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Which is good, considering how Americans treated Vietnam vetes, which I think was deplorable.

These poor guys are fighting Bush's personal war, and they're doing the very best they can, given the fact they were sent in there so ill equipped by the government they serve. 

I'm so sad today about the news that two soldiers may have been kidnapped by al Qaeda.  If that's true, I think about Nick Berg, and I shudder to wonder what the fate of these young men will be.  I'm praying that they be found, safe and alive.  They are so young.  This is so, so sad.

At the same time, I'm also angered at the fact they were placed in that position in the first place, based on nothing more than George Bush's war of lies and deceit. 

Why won't anyone listen to John Murtha?  In his very first statement, he said our troops should be redeployed to the periphery.  The right wing misrepresented what he said, as usual, and called it *cutting and running,* when what he said was REDEPLOY TO THE PERIPHERY.  That's what every mother does when removing the training wheels from her child's first bicycle.  She cuts him/her loose but is still there in the background to save him/her if there's trouble.  That's what Murtha proposed.  But the neocons would rather our troops be killed or tortured.  I even read a post somewhere, along the lines of Tony Snow's *2,500 is just  number* when referring to American deaths in Iraq, citing something stupid Rush Limbaugh said regarding how many murders take place in the United States and, of course, how many abortions take place, inferring, as well, that 2,500 really isn't that high a number when you compare to murders and abortions.  I guess it's their new spin as soldiers' deaths increase, which is deplorable.

The Iraqis need to learn to defend themselves.  They can't do that if we're in their way all the time.

And don't forget:  We're fighting TWO wars at once, Iraq and Afghanistan.  Funny how we don't hear much about bin Laden these days, even though the war is still going on.  How much thinner can we spread our military?  And could we have gotten bin Laden if we had kept our focus on the people who actually attacked us?

This is just getting worse and worse and worse.  I hope our country can survive through 2008 without Bush doing much more damage to it.  I will be so relieved when he is out of office and I can finally (hopefully) feel a sense of hope for America.  

updated 1 hour, 34 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran - The lawyer for an Iranian-American student detained in Tehran said his client has been released on bail.

Mohammad Ali Dadkhah said Tuesday that Esha Momeni was released Monday evening on $200,000 bail.

The lawyer said the 28-year-old student at California State University planned to leave for the U.S. as soon as possible.

He said authorities had not imposed a travel ban on Momeni. But, he said, she could still go to trial on unspecified "security charges."

Momeni's father said he put up the deed to the family's Tehran apartment to cover the bail.

Momeni was detained on Oct. 15. Activists believe she was arrested for her involvement in a women's rights campaign.

I'd like opinions of where you get your news, what stations do you find give an equal balance.  Please don't bash other stations because as for as many acronyms as I have heard about one news station, I've heard equal many about the others. 

I don't watch Fox or MSNBC - those two are so blatanly biased.  I used to watch CNN until the Clinton's got in, then they became the Clinton News Network, never reporting the truth about the goings on of that administration.  Today I thought I'd go back to them to see if they calmed it down a bit with the love affair with the Clinton, but sure enough today I heard Wolf Blitzer say "Is the decade of Clinton bashing over".  I'm just flabbergasted and astounded at the complete ignorance of that station.  Ever since the Clinton's came into action the media has fallen over backwards with their love affair for them.  So, this morning I realized that all three stations, Fox, MSNBC, and CNN won't do it for me.

Where do you all get your news and why do you like it.

put together by a private citizen (not the McCain campaign), the same guy who was behind the swift boat ads against Kerry.  They could have run it and they chose not to.  Good for them!  I admit, there is cause for concern about Obama's connection to Ayers, but that kind of ad where it is mean accusation and innuendo with no real proof shouldn't be run, in my opinion.  Good for them for stepping up.   

I was surfing a bit this morning and found this news article from N. Korea. I doubt things will cool off for a long time, if ever. The article headlines state: "Lee Myung-Bak's Group Military Provocations Blasted. From there, it calls him a puppet war monger and states how Myung-Bak outbursts "over the non-existant provocation (my emphasis) by the North."

http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/july-dec05/bop_9-2.html

Very good discussion of the political ramifications of the current governmental failure in this emergency - includes New York Times columnist David Brooks, a Republican with some rather surprisingly accurate statements.

Part of an interesting article on housing market upswing - inflation slowing down. Good news if it stays the course!

www.truthout.org/031709C

Tuesday 17 March 2009

by: Lucia Mutikani  |  Visit article original @ Reuters

US housing starts rose sharply in February, providing some good news for the struggling housing industry. (Photo: AP)

presidents because they supposedly represent we, the people. It's not just O that is being scrutinized. Past presidents were too, along with movie stars, sports figures, you name it. If you have a big name, are in the public eye, you will have your life spread all over the media.

or associate Democrats with christianity.  It's actually down and has been consistently going down.  Of course, I know a lot of Christian Democrats.  None of them seem to post here, but I know many in my private life. They are far to the right, though, like Democrats use to be

I  have heard so much about our education system and I'm sure some of it is true.  However, I would like to relay a recent experience I had......

Living in a small community that is loaded with history, I and a couple of other "older" ladies hosted the local 4th and 5th grades on a field trip regarding the history of a couple of landmarks.......anyone interested can visit my website http://www.ozarkmountainmemories.com and read about them. 

I was to do the historical presentation on the Cane Hill College Building.  My good friend was to do the presentation on the Old Mill.  Before I knew that there were 212 students plus teachers and parents, I opened my big mouth and said I would make cookies and Kool-Aid for the kid's field trip.  I ended up having a lot of help there!!!

Both my friend and I were very apprehensive about this field trip.  Well, I want to tell you that those were the best behaved kids I have seen in a long time.  This field trip was to prepare them to write an essay for the Arkansas Historical Society.  They were attentive and, asked very pertinent and intelligent questions.

One of the teachers called me yesterday and said that she was going to bring me some of the essays the kids had written.  She read one to me and it started out with "You may think the Cane Hill College is just a 2-story brick building...." and the student proceeded to write what  I would consider a very excellent essay.  I will post some of these on my website when I have them in hand.

I might also say that there were a good many parents present for the field trip.  I came away from that field trip with a whole different perspective on the local school, which is reputed to be one of the worst school districts in the state with the highest teen pregnancy rate.  I think if these 4th and 5th graders continue through high school with teachers such as I met and parents who are involved in their education, each and every one of them will be just A-okay.

The Bible is without question the most recognizable and known literary works in the history of literature. It has been read time and time again by people of all races, nationalities and religions all over the world for hundreds and hundreds of years. It is the most prominent, dominating pieces of writing in cultures around the globe.

Yet apparently, it is exempt from that pesky little law of the separation of Church and State in the United States of America.

In Boca Raton, Florida, at West Boca Raton High School, the book of Genesis is on the required reading list for all incoming 11th graders to the school. It is not suggested or recommended, but is mandatory.

The school claims that no laws have been broken, as state law permits studies of the Bible as long as it is studied for its literature purposes, rather than as history. And this is the loophole which is allowing the school to force its students to read from the Bible, as it is seen as preparation for literary reading in the school year to come.

Wait a second … Students are being forced to read the Bible, because the school thinks it is pertinent to their reading in their particular grade level? And no one sees the problem with this?

Separation of Church and State was established to prevent religious beliefs and practices from interfering with activities within the government. And last time I checked, public schools fall under the category that is protected from religious teachings. While the Bible may have many great stories, and the style of writing and language may be absolutely fascination, why must students be required to read it? It is clearly the most blatant symbol and teaching tool for religion, despite its values as literary work.

Students should be recommended to read the Bible if the school feels so strongly in its “practical” use as literature teachings. Or have the teachers explain the important stories and style of writing, suggesting that the students follow along if they wish. But to down right require students to read it is a slap in the face to everyone who has valued the importance of keeping religion out of the government.

Would the school ever consider requiring the reading of the Koran? Or what about the book of Mormon? Of course these literary works would never be considered, mainly because of the overwhelming influence Christianity has on today’s society.

What could students possibly get from reading the book of Genesis that they couldn’t get from any other great work of literature? I managed to breeze through my 11th grade English class without ever having to pick up a bible, and I seem to be doing okay as far as literature knowledge goes right now.

Also, what will happen to the students who refuse to partake in the required reading? They school already stated that their will be quizzes and tests on the material (the book of Genesis), so does that mean if a student feels it is wrong to be forced to read the bible and doesn’t do it, he is out of luck come test time? If so, wouldn’t you think that those students wouldn’t care less of their grade by that point? If that was the case, then the school’s ploy to teach students the writing of the Bible would be a lost cause.

Requiring students to read books to better understand the English language and literature as a whole is a normal part of school. Teachers are supposed to assign work … that is their job. But to force religious teachings and preaching onto students isn’t the work of teachers or a school board … it is the work of pastors/ministers/priests.

And until West Boca Raton High School becomes a private school, requiring teachers to take the place of spiritual leaders is a crime.

We at the Noyse are furious and disappointed that this is taking place. While we value and respect the religious beliefs of everyone, we do not feel it appropriate to force religion or religious teachings upon anyone.

So we are taking action. We are doing this for all the unheard voices of the upcoming 11th grade class, who will read the book of Genesis because they have to and are unable to say no … or unable to be heard when they do say no. We are doing this for all the students who are bound to fail their tests because they refused to read the Bible as instructed. We are doing this for everyone who believes in the first amendment: The freedom of speech, the freedom of press and the freedom of religion. We are doing this for everyone who is frustrated with the State misinterpreting and reshaping the beliefs of the Separations of Church and State. And we are doing this for everyone who thinks this is down right wrong.

We are prepared to go to war over this issue. We are not afraid to make noyse, and are anticipating being heard only after we hear a lot in return. We are going to fight, and will not back down, slow down or shut up until this issue is brought into question by those with the authority to remedy the problem.

First off, we have started a petition, that we encourage everyone to sign if they wish to help us in this battle. You can view the petition here. Please, sign it and pass it along to everyone you know. The more voices who speak up, the louder we will be.

Also, we will be sending a letter to West Boca Raton High School, as well as the school district, stating our grievances, intentions and expectations. We will give them an opportunity to respond to our mission if they so choose to do so. We will inform them that while we may be a small army, we are not easy-influenced or easily intimidated, and will not go away quietly.

We will also be sending out press releases to all local media outlets (news stations, newspapers, etc.) in the Boca Raton area, exclaiming our business and informing them that a battle will be waged and to prepare for us to make some noyse. Also, everyone and anyone reading The Noyse who wishes to stand on the battle lines with us will be encouraged to contact their local media outlets as well and inform of them our mission.

Students heading into the 11th grade will be notified of our intentions and informed that they can either submit to the requirements, or stand up and make noyse along with us.

And finally, the government of Florida will be notified of the problem we see in this situation, and asked to reevaluate it as a whole. We will not beg, not plead, but insist that action be taken to prevent the students at West Boca Raton High School to be required to read the bible.

We don't have to keep it in our homes or our churches.  Freedom of religion covers that too!