a country. This is a matter of fact. Anyone who opts for socialism is a fool.
I guess God himself has spoken to you and informed you
that the rapture will pass Lilly by.
Everyone tune in Divinity is speaking on the chat board tonight.
Joke!
Your characterization of Obama is ill informed.
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Rush rocks. He just informed us
that President Bush's applauses & Fred Thompson's speech were apparently edited out or ignored from MSLSD (NBC) and CBS. If that's the case, how responsible is that? That's as bad as MQ being the only MTSO out there, period.
Fred Thompson was incredible last PM. I suppose I'll have to dig that one out for those who think the news is on the drive-by channels like these.
That's certainly not to diminish Joe Lieberman's speech. Even when he was running for VP, the GOP wouldn't go "after him," only challenge the issues. He's a perfect example of a liberal who puts country before party. Frankly, it's impossible to dislike the man, regardless of what side he's on.
I guess one of the things she's not very informed
You are woefully ill informed on who democrats
You are also mistaken to think that after saturating the airways for the past 2 years with smear tactics that suddenly they are going to take a complete 180 and become effective...especially in light of the economic meltdown and your candidate's cowardly retreat from the issues at hand. Americans have a one-track mind right now. If he stays silent on the economy he will lose the election...no doubt about it.
Oh, I am informed. I don't listen to the smut
I've been following the candidates throughout this whole process. O is not going to cure our ills. He will just put us more into debt. I would have loved to hear the crap spewed by BOTH but let's face it. If the O wins and any of his dem affiliates and everything is democratic, there goes the checks and balances; i.e., they can put through any law with smooth sailing and nary a person can undermine it.
Do you understand and see what I'm saying???? Probably not. Let me put it in English....if the O wants to ban guns, it will be done. If the O wants to tax people that earn $1,000 a year (just a supposition), it will be done. If the O wants to tax us to death on health care, it will be done. If he wants us to rely on the government for our income, it will be done.
We need checks and balances so we don't become another Cuba or Russia. Don't you get that? If the dems control everything, there's no way this will be "for the people, of the people" demoncracy. It will be Venezula, Cuba, Russia, China, etc., so called republic and I'm not looking forward to it.
BTW, I split my vote so you can't call me a pub.
For one thing, that you're not informed
of the truth (which I posted below) and are spreading the "mandatory" myth, which inflames and upsets people.
Obama's programs are inclusive and designed for those who choose to participate for the good of the country, to bring us closer together. If you want no part of that, then, that's your choice, and though I personally think it's sad, it's probably for the best. Either way, it's your CHOICE and is NOT MANDATORY.
You are delusional AND ill-informed. What a pity.
By your logic, Palestinians are in charge (yeah, right). That's the only way they could possibly be occupiers. When was the last time they blockaded Israel's food, medicine, fuel and money? Point to the place on the map where they have "expanded" their settlements, especially in light of the fact that the majority of them live in refugee camps. Israelis have not right to return? Return from which diaspora? They are there, or not, by choice, not by force. There is a difference. Palestinians try to tear down the wall, not construct it.
Since when do they have the power to imposed ANYTHING on the Israelis, let alone a police state. This current so-called retaliation is in response to the expiration of a cease fire, not renewed by Hamas because Israel did not live up to its own bargain and refused to lift the blockade. Palestinians invaded what part of Israel? When? Remember, they are the ones living on the ever-shrinking, splintering geography. Israelis think nothing of plundering even the most basic of resources, and scarce at that....water. Just another routine starvation tactic as they swim in their pools. Again, consult the disproportionate fatality statistics on fatalities and injuries. No matter how hard you protest, you cannot turn your lies into truth.
More pregnant women should be informed of this.
When I had my son, we donated his cord blood and it was all done for free. When I had my daughter four years later (and at a different hospital), we were told that we could store the cord blood, but not donate, and of course, storing means paying (way too much), so we didn't do it then. I probably should have done more checking around to see where we could have donated.
That one, I'm all for - if they could use that to find a cure for or treat cancer, MD, or anything else, imagine how fabulous that would be!!!
no I'm not a lover but do like to stay informed.
I can only take about 5 minutes of bull*(#% a day though.
imposing to assume that I am not informed
because I disagree with you?
It's just that the other posters tonight were much more respectful and better informed.
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Original poster is well informed and did the research
This is total Hogwash!!!! Please provide a link that I can view the document showing he voted against giving medical care to babies who survive abortion. This is just rubbish being spewed by the (oh how I hate to say this word) right wing in favor of McCain. I won't believe it until I see the document with his signature against medical care.
Obama has devoted his entire life to helping people. This idea of how he is for abortions (torturing of innoicent babies) telling people they need to leave them sitting on a bare table to rot in the same room as some filthy toilet is pure GARBAGE!
Obama is for helping people in the community, the less fortunate, the needy, the hungry, the unemployed, the children, the education system, the elderly, etc, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. To spread this type of smear is about as low as the republicans can go.
So all I say is prove it. Provide a link showing Obama's signature.
I decide for this informed American voter....
and a man's affairs or not affairs is not the reason I will vote or not vote. I don't want a socialist America, so I would not vote for Barack Obama.
If she gave sensible or informed answers it was because they were prewritten.
NM
This has got to be the stupidst, ill-informed comment I have ever read on here!!
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Anyone interested in being well informed watches Fixed Noise
How else can one keep up with what the myopic right-wing is up to, especially nobody else in the mainstream media with any ethical integrity will carry the bulk of their stories?
Anyone interested in being well informed watches Fixed Noise
How else can one keep up with what the myopic right-wing is up to, especially since nobody else in the mainstream media with any ethical integrity will carry the bulk of their stories?
Voting present and not voting, who has
the highest record in DC of simply not voting - McCain. Yes, Obama is up there too but ole' McCain is #1 for no votes.
Public or Private?
This is a direct quote from the TOS, accessed through the above link provided by Goldbird: *All posted articles and replies are PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE on the Web*
...yet in one of the MQ threads, Goldbird stated this board was PRIVATE and financial discussions, real or speculative, were not allowed.
So is MTStars a PUBLIC board or a PRIVATE board? Choose one -- Can't be both at the same time.
It's like John Q. Public. Another way of saying...
average American.
Public Library
I read his papers at the public library. They are 10 years old at least.
I had thought that such information was not available to the public.
This is a privacy issue, and therefore an ethical issue. If such personal information as ISP numbers are freely availale to other posters on this board I would no longer wish to post here. And if this is the case it needs to be posted.
Not according to what the public is saying out there...women are upset...sm
Palin is the complete opposite of Hillary being pro-Choice. Hillary voters are not voting for just any woman...go to other sites and read for yourself...
McCain's desperation is out in the open now and his judgement is in question.
Perhaps she would not have been forced into making it public...
had not the left gone to the blogs trying to claim that Trig was Bristol's and they were passing him off as her brother. To let that stand would do more damage to her daughter, don't you think?
OMG! (lol!) In the public school system,
Thanks for a good laugh!
This is a public board and any information that...sm
is posted here needs to be confirmed at nonpartisan sites. You need to be very savy on the internet, people can say they are Jesus and they are just the opposite. A 65 year old pedafile can pose as a 16 year old looking for a friend. You need to keep your wits about you and not believe everything that is posted on the internet.
Can you say violation of public trust?
Can you say hypocrite? Attack dog under fire. How sweet it is.
This public insurance is not free -
it will still have premiums attached to it - it will just be made available to more people.
This is all internet talk. On one has said this in public where...sm
he would need to address it. It is all just speculative talk by people trying to scare you into voting for McCain. None of it is true. Beware of the sources you get your information from. In other words, believe none of what you read and only half of what you see. When you are sure your sources are credible, then make your decision.
All public figures are scrutinized, especially
presidents because they supposedly represent we, the people. It's not just O that is being scrutinized. Past presidents were too, along with movie stars, sports figures, you name it. If you have a big name, are in the public eye, you will have your life spread all over the media.
I think you give the public too much credit!
They won't even know about it until someone shows up at the door to take their kids to the "campus." The American public is too apathetic to act in their own best interests AND too easily fooled by pretty words.
Document NOT to be released to the public?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT-BvWg3e1I&eurl
I just read an independent study that says that only 20% of the public believe
or associate Democrats with christianity. It's actually down and has been consistently going down. Of course, I know a lot of Christian Democrats. None of them seem to post here, but I know many in my private life. They are far to the right, though, like Democrats use to be
I figure I have been on the Public Enemy List...
for years. I started becoming very involved during the Viet Nam War, the civil rights movement, the ERA, all those things of the 70s. I have been arrested 3 times (and proud of it) for unlawful assembly, marching without a parade permit (someone was really fine combing there), and sitting in at a government building. These were all en masse arrests but I am sure I have an FBI file. I also was active in AIM back in the day, American Indian Movement and now am involved with Free Leonard Peltier, so I know I am wired, tapped, followed, whatever it is they do to dissidents like me. I also was at a Friends Community House meeting here in Florida where protestors of the present debacle gather. One of these meetings was tapped; made national news. I will go to Harry's site and sign anything they ask me to. I sign petitions all the time from MoveOn, Not In Our Name, Women in Black, Amnesty International...so I really don't care about that part. I used to think I would just wait until it is finally over, the Bush administration that is, but now I am beginning to think this world may not make it until November 2008. A melt-down is coming, take your pick, global warming or nuclear warfare, I tend to think the nuclear will be first. If we nuke Iran, the rest of all hell will break loose and America wil be responsible for too numerous to count deaths worldwide. If anyone thinks that guy in Iran and his compatriots will take that sitting down, they are as dumb as dirt. We knew from the beginning that Iraq would turn out just exactly as it has, and Iran will do the same, only bigger and badder. The times, they are a-changin'.
If the American public votes that into office, then
Our public education system, somewhat off topic.
I have heard so much about our education system and I'm sure some of it is true. However, I would like to relay a recent experience I had......
Living in a small community that is loaded with history, I and a couple of other "older" ladies hosted the local 4th and 5th grades on a field trip regarding the history of a couple of landmarks.......anyone interested can visit my website http://www.ozarkmountainmemories.com and read about them.
I was to do the historical presentation on the Cane Hill College Building. My good friend was to do the presentation on the Old Mill. Before I knew that there were 212 students plus teachers and parents, I opened my big mouth and said I would make cookies and Kool-Aid for the kid's field trip. I ended up having a lot of help there!!!
Both my friend and I were very apprehensive about this field trip. Well, I want to tell you that those were the best behaved kids I have seen in a long time. This field trip was to prepare them to write an essay for the Arkansas Historical Society. They were attentive and, asked very pertinent and intelligent questions.
One of the teachers called me yesterday and said that she was going to bring me some of the essays the kids had written. She read one to me and it started out with "You may think the Cane Hill College is just a 2-story brick building...." and the student proceeded to write what I would consider a very excellent essay. I will post some of these on my website when I have them in hand.
I might also say that there were a good many parents present for the field trip. I came away from that field trip with a whole different perspective on the local school, which is reputed to be one of the worst school districts in the state with the highest teen pregnancy rate. I think if these 4th and 5th graders continue through high school with teachers such as I met and parents who are involved in their education, each and every one of them will be just A-okay.
maybe they knew and did not care that it was public information - nm
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If your in public office, you have no private life (mn)
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Yes, Obama prefers ignorance from the public.
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Public schools are NO place for pushing the
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Public opinion made him step down...(sm)
You do remember the circumstances? Gingrich was having an affair at the same time that he was on Clinton for his indiscretions? Yeah, keep on talking about morals Newt.....
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